Re:Urgent

2010-06-20 Thread prakhar gaur


Dear Jai,

Instead  of buying books and all.
Just start working with LFS.  If you got the mail-list id, then I am sure that 
you know the place to download the book(LFS-6.6)
But be sure to go through the pre-requisite reading list though. 

Thanking you,
Prakhar Gaur
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Re: Problem installing the nouveau driver

2010-06-20 Thread Andrew Benton
On 20/06/10 00:27, al...@verizon.net wrote:
 hi Neil, Andy, Simon
 and other (B)LFS would-be participants:

 This is probably my last installment on this
 nouveau driver problem thread.

Why? Are you giving up?

 2. I'm willing to work with a nouveau specialist to
 help them solve this problem if anybody is interested.


Can we see your kernel config? Could you put it up somewhere like 
pastebin and post a link so we can see please?

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Re: Problem installing the nouveau driver

2010-06-20 Thread Aleksandar Kuktin
On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 11:21:38 +0100
Andrew Benton b3n...@gmail.com wrote:
  2. I'm willing to work with a nouveau specialist to
  help them solve this problem if anybody is interested.
 
 
 Can we see your kernel config? Could you put it up somewhere like 
 pastebin and post a link so we can see please?
 
 Andy

Yes, please?

I've been using nouveau for months now (even before it got into
staging) and had reasonably little problems with it (apart from
Gallium 3D stuff). I'd really like to see the config, if you can
upload it.

-AKuktin
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A Kernel patch overview?

2010-06-20 Thread Paul Rogers
Having just installed LFS-6.6 with kernel-2.6.32.7, I thought I'd
look into patching it to the current patch level.  OTOH, I'm on a
40Kbps dialup line and a 10MB patch-2.6.33 is big enough to: a) 
give me pause before attempting a few hours of downloading, b) 
suggest that there's some significant new features.  Patch...34
is about the same size.  IIRC the Changelog-2.6.33 is nearly that
big, making it perhaps most of the patch file, but it's full of
sign-offs and not a particular good place to find out what's new.

Is there someplace where someone writes about what's new in
kernel patches?  New and removed features, considerations about
implementation, etc.?  Someplace where we can see what's in it,
whether it has anything for us or not?
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Re: A Kernel patch overview?

2010-06-20 Thread linux fan
On 6/20/10, Paul Rogers paulgrog...@fastmail.fm wrote:

 Is there someplace where someone writes about what's new in
 kernel patches?  New and removed features, considerations about
 implementation, etc.?  Someplace where we can see what's in it,
 whether it has anything for us or not?

Kernel newbies is usually found in google search such as kernel 2.6.33
and writes about that http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_2_6_33
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Re: Kernel patches overview

2010-06-20 Thread Paul Rogers
 Kernel newbies is usually found in google search such as kernel 2.6.33
 and writes about that http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_2_6_33

Thanks, linuxfan, exactly the sort of thing I was looking for and
hadn't found yet.  Doesn't look like my old desktops have any 
burning need for the patches.  I'll go on with the BLFS book.
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Re: A Kernel patch overview?

2010-06-20 Thread Neal Murphy
On Sunday 20 June 2010 11:11:01 Paul Rogers wrote:
 Having just installed LFS-6.6 with kernel-2.6.32.7, I thought I'd
 look into patching it to the current patch level.  OTOH, I'm on a
 40Kbps dialup line and a 10MB patch-2.6.33 is big enough to: a)
 give me pause before attempting a few hours of downloading, b)
 suggest that there's some significant new features.  Patch...34
 is about the same size.  IIRC the Changelog-2.6.33 is nearly that
 big, making it perhaps most of the patch file, but it's full of
 sign-offs and not a particular good place to find out what's new.

 Is there someplace where someone writes about what's new in
 kernel patches?  New and removed features, considerations about
 implementation, etc.?  Someplace where we can see what's in it,
 whether it has anything for us or not?

http://www.kernel.org/ (look at the changelogs)

For more civilized notes, try LWN.net. http://lwn.net/Kernel/

If you subscribe to http://lwn.net/headlines/rss, you'll receive cogent 
notices of all kernel updates, as well as many other things Linux; I think 
this feed averages 6-8 notices per day.

To go back in time, you can go to http://lwn.net/Archives/ and go back two or 
three weeks (the most recent week or two being reserved for subscribers), 
click 'Kernel' for the week, scroll near the bottom to 'kernel tree' and 
you'll find the cogent summaries. Getting the daily RSS feeds lets you avoid 
this rigamarole going forward.

Not necessarily for the faint of heart, but these notes *will* keep you 
informed.

FWIW, KDE's Akregator works very nicely with LWN's feed and keeps all previous 
notes until I delete them.
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RE: urgent

2010-06-20 Thread Yasin Yenidünya
Hi, i think no one will help you here. But i understand the issue that you
are facing. Many keko users will told you here is not the place that you
make your homework or some thing like that.

 

So can use 2 tutorial to understand operating system idea

 

http://en.skelix.org

http://viralpatel.net/taj/tutorial/hello_world_bootloader.php

 

 

any further question you can pm me please

 

 

 

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[mailto:lfs-support-boun...@linuxfromscratch.org] On Behalf Of JAY PRAKASH
SINGH
Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 8:03 AM
To: lfs-support@linuxfromscratch.org
Subject: urgent

 

Hello , sir I am student pursuing B.tech 5th sem , I want to design design
and and implement my own operating system plz tell me how and where I should
start.

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Re: urgent

2010-06-20 Thread Andrew Benton
On 20/06/10 21:07, Yasin Yenidünya wrote:
 Hi, i think no one will help you here. But i understand the issue that
 you are facing. Many keko users will told you “here is not the place
 that you make your homework” or some thing like that.


Err, I think you'll find that learning how to design and implement my 
own operating system is more than a bit of homework. It would take 
hundreds of gifted people more than a decade to achieve such a thing. He 
may ask for the moon but the volunteers on this list probably won't get 
it for him.

Andy
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Re: urgent

2010-06-20 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Andrew Benton wrote:

 It would take hundreds of gifted people more than a decade to achieve
 such a thing.

Or Linus about a year.

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Re: Problem installing the nouveau driver

2010-06-20 Thread alupu
Jun 20, 2010 06:21:59 AM, Andrew Benton wrote
Jun 20, 2010 08:51:09 AM, Aleksandar Kuktin wrote
 Can we see your 'config' file?

Sure.  I'll try to attach it.  If you do not get it
point me to some other way to pass it along.
...
Unfortunately (could my nouveau driver be jinxed? :):

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Re: Problem installing the nouveau driver

2010-06-20 Thread alupu

Jun 20, 2010 06:21:59 AM, Andrew Benton wrote
Jun 20, 2010 08:51:09 AM, Aleksandar Kuktin wrote
 Can we see your 'config' file?

Sure. I'll try to attach it. If you do not get it
point me to some other way to pass it along.

Back at the ranch ...
Jun 20, 2010 05:36:11 PM, lfs-support-boun...@linuxfromscratch.org wrote:
 Message body is too big: 54361 bytes with a limit of 50 KB

I bzip2'ed the file, so let's see if 11702 bytes can now
sneak below the 50 KB limit :).

BTW, 'config' is for a system of this nature:

ASUS P5E-VM HDMI, intel Core2Duo E8400 @ 3.00GHz.
G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR2 1000 (PC2 8000).
NVIDIA GeForce 8300GS 512MB 256-bit GDDR2
PCIe-2.0x16 BIOS 60.86.45.00.26,
Samsung SyncMaster 2494 60Hz, DVI connection.

Note:  the RivaTuner program shows the card with only
  128MB DDR2 and 64-bit G86.

Thank you for your interest,
-- Alex

config.bz2
Description: Binary data
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Re: urgent

2010-06-20 Thread Neal Murphy
On Sunday 20 June 2010 17:42:52 Bruce Dubbs wrote:
 Andrew Benton wrote:
  It would take hundreds of gifted people more than a decade to achieve
  such a thing.

 Or Linus about a year.

I'm not sure the OP could absorb that much info that quickly.

The OP needs to select his hardware, learn the peripheral interfaces, design a 
consistent hardware control interface, then design a consistent user-space 
interface that presents the necessary APIs to control user access to 
hardware.

Beyond that, the OP needs to select a language and learn to write in that 
language lucidly and clrealy so that he can return to old work weeks, months 
and even years later and figure out what he was thinking and doing in the 
past.

Then he needs to select a programming language and learn it inside, outside, 
upside and downside.

Next he needs to choose his 'best' methods, practices and procedures and learn 
them from every which way.

Thus armed, he can design and implement any sort of operating system he 
chooses, because the way will be fairly clear.
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