Re: udevsend and hotplug

2005-07-11 Thread steve crosby
On 7/12/05, kareemy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 7/11/05, Dan McGhee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > kareemy wrote:
> >



> 
> Thank you. I have read that. It provided some insight as to how
> udev+hotplug are supposed to work but didn't quite solve my issue. In
> the meantime I found two possible solutions that have worked for me.
> 
> 1) Keep /sbin/udevsend as the hotplug handler. Compile the
> run_directory extras in the udev source code by issuing the command
> "make EXTRAS=extras/run_directory". This will generate a
> udev_run_hotplugd binary. Copy that binary to /sbin and add the
> following rule to 50-udev.rules:
> 
> ENV{UDEVD_EVENT}=="1", RUN+="/sbin/udev_run_hotplugd"
> 

This is the correct option - from udev-059 onwards, the hotplug
handling is being done differently, with the udev rules being expanded
to allow calling of hotplug scripts from the udev rules file. It will
take a while to get a properly grip on the new functionality.

Ideally, the hotplug scripts will go away entirely, and be replaced by
udev rules that can call modprobe directly, etc. - that will take some
time however.

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Re: udevsend and hotplug

2005-07-11 Thread kareemy
On 7/11/05, Dan McGhee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> kareemy wrote:
> 
> >Hello,
> >
> >I noticed that the lfs bootscripts changed to echo /sbin/udevsend into
> >/proc/sys/kernel/hotplug instead of /sbin/hotplug.
> >
> >Does hotplug ever get called anymore in this case?
> >
> >My problem is with my digital camera. It does not have a /dev entry.
> >When I plug it in, a new entry is created in /proc/bus/usb along with
> >some very hidden usb entry in the /sys filesystem usually
> >/sys/class/usb_host/usb2/device/usb2/2-1 or something to that effect.
> >That is all that happens when the camera is plugged in. On my old
> >system when /sbin/hotplug was used, the usb scripts properly found the
> >/proc/bus/usb entry and my usbcam script properly set the permissions
> >so I could use the camera as my normal user. I have always used gphoto
> >and it seems to communicate to the camera through this /proc entry.
> >Now that /sbin/udevsend is used, nothing is happening. My usb hotplug
> >scripts are never called and udevinfo prints nothing about a camera
> >device. So I have a few questions about how to best  solve this.
> >
> >Why was the switch made to use /sbin/udevsend? On my old system using
> >/sbin/hotplug, buth udev and hotplug worked great. Now hotplug does
> >not seem to work.
> >
> >Can I switch back to /sbin/hotplug? Will there be any adverse effects?
> >
> >Is there a better way to get my digital camera to work than using
> >hotplug with a usbcam script? Perhaps a udev rule (The camera never
> >used a /dev entry in the past at all, so I don't know if this is
> >possible) ?
> >
> >I read the udevsend manpage and it seems that udevsend is supposed to
> >be called by hotplug, but that doesn't seem to be happening. Is there
> >a way to get use /sbin/hotplug and have it call udevsend or even have
> >/sbin/udevsend call /sbin/hotplug so both tools can work?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Kareem
> >
> >
> Kareem,
> 
> Let me point you to this series of messages in the archives:
> 
> http://archives.linuxfromscratch.org/mail-archives/lfs-support/2005-July/027542.html
> 
> This message and the next three or four replies to it may answer your
> questions.
> 
> Dan
> 


Thank you. I have read that. It provided some insight as to how
udev+hotplug are supposed to work but didn't quite solve my issue. In
the meantime I found two possible solutions that have worked for me.

1) Keep /sbin/udevsend as the hotplug handler. Compile the
run_directory extras in the udev source code by issuing the command
"make EXTRAS=extras/run_directory". This will generate a
udev_run_hotplugd binary. Copy that binary to /sbin and add the
following rule to 50-udev.rules:

ENV{UDEVD_EVENT}=="1", RUN+="/sbin/udev_run_hotplugd"

I added that at the end of the file. I copied it from the gentoo
udev.rules file that was included in the udev source code.

My understanding of this method is that udev will handle all hotplug
events, however, if it is given an event that does not match any of
its rules then it will run udev_run_hotplugd which is a simple binary
that traverses the /etc/hotplug.d directory running any scripts in
there. So now when I plug my digital camera in, udev matches this
final rule I created and activates hotplug which sets the permissions
correctly for me.

2) Use /sbin/hotplug as the hotplug event handler and in
/etc/hotplug.d/default/ simply add a symlink to /sbin/udevsend. So
when an event occurs, hotplug handles it but will call udevsend first
and then continue with the hotplug scripts.

I'd like some feedback about these method. Will there be any adverse
side effects or issues ...? I simply don't see a way udev can handle
setting up my digital camera with the correct permissions without the
help of a hotplug script. In addition i have a usbcam.usermap file
that hotplug uses which identifies hundreds of digital cameras it will
handle without issue.

Also, I used the LFS development version from July 9 when I compiled
my system and with the default setup I don't believe the hotplug
scripts were called at all during an hotplug event until I added that
udev rule above. I know they are still used for coldplugging at boot.
I am wondering if that is intentional or an oversight.

Thanks,
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Re: glibc "make check" error

2005-07-11 Thread David Rosal

Hi.

I've tried "make check" again and the problem was fixed automagically.
There was a spiritual problem that affected the connections between the 
electronic devices of my computer. But finally harmony was 
re-established between the transistors, and the buses were unblocked 
permitting the pure bit energy flow free in the motherboard. At the same 
time my mind was clarified by the pure light of the GNUniverse, and I 
reached a state of absolute unity with my computer.


Things like this make me love my job.


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Re: udevsend and hotplug

2005-07-11 Thread Dan McGhee

kareemy wrote:


Hello,

I noticed that the lfs bootscripts changed to echo /sbin/udevsend into
/proc/sys/kernel/hotplug instead of /sbin/hotplug.

Does hotplug ever get called anymore in this case?

My problem is with my digital camera. It does not have a /dev entry.
When I plug it in, a new entry is created in /proc/bus/usb along with
some very hidden usb entry in the /sys filesystem usually
/sys/class/usb_host/usb2/device/usb2/2-1 or something to that effect.
That is all that happens when the camera is plugged in. On my old
system when /sbin/hotplug was used, the usb scripts properly found the
/proc/bus/usb entry and my usbcam script properly set the permissions
so I could use the camera as my normal user. I have always used gphoto
and it seems to communicate to the camera through this /proc entry.
Now that /sbin/udevsend is used, nothing is happening. My usb hotplug
scripts are never called and udevinfo prints nothing about a camera
device. So I have a few questions about how to best  solve this.

Why was the switch made to use /sbin/udevsend? On my old system using
/sbin/hotplug, buth udev and hotplug worked great. Now hotplug does
not seem to work.

Can I switch back to /sbin/hotplug? Will there be any adverse effects? 


Is there a better way to get my digital camera to work than using
hotplug with a usbcam script? Perhaps a udev rule (The camera never
used a /dev entry in the past at all, so I don't know if this is
possible) ?

I read the udevsend manpage and it seems that udevsend is supposed to
be called by hotplug, but that doesn't seem to be happening. Is there
a way to get use /sbin/hotplug and have it call udevsend or even have
/sbin/udevsend call /sbin/hotplug so both tools can work?

Thanks,
Kareem
 


Kareem,

Let me point you to this series of messages in the archives:

http://archives.linuxfromscratch.org/mail-archives/lfs-support/2005-July/027542.html

This message and the next three or four replies to it may answer your 
questions.


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glibc "make check" error

2005-07-11 Thread David Rosal

Hi.

Trying to build LFS-6.1: Chapter VI, glibc-2.3.4:

"make" went fine, but "make check" fails:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]: make check
(...)
GCONV_PATH=/sources/glibc-build/iconvdata LC_ALL=C 
LOCPATH=/sources/glibc-build/localedata 
/sources/glibc-build/elf/ld-linux.so.2 --library-path 
/sources/glibc-build:/sources/glibc-build/math:/sources/glibc-build/elf:/sources/glibc-build/dlfcn:/sources/glibc-build/nss:/sources/glibc-build/nis:/sources/glibc-build/rt:/sources/glibc-build/resolv:/sources/glibc-build/crypt:/sources/glibc-build/nptl 
/sources/glibc-build/posix/tst-regex2  > 
/sources/glibc-build/posix/tst-regex2.out

make[2]: *** [/sources/glibc-build/posix/tst-regex2.out] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/sources/glibc-2.3.4/posix'
make[1]: *** [posix/tests] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/sources/glibc-2.3.4'
make: *** [check] Error 2
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

The host system is LFS-6.0.
I'd appreciate any help.
Thanks.

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udevsend and hotplug

2005-07-11 Thread kareemy
Hello,

I noticed that the lfs bootscripts changed to echo /sbin/udevsend into
/proc/sys/kernel/hotplug instead of /sbin/hotplug.

Does hotplug ever get called anymore in this case?

My problem is with my digital camera. It does not have a /dev entry.
When I plug it in, a new entry is created in /proc/bus/usb along with
some very hidden usb entry in the /sys filesystem usually
/sys/class/usb_host/usb2/device/usb2/2-1 or something to that effect.
That is all that happens when the camera is plugged in. On my old
system when /sbin/hotplug was used, the usb scripts properly found the
/proc/bus/usb entry and my usbcam script properly set the permissions
so I could use the camera as my normal user. I have always used gphoto
and it seems to communicate to the camera through this /proc entry.
Now that /sbin/udevsend is used, nothing is happening. My usb hotplug
scripts are never called and udevinfo prints nothing about a camera
device. So I have a few questions about how to best  solve this.

Why was the switch made to use /sbin/udevsend? On my old system using
/sbin/hotplug, buth udev and hotplug worked great. Now hotplug does
not seem to work.

Can I switch back to /sbin/hotplug? Will there be any adverse effects? 

Is there a better way to get my digital camera to work than using
hotplug with a usbcam script? Perhaps a udev rule (The camera never
used a /dev entry in the past at all, so I don't know if this is
possible) ?

I read the udevsend manpage and it seems that udevsend is supposed to
be called by hotplug, but that doesn't seem to be happening. Is there
a way to get use /sbin/hotplug and have it call udevsend or even have
/sbin/udevsend call /sbin/hotplug so both tools can work?

Thanks,
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Re: Binutils version change

2005-07-11 Thread Matthew Burgess

Daryn Neadow wrote:

Does anyone know why the version of binutils was dropped back for the just
released 6.1 version?

The last SVN version I was running was 20050608 and had binutils-2.16 in it
while the 6.1 version just released has 2.15.94.0.2.2?


It didn't drop back.  The way we develop the book is that we get to a 
certain point and then decide that a release is in order.  At this 
point, the book splits into two development paths.  "trunk" (also known 
as 'svn' or 'development') continues to go full-steam ahead, with 
packages being updated to the latest versions available upstream.  The 
release branch (also known as 'testing'), however, freezes package 
versions unless a critical bug is found in them.  This allows us to 
stabilise the book and have a well-tested combination of packages by the 
time the release is finally made.


Regards,

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Re: Warning on running "make check", second round

2005-07-11 Thread Stephen Liu
Hi Chris,

> No, don't apply the patch - that won't work because
> the glibc versions 

Oh, sorry, too late here, done already.

I re-ran, the second time,
# make check

To my surprise this time it went through without
complaint/warning.

Later I encountered another problem of "Segmentation
fault'.  Then I ran;

# make localedata/install-locales

It went through with only one mistake;
"sid_ET.UTF-8...LC_ADDRESS: `lang_lib' value does not
match `lang_term' value done"

> You'll need to
> remove everything 
> in glibc-build and glibc-2.3.4-20040701 directories
> and rebuild. When 
> you run make check again, you can simply ignore
> those 2 errors I told 
> you about.

OK.  Shall I do it again?

B.R.
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Re: Warning on running "make check", second round

2005-07-11 Thread Chris Staub

Stephen Liu wrote:


Hi Chris,

- snip -

 


Actually, it's a different error (look carefully -
it's "tst-cancelx17" 
- before it was "tst-cancel17"). That's the other
known frequent-failing 
test, also fixed by the patch in the latest LFS.
That error can also be 
ignored. Try "make check" again.
   



Performed following steps

From;
http://www.sg.linuxfromscratch.org/patches/downloads/glibc/
download "glibc-2.3.2-test_lfs-1.patch"

# cp /path/to/glibc-2.3.2-test_lfs-1.patch
/mnt/lfs/sources/glibc-2.3.4-20040701


root:/sources/glibc-build# cd
/sources/glibc-2.3.4-20040701
root:/sources/glibc-2.3.4-20040701# patch -Np1 -i
glibc-2.3.5-fix_test-1.patch
patching file nptl/tst-cancel17.c
# cd ../glibc-build/
root:/sources/glibc-build# make check   


...
make[1]: ***
[/sources/glibc-build/c++-types-check.out] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory
`/sources/glibc-2.3.4-20040701'
make: *** [check] Error 2

Warning still existed.

B.R.
Stephen

 

No, don't apply the patch - that won't work because the glibc versions 
are slightly different. Again, I just mentioned it let you know that the 
errors you got are completely normal. You'll need to remove everything 
in glibc-build and glibc-2.3.4-20040701 directories and rebuild. When 
you run make check again, you can simply ignore those 2 errors I told 
you about.

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Binutils version change

2005-07-11 Thread Daryn Neadow

Does anyone know why the version of binutils was dropped back for the just
released 6.1 version?

The last SVN version I was running was 20050608 and had binutils-2.16 in it
while the 6.1 version just released has 2.15.94.0.2.2?

Thanks


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Re: LFS-Version 7.0-cross-lfs-20050707-x86_64

2005-07-11 Thread Jeremy Huntwork

Luca wrote:

Hi all!

When I give the command LFSHOME=`su - lfs -c 'echo $HOME'` in chapter 
4.5 Creating the $HOME/cross-tools Directory everything hangs. How to 
solve the problem?

Host system is SuSE 9.1, cpu is athlon64.


What exactly do you mean 'everything hangs'? Are you able to use another 
terminal?


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Re: LFS-Version 7.0-cross-lfs-20050707-x86_64

2005-07-11 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, 11 Jul 2005, Luca wrote:

> Hi all!
>
> When I give the command LFSHOME=`su - lfs -c 'echo $HOME'` in chapter
> 4.5 Creating the $HOME/cross-tools Directory everything hangs. How to
> solve the problem?
> Host system is SuSE 9.1, cpu is athlon64.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Luca Piol
>
>

 This sounds as if it might be the 'bash-3.0 hangs with recent glibc'
problem : in LFS, we fix that with the bash-3.0-avoid_WCONTINUED-1.patch
but for fixing the host system, a better approach would be to look for
an update from SuSE.

 However, it seems a little unlikely that a big-name distro would ship
with this sort of problem (unless you've upgraded libc on SuSE), maybe
something else is the problem.

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Re: Hotplug, hotplug-ng, & udev: Versions?

2005-07-11 Thread Joern Abatz
On Sat, Jul 09, 2005 at 10:45:07PM +0100, Declan Moriarty wrote:
> 
> Mind you, I STILL have no /dev/hdc, or /dev/hdd. /proc/ide/ide0 shows me
> hda (all nodes present & correct). There is no hdb in the box.
> 
> /proc/ide/ide1 shows me hdc & hdd as cdroms in the media file. hdd is
> actually a dvd. NO NODES :-((.

See. That's technical progress. Without udev you had to have a zillion
'device files' (and MAKEDEV to help you), and with udev you have to have a
zillion 'rules' and nothing to help you. It's probably meant to improve your
learning abilities.

Check if you compiled a driver or module called 'idecd'. It's in Device
Drivers/Ata Atapi/IDE Atapi CDROM. Or maybe your drive is one of the 'old CD
Roms'? (I think not, though. I'm using old hardware here because of money
problems, but if it was _that_ old, the electrolytic capacitors would have
dried out by now anyway, wouldn't they.)

> Also, btw, loading the 57 framebuffer modules (by running hotplug) seems
> to cure the cursor thing, but gives me the ugliest 80x30 screen setting 
> ever. How does a guy set up his framebuffer modes?

Get fbset (from the Debian guys). But with 640x480 on the framebuffer I kept
getting 80x30 too, so maybe you need to load another font. I don't know how,
though. I guess 'setfont' won't do it, because you have to choose extra
framebuffer fonts in 'make menuconfig'. I think you would need a 8x20 font
to get 80x24 characters, but the biggest framebuffer font is 8x16, giving
the familiar 80x30 characters on 640x480 pixels.

I can only guess right now. I gave up on the whole framebuffer thing myself
on friday, concerning LFS 6.x. I found X11 on the framebuffer was even
slower than on the regular nvidia driver from kernel org. Damn. Everything
is different with kernel 2.6. (Not complaining, just ranting.)

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Segmentation fault

2005-07-11 Thread Stephen Liu
Hi folks,

6.11.1. Installation of Glibc
http://www.sg.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/6.0/chapter06/glibc.html

upto 
root:/sources/glibc-build# touch /etc/ld.so.conf
root:/sources/glibc-build# make install 

All went through without problem


Now coming to re-do
root:/sources/glibc-build# mkdir -p /usr/lib/locale
root:/sources/glibc-build# localedef -i de_DE -f
ISO-8859-1 de_DE
Segmentation fault
root:/sources/glibc-build# localedef -i [EMAIL PROTECTED] -f
ISO-8859-15 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Segmentation fault

What is Segmentation fault.  How to get rid of them.

TIA

B.R.
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Re: Hotplug, hotplug-ng, & udev: Versions?

2005-07-11 Thread Declan Moriarty
Recently, Somebody Somewhere wrote these words
> Declan Moriarty wrote:
> 
> >On the basis that udev-059 should have improved things, (but didn't);
> >udev-060 should have fixed that (but didn't); So udev-061 must work...
> 
> And our survey said"possibly not" :)  Try udev-062!

Too late... Udev-058 went in, and hotplug. By the time I type make
uninstall, there'll probably be udev-065 :-/.

Now whan hotplug runs, I get this from lsmod

af_packet  13128  2
usbhid 24772  0
radeonfb   21396  1
cfbcopyarea 3648  1 radeonfb
cfbimgblt   2752  1 radeonfb
cfbfillrect 3584  1 radeonfb
softcursor  1856  1 radeonfb
via_agp 7680  1
parport_pc 30212  1
snd_cmipci 29184  0
snd_pcm82276  1 snd_cmipci
snd_page_alloc  7620  1 snd_pcm
snd_opl3_lib9280  1 snd_cmipci
snd_timer  21188  2 snd_pcm,snd_opl3_lib
snd_hwdep   7136  1 snd_opl3_lib
snd_mpu401_uart 6144  1 snd_cmipci
snd_rawmidi20512  1 snd_mpu401_uart
snd_seq_device  6924  2 snd_opl3_lib,snd_rawmidi
snd45668  8
snd_cmipci,snd_pcm,snd_opl3_lib,snd_timer,snd_hwdep,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device
soundcore   7392  1 snd
via_rhine  20164  0
usbmouse4352  0
uhci_hcd   30220  0
usbcore   119868  4 usbhid,usbmouse,uhci_hcd
udf84356  0
isofs  24452  0
vfat   10816  0
fat46108  1 vfat

AFTER I have manually removed the ehci_hcd module which gives me
continuous current warnings. I commented it out of the /etc/hotplug.d/
scripts, and checked it wasn't in /etc/rc.d/init.d either :-o.

I have a gigabyte of syslog messages about overcurrent.

Mind you, I STILL have no /dev/hdc, or /dev/hdd. /proc/ide/ide0 shows me
hda (all nodes present & correct). There is no hdb in the box.

/proc/ide/ide1 shows me hdc & hdd as cdroms in the media file. hdd is
actually a dvd. NO NODES :-((.

Also, btw, loading the 57 framebuffer modules (by running hotplug) seems
to cure the cursor thing, but gives me the ugliest 80x30 screen setting 
ever. How does a guy set up his framebuffer modes? It doesn't matter
what I boot on, hotplug screws it up on me :-(.

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LFS-Version 7.0-cross-lfs-20050707-x86_64

2005-07-11 Thread Luca

Hi all!

When I give the command LFSHOME=`su - lfs -c 'echo $HOME'` in chapter 
4.5 Creating the $HOME/cross-tools Directory everything hangs. How to 
solve the problem?

Host system is SuSE 9.1, cpu is athlon64.

Thanks in advance,
Luca Piol 


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Re: Warning on running "make check", second round

2005-07-11 Thread Stephen Liu
Hi Chris,

- snip -

> Actually, it's a different error (look carefully -
> it's "tst-cancelx17" 
> - before it was "tst-cancel17"). That's the other
> known frequent-failing 
> test, also fixed by the patch in the latest LFS.
> That error can also be 
> ignored. Try "make check" again.

Performed following steps

From;
http://www.sg.linuxfromscratch.org/patches/downloads/glibc/
download "glibc-2.3.2-test_lfs-1.patch"

# cp /path/to/glibc-2.3.2-test_lfs-1.patch
/mnt/lfs/sources/glibc-2.3.4-20040701


root:/sources/glibc-build# cd
/sources/glibc-2.3.4-20040701
root:/sources/glibc-2.3.4-20040701# patch -Np1 -i
glibc-2.3.5-fix_test-1.patch
patching file nptl/tst-cancel17.c
# cd ../glibc-build/
root:/sources/glibc-build# make check   

...
make[1]: ***
[/sources/glibc-build/c++-types-check.out] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory
`/sources/glibc-2.3.4-20040701'
make: *** [check] Error 2

Warning still existed.

B.R.
Stephen

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