Re: Which chipset for USB?

2010-03-23 Thread Simon Geard
On Mon, 2010-03-22 at 11:39 -0700, brown wrap wrote:
 I tried that. NO inputs work. Not USB or PS/2 mouse and old XT keyboard.

Ok, that's something. If no input devices work, that might point to
options under HID Devices not being enabled (HID = Human Interface
Device). I have the following enabled (as modules):

Device Drivers - HID Devices
Device Drivers - HID Devices - Generic HID support
Device Drivers - HID Devices - USB Human Interface Device (full HID)
support

Simon.


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Re: Kernel panic - VFS

2010-03-23 Thread Yaacov-Yoseph Weiss
I saw that the list places my messages at the top level of the
threads, and not as a response to previous messages. I assume
this is because I get the digest version, and reply to that and
change the subject. If anyone knows how I can reply correctly,
I'll be glad to comply.

Bruce Dubbs wrote:
 There's way too many different issues for Chapter 8.  Did you read the
 hint referenced in Section 8.3?

 http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/hints/downloads/files/kernel-configuration.txt

Now I did. I didn't mean for details to be included in the book. The hint itself
also doesn't actually reference many specific options. What I intended was
a paragraph or two with the following bits of information:

1. Make sure you enable the relevant options for your hardware.
2. You can usually find hardware information using 'lspci'.
3. Another strategy is to enable many options, (possibly using
'lsmod' as a guide), and then possibly remove options to see
what is necessary.


Mike McCarty wrote:
 I would agree with this except that the kernel is such a rapidly
 moving target, it would require a nearly complete rewrite with each
 new kernel release. Describing the kernel configuration would require
 increasing the size of the book by quite a bit, and it would be a very
 high maintenance part of the book.

I don't know. Adding general pointers shouldn't add too much or
require too much maintenance. I don't expect detailed descriptions
of the options.

 Perhaps just a hints section about how to ascertain what hardware
 is present could be added, however. Perhaps also how to ascertain
 what modules got loaded by the 6.3 LiveCD could be put in, so
 one might have an idea what to build in.

Something like that would definitely be enough.

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Xorg - xtrans

2010-03-23 Thread Yaacov-Yoseph Weiss
During the Xorg Libraries section, xtrans installs itself to:
$XORG_PREFIX/share/pkgconfig/xtrans.pc instead of
$XORG_PREFIX/lib/pkgconfig/xtrans.pc. The next library,
libX11-1.3.2, claims xtrans is not installed, but after copying
the file, all the libraries install cleanly.

Another file installed is $XORG_PREFIX/share/aclocal/xtrans.m4.
I don't know if that should be in lib or not, though it did not stop the
installation (yet).

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Re: Kernel panic - VFS

2010-03-23 Thread stosss
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 3:55 AM, Yaacov-Yoseph Weiss
yywe...@cs.huji.ac.il wrote:
 I saw that the list places my messages at the top level of the
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 change the subject. If anyone knows how I can reply correctly,
 I'll be glad to comply.

The only way would be to remove your address from the digest list to
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Re: Xorg - xtrans

2010-03-23 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 10:07:10AM +0200, Yaacov-Yoseph Weiss wrote:
 During the Xorg Libraries section, xtrans installs itself to:
 $XORG_PREFIX/share/pkgconfig/xtrans.pc instead of
 $XORG_PREFIX/lib/pkgconfig/xtrans.pc. The next library,
 libX11-1.3.2, claims xtrans is not installed, but after copying
 the file, all the libraries install cleanly.

This has been discussed previously:
http://www.mail-archive.com/blfs-...@linuxfromscratch.org/msg09980.html.
This needs to be added into the book, but it should solve the problem.


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Re: Which chipset for USB?

2010-03-23 Thread linux fan
On 3/23/10, Simon Geard delga...@ihug.co.nz wrote:
 On Mon, 2010-03-22 at 11:39 -0700, brown wrap wrote:
 I tried that. NO inputs work. Not USB or PS/2 mouse and old XT keyboard.

 Ok, that's something. If no input devices work, that might point to
 options under HID Devices not being enabled (HID = Human Interface
 Device). I have the following enabled (as modules):

 Device Drivers - HID Devices
 Device Drivers - HID Devices - Generic HID support
 Device Drivers - HID Devices - USB Human Interface Device (full HID)
 support


Just some homework.
Wierd messages in the log.
Are config settings dubious?
IRQ problem?

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brown pastebin sys.log has
http://pastebin.com/EGZYEdMe

Mar 16 22:46:27 guajome-dome kernel: [9.460024] ehci_hcd
:00:04.1: Unlink after no-IRQ?  Controller is probably using the
wrong IRQ.

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brown pastebin config has
http://pastebin.com/TVa6pvbx

CONFIG_GENERIC_HARDIRQS=y
CONFIG_GENERIC_HARDIRQS_NO__DO_IRQ=y
CONFIG_GENERIC_IRQ_PROBE=y
CONFIG_GENERIC_PENDING_IRQ=y
CONFIG_HOTPLUG=y
CONFIG_SPARSE_IRQ=y
CONFIG_NUMA_IRQ_DESC=y
CONFIG_X86_REROUTE_FOR_BROKEN_BOOT_IRQS=y
# CONFIG_MEMORY_HOTPLUG is not set
CONFIG_HOTPLUG_CPU=y
CONFIG_ARCH_ENABLE_MEMORY_HOTPLUG=y
CONFIG_ACPI_HOTPLUG_CPU=y
# CONFIG_HOTPLUG_PCI_PCIE is not set
CONFIG_HT_IRQ=y
CONFIG_HOTPLUG_PCI=y
# CONFIG_HOTPLUG_PCI_FAKE is not set
# CONFIG_HOTPLUG_PCI_ACPI is not set
# CONFIG_HOTPLUG_PCI_CPCI is not set
# CONFIG_HOTPLUG_PCI_SHPC is not set
CONFIG_SERIAL_8250_SHARE_IRQ=y
CONFIG_SERIAL_8250_DETECT_IRQ=y
CONFIG_SND_PCM_OSS_PLUGINS=y
CONFIG_TRACE_IRQFLAGS_SUPPORT=y
# CONFIG_DEBUG_SHIRQ is not set
# CONFIG_IRQSOFF_TRACER is not set
# CONFIG_SECURITY_ROOTPLUG is not set
CONFIG_HID_SUPPORT=y
CONFIG_HID=y
# CONFIG_HIDRAW is not set
CONFIG_USB_HID=y
CONFIG_HID_PID=y
CONFIG_USB_HIDDEV=y
# Special HID drivers
CONFIG_HID_A4TECH=y
CONFIG_HID_APPLE=y
CONFIG_HID_BELKIN=y
CONFIG_HID_CHERRY=y
CONFIG_HID_CHICONY=y
CONFIG_HID_CYPRESS=y
CONFIG_HID_DRAGONRISE=y
CONFIG_HID_EZKEY=y
CONFIG_HID_KYE=y
CONFIG_HID_GYRATION=y
CONFIG_HID_TWINHAN=y
CONFIG_HID_KENSINGTON=y
CONFIG_HID_LOGITECH=y
CONFIG_HID_MICROSOFT=y
CONFIG_HID_MONTEREY=y
CONFIG_HID_NTRIG=y
CONFIG_HID_PANTHERLORD=y
CONFIG_HID_PETALYNX=y
CONFIG_HID_SAMSUNG=y
CONFIG_HID_SONY=y
CONFIG_HID_SUNPLUS=y
CONFIG_HID_GREENASIA=y
CONFIG_HID_SMARTJOYPLUS=y
CONFIG_HID_TOPSEED=y
CONFIG_HID_THRUSTMASTER=y
CONFIG_HID_ZEROPLUS=y


CONFIG_SERIAL_8250_DETECT_IRQ
Help text

Say Y here if you want the kernel to try to guess which IRQ to use for
your serial port.

This is considered unsafe; it is far better to configure the IRQ in a
boot script using the setserial command.

If unsure, say N.


CONFIG_HOTPLUG
Help text

Say Y here if you want to plug devices into your computer while the
system is running, and be able to use them quickly. In many cases, the
devices can likewise be unplugged at any time too.

One well-known example of this is PCMCIA- or PC-cards, credit-card
size devices such as network cards, modems, or hard drives which are
plugged into slots found on all modern laptop computers. Another
example, used on modern desktops as well as laptops, is USB.

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CONFIG_HOTPLUG_PCI
Help text

Say Y here if you have a motherboard with a PCI Hotplug controller.
This allows you to add and remove PCI cards while the machine is
powered up and running.

To compile this driver as a module, choose M here: the module will be
called pci_hotplug.

When in doubt, say N.


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Re: my kernel won't recognize ide drives

2010-03-23 Thread Dominic Ringuet
There is a problem I meet from time to time while trying to minimize the
size of my kernel; using only the mainboard drivers fail without success.
You also have to compile the generic ide drivers into the kernel.

On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 5:01 AM, Jan-Christoph Bornschlegel 
trollf...@googlemail.com wrote:

 William Immendorf schrieb:
  On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 2:24 PM, Scott Kopel sko...@fsu.edu wrote:
  So the question is what kernel configuration changes do I have to make
 to get the kernel to recognize my ide drives? I realize that new kernels
 name ide drives sdx and that's fine. I don't need them to be labeled hdx. I
 simply want them to be recognized by the kernel.
  Look in Device Drivers- Sereal ATA and Parallel ATA drivers, and you
  should see PATA and SATA drivers. Enable one that matches your hard
  disk controller, or just enable Generic ATA Support.


 What I usually do in those cases is matching the output of hwinfo
 against the help texts in the menuconfig.

 I had a special case here because I use a PCI PATA controller card with
 additional drives which needs a different driver than the onboard
 controllers, and these two drivers use different naming schemes, so I
 ended up having hda and sda/sdb, which spoiled grub's menu.lst entries a
 little. So just in case, when booting and unsure which drive has what
 number, use the tab expansion in the grub interactive shell.

 Cheers,
 Jan
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Re: Which chipset for USB?

2010-03-23 Thread linux fan
On 3/23/10, linux fan linuxscra...@gmail.com wrote:

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 Mar 16 22:46:27 guajome-dome kernel: [9.460024] ehci_hcd
 :00:04.1: Unlink after no-IRQ?  Controller is probably using the
 wrong IRQ.

Someone said boot parameter irqpoll is the key.
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81153highlight=noapic+usb
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Re: Which chipset for USB?

2010-03-23 Thread brown wrap




 Someone said boot parameter irqpoll is the key.
 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81153highlight=noapic+usb


OK ! That fixed the old keyboard. I can now at least log in from that. The USB 
ports don't work still, but at least I can now log into the console. Thank you. 
since I don't have KDE working yet, I don't know if the mouse works.




  
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Re: Which chipset for USB?

2010-03-23 Thread Ken Moffat
On 23 March 2010 22:50, brown wrap gra...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Someone said boot parameter irqpoll is the key.
 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81153highlight=noapic+usb


 OK ! That fixed the old keyboard. I can now at least log in from that. The 
 USB ports don't work still, but at least I can now log into the console. 
 Thank you. since I don't have KDE working yet, I don't know if the mouse 
 works.

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 I'm really pleased you've made progress.  But since kde,
even 3.5, is a *large* undertaking, may I suggest that you
try something simpler (I imagine that kde without a mouse
is not a pleasant experience).  A basic window manager
(for those of the hair-shirt persuasion, twm is in the book,
for the rest of us, something like fluxbox is a straight CMMI
without additional dependencies - 1.1.0.1 works for me)
and then a terminal - either xterm or rxvt-unicode.

 With those, you should be able to follow the book to test
Xorg and confirm if the mouse is working.

 Whenever possible, it's much easier to debug problems
when they are kept simple.

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Re: Which chipset for USB?

2010-03-23 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote:
 On 23 March 2010 22:50, brown wrap gra...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Someone said boot parameter irqpoll is the key. 
 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81153highlight=noapic+usb
 
 
 OK ! That fixed the old keyboard. I can now at least log in from
 that. The USB ports don't work still, but at least I can now log
 into the console. Thank you. since I don't have KDE working yet, I
 don't know if the mouse works.
 
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 I'm really pleased you've made progress. 

Me too.

 But since kde, even 3.5, is
 a *large* undertaking, 

Not counting dependencies, it's only aRts, kdelibs, and kedbase.  The 
others are optional.

 may I suggest that you try something simpler

I'd try something even easier first.  GPM.  No dependencies at all and CMMI.

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Re: Which chipset for USB?

2010-03-23 Thread Mike McCarty
brown wrap wrote:
 
 Someone said boot parameter irqpoll is the key.
 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81153highlight=noapic+usb
 
 
 OK ! That fixed the old keyboard. I can now at least log in from

Great! Good work!

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Re: Which chipset for USB?

2010-03-23 Thread brown wrap


 
 Great! Good work!
 
 Mike

Many thanks to LinuxFan, he is the one who discovered the fix.


  
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