Re: [lfs-support] Host System Requirements LFS 7.4 with Mageia 3

2013-11-29 Thread Walter P. Little
On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 10:55 AM,  wrote:

>  On 2013-11-29 18:26, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
>
> alex@xfsmail.comwrote:
>
> My real point is this one. Bash-3.2 (/bin/sh should be a symbolic or hard
> link to bash) I think maybe it means /bin/sh should be /bin/bash ( /bin/sh
> -> /bin/bash) but mine is ( /bin/sh -> /usr/bin/bash ). ( /bin/sh ->
> /bin/bash ) = ( /bin/sh -> /usr/bin/bash ) are they same?
>
> The normal place for bash is /bin because in the case of a separate /usr
> partition it will not be available.  A separate /usr partition is very
> rare because disk drives are quite large and is not needed.
>
> What you have should work fine with regards to bash.
>
>-- Bruce
>
>  Sorry I not really understand that Bruce, alright this is more clear.
>
>
> The requirement is ( /bin/bash ) but I have ( /usr/bin/bash ).
> Can I use ( /usr/bin/bash ) ?
> or I should change it to ( /bin/bash ) ?
>

/usr/bin/bash should be ok as long as /bin/sh points to it

>
> I still get no clue on search engines, maybe there is command to change it
> ? Any help please!
>
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Re: [lfs-support] Host System Requirements LFS 7.4 with Mageia 3

2013-11-29 Thread alex
 

On 2013-11-29 18:26, Bruce Dubbs wrote: 

> alex@xfsmail.comwrote:
>

>> My real point is this one. Bash-3.2 (/bin/sh should be a symbolic or
hard link to bash) I think maybe it means /bin/sh should be /bin/bash (
/bin/sh -> /bin/bash) but mine is ( /bin/sh -> /usr/bin/bash ). (
/bin/sh -> /bin/bash ) = ( /bin/sh -> /usr/bin/bash ) are they same?
>

> The normal place for bash is /bin because in the case of a separate
/usr 
> partition it will not be available. A separate /usr partition is
very 
> rare because disk drives are quite large and is not needed.
> 
>
What you have should work fine with regards to bash.
> 
> --
Bruce

Sorry I not really understand that Bruce, alright this is more
clear. 

The requirement is ( /bin/bash ) but I have ( /usr/bin/bash
).
Can I use ( /usr/bin/bash ) ?
or I should change it to ( /bin/bash )
?

I still get no clue on search engines, maybe there is command to
change it ? Any help please! 

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Re: [lfs-support] Host System Requirements LFS 7.4 with Mageia 3

2013-11-29 Thread alex
 

On 2013-11-29 17:59, lf...@cruziero.com wrote: 

> Your binutils
version is later than the max-recommended in the book's 
>
host-sys-requirements ('7.4/prologue/hostreqs.html'):
> "Binutils-2.17
(Versions greater than 2.23.2 are not recommended as they have 
> not
been tested)"
> 
> However, we here have just recently built a few
(partly-)lfs74-based systems 
> with a similar
'greater-than-max-recommended' versions in host-os for binutils 
> and
gcc (and iirc one or two more core parts), and all was well; (although
they 
> were quite heavily-customised builds, the toolchain part
(chapter-5) was 
> more-or-less 100% by-the-book).
> 
> hth,
> akh
>
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I will take the risk, I'm still new with Mageia, I installed a week
ago and maybe I will go back to Debian later. Thank you for letting me
know about it. 

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Re: [lfs-support] Host System Requirements LFS 7.4 with Mageia 3

2013-11-29 Thread Bruce Dubbs
a...@xfsmail.com wrote:

> My real point is this one.
> Bash-3.2 (/bin/sh should be a symbolic or hard link
> to bash) I think maybe it means /bin/sh should be /bin/bash ( /bin/sh ->
> /bin/bash) but mine is ( /bin/sh -> /usr/bin/bash ).
> ( /bin/sh -> /bin/bash ) = ( /bin/sh -> /usr/bin/bash ) are they same?

The normal place for bash is /bin because in the case of a separate /usr 
partition it will not be available.  A separate /usr partition is very 
rare because disk drives are quite large and is not needed.

What you have should work fine with regards to bash.

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Re: [lfs-support] Host System Requirements LFS 7.4 with Mageia 3

2013-11-29 Thread alex
 

On 2013-11-29 17:52, Bruce Dubbs wrote: 

> alex@xfsmail.comwrote:
>

>> Hi all, I'm still new for LFS, I'm going too try it. I'm with Mageia
3 and this is on the host  bash, version
4.2.37(2)-release /bin/sh -> /usr/bin/bash Binutils: (Linux/GNU
Binutils) 2.23.51.0.8.20121218 bison (GNU Bison) 2.7 /usr/bin/yacc ->
/usr/bin/yacc.bison bzip2, Version 1.0.6, 6-Sept-2010. Coreutils: 8.20
diff (GNU diffutils) 3.2 find (GNU findutils) 4.5.10 GNU Awk 4.0.2
/usr/bin/awk -> /usr/bin/gawk gcc (GCC) 4.7.2 g++ (GCC) 4.7.2 (GNU libc)
2.17 grep (GNU grep) 2.14 gzip 1.5 Linux version
3.8.13-desktop586-1.mga3 (i...@jonund.mageia.org) (gcc version 4.7.2
(GCC) ) #1 SMP Tue May 14 19:06:27 UTC 2013 m4 (GNU M4) 1.4.16
version-check.sh: line 29: make: command not found GNU patch 2.7.1 Perl
version='5.16.3'; sed (GNU sed) 4.2.2 tar (GNU tar) 1.26 Texinfo:
makeinfo (GNU texinfo) 4.13 xz (XZ Utils) 5.1.2alpha g++ compilation OK
 Is my Mageia 3 ready for LFS 7.4 ?
> 
> Not without
make.
> 
> -- Bruce

Sorry about "make" my eyes are not careful.
My real
point is this one.
Bash-3.2 (/bin/sh should be a symbolic or hard link
to bash) I think maybe it means /bin/sh should be /bin/bash ( /bin/sh ->
/bin/bash) but mine is ( /bin/sh -> /usr/bin/bash ).
( /bin/sh ->
/bin/bash ) = ( /bin/sh -> /usr/bin/bash ) are they same?

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Re: [lfs-support] Host System Requirements LFS 7.4 with Mageia 3

2013-11-29 Thread Fernando de Oliveira
Em 29-11-2013 14:52, Bruce Dubbs escreveu:
> a...@xfsmail.com wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi all, I'm still new for LFS, I'm going too try it.
>>
>> I'm with
>> Mageia 3 and this is on the host
>>
>> 
>>
>> bash,
>> version 4.2.37(2)-release
>> /bin/sh -> /usr/bin/bash
>> Binutils: (Linux/GNU
>> Binutils) 2.23.51.0.8.20121218
>> bison (GNU Bison) 2.7
>> /usr/bin/yacc ->
>> /usr/bin/yacc.bison
>> bzip2, Version 1.0.6, 6-Sept-2010.
>> Coreutils:
>> 8.20
>> diff (GNU diffutils) 3.2
>> find (GNU findutils) 4.5.10
>> GNU Awk
>> 4.0.2
>> /usr/bin/awk -> /usr/bin/gawk
>> gcc (GCC) 4.7.2
>> g++ (GCC) 4.7.2
>> (GNU
>> libc) 2.17
>> grep (GNU grep) 2.14
>> gzip 1.5
>> Linux version
>> 3.8.13-desktop586-1.mga3 (i...@jonund.mageia.org) (gcc version 4.7.2
>> (GCC) ) #1 SMP Tue May 14 19:06:27 UTC 2013
>> m4 (GNU M4)
>> 1.4.16
>> version-check.sh: line 29: make: command not found
>> GNU patch
>> 2.7.1
>> Perl version='5.16.3';
>> sed (GNU sed) 4.2.2
>> tar (GNU tar)
>> 1.26
>> Texinfo: makeinfo (GNU texinfo) 4.13
>> xz (XZ Utils) 5.1.2alpha
>> g++
>> compilation OK
>> 
>>
>> Is my Mageia 3 ready for LFS 7.4 ?
> 
> Not without make.
> 
>-- Bruce
> 

I have GNU Make 3.82 in Mageia 3, but do not remember if installed it
for vmware-tools. Anyway, it is in the graphics interface for
installing/removing programs, just search "make" and install, if it is
not already installed.

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Re: [lfs-support] Host System Requirements LFS 7.4 with Mageia 3

2013-11-29 Thread akhiezer
> Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2013 17:47:23 +
> From: a...@xfsmail.com
> To: 
> Subject: [lfs-support] Host System Requirements LFS 7.4 with Mageia 3
>
> Hi all, I'm still new for LFS, I'm going too try it. 
>
> I'm with
> Mageia 3 and this is on the host 
>
>  
>
> bash,
> version 4.2.37(2)-release
> /bin/sh -> /usr/bin/bash
> Binutils: (Linux/GNU
> Binutils) 2.23.51.0.8.20121218


Your binutils version is later than the max-recommended in the book's 
host-sys-requirements ('7.4/prologue/hostreqs.html'):
"Binutils-2.17 (Versions greater than 2.23.2 are not recommended as they have 
not been tested)"

However, we here have just recently built a few (partly-)lfs74-based systems 
with a similar 'greater-than-max-recommended' versions in host-os for binutils 
and gcc (and iirc one or two more core parts), and all was well; (although they 
were quite heavily-customised builds, the toolchain part (chapter-5) was 
more-or-less 100% by-the-book).


hth,
akh


> bison (GNU Bison) 2.7
> /usr/bin/yacc ->
> /usr/bin/yacc.bison
> bzip2, Version 1.0.6, 6-Sept-2010.
> Coreutils:
> 8.20
> diff (GNU diffutils) 3.2
> find (GNU findutils) 4.5.10
> GNU Awk
> 4.0.2
> /usr/bin/awk -> /usr/bin/gawk
> gcc (GCC) 4.7.2
> g++ (GCC) 4.7.2
> (GNU
> libc) 2.17
> grep (GNU grep) 2.14
> gzip 1.5
> Linux version
> 3.8.13-desktop586-1.mga3 (i...@jonund.mageia.org) (gcc version 4.7.2
> (GCC) ) #1 SMP Tue May 14 19:06:27 UTC 2013
> m4 (GNU M4)
> 1.4.16
> version-check.sh: line 29: make: command not found
> GNU patch
> 2.7.1
> Perl version='5.16.3';
> sed (GNU sed) 4.2.2
> tar (GNU tar)
> 1.26
> Texinfo: makeinfo (GNU texinfo) 4.13
> xz (XZ Utils) 5.1.2alpha
> g++
> compilation OK
>  
>
> Is my Mageia 3 ready for LFS 7.4 ?
>
>
> # ALEX # 
>  


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Re: [lfs-support] Host System Requirements LFS 7.4 with Mageia 3

2013-11-29 Thread akhiezer
> Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2013 17:47:23 +
> From: a...@xfsmail.com
> To: 
> Subject: [lfs-support] Host System Requirements LFS 7.4 with Mageia 3
>
> Hi all, I'm still new for LFS, I'm going too try it. 
>
> I'm with
> Mageia 3 and this is on the host 
>
>  
>
> bash,
> version 4.2.37(2)-release
> /bin/sh -> /usr/bin/bash
> Binutils: (Linux/GNU
> Binutils) 2.23.51.0.8.20121218
> bison (GNU Bison) 2.7
> /usr/bin/yacc ->
> /usr/bin/yacc.bison
> bzip2, Version 1.0.6, 6-Sept-2010.
> Coreutils:
> 8.20
> diff (GNU diffutils) 3.2
> find (GNU findutils) 4.5.10
> GNU Awk
> 4.0.2
> /usr/bin/awk -> /usr/bin/gawk
> gcc (GCC) 4.7.2
> g++ (GCC) 4.7.2
> (GNU
> libc) 2.17
> grep (GNU grep) 2.14
> gzip 1.5
> Linux version
> 3.8.13-desktop586-1.mga3 (i...@jonund.mageia.org) (gcc version 4.7.2
> (GCC) ) #1 SMP Tue May 14 19:06:27 UTC 2013
> m4 (GNU M4)
> 1.4.16
> version-check.sh: line 29: make: command not found
> GNU patch
> 2.7.1
> Perl version='5.16.3';
> sed (GNU sed) 4.2.2
> tar (GNU tar)
> 1.26
> Texinfo: makeinfo (GNU texinfo) 4.13
> xz (XZ Utils) 5.1.2alpha
> g++
> compilation OK
>  
>
> Is my Mageia 3 ready for LFS 7.4 ?
>
>
> # ALEX # 
>  

 - an initial glance-over flags up the "version-check.sh: line 29: make: 
command 
not found" : have you got 'make' installed?

Haven't checked your output beyond that.


rgds,
akh




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Re: [lfs-support] Host System Requirements LFS 7.4 with Mageia 3

2013-11-29 Thread Bruce Dubbs
a...@xfsmail.com wrote:
>
>
> Hi all, I'm still new for LFS, I'm going too try it.
>
> I'm with
> Mageia 3 and this is on the host
>
> 
>
> bash,
> version 4.2.37(2)-release
> /bin/sh -> /usr/bin/bash
> Binutils: (Linux/GNU
> Binutils) 2.23.51.0.8.20121218
> bison (GNU Bison) 2.7
> /usr/bin/yacc ->
> /usr/bin/yacc.bison
> bzip2, Version 1.0.6, 6-Sept-2010.
> Coreutils:
> 8.20
> diff (GNU diffutils) 3.2
> find (GNU findutils) 4.5.10
> GNU Awk
> 4.0.2
> /usr/bin/awk -> /usr/bin/gawk
> gcc (GCC) 4.7.2
> g++ (GCC) 4.7.2
> (GNU
> libc) 2.17
> grep (GNU grep) 2.14
> gzip 1.5
> Linux version
> 3.8.13-desktop586-1.mga3 (i...@jonund.mageia.org) (gcc version 4.7.2
> (GCC) ) #1 SMP Tue May 14 19:06:27 UTC 2013
> m4 (GNU M4)
> 1.4.16
> version-check.sh: line 29: make: command not found
> GNU patch
> 2.7.1
> Perl version='5.16.3';
> sed (GNU sed) 4.2.2
> tar (GNU tar)
> 1.26
> Texinfo: makeinfo (GNU texinfo) 4.13
> xz (XZ Utils) 5.1.2alpha
> g++
> compilation OK
> 
>
> Is my Mageia 3 ready for LFS 7.4 ?

Not without make.

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Re: [lfs-support] Host System Requirements LFS 7.4 with Mageia 3

2013-11-29 Thread Denis Mugnier
Hello

Le 29/11/2013 18:47, a...@xfsmail.com a écrit :
> version-check.sh: line 29: make: command not found
I think that the make command must be install.

So your Mageia is not ready for LFS 7.4, and you ? are you ready to read 
the book and your screen ?

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[lfs-support] Host System Requirements LFS 7.4 with Mageia 3

2013-11-29 Thread alex
 

Hi all, I'm still new for LFS, I'm going too try it. 

I'm with
Mageia 3 and this is on the host 

 

bash,
version 4.2.37(2)-release
/bin/sh -> /usr/bin/bash
Binutils: (Linux/GNU
Binutils) 2.23.51.0.8.20121218
bison (GNU Bison) 2.7
/usr/bin/yacc ->
/usr/bin/yacc.bison
bzip2, Version 1.0.6, 6-Sept-2010.
Coreutils:
8.20
diff (GNU diffutils) 3.2
find (GNU findutils) 4.5.10
GNU Awk
4.0.2
/usr/bin/awk -> /usr/bin/gawk
gcc (GCC) 4.7.2
g++ (GCC) 4.7.2
(GNU
libc) 2.17
grep (GNU grep) 2.14
gzip 1.5
Linux version
3.8.13-desktop586-1.mga3 (i...@jonund.mageia.org) (gcc version 4.7.2
(GCC) ) #1 SMP Tue May 14 19:06:27 UTC 2013
m4 (GNU M4)
1.4.16
version-check.sh: line 29: make: command not found
GNU patch
2.7.1
Perl version='5.16.3';
sed (GNU sed) 4.2.2
tar (GNU tar)
1.26
Texinfo: makeinfo (GNU texinfo) 4.13
xz (XZ Utils) 5.1.2alpha
g++
compilation OK
 

Is my Mageia 3 ready for LFS 7.4 ?


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