Re: JHALFS Incompatibilities
Bruce Dubbs wrote:
Yes, it,s a little touchy. You can get that when it's creating /tools, etc.
too.
Just delete the old stuff and start over. The program is not very tolerant
of errors and variations, but once you get it work the way you want, it's
handy.
I looked a little farther, and the problem occurs in LFS/master.sh
inside of build_Makefile(), which tries to cd to the directory
JHALFSDIR/${PROGNAME}-commands. This gets called from jhalfs
when Rebuild the Makefile is selected. If that is not selected,
the tool complains that /media/lfs was not previously populated
by a run of jhalfs.
So, the FIRST time jhalfs is run, it isn't doing something it needs
to do in the way of populating the directory. As I stated, it's
broken, and people who regularly run it won't notice, b/c the
directory structure is present and populated.
As a kludgy work around I have, in times past, extracted the
tarball twice.
Instead, I'd like to suggest that whoever maintains jhalfs figure
out what's wrong and fix it.
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Re: JHALFS Incompatibilities
Bruce Dubbs wrote:
Yes, it,s a little touchy. You can get that when it's creating /tools, etc.
too.
Ok, I've read the source, Luke, and I've got it going.
For the FIRST run one must have
Rebuild Files set to FALSE (not checked)
Rebuild Makefile set to FALSE (not checked)
It now appears to be extracting commands and running ok.
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JHALFS Incompatibilities
I'm using a VM (qemu) to build LFS v 6.8. I'm using the LFS LiveCD
as my build system. I've partitioned and formatted my disc,
and successfully booted the LiveCD. I've downloaded jhalfs-2.3.2
(I understand the one on the LiveCD jhalfs-2.3.1 is broken) and
started setting up my directory structure. Here it is:
/media/lfsbuild directory
/media/BOOK book, v 6.8 XML extracted
/media/jhalfs jhalfs-2.3.2 extracted
/media/archiveplace to put the archived downloads
/media/sourcesplace to put the sources for build
All the directories are writable by the jhalfs user.
I've gone into jhalfs and and done a make, and tried to
set up the configuration. However, when I do a make, I go
through the menu, and upon exit, jhalfs mostly likes it,
but complains that the jhalfs directory and the build directory
conflict. I've given /media/lfs as the build directory, and
used the directory structure mentioned in README. However,
jhalfs doesn't like it. If I rename jhalfs to jhalfs-2.3.2
and create another directory jhalfs, then the tool complains
that other necessary directores underneath jhalfs don't
exist. They appear to be directories in the jhalfs-2.3.2
directory, and appear to contain support scripts.
What I've done before is extract the tarball twice, once
into jhalfs-2.3.2 and once into jhalfs. This doesn't seem
right.
What clue am I missing?
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Re: JHALFS Incompatibilities
Mike McCarty wrote:
I'm using a VM (qemu) to build LFS v 6.8. I'm using the LFS LiveCD
as my build system. I've partitioned and formatted my disc,
and successfully booted the LiveCD. I've downloaded jhalfs-2.3.2
(I understand the one on the LiveCD jhalfs-2.3.1 is broken) and
started setting up my directory structure. Here it is:
/media/lfsbuild directory
/media/BOOK book, v 6.8 XML extracted
/media/jhalfs jhalfs-2.3.2 extracted
/media/archiveplace to put the archived downloads
/media/sourcesplace to put the sources for build
All the directories are writable by the jhalfs user.
I've gone into jhalfs and and done a make, and tried to
set up the configuration. However, when I do a make, I go
through the menu, and upon exit, jhalfs mostly likes it,
but complains that the jhalfs directory and the build directory
conflict. I've given /media/lfs as the build directory, and
used the directory structure mentioned in README. However,
jhalfs doesn't like it. If I rename jhalfs to jhalfs-2.3.2
and create another directory jhalfs, then the tool complains
that other necessary directores underneath jhalfs don't
exist. They appear to be directories in the jhalfs-2.3.2
directory, and appear to contain support scripts.
What I've done before is extract the tarball twice, once
into jhalfs-2.3.2 and once into jhalfs. This doesn't seem
right.
What clue am I missing?
When you go into the VM, extract jhalfs to your /home directory (the
name doesn't matter). Run from there. jhalfs should create
/mnt/lfs/{jhalfs,sources}. I tell it not to mess with sources and then
just copy them manually to /mnt/lfs/sources, because I sometimes make
changes there.
Another easy way is to get the lfs-wget file and do:
cd /mnt/lfs/sources; wget -i ~/lfs-wget
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Re: JHALFS Incompatibilities
Bruce Dubbs wrote:
Mike McCarty wrote:
I'm using a VM (qemu) to build LFS v 6.8. I'm using the LFS LiveCD
as my build system. I've partitioned and formatted my disc,
and successfully booted the LiveCD. I've downloaded jhalfs-2.3.2
(I understand the one on the LiveCD jhalfs-2.3.1 is broken) and
started setting up my directory structure. Here it is:
/media/lfsbuild directory
/media/BOOK book, v 6.8 XML extracted
/media/jhalfs jhalfs-2.3.2 extracted
/media/archiveplace to put the archived downloads
/media/sourcesplace to put the sources for build
All the directories are writable by the jhalfs user.
I've gone into jhalfs and and done a make, and tried to
set up the configuration. However, when I do a make, I go
through the menu, and upon exit, jhalfs mostly likes it,
but complains that the jhalfs directory and the build directory
conflict. I've given /media/lfs as the build directory, and
used the directory structure mentioned in README. However,
jhalfs doesn't like it. If I rename jhalfs to jhalfs-2.3.2
and create another directory jhalfs, then the tool complains
that other necessary directores underneath jhalfs don't
exist. They appear to be directories in the jhalfs-2.3.2
directory, and appear to contain support scripts.
What I've done before is extract the tarball twice, once
into jhalfs-2.3.2 and once into jhalfs. This doesn't seem
right.
What clue am I missing?
When you go into the VM, extract jhalfs to your /home directory (the
name doesn't matter). Run from there. jhalfs should create
/mnt/lfs/{jhalfs,sources}. I tell it not to mess with sources and then
What's the difference between that and running it from
/mnt/lfs/jhalfs-3.2.2? It's a different directory, yet
the tool complains. (BTW, I'm using /media, not /mnt, but
that's not a problem).
just copy them manually to /mnt/lfs/sources, because I sometimes make
changes there.
Another easy way is to get the lfs-wget file and do:
cd /mnt/lfs/sources; wget -i ~/lfs-wget
I just posted (soon to appear, I guess) wondering where wget-list
is for 6.8, since I didn't find it.
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Re: JHALFS Incompatibilities
Bruce Dubbs wrote:
When you go into the VM, extract jhalfs to your /home directory (the
name doesn't matter). Run from there. jhalfs should create
/mnt/lfs/{jhalfs,sources}. I tell it not to mess with sources and then
just copy them manually to /mnt/lfs/sources, because I sometimes make
changes there.
I described what happens. It complains that the directory
structure of jhalfs, and that below, with the helper
scripts, doesn't exist. It does not create them.
Here's the exact error message when I did just what you describe:
LFS/master.sh: line 382: cd: /media/lfs/jhalfs/lfs-commands: No such
file or directory.
THAT'S the problem I was reporting. The directory structure does not
get created, and jhalfs expects it to exist, and to contain the
support scripts which come from the tarball.
In past, a couple of times, I've extracted the tarball twice
to overcome this problem.
Another easy way is to get the lfs-wget file and do:
cd /mnt/lfs/sources; wget -i ~/lfs-wget
Where is the wget-list for 6.8? I haven't found it.
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Re: JHALFS Incompatibilities
Mike McCarty wrote:
Bruce Dubbs wrote:
When you go into the VM, extract jhalfs to your /home directory (the
name doesn't matter). Run from there. jhalfs should create
/mnt/lfs/{jhalfs,sources}. I tell it not to mess with sources and then
What's the difference between that and running it from
/mnt/lfs/jhalfs-3.2.2? It's a different directory, yet
the tool complains. (BTW, I'm using /media, not /mnt, but
that's not a problem).
Don't know. I'd have to look at the code. I've always used ~/jhalfs
(with the current svn version).
just copy them manually to /mnt/lfs/sources, because I sometimes make
changes there.
Another easy way is to get the lfs-wget file and do:
cd /mnt/lfs/sources; wget -i ~/lfs-wget
I just posted (soon to appear, I guess) wondering where wget-list
is for 6.8, since I didn't find it.
If you build the book, you get it automatically, but it's at
http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/development/wget-list
or
http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/6.8/wget-list
(they are different).
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Re: JHALFS Incompatibilities
Mike McCarty wrote:
Bruce Dubbs wrote:
When you go into the VM, extract jhalfs to your /home directory (the
name doesn't matter). Run from there. jhalfs should create
/mnt/lfs/{jhalfs,sources}. I tell it not to mess with sources and then
just copy them manually to /mnt/lfs/sources, because I sometimes make
changes there.
I described what happens. It complains that the directory
structure of jhalfs, and that below, with the helper
scripts, doesn't exist. It does not create them.
Here's the exact error message when I did just what you describe:
LFS/master.sh: line 382: cd: /media/lfs/jhalfs/lfs-commands: No such
file or directory.
So, I ran make again, and accepted everything the way it was,
no changes, and it got farther. This time it's mentioning
that it can't find /media/lfs/jhalfs/pkg_tarball_list for
Chapter5, and again for Chapter6,
grep: /media/lfs/jhalfs/pkg_tarball_list: No such file or directory.
When I do another make, it complains
mkdir: cannot create directory `chapter06-build_2': File exists.
Mike
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Re: JHALFS Incompatibilities
Bruce Dubbs wrote:
Don't know. I'd have to look at the code. I've always used ~/jhalfs
(with the current svn version).
Doesn't work for me, and hasn't worked for me, ever.
I just repeated a trial, and got the same result. It complains that
/media/jhalfs/lfs-commands does not exist.
If you build the book, you get it automatically, but it's at
http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/development/wget-list
or
http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/6.8/wget-list
(they are different).
I can believe it. However, I didn't use VIEW, I used DOWNLOAD,
and it's not there. Is it supposed to be?
http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/download/6.8/wget-list
does not exist.
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Re: JHALFS Incompatibilities
On Apr 21, 2011 12:08 AM, Mike McCarty mike.mcca...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
Mike McCarty wrote:
Bruce Dubbs wrote:
When you go into the VM, extract jhalfs to your /home directory (the
name doesn't matter). Run from there. jhalfs should create
/mnt/lfs/{jhalfs,sources}. I tell it not to mess with sources and then
just copy them manually to /mnt/lfs/sources, because I sometimes make
changes there.
I described what happens. It complains that the directory
structure of jhalfs, and that below, with the helper
scripts, doesn't exist. It does not create them.
Here's the exact error message when I did just what you describe:
LFS/master.sh: line 382: cd: /media/lfs/jhalfs/lfs-commands: No such
file or directory.
Yes, it,s a little touchy. You can get that when it's creating /tools, etc.
too.
Just delete the old stuff and start over. The program is not very tolerant
of errors and variations, but once you get it work the way you want, it's
handy.
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Re: JHALFS Incompatibilities
Bruce Dubbs wrote:
Yes, it,s a little touchy. You can get that when it's creating /tools, etc.
too.
Just delete the old stuff and start over. The program is not very tolerant
of errors and variations, but once you get it work the way you want, it's
handy.
Are you familiar with the term finite state deterministic machine?
If run again, with no other changes, it produces the same results.
I believe that jhalfs-2.3.2 is -broken- and does not work. Perhaps
the one in svn does? Which one do you use?
Mike
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Re: JHALFS Incompatibilities
Bruce Dubbs wrote:
Yes, it,s a little touchy. You can get that when it's creating /tools, etc.
too.
Just delete the old stuff and start over. The program is not very tolerant
of errors and variations, but once you get it work the way you want, it's
handy.
I did what you suggest five times, and each time I got the
same error in the same place. I then downloaded using svn,
and ran that one, and got the same error in the same place.
svn said I checked out version 3535, whatever that means.
In any case, jhalfs is broken.
Mike
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