Re: questions about modifying the temp tool chain

2011-01-13 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Simon Geard wrote: I'm all for making sure the book is clear and unambiguous. But to use your analogy of training wheels, I think they're a bad idea, giving people an unjustified sense of competence because it looks easy. It's *not* easy, and if people are in over their heads, they need to

Re: questions about modifying the temp tool chain

2011-01-13 Thread Simon Geard
On Thu, 2011-01-13 at 10:40 -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: I'm glad gcc comes early because that's where users seem to misapply the instructions a lot. Yeah, it's that bit with extracting the other packages into the GCC directory - it throws both the people who aren't paying attention to the

Re: questions about modifying the temp tool chain

2011-01-12 Thread Simon Geard
On Wed, 2011-01-12 at 09:15 -0500, Neal Murphy wrote: While the Book may be technically correct, it isn't necessarily friendly. To be sure, I'm not suggesting the book be rewritten or reformatted just to coddle people through the entire process. But perhaps a checkbox that shows or hides

questions about modifying the temp tool chain

2011-01-11 Thread mike cutie and maia
hi i got this far and have getting the spechs file to export every time i enter this command i get gcc not found SPECS=`dirname $($LFS_TGT-gcc -print-libgcc-file-name)`/specs -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html

Re: questions about modifying the temp tool chain

2011-01-11 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 05:25:03PM -0600, mike cutie and maia wrote: hi i got this far and have getting the spechs file to export every time i enter this command i get gcc not found SPECS=`dirname $($LFS_TGT-gcc -print-libgcc-file-name)`/specs I'm trying to be charitable here because

Re: questions about modifying the temp tool chain

2011-01-11 Thread Ken Moffat
On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 01:55:24AM +, Ken Moffat wrote: [ stuff ] Alternatively, you've got accessibility issues. I know we've had occasional users with speech readers, but most of us can't advise on the issues. The thought of having to remember all of the information in the book scares

RE: questions about modifying the temp tool chain

2011-01-11 Thread mike cutie and maia
-support-boun...@linuxfromscratch.org] On Behalf Of Ken Moffat Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 8:33 PM To: LFS Support List Subject: Re: questions about modifying the temp tool chain On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 01:55:24AM +, Ken Moffat wrote: [ stuff ] Alternatively, you've got accessibility issues

Re: questions about modifying the temp tool chain

2011-01-11 Thread Neal Murphy
- From: lfs-support-boun...@linuxfromscratch.org [mailto:lfs-support-boun...@linuxfromscratch.org] On Behalf Of Ken Moffat Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 8:33 PM To: LFS Support List Subject: Re: questions about modifying the temp tool chain On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 01:55:24AM +, Ken