Re: [liberationtech] What I've learned from Cryptocat

2012-08-07 Thread Luke Allnutt
With Frank's message in mind, do list members have thoughts about the best dumbed-down guide for activists to stay safer online? I know EFF, MobileActive, and Movements.org have done some good work in this field, but wondered whether there is a consensus on a good short, easy-to-understand

Re: [liberationtech] What I've learned from Cryptocat

2012-08-07 Thread Eric S Johnson
The donor-funded Information Security Coalition is the largest digital-security-for-activists project, so its mentors / cybersecurity officers are among the best repositories of activists journos' experiential information that is key to outlining an online-freedom threat model for each target

Re: [liberationtech] What I've learned from Cryptocat

2012-08-07 Thread Jacob Appelbaum
Eleanor Saitta: On 2012.08.06 18.40, Jacob Appelbaum wrote: Eleanor Saitta: It is true that you have to trust the server operator in both cases. However, having a server configuration which does not completely compromise user privacy (vs. the operator) by default, like Facebook does, is

Re: [liberationtech] What I've learned from Cryptocat

2012-08-07 Thread Jacob Appelbaum
Nadim Kobeissi: OKAY! I just came back from a long, incredibly intense dinner with Jacob, Ian Goldberg and a few other people. Believe it or not, we have actually managed to agree on a conversation model that both answers the concerns of people like Jacob while remaining easy to use and

Re: [liberationtech] What I've learned from Cryptocat

2012-08-07 Thread Jacob Appelbaum
Ali-Reza Anghaie: On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 7:19 PM, Jacob Appelbaum ja...@appelbaum.net wrote: Ali-Reza Anghaie: I don't think it's they don't get it - once explained to even the most jaded they accept the expertise - it's that in the time period with immediate windows of opportunity present

Re: [liberationtech] What I've learned from Cryptocat

2012-08-07 Thread Erik Sundelof
Jillian, Sorry if that came across as directed at someone as it truly was not my intention. It was purely a comment and/or elaboration of the comment of partial defenses using any technology tool. I may feel too strong about tools being discussed as THE solution or THE bulletproof vest so to