Re: [liberationtech] Travel with notebook habit

2012-12-28 Thread Maxim Kammerer
On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 10:49 AM, Julian Oliver jul...@julianoliver.com wrote: I've been extensively questioned at the border on a few occassions over the years /because/ my laptops don't have a Desktop as such, no icons either. Both my arms were grabbed at the Australian border as I reached to

Re: [liberationtech] Google Hangout the new, better skype? Was Re: Skype redux

2012-12-28 Thread Adam Fisk
The content of the communication should be direct in 90% of cases though - not going through Google's servers at all. Granted the Google Voice plugin is a bit of an enigma at this point - not yet based on libjingle or webrtc yet in my understanding. It should migrate though, at which point it will

Re: [liberationtech] Google Hangout the new, better skype? Was Re: Skype redux

2012-12-28 Thread Adam Fisk
I sympathize with your frustration about Google and other companies' unwillingness to talk about their interception capabilities. In the particular case of Hangouts, it seems clear that the Hangout data is encrypted only between the user and Google, and not end-to-end. That doesn't appear

Re: [liberationtech] Google Hangout the new, better skype? Was Re: Skype redux

2012-12-28 Thread Jerzy Łogiewa
Supports, but doesn't mean uses for default! SRTP also supports NULL CIPHER... -- Jerzy Łogiewa -- jerz...@interia.eu On Dec 28, 2012, at 6:14 PM, Adam Fisk wrote: I sympathize with your frustration about Google and other companies' unwillingness to talk about their interception

Re: [liberationtech] Google Hangout the new, better skype? Was Re: Skype redux

2012-12-28 Thread Adam Fisk
On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 11:14 AM, Adam Fisk a...@littleshoot.org wrote: I sympathize with your frustration about Google and other companies' unwillingness to talk about their interception capabilities. In the particular case of Hangouts, it seems clear that the Hangout data is encrypted

Re: [liberationtech] Google Hangout the new, better skype? Was Re: Skype redux

2012-12-28 Thread Adam Fisk
On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 11:47 AM, Jerzy Łogiewa jerz...@interia.eu wrote: Supports, but doesn't mean uses for default! SRTP also supports NULL CIPHER... Right -- ideally one of us would fire up Wireshark to check the defaults. -Adam -- Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at:

Re: [liberationtech] Modern FIDONET for net disable countries?

2012-12-28 Thread The Doctor
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/27/2012 11:54 AM, Jerzy Łogiewa wrote: I wonder, is some FIDONET type service existing for countries where all telecom is disabled? Kind of sneakernet for large packets of messages to be delivered. There are a couple of projects like that