Re: [liberationtech] Facebook: Building Global Community - What's your response to Mark Zuckerberg?

No need to reinvent the wheel, Tim Berners Lee (creator of the World Wide Web) is on it! https://solid.mit.edu/ One of the core problems with the web is that there is no identity layer controlled by the user. SOLID (social linked data) aims to inverse the current feudalism model of social

Re: [liberationtech] Facebook: Building Global Community - What's your response to Mark Zuckerberg?

This is a great email, Rich. I agree with many, if not all, of your points. Now that Liberationtech is becoming independent, should it try to remain a mailing list, or should it also pursue ambitious projects to try to solve these problems? I pose the question to Rich but also more broadly.

Re: [liberationtech] Facebook: Building Global Community - What's your response to Mark Zuckerberg?

On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 02:23:18PM -0800, Yosem Companys wrote: > To protect your privacy and security, stay off Facebook. > > But, to build movements, create an account on Facebook (or Twitter or any > other dominant centralized social network) and try to get as many people to > join. [

Re: [liberationtech] Facebook: Building Global Community - What's your response to Mark Zuckerberg?

Thanks, Rand, for your message. I am going on a business trip tomorrow, but I will definitely read your proposal when I return. In the meantime, I hope others in the list give you feedback. We have an excellent history of vetting proposals and software code. You just have to have a thick skin

Re: [liberationtech] Facebook: Building Global Community - What's your response to Mark Zuckerberg?

Thanks for sharing the doc with the list, Yosem. A shorter URL for the doc is:  http://bit.ly/political-sites Your additions, corrections and suggestions are welcome. I just started adding a section to the doc for Wisdom Councils (crowdsourcing solutions). I

Re: [liberationtech] Facebook: Building Global Community - What's your response to Mark Zuckerberg?

On February 19, 2017 11:57:23 AM Alberto Cammozzo wrote: There is a "privacy divide" emerging issue there. Using FB may help to reach the masses, but some people (activists and not) will never use a FB account and will be unreachable. Same for Google: for instance, the

Re: [liberationtech] Facebook: Building Global Community - What's your response to Mark Zuckerberg?

Hello, all -- This discussion is a good moment for me to seek feedback on a project of mine, the Social Media Alternatives Project (S-MAP, available at www.socialmediaalternatives.org). The project is meant to capture screenshots and basic metadata about alternatives to Facebook and other

Re: [liberationtech] Facebook: Building Global Community - What's your response to Mark Zuckerberg?

There is a "privacy divide" emerging issue there. Using FB may help to reach the masses, but some people (activists and not) will never use a FB account and will be unreachable. Same for Google: for instance, the link below to Google Docs is unavailable with my privacy setting. Some open source

Re: [liberationtech] Facebook: Building Global Community - What's your response to Mark Zuckerberg?

On 02/19/2017 02:36 PM, Yosem Companys wrote: > Maybe we need to build another Diaspora and this time build it right: > open-source, best encryption, Napster-like one-to-one capabilities, > hosting of data in servers in privacy-friendly regimes, ability to > connect to the large social networking

Re: [liberationtech] Facebook: Building Global Community - What's your response to Mark Zuckerberg?

On 02/19/2017 01:46 PM, Al Billings wrote: > Someone remind me again what the alternatives are to Facebook that > are actually easy to use for "normal" users and which they will be > able to quickly sign up and use... Oh, and before I forget, why the need to "sign up"? Why is that a requirement?

Re: [liberationtech] Facebook: Building Global Community - What's your response to Mark Zuckerberg?

Someone remind me again what the alternatives are to Facebook that are actually easy to use for "normal" users and which they will be able to quickly sign up and use... If you say "Diaspora," I'm deleting your email because it isn't, not even a little, easy for normal folks to use nor does it

Re: [liberationtech] Facebook: Building Global Community - What's your response to Mark Zuckerberg?

On 02/19/2017 12:09 PM, Steven Clift wrote: > Quickly now ... I've been building an open source-based, public > creative commons structured, non-profit, members-supported > citizens-based network for twenty-years. I am not criticizing your efforts nor your goals, I am criticizing your choice of

Re: [liberationtech] Facebook: Building Global Community - What's your response to Mark Zuckerberg?

Yep, that's the sad truth. Yosem On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 9:09 AM, Steven Clift wrote: > Quickly now ... I've been building an open source-based, public > creative commons structured, non-profit, members-supported > citizens-based network for twenty-years. > > Here is the

Re: [liberationtech] Facebook: Building Global Community - What's your response to Mark Zuckerberg?

I know. I agree. I have never been thrilled with Steven's selection of Facebook for pro-democracy groups. To protect your privacy and security, stay off Facebook. But, to build movements, create an account on Facebook (or Twitter or any other dominant centralized social network) and try to get

Re: [liberationtech] Facebook: Building Global Community - What's your response to Mark Zuckerberg?

On 17/02/17 17:24, Thomas Delrue wrote: > On February 17, 2017 1:32:46 PM EST, Steven Clift > wrote: >> I invite everyone to read and comment on Mark Zuckerberg's important >> "Building Global Community" letter: >> >>

Re: [liberationtech] Facebook: Building Global Community - What's your response to Mark Zuckerberg?

Relevant: Zuckerberg removed a line about monitoring private messages from his Facebook manifesto http://mashable.com/2017/02/16/mark-zuckerberg-manifesto-ai/#OSZDnazMKkqD FL > On 17-02-2017, at 17:24, Thomas Delrue wrote: > >> On February 17, 2017 1:32:46 PM EST,

[liberationtech] Facebook: Building Global Community - What's your response to Mark Zuckerberg?

I invite everyone to read and comment on Mark Zuckerberg's important "Building Global Community" letter: https://www.facebook.com/groups/buildingglobalcommunity This is a special Facebook Group I've created to connect lots of disparate communities for a unified conversation that I will