On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 11:00:16AM +0100, Bernard Tyers - ei8fdb wrote:
>
> I had to reread the article and the documents a few times, but I think this
> control is *for the short term* very good news. Congrats to PI and all
> involved for sticking a well-placed oar in.
Probably very short. Rel
the practice of
>> those foreign governments. But viewing this simplistically as controlling
>> the tool over controlling the action is a problematic practice if we accept
>> code is speech. The connection with the crypto-wars is the belief that we
>> should aim to criminalize bad behavior, not struggle futilely to outlaw t
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> [liberationtech-boun...@lists.stanford.edu] on behalf of Eric King
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> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 16:21
> To: Jacob Appelbaum
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> Subject: Re: [liberationtech] FinFisher is now controlled by UK export
> controls
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On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 03:59:52PM -0400, Collin Anderson wrote:
>export. http://www.bis.doc.gov/encryption/encfaqs6_17_02.html#6
>Here is a really good, succinct primer presentation on
>regulatory jurisdictions:
> http://www.gibsondunn.com/publications/Documents/WebcastSlides-Encrypti
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 08:17:37PM +0100, Ryan Gallagher wrote:
>Export controls on cryptographic items is not a new development in the UK
>or anywhere else -
>https://www.gov.uk/specialist/export-of-cryptographic-items
>
>The question in the case of FinSpy was whether it was to be
t least)
refuse the export.
In short, this is progress. Good work Eric.
Ryan
> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 18:39:51 +
> From: ja...@appelbaum.net
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> CC: e...@privacy.org
> Subject: Re: [liberationtech] FinFisher is now controlled by UK export
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To: Jacob Appelbaum
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Subject: Re: [liberationtech] FinFisher is now controlled by UK export controls
Hi all,
Apologies, I should have taken longer to explain what we this all means.
To get the obvious bit out of the way: PI spent the f
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 06:39:51PM +, Jacob Appelbaum wrote:
> Eric King:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I thought this list would be interested to know that the British
> > Government has decided to place FinFisher under UK export controls.
> > There are a ton of questions that remain to be answered,
le, they will (theoretically at least)
refuse the export.
In short, this is progress. Good work Eric.
> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 18:39:51 +
> From: ja...@appelbaum.net
> To: liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu
> CC: e...@privacy.org
> Subject: Re: [liberationtech] FinFisher is now
Eric,
Thank you for the clarification, I think it is important to point people to
the standing regulations that matter most, Wassenaar Category 5 Part 2, and
the exemption for FOSS in the control list (which, again, exists for BIS as
ยง740.13). It seems clear from the government's response that the
Hi all,
Apologies, I should have taken longer to explain what we this all means.
To get the obvious bit out of the way: PI spent the first decade of it's
existence fighting the crypto wars and is against government control of
cryptography. While the governments decision is not the outcome we
>
> Did this just undercut the work from the 90s? Wany people explicitly
> fought hard to win the decision of having our free speech rights apply to
> the net for code as speech.
While I am by no means an expert on encryption export policy, and what I
know is limited to the United States, I belie
Eric King:
> Hi all,
>
> I thought this list would be interested to know that the British Government
> has decided to place FinFisher under UK export controls. There are a ton of
> questions that remain to be answered, and it's only part of the bigger goal
> to control the export of surveill
Hi,
On Mon, Sep 10 2012, Eric King wrote:
> The Secretary of State, having carried out an assessment of the
> FinSpy system to which your letter specifically refers, has
> advised Gamma International that the system does require a licence
> to export to all destinations outside the
Hi all,
I thought this list would be interested to know that the British Government has
decided to place FinFisher under UK export controls. There are a ton of
questions that remain to be answered, and it's only part of the bigger goal to
control the export of surveillance technology, but it
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