Re: [liberationtech] iPhone 5S Fingerprint and Records (Was: iPhone5S and 5th amendment)

2013-09-11 Thread Joseph Lorenzo Hall
On Wed Sep 11 12:59:57 2013, The Doctor wrote: A question that hasn't been asked yet (to my knowledge, anyway): Will any of the iProduct copying devices available to LEOs bypass the 5S' fingerprint reader? Not sure about that... certainly the reporting Declan did a few months ago about the

Re: [liberationtech] iPhone 5S Fingerprint and Records (Was: iPhone5S and 5th amendment)

2013-09-11 Thread The Doctor
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/10/2013 05:57 PM, Bill Woodcock wrote: Coming soon to a checkpoint near you: 3D printing in gummi-bear material. Or lifting one of the owner's fingerprints from the device in question and using it to unlock the phone. A question that

Re: [liberationtech] iPhone 5S Fingerprint and Records (Was: iPhone5S and 5th amendment)

2013-09-10 Thread Bill Woodcock
On Sep 10, 2013, at 2:54 PM, Scott Elcomb pse...@gmail.com wrote: Starting a new thread - it's related but a slightly different topic. Despite having several devices with fingerprint scanners, I've never used one. With the release of iPhone 5S and all the discussion around it, I'm

[liberationtech] iPhone 5S Fingerprint and Records (Was: iPhone5S and 5th amendment)

2013-09-10 Thread Scott Elcomb
Starting a new thread - it's related but a slightly different topic. Despite having several devices with fingerprint scanners, I've never used one. With the release of iPhone 5S and all the discussion around it, I'm curious if fingerprints on file with various Law Enforcement agencies could be

Re: [liberationtech] iPhone 5S Fingerprint and Records (Was: iPhone5S and 5th amendment)

2013-09-10 Thread Andy Isaacson
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 05:54:44PM -0400, Scott Elcomb wrote: Starting a new thread - it's related but a slightly different topic. Despite having several devices with fingerprint scanners, I've never used one. With the release of iPhone 5S and all the discussion around it, I'm curious if

Re: [liberationtech] iPhone 5S Fingerprint and Records (Was: iPhone5S and 5th amendment)

2013-09-10 Thread Rodrigo Fernos
Interesting suggestion. (Do note that supposedly the device will read 'deep in the epidermis', through various skin layers. This suggests that a life size image of fingerprint might not actually work.) R On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 5:54 PM, Scott Elcomb pse...@gmail.com wrote: Starting a new

Re: [liberationtech] iPhone 5S Fingerprint and Records (Was: iPhone5S and 5th amendment)

2013-09-10 Thread Rodrigo Fernos
I think the most worrisome issue is that, any security vulnerability will make direct personal information available to hackers. In other words, password theft has no direct implciaiton to your persona, in contrast to bodily information of the fingerprint. If hacked, this might be used for