Re: [liberationtech] Internet blackout

2013-06-14 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 04:27:17PM -0700, Seth David Schoen wrote: These properties are really awesome. One thing that I'm concerned about is that classic Usenet doesn't really do authenticity. It was easy for people to spoof articles, although there would be _some_ genuine path information

Re: [liberationtech] Internet blackout

2013-06-14 Thread Michael Rogers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 14/06/13 12:49, Rich Kulawiec wrote: I think a *possible* fix for it -- or perhaps fix is too strong a term, let me call it an approach -- is to remove the Path: header (among others) and use the article body's checksum as a unique identifier.

Re: [liberationtech] Internet blackout

2013-06-13 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 05:44:38PM -0400, Richard Brooks wrote: This lead me to start thinking about the possibility of deploying something like Fidonet as a tool for getting around Internet blackouts. Has anyone tried something like that? Usenet has long since demonstrated the ability to

Re: [liberationtech] Internet blackout

2013-06-13 Thread Seth David Schoen
Rich Kulawiec writes: Usenet has long since demonstrated the ability to route around amazing amounts of damage and flakiness and to maintain communications over very slow (including sneakernet) links. Arguably, that sentence describes the normal operational state of the network on a

Re: [liberationtech] Internet blackout

2013-06-12 Thread Dan Staples
@Richard: Alternative infrastructure-type projects like Commotion and other mesh networks can certainly be put in place proactively. In fact, that's a goal of Commotion: encouraging communities to build out their own mesh networks, so residents have more ownership and control over their local

[liberationtech] Internet blackout

2013-06-11 Thread Richard Brooks
Just finished interacting with people from a number of countries worried about Internet blackouts being used by their governments to help prevent reporting of unpleasant truths, such as vote-rigging. I discussed with them what Telecomics did for Egypt and other Arab countries and what Commotion

Re: [liberationtech] Internet blackout

2013-06-11 Thread Eleanor Saitta
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2013.06.11 17.44, Richard Brooks wrote: This lead me to start thinking about the possibility of deploying something like Fidonet as a tool for getting around Internet blackouts. Has anyone tried something like that? Not Fidonet, because the

[liberationtech] internet blackout in turkey?

2013-06-01 Thread hc voigt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Everything that is coming through along the hashtags #occupygezi or #direngezipark? is coming from outside Istanbul and lacks any new infos and pictures from within the city; or even from within turkey. After having done so last night, I'm again

Re: [liberationtech] internet blackout in turkey?

2013-06-01 Thread Andrew Lewis
I heard rumors, on reddit so take this with a grain of salt, that power was being cut off to neighborhoods with protests. As for the capacity to cutoff Internet, I suspect every country to have a contingency for that. -Andrew On Jun 1, 2013, at 10:51 PM, hc voigt sozw...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [liberationtech] internet blackout in turkey?

2013-06-01 Thread KheOps
Good day everyone, Le 01/06/2013 12:50, hc voigt a écrit : Everything that is coming through along the hashtags #occupygezi or #direngezipark? is coming from outside Istanbul and lacks any new infos and pictures from within the city; or even from within turkey. After having done so last

Re: [liberationtech] internet blackout in turkey?

2013-06-01 Thread Ruben Bloemgarten
We have reports from inside Taksim that yesterday 3G was unavailable in Taksim itself, but telephony was fine. Simple moving to a street near Taksim would reestablish 3G connectivity. It´s unclear if this is intentional or simply the network being overloaded. Also people seem to be removing

Re: [liberationtech] internet blackout in turkey?

2013-06-01 Thread Rayna
Hey, The Renesys report from Nov 2012 provides some info: http://www.renesys.com/blog/2012/11/could-it-happen-in-your-countr.shtml Turkey is in the 'Low risk' column (code: TR). Opinions vary though: [...] Turkey, by contrast, has numerous excellent providers (many using networks beyond their own

Re: [liberationtech] internet blackout in turkey?

2013-06-01 Thread Dr.Arif YILDIRIM
No internet blackout in turkey! I am on twitter as purescapism tweeting about the protests all over turkey! Dr.Arif YILDIRIM On 1 Haz 2013, at 15:14, Rayna rayna...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, The Renesys report from Nov 2012 provides some info:

Re: [liberationtech] internet blackout in turkey?

2013-06-01 Thread KheOps
Le 01/06/2013 15:33, Dr.Arif YILDIRIM a écrit : No internet blackout in turkey! I am on twitter as purescapism tweeting about the protests all over turkey! Can you yell which ISP you are using? We have report that TTNet and Turkcell blocked Facebook and Twitter. Could it be possible to get

Re: [liberationtech] internet blackout in turkey?

2013-06-01 Thread Dr.Arif YILDIRIM
In some places they use jammers but no wide Internet block out. I am using turkcell and Turksat. Is that ok with you? Dr.Arif YILDIRIM On 1 Haz 2013, at 16:50, KheOps khe...@ceops.eu wrote: Le 01/06/2013 15:33, Dr.Arif YILDIRIM a écrit : No internet blackout in turkey! I am on twitter as

Re: [liberationtech] internet blackout in turkey?

2013-06-01 Thread Dr.Arif YILDIRIM
Livestream links that you can see what's going on: http://newmedia.pivol.com/dhafeed2.htm http://newmedia.pivol.com/dhafeed.htm http://www.livestream.com/revoltistanbul You can watch but sometimes freezing! Dr.Arif YILDIRIM On 1 Haz 2013, at 16:50, KheOps khe...@ceops.eu wrote: Le

Re: [liberationtech] internet blackout in turkey?

2013-06-01 Thread Dr.Arif YILDIRIM
Unfortunately I do not have evidence for jammers, it can be maybe so overload... But I do confirm no blackout for Turksat and turkcell for now. Dr.Arif YILDIRIM On 1 Haz 2013, at 17:23, KheOps khe...@ceops.eu wrote: Le 01/06/2013 16:04, Dr.Arif YILDIRIM a écrit : In some places they use

Re: [liberationtech] internet blackout in turkey?

2013-06-01 Thread Yosem Companys
RT @denizergurel: @pdacosta @nycjim @Reuters there are reports of a DDos Attack in Turkey, not an internet blackout http://t.co/IWZL08lRBw On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 7:30 AM, Dr.Arif YILDIRIM arifyildi...@gmail.com wrote: Unfortunately I do not have evidence for jammers, it can be maybe so

Re: [liberationtech] internet blackout in turkey?

2013-06-01 Thread sheilaruthparks
-Original Message- From: compa...@stanford.edu To: liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu Cc: Sent: 2013-06-01 10:58:07 GMT Subject: Re: [liberationtech] internet blackout in turkey? RT @denizergurel: @pdacosta @nycjim @Reuters there are reports of a DDos Attack in Turkey, not an internet