Re: [liberationtech] // freevpn.me //
Shelley: The general rule of free services, as I'm sure most on this list know, is: you are not the client, you are the product. I don't use free VPNs or free email, etc. nor do I recommend them to anyone. the general rule should be that vpns are always a roll of the dice. paid or free, both have the ability to track you. those that say they don't or won't often do if their business model is threatened by someone powerful enough. thus, if privacy and/or anonymity is the goal, mitigating steps before and after connecting to the vpn should be taken (unaffiliated public access point, tor/tails/whonix, etc.). -- gpg key - 0x2A49578A7291BB34 fingerprint - 63C4 E106 AC6A 5F2F DDB2 3840 2A49 578A 7291 BB34 -- Liberationtech is public archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu.
Re: [liberationtech] // freevpn.me //
..on Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 01:47:38PM +, Tempest wrote: Shelley: The general rule of free services, as I'm sure most on this list know, is: you are not the client, you are the product. I don't use free VPNs or free email, etc. nor do I recommend them to anyone. the general rule should be that vpns are always a roll of the dice. paid or free, both have the ability to track you. those that say they don't or won't often do if their business model is threatened by someone powerful enough. thus, if privacy and/or anonymity is the goal, mitigating steps before and after connecting to the vpn should be taken (unaffiliated public access point, tor/tails/whonix, etc.). Agreed. And in any case, there may be situations where it's more sane to use a VPN you have no reason to trust (to tunnel you across a hostile border (or route segment)) than using no VPN at all. I was once in a situation where I urgently needed SSH access to my server but couldn't, as SSH appeared to be blocked at the firewalled. I could only assume DPI was the culprit, as I was ssh'ing on port 443. With only a Windows laptop (belonging to someone I didn't know well) at my disposal I did the forbidden and used a PPTP VPN (famously breakable) through a VPN host I knew nothing about. In this case, trust in either protocol or provider presented little risk: I SSH'd with a jailed account (to lower threat from password capture (local keylogger or evil endpoint)), checked I was actually on my server, su'd to another user and all was well. As usual, context rules the threat model. Cheers, -- Julian Oliver http://julianoliver.com http://criticalengineering.org PGP key: https://julianoliver.com/key.asc Beware the auto-complete life. -- Liberationtech is public archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu.
Re: [liberationtech] // freevpn.me //
On July 26, 2015 9:59:04 AM Julian Oliver jul...@julianoliver.com wrote: Hi list, Does anyone have any dirt (or information at all) on http://freevpn.me? They have an oddly absent reputation, quote themselves (whilst giving the appearance the quote is from a review) and seem to have no company/project footprint elsewhere (that I can find). A whois shows domain registration was mid 2013. Cheers, -- Julian Oliver http://julianoliver.com http://criticalengineering.org PGP key: https://julianoliver.com/key.asc Beware the auto-complete life. I couldn't find much independent/unbiased info either. As it is hosted on cloudflare, I would be wary of it anyway. Jmo. -s -- Liberationtech is public archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu.
Re: [liberationtech] // freevpn.me //
..on Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 07:54:10PM +, azrak_k...@hotmail.com wrote: Rule of thumb with VPNs do not use one unless you dont trust its source. This looks unreliable and I will be vary of it. Agreed - I run my own OpenVPN servers. I came across 'FreeVPN' while compiling a list of public and free OpenVPN offerings, and no-one seems to know a thing about them. Cheers, Julian On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 10:57 AM -0700, Shelley shel...@misanthropia.org wrote: On July 26, 2015 9:59:04 AM Julian Oliver jul...@julianoliver.com wrote: Hi list, Does anyone have any dirt (or information at all) on http://freevpn.me? They have an oddly absent reputation, quote themselves (whilst giving the appearance the quote is from a review) and seem to have no company/project footprint elsewhere (that I can find). A whois shows domain registration was mid 2013. Cheers, -- Julian Oliver http://julianoliver.com http://criticalengineering.org PGP key: https://julianoliver.com/key.asc Beware the auto-complete life. I couldn't find much independent/unbiased info either. As it is hosted on cloudflare, I would be wary of it anyway. Jmo. -s -- Liberationtech is public archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu. -- Liberationtech is public archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu. -- Julian Oliver http://julianoliver.com http://criticalengineering.org PGP key: https://julianoliver.com/key.asc Beware the auto-complete life. -- Liberationtech is public archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu.
Re: [liberationtech] // freevpn.me //
Rule of thumb with VPNs do not use one unless you dont trust its source. This looks unreliable and I will be vary of it. A Sent by Outlook for Android On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 10:57 AM -0700, Shelley shel...@misanthropia.org wrote: On July 26, 2015 9:59:04 AM Julian Oliver jul...@julianoliver.com wrote: Hi list, Does anyone have any dirt (or information at all) on http://freevpn.me? They have an oddly absent reputation, quote themselves (whilst giving the appearance the quote is from a review) and seem to have no company/project footprint elsewhere (that I can find). A whois shows domain registration was mid 2013. Cheers, -- Julian Oliver http://julianoliver.com http://criticalengineering.org PGP key: https://julianoliver.com/key.asc Beware the auto-complete life. I couldn't find much independent/unbiased info either. As it is hosted on cloudflare, I would be wary of it anyway. Jmo. -s -- Liberationtech is public archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu. -- Liberationtech is public archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu.
Re: [liberationtech] // freevpn.me //
On July 26, 2015 1:03:51 PM Julian Oliver jul...@julianoliver.com wrote: ..on Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 07:54:10PM +, azrak_k...@hotmail.com wrote: Rule of thumb with VPNs do not use one unless you dont trust its source. This looks unreliable and I will be vary of it. Agreed - I run my own OpenVPN servers. I came across 'FreeVPN' while compiling a list of public and free OpenVPN offerings, and no-one seems to know a thing about them. Cheers, Julian The general rule of free services, as I'm sure most on this list know, is: you are not the client, you are the product. I don't use free VPNs or free email, etc. nor do I recommend them to anyone. -s On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 10:57 AM -0700, Shelley shel...@misanthropia.org wrote: On July 26, 2015 9:59:04 AM Julian Oliver jul...@julianoliver.com wrote: Hi list, Does anyone have any dirt (or information at all) on http://freevpn.me? They have an oddly absent reputation, quote themselves (whilst giving the appearance the quote is from a review) and seem to have no company/project footprint elsewhere (that I can find). A whois shows domain registration was mid 2013. Cheers, -- Julian Oliver http://julianoliver.com http://criticalengineering.org PGP key: https://julianoliver.com/key.asc Beware the auto-complete life. I couldn't find much independent/unbiased info either. As it is hosted on cloudflare, I would be wary of it anyway. Jmo. -s -- Liberationtech is public archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu.
