Re: [TDF Community] [Board Discuss] LibreOffice - peer2peer collaboration bits

2024-05-04 Thread Eyal Rozenberg
Moving the follow-up here, as Thorsten suggested. So, I'm arguing that we can side-step the need for "discovery" in the P2P sense. Or even more fundamentally: P2P has several meanings. There is "peer-to-peer networking", where nodes build an ad-hoc network in which they need such peer discovery;

Re: Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2023-Apr-24

2024-04-24 Thread Eyal Rozenberg
Sorry for missing a meeting with a few of "my own" bug reports... On 24/04/2024 21:58, Heiko Tietze wrote:  * Want indication of whether a master slide is in use or not    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=160403    + MSO Powerpoints shows the number of slides in a

Re: ESC meeting minutes: 2024-04-04

2024-04-04 Thread Eyal Rozenberg
Shame on the BoD - current and previous - for carrying out the entire hiring process for a RTL/CTL/CJK develop while completely shutting out (*) the RTL language community, for the second time, despite the explicit protest and demand not to do so. And it is unfortunate that the ESC acknowledges

Re: ESC meeting minutes: 2024-04-04

2024-04-04 Thread Eyal Rozenberg
Shame on the BoD - current and previous - for carrying out the entire hiring process for a RTL/CTL/CJK develop while completely shutting out (*) the RTL language community, for the second time, despite the explicit protest and demand not to do so. And it is unfortunate that the ESC acknowledges

Re: Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2023-Feb-22

2024-02-22 Thread Eyal Rozenberg
On 22/02/2024 16:46, Heiko Tietze wrote:  * Simplified options dialogs You seem to have ignored the basic problem with how this bug has been handled, which I pointed out in comment: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90989#c9    + name, icons, interface, colors, ui

Re: Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2023-Feb-22

2024-02-22 Thread Eyal Rozenberg
On 22/02/2024 16:46, Heiko Tietze wrote:  * Simplified options dialogs You seem to have ignored the basic problem with how this bug has been handled, which I pointed out in comment: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90989#c9    + name, icons, interface, colors, ui

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2023-Dec-20

2023-12-22 Thread Eyal Rozenberg
regarding modification date etc.) ? On 22/12/2023 9:11, Heiko Tietze wrote: On 21.12.23 20:05, Eyal Rozenberg wrote: "LibreOffice unexpectedly and strangely modifies an ODT file without they user having done anything, and embedding unnecessary fonts nobody asked it to." Sounds like ano

Re: Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2023-Dec-20

2023-12-21 Thread Eyal Rozenberg
I want to draw our attention to the first bug which was on the agenda in yesterday's design meeting: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158588 I would say that bug is misnamed. It should be called: "LibreOffice unexpectedly and strangely modifies an ODT file without they user

The Gallery and shapes, following the UX/design meeting 2023-Nov-30

2023-12-01 Thread Eyal Rozenberg
In this week's design meeting, bug 158253 came up: Shapes-via-Gallery is problematic & partially redundant with the Shapes sub-toolbars and sidebar https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158253 I was not available to attend (it was during my work hours); but since this is not

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Weekly focus: SVG / We ducked below 1000 unconfirmed bugs

2023-11-07 Thread Eyal Rozenberg
I just had a look at the UNCONFIRMED_set chart on BugZilla: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/chart.cgi?category=LibreOffice=UNCONFIRMED_set=2919=2919=All=wrap=1100=350 so, congrats on getting below 1000, but the behavior of that graph is kind of weird: * Perfectly linear increase in

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] ESC meeting agenda: 2023-09-28 16:00 CEST

2023-09-29 Thread Eyal Rozenberg
ble there will be an automatic updater mechanism in place, see the ESC minutes from yesterday ( https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2023-September/091022.html "The UI/UX aspect of how to deal with security vulnerabilities" topic) Regards On 28/9/23 23:26, Eyal Rozenber

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] ESC meeting agenda: 2023-09-28 16:00 CEST

2023-09-28 Thread Eyal Rozenberg
Cheers Sophi Le 28/09/2023 à 21:36, Eyal Rozenberg a écrit : I second John's sentiment. For the vast majority of LibreOffice users, this security problem is _not_ fixed. And that is because they run versions of LibreOffice with the vulnerability but without the fix; and have not been made aware

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] ESC meeting agenda: 2023-09-28 16:00 CEST

2023-09-28 Thread Eyal Rozenberg
On Thu, 28 Sept 2023 at 8:13 am, Miklos Vajna wrote: Hi Eyal, On Wed, Sep 27, 2023 at 08:31:04PM +0300, Eyal Rozenberg mailto:eyalr...@gmx.com>> wrote: > I would like to ask you to discuss the situation with the recent CVE: > https://bugs.documentfoundation

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] ESC meeting agenda: 2023-09-28 16:00 CEST

2023-09-27 Thread Eyal Rozenberg
llou made 45 changes in 1 month, and 468 changes in 1 year   Eyal Rozenberg made 41 changes in 1 month, and 324 changes in 1 year   Kaganski, Mike made 29 changes in 1 month, and 144 changes in 1 year   Dieter made 20 changes in 1 month, and 247 changes in 1 year

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [libreoffice-design] Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2023-Jul-13

2023-07-13 Thread Eyal Rozenberg
Oh, no, no, no, come on... I know I wasn't in the session (which I couldn't since it was in the middle of a workday), but - there had been extensive discussion on the bug pages, and the session itself seems to have just ignore it all. This is really exasperating.

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] ESC budget item review meeting agenda: 2023-06-22 16:00 CEST

2023-06-22 Thread Eyal Rozenberg
Unfortunately, I won't be able to make it... :-( Can you explain what the "reviewed items" list means? The other lists have suggestions regarding what to do with each item; is the "reviewed items" list what you're planning to go over during the meeting? Also, on a semi-related note and looking

Re: Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2023-Jun-15

2023-06-16 Thread Eyal Rozenberg
On 15/06/2023 18:29, Heiko Tietze wrote: Present: Happy, Hossein, Heiko Comments: Mike, Dieter, Eyal Tickets/Topics  * More centralized endnote/footnote settings    + make footnote numbering page-style-specific, rename the Insert > F dialog "Out-of-order Note" or "Special Note",

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2023-Jun-15

2023-06-16 Thread Eyal Rozenberg
On 15/06/2023 18:29, Heiko Tietze wrote: Present: Happy, Hossein, Heiko Comments: Mike, Dieter, Eyal Tickets/Topics  * More centralized endnote/footnote settings    + make footnote numbering page-style-specific, rename the Insert > F dialog "Out-of-order Note" or "Special Note",

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] QA Quick Start

2023-06-08 Thread Eyal Rozenberg
LibreOffice, like any application, is in a continuing process of gradual change. Sometimes, these changes make bugs disappear - intentionally, or incidentally due to other changes. It is important for developers to know whether this has happened for a reported bug, because if it has: *

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] ESC meeting minutes: 2023-06-01

2023-06-02 Thread Eyal Rozenberg
About the tender project proposals: The minutes refer to this list: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Budget2022 but - there is also this list: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Budget2023 I know that May 28th has passed, but these minutes were only sent

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] ESC meeting minutes: 2023-06-01

2023-06-02 Thread Eyal Rozenberg
About the tender project proposals: The minutes refer to this list: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Budget2022 but - there is also this list: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Budget2023 I know that May 28th has passed, but these minutes were only sent

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] Moving to LibreOffice 8?

2023-04-06 Thread Eyal Rozenberg
To put last thing first: I'm not staunchly opposed to bumping the version number to 8. So think of this as a theoretical discussion. Anyway... Noting Italo's explanation that: > 80% (and probably more) of what we communicate is targeted to "normal" software users, and not to community members

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] Moving to LibreOffice 8?

2023-04-06 Thread Eyal Rozenberg
ers (for both enterprise and individual profiles).  I'm not saying that we should embrace the Firefox approach, but thinking about Italo's idea (8 <-> infinite), I guess the message of this version could be consolidation, not exactly innovation. Best Gustavo On Tue, Mar 28, 2023 at 4

Re: [libreoffice-design] Moving to LibreOffice 8?

2023-03-28 Thread Eyal Rozenberg
I respectfully disagree with Italo. First, about the "frame of reference". In my opinion, decisions such as major version number bumping are not, first and foremost, marketing decisions. That is a _consideration_, since the version number is declarative than technical. But - such an action

Re: [libreoffice-design] Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2023-Feb-15

2023-02-16 Thread Eyal Rozenberg
the modification. Please don't understand input from UX as a gatekeeper to the development, you are free to reopen tickets and seek for response from other people. Cheers, Heiko On 15.02.23 22:41, Eyal Rozenberg wrote: Heiko, you again scheduled bugs of mine for a discussion without taking

Re: [libreoffice-design] Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2023-Feb-15

2023-02-15 Thread Eyal Rozenberg
Heiko, you again scheduled bugs of mine for a discussion without taking a moment to check whether I can join the meeting. I asked you not to do that and I'm asking you again. This is unfair, especially after I've explicitly asked that you not do that. The treatment of these bugs is usually

Re: [libreoffice-design] Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2023-Jan-12

2023-01-12 Thread Eyal Rozenberg
I have to protest meeting in which most bugs up for discussion are ones I've either filed or have been part of the discussion on, scheduled without consulting me regarding the time. I'm at work in the afternoon and can usually not attend at these hours. And then of course when I'm not there,

Re: [libreoffice-design] Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2022-Nov-17

2022-11-17 Thread Eyal Rozenberg
On 17/11/2022 16:28, Heiko Tietze wrote:  * Allow regular deletion of selection containing an entire    generated index/table    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=152030    + at creation time and later it is possible to unset the protection flag    + the context menu

Re: [libreoffice-design] Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2022-Nov-03

2022-11-04 Thread Eyal Rozenberg
On 03/11/2022 15:20, Heiko Tietze wrote:  * Writer: Caption strings should be set to document language instead    of UI language    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=151020    + use translation from PS for variable names requested on ask.libo (André)    + not much of

Re: [libreoffice-design] Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2022-Jul-13

2022-07-14 Thread Eyal Rozenberg
On 14/07/2022 0:44, John Mills wrote: Do you consider people manipulated by asking them an unambiguous question that would default to no? "Would you like to place a bet of 100 EUR on a die roll, winning an extra 100 on a 6 and losing otherwise? [N/Y]: N_ Suppose I ask a million people this

Re: [libreoffice-design] Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2022-Jul-13

2022-07-13 Thread Eyal Rozenberg
There are a more concerns, and questions, and potential answers to questions. These include additions I've made after the session concluded, based partially on my points in the chat, and as suggested I do by Heiko. For now I'll just add the Questions section after my additions. Questions +

Re: [libreoffice-design] Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2022-May-19

2022-05-23 Thread Eyal Rozenberg
So, about https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=143197 ... The bug author, ajlittoz, wrote: > to be honest, it took me years to develop a satisfactory mental model, though I read thoroughly the available documentation I had asked on the bug page regarding whether or not this

[Libreoffice-commits] core.git: sw/inc sw/uiconfig

2021-06-15 Thread Eyal Rozenberg (via logerrit)
sw/inc/strings.hrc |8 sw/uiconfig/swriter/ui/fldrefpage.ui |4 ++-- 2 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-) New commits: commit 81472692c4ee0b12c6d2184823faefa7a53431e6 Author: Eyal Rozenberg AuthorDate: Sat May 29 09:56:22 2021 +0200 Commit

License statement

2021-02-18 Thread Eyal Rozenberg
All of my past & future contributions to LibreOffice may be licensed under the MPLv2/LGPLv3+ dual license. ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice

[Libreoffice-commits] core.git: officecfg/registry

2021-02-16 Thread Eyal Rozenberg (via logerrit)
officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/VCL.xcu |2 +- 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) New commits: commit 21da461f374357198bafaea02e28d24de02c6772 Author: Eyal Rozenberg AuthorDate: Sat Feb 13 10:20:36 2021 +0100 Commit: Ilmari Lauhakangas CommitDate: Tue Feb 16 15:15

Referral from Bugzilla: GZipping releases for nothing

2021-02-11 Thread Eyal Rozenberg
, the gzipping doesn't seem to reduce the total size. So - please consider not gzipping. You're just wasting people's CPU cycles for decompressing the tarball. Why not just distribute libreoffice_whatever.tar ? Respectfully, Eyal Rozenberg PS - Self-introduction for my first post: w.r.t

Request for help building LO on Windows - unistd missing errors

2012-10-05 Thread Eyal Rozenberg
Hi, (I'm not sure this list is the right venue - please tell me if it isn't.) In the hopes of implementing this missing feature: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55436 I'm trying to build LO on Windows (XP). I seem to have downloaded everything necessary, passing the autogen and