Re: [Libreoffice] minutes of tech steering call ...

2011-06-27 Thread plino
Petr Mladek wrote: It is well recommended to use daily builds from http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/. They include the very last fixes and can be installed in parallel with the announced builds. That may be true for other OSes but not for Windows. Once LO gets to 3.5.x that will

Re: [Libreoffice] minutes of tech steering call ...

2011-06-23 Thread plino
Cor Nouws wrote: Plus - especially with the unfortunate experience from 3.4.0, and to do something good for users, testers, marketing etc - IMO it is better that in the end we have three weeks extra, than that we lack three days. So I would really love to be on the save side .. Thank

Re: [Libreoffice] Error message when closing LO 3.4 Beta 2

2011-05-29 Thread plino
I'm running the master~2011-05-26_21.20.06_LibO-Dev_OOO340m1_Win_x86_install_en-US.exe build and I get the same error message I got in 3.4.0 Beta2 Does this mean that this fix was not committed to the trunk? Or is it another similar error? -- View this message in context:

Re: [Libreoffice] Word doesn't see symbols

2011-05-27 Thread plino
I'm not a dev (and this mailing list is for devs only). But your problem isn't related to doc compatibility (or any format, for that matter). If the person you are sending the file doesn't the font you are using and the font used to replace doesn't have the symbols you are using, the only option

[Libreoffice] Windows installer translations

2011-05-21 Thread plino
Hi all May I suggest that all the translation files for the Windows setup (after unpacking) are placed in a subfolder (e.g. trans) and the setup.ini modified accordingly? I.e. from [languages] count=104 default=1033 lang1=1078,trans_af.mst ... to [languages] count=104 default=1033

Re: [Libreoffice] [ANNOUNCE] libreoffice-3.3.99.4 tag created (3.4.0-beta4)

2011-05-08 Thread plino
Now that 3.4 Beta 4 is out, is there any chance that someone could automate the creation of daily/nightly builds from the master for all platforms? Currently only Linux-FC11 users have regular daily builds from master (although curiously not from the 3.4 branch?) -- View this message in context:

Re: [Libreoffice] [ANNOUNCE] libreoffice-3.3.99.4 tag created (3.4.0-beta4)

2011-05-05 Thread plino
When you do a code freeze for a Beta (or any) release it means that a branch is created and to that branch only fixes are added but not new features, correct? Are the fixes to the Beta branch incorporated to the main code (trunk?)? I.e. the trunk contains all the fixes from the Beta branch plus

Re: [Libreoffice] [ANNOUNCE] libreoffice-3.3.99.4 tag created (3.4.0-beta4)

2011-05-05 Thread plino
not unusual in software development to skip releases... On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 10:16 AM, Michael Meeks [via Document Foundation Mail Archive] ml-node+2902654-2051771822-251...@n3.nabble.com wrote: Hi there, On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 01:13 -0700, plino wrote: When you do a code freeze for a Beta (or any

Re: [Libreoffice] [ANNOUNCE] libreoffice-3.3.99.4 tag created (3.4.0-beta4)

2011-05-05 Thread plino
Am I wrong to assume that a current nightly build from the 3.4 branch is a better option for Beta testing (since the dev build fix was committed) than the official Beta4? Right - that should be so. Why not skip Beta4 and release Beta5? It's not unusual in software development

Re: [Libreoffice] [ANNOUNCE] libreoffice-3.3.99.4 tag created (3.4.0-beta4)

2011-05-05 Thread plino
If you mean the --enable-release-build switch, that has been introduced to the master branch only. This means that it won't be available in the Windows nightlies either (unless there are plans to build master nightlies, currently there is only an empty 3.4 folder) Please note that we have

Re: [Libreoffice] [ANNOUNCE] libreoffice-3.3.99.4 tag created (3.4.0-beta4)

2011-05-04 Thread plino
Hi Tor Thank you for your clear answers! Yes, that is more or less the definition of release candidate, isn't it? Please remember that it in principle isn't known in advance which release candidate is good enough to be declared a release. The last release candidate is *exactly* the same as

Re: [Libreoffice] [libreoffice-l10n] Re: REMINDER: Release 3.4.0-rc1 from ooo-build-3-2-1 branch == string and UI freeze

2011-05-04 Thread plino
Hi Jan Could this also be the case for daily Windows builds? There is a single daily build (from April 20th) at http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/Windows_Release_Configuration/ -- View this message in context:

Re: [Libreoffice] [ANNOUNCE] libreoffice-3.3.99.4 tag created (3.4.0-beta4)

2011-05-03 Thread plino
I'm not sure I understand this: does this mean that RC releases are not considered temporary builds and will be allowed to replace the previous stable build? Will Beta4 overwrite my stable 3.3.2? -- View this message in context:

[Libreoffice] Error message when closing LO 3.4 Beta 2

2011-04-26 Thread plino
Am I the only one getting this error message under Windows (XP Pro SP3 Eng_US)? http://img153.imageshack.us/i/lo34beta2.png/ I'm using LO 3.4 Beta 2 (but this also occurred under Beta 1, but not on 3.3.2) BTW congratulations (and thanks) to the Devs for cutting over 50Mb on the Win installer ;)

Re: [Libreoffice] Error message when closing LO 3.4 Beta 2

2011-04-26 Thread plino
Thank you for the quick answer, Tor. I was finding it odd that nobody had reported it before. Could this be the same bug that you patched with a workaround previously? https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31494 -- View this message in context:

[Libreoffice] Non-functional Beta?

2011-04-15 Thread plino
Hi all This is a warning/question: I just installed LO 3.4 Beta 1 under Windows XP Pro SP3 (from the install_multi.exe file) and there are no buttons on the interface (just text) and opening any ods/odt file (curiously no error for doc or xls!) results in General Error. General Input/Output

Re: [Libreoffice] LibreOffice 3.4 Beta 1 available

2011-04-15 Thread plino
I think I will keep the release of this beta as a secret. Anyhow there is more than enough interesting news :-) Too late :) http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice-3-4-Beta-1-available-tp2825422p2825422.html

Re: [Libreoffice] update service

2011-04-13 Thread plino
It is quite interesting that this message from one of the members of the Steering Committee is unanswered since 12 February. Maybe I'm wrong about the importance of this feature but it puzzles me that both OOo and LO seem to ignore having an update mechanism. IMO adding this single feature would

Re: [Libreoffice] update service

2011-04-13 Thread plino
I meant what the OP was talking about: an update service. Obviously if there is such a service one would need to have a method to check for such updates. But that is totally secondary comparing to downloading updates instead of whole packages. It's obvious that most (all?) developers have

Re: [Libreoffice] over-long extensions manager list ...

2011-02-02 Thread plino
If I may contribute with my 2cents why not use the best ideas already on the field? The perfect installer IMHO should start with a simple box to select the language used by the installer itself (where the detected locale is suggested) An example is the first screen for the FLOSS Abiword

Re: [Libreoffice] over-long extensions manager list ...

2011-02-02 Thread plino
Jesús, obviously a CD/DVD installer should include everything. This is a suggestion for a downloadable installer where size matters :) -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/MS-Windows-about-dictionaries-installation-tp2382566p2404670.html Sent from the Dev

Re: [Libreoffice] Remove old Word 6.0/95 save as support

2011-02-02 Thread plino
I think jonathon-4's suggestion is brilliant! Keep the currently used formats in the Save As (sorted please!) dialog and old cryptic formats in a Export to option. This way no formats are lost but functionality is increased. -- View this message in context:

Re: [Libreoffice] Impressive mockups

2011-01-31 Thread plino
Absolutely fantastic! Brilliant use of all this wasted space in a wide screen while writing in a portrait page! This just makes me think how the MS innovative big fat ribbon on top was wasting valuable screen space. Congratulations to whoever had this brilliant idea. I hope it is implemented

Re: [Libreoffice] RC4 / Windows size analysis ...

2011-01-24 Thread plino
Can you get rid of those 120 zero byte files or are these needed? -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/RC4-Windows-size-analysis-tp2302919p2319901.html Sent from the Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___

Re: [Libreoffice] RC4 / Windows size analysis ...

2011-01-22 Thread plino
As soon as you remove the extra language packs and dictionaries, as well as the extensions, I'm sure it will go down to the same size as the OOo installer ;) -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/RC4-Windows-size-analysis-tp2302919p2311479.html Sent from the Dev

Re: [Libreoffice] Serious bug on LO Windows installer

2011-01-21 Thread plino
Hi Michael I did receive the email by Tor at the time. But I checked the Nabble site and my message was listed as pending until 1 AM, i.e 12 hours later... (and I have subscribed to this mailing list) This is the first time I'm using a mailing list that converts to a Forum and honestly I hate

Re: [Libreoffice] Serious bug on LO Windows installer

2011-01-21 Thread plino
Thanks for clarifying that, Kevin. I still prefer a good ol' forum any day :) I agree with you that devs should not waste time with forums. But on the other hand, even an ignorant like me ;) who can't write a like of code, could contribute on such site as a Moderator or a Forum Helper...

Re: [Libreoffice] Serious bug on LO Windows installer

2011-01-21 Thread plino
This might not be a Dev problem but since it's still related to the Windows installer... The RC4 installer correctly identified my location (once) and modified the installer language accordingly (I would prefer to choose it myself even if the installer provides a suggestion) The text on the

[Libreoffice] Serious bug on LO Windows installer

2011-01-20 Thread plino
I had already detected this and confirmed with the latest installer (for RC4): LO installer somehow modifies the attributes of the All Users Desktop folder when it adds the LibreOffice lnk to the desktop. The All Users Desktop folder is a System Folder and usually can not be modified or

Re: [Libreoffice] Serious bug on LO Windows installer

2011-01-20 Thread plino
Oops.. Sorry, I forgot to mention that this was under Windows XP Pro Sp3. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Serious-bug-on-LO-Windows-installer-tp2294391p2294709.html Sent from the Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [Libreoffice] Serious bug on LO Windows installer

2011-01-20 Thread plino
Wow. It took 12 hours for my post to show up... I'm really looking forward to a real Forum... I agree Tor, only an advanced user like me (and apparently you :) ) has an empty All Users Desktop folder. And obvioulsy I wouldn't allow a desktop shortcut if I wasn't testing ;) But what worries me

Re: [Libreoffice] Leftovers

2011-01-17 Thread plino
Sure, no problem ;) Leftover files/folders C:\Program Files\LibreOffice 3\share C:\Program Files\LibreOffice 3\share\prereg C:\Program Files\LibreOffice 3\share\uno_packages C:\Program Files\LibreOffice 3\share\prereg\bundled C:\Program Files\LibreOffice 3\share\prereg\bundled\registry

Re: [Libreoffice] Change executable/sh names

2011-01-15 Thread plino
Jesús, thank you for the new build. Unfortunately it doesn't fix the problem. Even if it did, the next time a user installs an OOo update wouldn't the problem appear again? If you add your fix to LO only, OOo updates won't unfix it? I can't see any other permanent solution than renaming the

Re: [Libreoffice] Change executable/sh names

2011-01-15 Thread plino
I'm afraid it's not fixed yet. I think the problem is that e.g. ODS is associated with OOo's scalc as the default application and to LibO's scalc as an alternate program. These are not stored in the SAME registry Key. For xls which is associated with MS Excel (on my system), both OOo and LibO

Re: [Libreoffice] Change executable/sh names

2011-01-14 Thread plino
Michael, please don't regard this as a personal complaint. I think many users who are currently using OOo will have this problem when they try LO (and update any of them). I think it's a bad idea to cause grievance to users who are giving it a go. IMO it will make them stick to OOo... Changing

Re: [Libreoffice] [Windows] Executable name and file association

2010-12-20 Thread plino
Yes, I'm doing this for testing purposes This is not odd at all. Most LibreOffice users will be OpenOffice users. And I imagine that many will install LibreOffice without uninstalling OpenOffice at least for some time... -- View this message in context:

Re: [Libreoffice] [Windows] Executable name and file association

2010-12-20 Thread plino
Hi Jesús I uninstalled both and I got the two options in Open with as you mentioned. I guess this problem is more common than expected. And probably will happen to many previous OpenOffice users? -- View this message in context:

Re: [Libreoffice] Support info links still point to openoffice.org

2010-12-17 Thread plino
Thank YOU for the feedback. Looking forward to RC2 ;) -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Support-info-links-still-point-to-openoffice-org-tp2101694p2105001.html Sent from the Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

[Libreoffice] Support info links still point to openoffice.org

2010-12-16 Thread plino
In the Windows Add/Remove list each program has a link Click here for support information. Clicking on this link for LibreOffice RC1 displays the following window http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n2101694/Support.png (I know the image is too wide but that seems to be a problem with

[Libreoffice] [Windows] Executable name and file association

2010-12-13 Thread plino
Renaming the executables from s*.exe to l*.exe has been discussed and apart from the differentiation of office suites it has a practical implication for Windows users: An extension (e.g. ods) is associated with an exe file (e.g. scalc.exe). If the user has installed OpenOffice AND LibreOffice,

Re: [Libreoffice] Comments on RC1

2010-12-08 Thread plino
Wait - you also complained about RC1's size ? and then again here with a link ? :-) and Charles told you're we're working on fixing it, which is what we are doing ... No. LO is NOT working on it. This has been discussed on other topics since late Nov (Beta1 or 2)