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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] MySQL native connector for OS X
Might get better results emailing the user list - more people on that list and this seems like a user (can I do this) question. Best, Joel On 09/22/2014 08:59 AM, Dan Lewis wrote: Can MySQL be accessed on an Apple computer using a native connector? If so, what is the URL for where it is located? If not, how can it be accessed and the URL for the connector's location? A couple of years ago, I made a MySQL native connectors for Linux 32 and 64 bit. Should these be updated? What version should they be made against? Dan ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/ ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Update to wiki Development/Java page
Hey Owen -
I'd assume since there were no objections in nearly a week just go ahead
and do it :) Worst case we can revert the changes if someone gets really
upset ;)
Best,
Joel
On 09/07/2014 05:22 AM, Owen Genat wrote:
I have just made an update to the wiki Development/Java page:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Java
I have left the original list of directories and JAR files in place, but
would like to solicit feedback if it would be OK to update/replace these
using the output from the commands now indicated on this page. These
commands will hopefully help keep this page more easily up-to-date and
accurate e.g., using each end-of-train/series source archive.
If this seems OK, the {{maybe-outdated}} tag can then also likely be
removed.
Thanks, Owen.
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] request for more boilerplate responses to bug report
Hi All, Am 10.09.2014 um 02:55 schrieb Terrence Enger: I have noticed that Urmas has been abruptly closing bug reports that are in languages other than English. What an arrogant behavior :-( I do wish he'd do it more tactfully - I close them also but I leave a comment and direct them to their native mailing list for translation. How about first putting them into NEEDINFO state and asking for translation here or in the l10n list? I'm not a 100% fan of this because then the description is not in English and we have to dig down to find where it is translated at. There were several localization bugs written in German I remember - they were perfectly handled by the NL-Team in their native language without any need to translate them back and forth. This might be true for other bug reports too as there are still many people in the world not speaking english. A NEEDSTRANSLATION keyword could also help if we could somehow report those bugs to an appropriate list (l10n would be my choice if people there agree but qa might even be better as most qa-interested NL-folks at least lurk here). At this point I don't see enough of these to add yet another whiteboard/keyword. A total of 6 seems too low for yet more things to track. The French ones are surprising as we have the French BSA, we are talking about other native BSA's also but in all honesty, hard to justify the time when the #'s are this low. Just my thoughts. Best, Joel ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] BSA 2.0 - First Draft of Concept Questions
Hey Algot, Question about the second step. 2.What was the earliest version of LibreOffice that showed this bug? If there is only to be a checklist for this question, it is important to offer the option I have not done the steps which caused the bug until this version. and/or This is the first version of LibreOffice I have used. +1 The rest of the sequence seems logical and easy to follow, especially for a novice bug submitter. Will this sequence put off a veteran submitter? Well veteran submitters tend to go right to FDO so they wouldn't have to answer these questions :) Best, Joel ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] BSA 2.0 - First Draft of Concept Questions
On 09/10/2014 04:32 PM, Jay Philips wrote: Hey Joel, Yes i think a step by step process is a nice user friendly way to go. When Calligra Words crashed on me, their step by step bug report was fun to go through. About your doc, here are some thoughts. 1) I'm assuming that many users coming to the BSA are coming through the Help Send Feedback menu item and the libreoffice version number will be provided through this link, so the first question should be for the user to enter in the libreoffice version they are using and that the list be automatically set to the version present in the link. After the user selects his version, or simply clicks ok as his version is already selected, then either it takes him to the 'please upgrade your version' notice or step 2. Not sure I'm following this. 2) I think we should ask them to download the latest stable/still version if they are running an EOL version or if they are on an older version of the current stable/still. I strongly disagree - if it's fixed in Fresh - that is sufficient 95% of the time (ie. we're not going to go dig through to find a backport if stable isn't fixed). The idea here is to lessen the load on QA, not to increase, and this would increase it. Else they download stable, confirm that their minor bug is still in it, report, we find that it's fixed in Fresh, and just set to WFM. This is not the ideal situation. They can always download stable - we'll just direct them to the Fresh page, if they go to the Stable branch, fine. 3) Step 2 should be asking the user for his operating system, with that being automatically selected by means of javascript through the user's browser agent (florian already has that code). Takes more work to implement. Florian's thing is a concept, not currently workable without additional steps by user. 3) Step 3 should be asking them if this is a bug report or an enhancement request and this step should be skipped if the user clicks the two different links on http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/feedback/ , as presently they link to the same page. Again this takes more work and coding WITHIN LibreOffice but I'm not opposed to the idea. 4) Step 4 is only for users who are submitting a bug report and that asks them if this bug had happened in a previous version and shows the version list with the first entry being something like i'm not sure. Yup agreed. 5) I think it would be great to have bug priority set by simple yes/no questions, but think that is the job of the QA team to set that feature, and a simple yes/no question of whether it hangs/crashes is sufficient for BSA bug reporters. This would just set a quasi setting that could always be changed, I disagree that we can't ask users to help us. Else - the reality is we don't have the time to even triage bugs let alone deal with prioritizing them. A rough idea through 4 questions seems fine and if users are unhappy answering 4 simple questions, I have little patience for taking my time to triage their bugs. Best, Joel ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Lower case Greek letters (FDO#80650)
Hi All, Just wanted to raise awareness of this one. If anyone has some time to poke it. Regression with nearly 50 comments on it and I get pinged daily with dupes or more people saying that it's still an issue in a comment. Thanks Best, Joel ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
User wants to say thanks
Thought I'd pass this along as it meant something to me at least :) https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=83264 Best, Joel ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Base 4.3.0.4 has serious problems with forms with subforms within subforms
Awesome - thanks Dan for testing it out. Best, Joel On 08/24/2014 11:22 AM, elderdanlewis wrote: FYI about bug #81520: I have downloaded the master Libreoffice for 4.4. I can confirm that this bug has been fixed. Dan Original message From: Dan Lewis Date:08/08/2014 2:49 PM (GMT-05:00) To: LibreOffice QA Subject: Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Base 4.3.0.4 has serious problems with forms with subforms within subforms There are now three bug reports on this particular problem: 81976, 82150 (mine), and 82151 (filed by the person who mentioned the problem in the user list). I have marked mine as a duplicate of 81976. Between the three bug reports, there are three databases which exhibit the problem. How much confirmation is needed? Any idea when this might be fixed? ( 81976 was filed for 4.3.0.0RC). Dan On 08/04/2014 04:06 PM, elderdanlewis wrote: Bug report 82150. As promised I attached an ODB file with the problem. It's part of the Base guide. Dan Original message From: Joel Madero Date:08/04/2014 3:41 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Dan Lewis ,libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Subject: Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Base 4.3.0.4 has serious problems with forms with subforms within subforms Sure thing - just link us to the bug report and make sure there are repro steps on the bug report. Thanks! Best, Joel On 08/04/14 12:32, Dan Lewis wrote: The same embedded database with subforms within subforms will open and work properly using 4.2.6.2. I am using Debian x86_64 version. Specifically, the primary-foreign key pair are not joined within the form. If a query is created with all the controls of the form, all the information is visible. If controls are placed in the form for this primary-foreign key pair, the controls do NOT have the same value regardless of what record is selected. I will be filing a bug shortly. It would be nice if someone could verify this problem. I will also upload the database to the bug report. Dan ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address:Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings:http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems?http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more:http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive:http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/ ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/ ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [Math] Icons flickering, when moving mouse pointer between different symbols
Thanks for confirming. It's best to post comments on the bug itself. If you have the time to bibisect the bug that would be great. https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/HowToBibisect Best, Joel On 08/16/2014 07:32 PM, piotrjurkiewicz wrote: Hi, I experience the same problem. That is very annoying. Furthermore, not only icon flickers when I move mouse pointer over them. Window controls, like buttons or list boxes, flicker too. Sometimes when I move mouse over them they become broken. I believe that is not intended. I have found a bug report regarding icons: https://www.libreoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=69932 My setup: Ubuntu 12.04 x64 kernel 3.5 Graphics: Intel HD 4000 Libreoffice Version: 4.3.0.4 Build ID: 430m0(Build:4) -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Libreoffice-qa-Math-Icons-flickering-when-moving-mouse-pointer-between-different-symbols-tp4100568p4119251.html Sent from the QA mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/ ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Suggestion for the use of pre-written responses
Hey there, Jay, *, Not sure that codifying a bunch of approved QA exchanges is in the best interest of moving the QA process along--especially if we have to dig them out of a WiKi. It would not do much to improve the QA flow, nor improve the readability of issues over their life span. Otherwise, during triage we should all strive to be courteous. By itself, the automated message delivered *** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug x *** is a bit too terse in closing a NEW issue as duplicate. But believe including a simple thank you for posting would suffice. If too many bugs like fdo#82701 are making it through, then the Bugzilla and BSA duplicate issue filters may need to be improved. I don't think he was trying to codify - maybe more just saying I'm posting these to the wiki - feel free to use (or not use) them at your pleasure :) I've thought of doing similar things with my auto responses but of course everyone can use their own methodology :) Best, Joel ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Suggestion for the use of pre-written responses
Hey there, Jay, *, Not sure that codifying a bunch of approved QA exchanges is in the best interest of moving the QA process along--especially if we have to dig them out of a WiKi. It would not do much to improve the QA flow, nor improve the readability of issues over their life span. Otherwise, during triage we should all strive to be courteous. By itself, the automated message delivered *** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug x *** is a bit too terse in closing a NEW issue as duplicate. But believe including a simple thank you for posting would suffice. If too many bugs like fdo#82701 are making it through, then the Bugzilla and BSA duplicate issue filters may need to be improved. I don't think he was trying to codify - maybe more just saying I'm posting these to the wiki - feel free to use (or not use) them at your pleasure :) I've thought of doing similar things with my auto responses but of course everyone can use their own methodology :) Best, Joel ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] New Easy Hack for QA Team
Hi All - If you have some spare cycles please check out new easy hack below: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=82632 Summary: Add bibisectRequest to regressions - we have some new people doing bibisects (thanks so much!) and I'd love to get the regressions tagged so they can easily find those bugs that need bibisects. Thanks! Best, Joel ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [bugzilla-dae...@freedesktop.org: [Bug 79811] FILESAVE: Make Hybrid PDF just another format for Save commands instead of Export.]
Well - I lied, let's stick to procedures, but I've taken first action: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Bugzilla/Policies_and_Procedures Best, Joel On 08/08/2014 07:21 AM, David Tardon wrote: Hi, could we block this user's bugzilla account? He is apparently a troll and all attempts to reason with him have failed. D. - Forwarded message from bugzilla-dae...@freedesktop.org - Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 14:04:05 + From: bugzilla-dae...@freedesktop.org To: dtar...@redhat.com Subject: [Bug 79811] FILESAVE: Make Hybrid PDF just another format for Save commands instead of Export. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=79811 Aleve Sicofante asicofa...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added Status|RESOLVED|UNCONFIRMED Resolution|WONTFIX |--- Ever confirmed|1 |0 --- Comment #29 from Aleve Sicofante asicofa...@gmail.com --- OK. I'm leaving this vipers nest now. Will try to explain this suggestion to people with higher responsibilities in LibreOffice or eventually migrate to an application that respects their users and don't respond to suggestions with the absurdly agressive hostility I've experienced here. Not exactly a challenge, btw; it's unlikely ANY organization who cares about end users would treat people with the attitued shown here by recognized members of the community. Shame on you. Bye. ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] help
Hi Eric, I suggest you email the user mailing list instead - many more eyes than the QA list :) Best, Joel On 08/03/2014 04:26 AM, Eric P wrote: Hi I am trying to post a question on one of the libreoffice forums but I am running a linux distro that has a lot of java security so I cannot see the recaptcha to post anywhere (it happens to all websites that use recaptcha, it simply does not show up). So I am forced to use this method of communication sorry if this is spamming or annoying in some way, but if you made it possible to use your forums without recaptcha, then I wouldn't have to use this email list. Anyways my question that I tried to post is below, if someone could anwser it that would be really nice, thanks. I am making a biosynthesis pathway in my thesis using libreoffice impress and I made a circular arrow that goes down quite a ways from the point of origin and as a result the arrow head has gotten quite large, but that is not what I want to happen, so is there some way to decrease its size without decreasing the size of the arrow? Maybe there is an option or a box somwhere that I am missing? Thanks -- Cheers, Eric ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/ ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Another Round of Interoperability
Hello. Is useful expecially in Italy. Our Public Administrations use a lot of rtf files for their workflow and we have a lot of problem with this orrible file format. :( Often the bug report doesn't contain the whiteboard tag or the description is not so clear. so, a meta is useful for quickly identify and verify a new interoperability problem. Yes, I am meeting this problem too. Working with rtf in LibreOffice is painfull. If you believe that metabug helps developers - let it be. I add some old bugs. We should not foget about them. Before opening a meta bug I suggest pinging the dev list (and particularly the rtf expert(s) and ask them if it will help at all. We have quite a few meta bugs that are literally never looked at. How would this be better than just putting filter:rtf on all of them? Would it do something extra? Best, Joel -- *Joel Madero* LibreOffice QA Volunteer jmadero@gmail.com ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Update whiteboard wiki page
Hey Alxander, On 08/04/14 05:00, Aleksandr P wrote: Hello. Some weeks ago there was a discussion about whiteboard, but information in wiki is incomplete. For example, I can not find information about such statuses as filter:doc or filter:rtf. Also I see both “filter:rtf” and “rtf_filter” for some bugs which seems to be the same. Could somebody update wiki to display current QA position? Today we have 2 whiteboard wiki pages: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Bugzilla/Fields/Whiteboard https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Bugzilla/Fields/Whiteboard/Advanced Indeed I see them missing ;) Good thing about wiki is that anyone can update it :-D The filter:xxx decision was made not too long ago - feel free to add it. More than it, some information is in https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/BugTriage#Step_5._Set_Status which should be revised. Revise in any way you see fit :) We have another person working on that page also. Cc'ed here. Maybe between the two of you, the page can get complete :) Best, Joel ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Base 4.3.0.4 has serious problems with forms with subforms within subforms
Sure thing - just link us to the bug report and make sure there are repro steps on the bug report. Thanks! Best, Joel On 08/04/14 12:32, Dan Lewis wrote: The same embedded database with subforms within subforms will open and work properly using 4.2.6.2. I am using Debian x86_64 version. Specifically, the primary-foreign key pair are not joined within the form. If a query is created with all the controls of the form, all the information is visible. If controls are placed in the form for this primary-foreign key pair, the controls do NOT have the same value regardless of what record is selected. I will be filing a bug shortly. It would be nice if someone could verify this problem. I will also upload the database to the bug report. Dan ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/ ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] REPOENED Status
Hi All, I'm noticing quite a few QA members using REOPENED incorrectly so this is just a reminder. REOPENED is for a bug that has been marked as FIXED by a developer and is currently assigned to that developer. It is *not *for a bug that has been marked as WORKSFORME (ie. never confirmed or a bug that we think was fixed but a developer never said this). For these bugs the bug should be put back to UNCONFIRMED with a comment. Please make sure to do this (currently we have a couple hundred reopened bugs that I have to manually check to see if they are correct). Also when closing a bug as WORKSFORME please tell the user to set the bug to UNCONFIRMED if they can still reproduce (and not just say reopen the bug if you can still confirm - as they then put the bug in REOPENED status which is again...not correct). I know it's a bit confusing but it is what it is. Best, Joel -- *Joel Madero* LibreOffice QA Volunteer jmadero@gmail.com ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] REPOENED Status
Hey Florian, Hi Joel, I do not remember any direct way from WFM to UNCONFIRMED. I have not done much lately, but REOPENED was the only meaningful way to get it out of resolved state... Anyway, thanks for highlighting :) Yeah - best to go from WORKSFORME to NEEDINFO and then to UNCONFIRMED. I know a bit of a pain, but no more of a pain than me having to dig through REOPENED bugs to figure out which ones are really REOPENED and which ones I have to move back to UNCONFIRMED :-D Best, Joel -- *Joel Madero* LibreOffice QA Volunteer jmadero@gmail.com ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bacchanaly around Bug 81041
I suggest everyone ignore this On 07/30/2014 10:38 AM, Urmas wrote: Interesting things happen in LO QA community. Instead of reading 4.3 release notes, as an adequate person would, Jay Philips in comment 15 starts being rude (and authoritative) to me, which I —knowing about the dreck open source generally attracts— can look over; but than he snitches me over to the moderator, which is unacceptable. Fistly, is that 'person' going to excuse itself?, Secondly, I would like to get an official response: is LO a project where the adequate and sane people work, and it is safe for normal people to interact with, or is it some Gnome-like community of 1½ faggots in a circle? Providing a reputation of LO as a commercial-grade professional software, I would like to receive some explanations about faggots and snitches in its public-faced parts being the QA community. Language like this is completely unacceptable and it's not the first time that you've been told this. With that, I have no other comment on any other part of this. Best, Joel ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Toolbar Proposal Completed
A big +1 to everything Jay wrote. Change in of itself will cause angst for some users but that is the nature of our project. With the tremendous amount of statistics backing Jay's proposal, I give a thumbs up. That being said - why isn't UX included in on this discussion? This isn't really a QA issue at all ;) Best, Joel On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 1:48 PM, Jay Philips philip...@hotmail.com wrote: On 07/27/2014 12:06 PM, Tommy wrote: On Sun, 27 Jul 2014 00:22:18 +0200, Jay Philips philip...@hotmail.com wrote: experienced UI users would not take any benefit from a change since they will keep using their custom preset The advantage would be that they would have less buttons to add/remove from the toolbars than they usually do, as your toolbar screenshot showed. :) unexperienced user who never customized the toolbar could be disoriented by the new setup, thinking some buttons have been removed Well change isnt a bad thing if it makes things better for users, which is why we have new features added to libreoffice on each release. Unexperienced users who never use buttons like data sources or navigator, would benefit from buttons like insert image and insert footnote. The toolbars havent been update in 9 years and with statistics on how often users use the toolbar buttons, there are benefits to revamping the toolbars. And with everyone taking notice of the new toolbars, they will look at it with a new set of eyes to see what new functionality has been brought to it. And when users dont find the necessary buttons in the toolbar, they go through the menus looking for the functionality. if they never customized it before why should they do it after you change the default set? The text you quoted doesnt correspond to your reply. The text you quoted relates to the current toolbar and when users dont find a suitable button in it, they go to the menu to get the functionality they need. Regarding your reply, users who never changed their toolbar would likely not change the new set, but they have the ability to change it if they choose, just like they currently have with the current set. You have stated previously, I think it's up to the user to decide which button he needs and which he doesn't. and this choice isnt being taken from the user with the new set. prepare to see useless bug reports about button is missing (which is not) etc. etc. Of course a number of users will complain about any change that is made, this always happens. I had a bug report that a keyboard user was no longer able to navigate the Character dialog as he used to with a previous version [bug 80612]: ... but what I used to be able to do doesn't work anymore, namely press Tab three times to get to Effects and then press down to get to small caps: that window doesn't get focus. With the ability for them to customize the toolbars, they can revert the changes they wish to revert. Ultimately, you cant please everyone but the changes are being made to benefit the majority of users. There must have been people who complained when the toolbars were last changed when OOo 2.0 was released. You even have users who prefer toolbars and menus over the ribbon UI, which is why you have addons that bring back this functionality. ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/ -- *Joel Madero* LibreOffice QA Volunteer jmadero@gmail.com ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] Windows Mobile Needed
Hi All, Anyone with Windows Mobile installed? https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50090list_id=450303 Best, joel -- *Joel Madero* LibreOffice QA Volunteer jmadero@gmail.com ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Testing for bug 81592: Bad Quality/Rendering of EPS graphics in LO 4.2 and 4.3 (regression)
Hi Gerry, If you're running Linux do you mind trying to bibisect the issue. I can walk you through the steps or you can read them here: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/HowToBibisect It helps a lot to get us closer to a solution. Best, Joel Best, Joel On 07/27/2014 09:17 AM, Gerry T. wrote: Dear all, LibreOffice is facing a regression with regards to the quality/rendering of EPS graphics in LO 4.24.3 (https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=81592). While the rendering quality of EPS in LO 4.0/4.1 was 'production quality', the rendering in 4.2 4.3 regressed and is unusable for publishing. The issue exists in rendering on screen, printing, PDF export as well as with existing documents or newly inserted EPS graphics. From my viewpoint, it is a terrible bug, because the graphics of statistical software (Stata, SPSS) always showed best quality when exported as EPS and inserted in LibreOffice. All existing documents and prepared EPS graphics are not really usable anymore on 4.2.x and later. Hence, I am stuck with LO 4.1.x which is EOL and less performant and stable (and is missing a few important features) than 4.2.x and 4.3.x. Hence, I seriously hope that this bug can be fixed for the last version of the 4.2 line, which is version 4.2.7. I approach the QA list for this, because the bug has been tested and confirmed so far only on Ubuntu 12.04 and Ubuntu 13.04 and I would like to kindly ask you to perform tests on EPS quality with new distribution versions, such as Ubuntu 14.04, 14.10Beta as well as Fedora, Debian or others. For the generation of the EPS representation in LibreOffice, the library /pstoedit/ is used and it is possible that newer versions of pstoedit give better output. I would be glad if you could try to reproduce the bug following the steps in the bug description. Please also try the pstoedit command and instructions as given by Caolan in comment 4. I hope that someone finds a solution for this regression bug. Thanks a lot, Gerry ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/ ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] RC4 needed
Well aware of this one. Thanks for pointing it out. Best, Joel On 07/23/2014 06:04 PM, Tommy wrote: Hi, I think we cannot ship 4.3.0 out with this bug unfixed. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=81511 are the developers aware of this? are we gonna delay the 4.3.0 release adding an exceptional RC4? ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [libreoffice-users] Bug Squashing Session in 90 Minutes
Yeah bug count is currently sitting at 742 which is the lowest it has been in for over 2 years. With a push this week I think we can drop it to 700 :) Maybe the 500 goal wasn't so outlandish after all Best, Joel On 07/22/2014 08:12 AM, Tommy wrote: On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 20:06:01 +0200, Tommy ba...@quipo.it wrote: ... wow!!! count is 788 right now!!! not bad for a last minute thing!!! thumbs up. watch this chart!!! awesome!!! https://bugs.freedesktop.org/reports.cgi?product=LibreOfficedatasets=UNCONFIRMEDdatasets=NEEDINFO ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/ ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] What if a bug can not be reproduced with newer version?
Hi Aleksandr, What Bjoern said but keep in mind sometimes users aren't happy with this. If a user is requesting a backport to a currently supported version, it's up to QA to decide if it's worth the hassle of finding out the commit that fixed it, poking the developer, and then getting them to backport it (and of course they can always say no). So don't be offended if you say this works fine in 4.3.0.3 rc, you can expect to see a fix in 4.3 release and they come back with this isn't acceptable, please get the fix in 4.2. -- happens quite frequently. Also when you close a bug as WORKSFORME always let the user know what version it works in, suggest they confirm that it works (even in a prerelease) and let them know if they can reproduce on that version or a newer version to put the bug back into UNCONFIRMED (not REOPENED). Thanks for your help! Best, Joel On 07/21/2014 03:57 AM, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote: Hi, On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 02:14:52PM +0400, Aleksandr P wrote: What is current QA-team position? If you know why this bug is fixed (as in a developer said: this commit should fix that or used the bug id in a commit message) its RESOLVED/FIXED. If you cannot reproduce the bug anymore but could do so in an earlier version and you have no insight on what fixed this, its WORKSFORME. If you cant reproduce it in a current release without knowing if it was reproducable in earlier releases, use NEEDINFO or INVALID as appropriate. Best, Bjoern ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/ ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] Bug Squashing Session in 90 Minutes
Hi All, QA is doing a bug squashing session (confirming/closing bugs) in 90 minutes. Feel free to jump in if you have a spare 10 minutes. http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=libreoffice-qa We've seen some great progress this past week or so and we're on the border of being the lowest unconfirmed bug count that we've had in over two years. Hope to see some of you in the room. Best, Joel ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] Second Opinion Needed
I have closed this bug twice as NOTABUG but the user does not agree so requesting second opinion: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=81627 Thanks Best, Joel ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Internal Updater
Hi All, I know we've discussed this already a few times - both within ESC and within the QA call but I wanted to get a better sense of what is needed to move forward with getting it fixed. FWIW I've closed 3 bugs this at least tangentially related to the subject. So - from what I understand the entire updater is just broken, when you get a notification that there is a new version you click it and it just takes you to the website where additional clicks are needed to download, and then more to install. QA has discussed this a few times and generally I think we've come up with a roadmap of what would be ideal but I know that it will require others to implement so I'm not trying to push this onto any developer just curious how (if at all) we can get it fixed. Phase I: Fix what is already there - currently you can go to Help - Check for Updates and there is a Install button that is always inactive. How much work would it take to at least fix that? If this will never get fixed (or be a long time) I think we should remove the button as it just reminds users about a broken feature that has been broken for a long time already. FWIW here I think we need to be clearer about what it means to check for update because it's based on what branch you are on Phase II: Add new options to allow a user to select the branch they want (fresh/stable/pre-release) and then another option to either download only or download and install which would automatically either download to a folder or download and install upon release. I think Phase II would be an amazing addition that would be kind of one of those big things we could run some PR about during a major release. Like I said - not pushing this on anyone, just curious where we stand as I see updater related bug reports and enhancement requests and QA has discussed it quite a few times as something that we feel need some love/attention. Best Regards, Joel ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] let's break the 900 Unconfirmed Bug Count
Closing in on 800 now :) Monday morningish my time (PST) we're going to be on the IRC channel doing a blitz to try to get it down another 100 or so. Feel free to join (everyone :) ). Would be great if we're down below 750 by the end of Monday. Best, Joel On 07/18/2014 08:44 AM, Tommy wrote: come on guys, we need just one more!!! :-) ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] Internal Updater
Hi All, I know we've discussed this already a few times - both within ESC and within the QA call but I wanted to get a better sense of what is needed to move forward with getting it fixed. FWIW I've closed 3 bugs this at least tangentially related to the subject. So - from what I understand the entire updater is just broken, when you get a notification that there is a new version you click it and it just takes you to the website where additional clicks are needed to download, and then more to install. QA has discussed this a few times and generally I think we've come up with a roadmap of what would be ideal but I know that it will require others to implement so I'm not trying to push this onto any developer just curious how (if at all) we can get it fixed. Phase I: Fix what is already there - currently you can go to Help - Check for Updates and there is a Install button that is always inactive. How much work would it take to at least fix that? If this will never get fixed (or be a long time) I think we should remove the button as it just reminds users about a broken feature that has been broken for a long time already. FWIW here I think we need to be clearer about what it means to check for update because it's based on what branch you are on Phase II: Add new options to allow a user to select the branch they want (fresh/stable/pre-release) and then another option to either download only or download and install which would automatically either download to a folder or download and install upon release. I think Phase II would be an amazing addition that would be kind of one of those big things we could run some PR about during a major release. Like I said - not pushing this on anyone, just curious where we stand as I see updater related bug reports and enhancement requests and QA has discussed it quite a few times as something that we feel need some love/attention. Best Regards, Joel ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bugzilla Whiteboard: Let's use wimpyCaps consistently
Hi all, At the QA meeting today we discussed the importance of consistency in the tags that we use in the Whiteboard on our bug reports. We decided that to make things simple for both old and new contributors, it would be best for QA to use 'wimpyCaps' for all of our tags. . Thoughts? Thanks, --R sounds good to me. I have a question... why the whiteboard has no drop down list for tags like the keywords field has? to keep the thing consistent it would be easier to select items in a list where they are in the proper format Because that's how bugzilla was designed and we don't own the infra ;) At some point we'll revisit whiteboard/keyword after we move to our own bug tracker. Best, Joel ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bugzilla Whiteboard: Let's use wimpyCaps consistently
Hi all, At the QA meeting today we discussed the importance of consistency in the tags that we use in the Whiteboard on our bug reports. We decided that to make things simple for both old and new contributors, it would be best for QA to use 'wimpyCaps' for all of our tags. . Thoughts? Thanks, --R sounds good to me. I have a question... why the whiteboard has no drop down list for tags like the keywords field has? to keep the thing consistent it would be easier to select items in a list where they are in the proper format Because that's how bugzilla was designed and we don't own the infra ;) At some point we'll revisit whiteboard/keyword after we move to our own bug tracker. Best, Joel ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [tdf-discuss] Intervention
I also replied to this off list. We are consistent and that's good ;) Ultimately, we're not going to change our workflow. It's up to a user to report with clear steps and a simple test document - else it's just a waste of our time. Glad we all think alike :-D Best, Joel On 07/14/2014 05:38 PM, Jay Philips wrote: Hi All, I have found that asking for a document is the best way to get closest to what the user is experiencing and what they are writing the bug for. If they report the bug on windows, i load up windows to confirm it and then also check if its on linux as well. Sometimes the steps to reproduce are easy enough to follow, but not every one of us are experts in the bugs we triage, so having an example file to begin the process of triaging saves quite alot of time. Users i've been dealing with have been quite happy to provide an example file, while a very few have asked that the file be kept confidential. Here is an example bug with steps to reproduce i triaged today [81292]. Problem description: I have a table first column alpha-numeric,crashes when sorting is ask. Steps to reproduce: 1. Load table, 2. select table 3. sort Current behavior: crash Expected behavior: alpha-numeric sorting From this example, should i waste time that i could be spending triaging other bugs to create a table full of values in order to sort the table. It could be possible that some small feature within the table he is sorting is causing the crash, that i could never reproduce because i dont have his file. In the user's most recent comment, he states that if he deletes the text from the last column, it wont crash. No way i could reproduce such a thing if i created an example file myself. I just submitted a bug today [81351] that crashes calc from as early as 3.6, simply by undo-ing a sort. It is possible that this may not have happened with another file, so i submitted the one i was working on, in order to speed up triaging and hopefully fixing. We have ~1k bugs to still triage and the quicker we are able to triage a bug, the faster we can confirm/close it and move on to the next one. Just my two cents. ;) Regards, Jay Philips On 07/15/2014 01:48 AM, bfoman wrote: Hi! From my experience asking for an example file is the best way to triage for following reasons: - saves time - you can download the attachment and check it in different builds right away - important with current backlog in Unconfirmed bugs - reproducible case - sometimes when you follow the STRs and create document from scratch the bug can be gone. Users' files can have their history - be created in different build, envs, corrupted etc. So asking for a file is a best way to receive verified test case. - involve the reporter - some people tend to use Bugzilla as file and forget system. Needinfo stats tell a story... Bug reports with attachments are more interesting than those without them. Some reporters do even screencasts or special STR graphics to help the triagers. IMHO there is no need to panic that most triagers ask for them. Overall I think this is a good policy and reporters should be educated how good bug report should look like. If a reporter cannot spend few minutes to attach a file or make a confidential one into a public document (by search and replace strings - if that makes bug still reproducible), then how can he demand a fix? This cannot be made without a reproducible test case. BTW: Mr Manciot is active in Wireshark Bugzilla, so should be accustomed that good bug report needs attachment. LO needs users' files as much as Wireshark example frame captures... Best regards. P.S. As for bugs closed as Invalid or Worksforme - there are defined QA documents which describe how this process should look like. See https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/BugTriage or https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/BugReport. Most triagers respect them, but those rules are, well, more guidance than a strict policy. LibreOffice is powered by a team of volunteers, every bug is confirmed (triaged) by human beings who mostly give their time for free. Some people see things from different perspective and don't like to babysit stagnant issues. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Re-tdf-discuss-Intervention-tp4115537p4115583.html Sent from the QA mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/ ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa
Whiteboard Consistency
Hi All, Including dev list on this because I know developers are using the whiteboard status' to do queries so I wanted to give you all the chance to voice opinions. Currently we are not consistent with whiteboard status' and I'd like to update these so that we are. There are two blaring examples: 1. Capitals - we use CamelCase when there is more than one word but when there is one (ex. bibisected) it's in lower case. Not a huge deal but if there are no objections, I'd like to move forward with just using capitals to start a word (ex. Bibisected, Interoperability) - I don't think this will screw up searches on FDO. I won't be going back to fix all the old ones (at least not yet) but moving forward consistency is nice. 2. Filters - currently we're not terribly consistent here. I'd like to propose that everything move to Filter:XXX, this would replace rtf_filter for instance with Filter:rtf. I'd also like to do this for groups of filters (ex. Filters:ooxml). This way we can just have Filter:doc or Filter:ooxml or Filter:odt, or Filter:html. --Is there a similar filter that covers all of the doc/xls/etc...? Thoughts appreciated. I'll update the wiki when I get enough feedback to feel comfortable doing so :) Best, Joel ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Whiteboard Keyword - interoperability
Hey Jay, On 07/12/2014 04:49 PM, Jay Philips wrote: Hi All, Hope everyone is well. Well i've been adding the whiteboard keyword 'interoperability' to bug reports that relate to files that are not the native odf format, like html, wpd, rtf, doc, docx, etc. Is this correct or should it only be limited to MSO formats like doc, docx, and rtf. So my opinion here is that this is for the most common alternative to odf - which means just ooxml and doc files (not rtf). The benefit of this is that the list is limited to really the format that the vast majority of users are worried about so when we search for interoperability in bugzilla we aren't having this ridiculously long list that covers every single other case outside of odf filter. I can say that as a user I've never heard someone say interoperability and be referring to anything outside of the ooxml and doc/xls etc... extensions. My two cents - but I think we need to peg this down so that we are consistent :) Best, Joel P.S. For triagers that are putting in a lot of time it would be great to start using whiteboard status' more. Jay has been doing a great job in this department. I think in the future when we want to do more things (such as compiling a list of known compatibility issues with ooxml filter) that having the whiteboard status' will be tremendously beneficial. ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] Whiteboard Consistency
Hi All, Including dev list on this because I know developers are using the whiteboard status' to do queries so I wanted to give you all the chance to voice opinions. Currently we are not consistent with whiteboard status' and I'd like to update these so that we are. There are two blaring examples: 1. Capitals - we use CamelCase when there is more than one word but when there is one (ex. bibisected) it's in lower case. Not a huge deal but if there are no objections, I'd like to move forward with just using capitals to start a word (ex. Bibisected, Interoperability) - I don't think this will screw up searches on FDO. I won't be going back to fix all the old ones (at least not yet) but moving forward consistency is nice. 2. Filters - currently we're not terribly consistent here. I'd like to propose that everything move to Filter:XXX, this would replace rtf_filter for instance with Filter:rtf. I'd also like to do this for groups of filters (ex. Filters:ooxml). This way we can just have Filter:doc or Filter:ooxml or Filter:odt, or Filter:html. --Is there a similar filter that covers all of the doc/xls/etc...? Thoughts appreciated. I'll update the wiki when I get enough feedback to feel comfortable doing so :) Best, Joel ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] New Whiteboard Status - NeedQAAdvice
Hi All, Jay asked about this new status to parallel the NeedAdvice which is a call for developers to get involved. I went ahead and said +1 so it's added to the whiteboard wiki: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Bugzilla/Fields/Whiteboard/Advanced So my advice is for experienced QA members (feel free to self categorize yourself ;) ) to keep a lookout for these. For new QA members - feel free to use this (although try to use it sparingly ;)) if you just really aren't sure about where an UNCONFIRMED bug belongs. Thanks! Best, Joel ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] time to remove all 4.1.x RC versions
I believe we agreed to give it 6 months from EOL to give time for transition. I could be wrong though ;) Best, Joel On 07/09/2014 01:43 PM, Tommy wrote: as all of you should know, 4.1.x reached end of life few months ago I thinks it's time to remove all 4.1.x RC versions from bugzilla version dropdown menu and leave just the final releases like it has already been done in previous dead branches ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] 4.3.0 new features and communication
On 07/01/2014 06:27 AM, Sophie wrote: Hi Joel, Robinson, In order to prepare the communication on the 4.3.0 release, is there some areas that are not stable enough, or where some bugs remain problematics and should be known by the marketing team? Monitoring the MAB didn't give me this impression, but I prefer to have your opinion :) As far as I know there are none. I'll poke bugzilla tonight to see what I can find out. Jay might have some feedback here also (Jay thoughts? Any bugs that indicate that there is an area of 4.3 that is not stable enough or bugs so problematic that we need marketing involved?). Thanks Sophie for tackling this :) Best, Joel ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] fdo#80638 Incorrect SUM with decimal numbers
Hi All, On 06/30/2014 01:49 PM, Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote: Hi, Le 30/06/2014 02:13, m.a.riosv a écrit : Hi, maybe could be of interest comments #4 and #6 of Kohei in bug MOD shows not existing small remainder with calculated Dividend https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50299#c4 Indeed, but in some particular cases, rounding errors may have disastrous effects. For example, again on MOD() function: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80732 Rounding errors are acceptable if they remain (very) small. If they are not, something should be done. Another very clear case is the following: - type 0.1 in A1 - in A2 type =A1*11-1 - propagate the formula to A30 Enjoy ;-) This is indeed well known and Kohei has explained why it happens (quite a few times). The logic is beyond my comprehension but I trust his judgment 110% and he has said it is really unfixable. I believe we have closed at least 5 similar bugs in the past year. Best, Joel ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] US Google + Page
Don't forget to join to keep up to date with US based events! https://plus.google.com/communities/111758039218283143648 Best, Joel ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Most infamous NeedInfo bugs?
NeedInfo or NeedDevEval? Best, Joel On 06/25/2014 10:10 AM, Robinson Tryon wrote: Hi guys, What NeedInfo bugs[1] do you hate (or love) the most? I'll bring up a handful of bugs during the ESC call tomorrow, so let me know which ones are most deserving of developer eyeballs. Thanks, --R [1] There are currently 32 NeedInfo bugs: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstrquery_format=advancedstatus_whiteboard=NeedAdvicebug_status=UNCONFIRMEDbug_status=NEWbug_status=ASSIGNEDbug_status=REOPENEDproduct=LibreOfficelist_id=438126 ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] Bug Hunting Session - Join Chat Now to Help Find Bugs in 4.3 RC :)
Hi All, We have about 15-25 people in the room, would be great if we saw some more over the weekend. To join just click the link below: http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=libreoffice-qa Best, Joel ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Unconfirmed Bugs that Need Developer Input
Hi All, Our NeedAdvice list is growing a bit. These are bugs that QA just hasn't been able to confirm for one reason or another. Some have comments that have pointers to what some QA members think might be going on, others can't be confirmed but there are debug logs from the original reporter. Some of them seem a bit nasty: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?list_id=435864status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstrquery_format=advancedstatus_whiteboard=NeedAdvicebug_status=UNCONFIRMED Help appreciated as always. Best, Joel ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] LibreOffice Bugzilla: Steps towards FDO migration
Hi All, Top posting because we still need a time to meet to do the below things. @Norbert - not sure how much of your time will be needed but I think we'll at least need you around for the beginning part before we are able to move forward with stress testing and what not. It's looking like our mutual availability is becoming a bit rough but my schedule: June 27-29 unavailable July 3 - July 10 unavailable Else: Monday and Wednesdays are good as well as weekends. Let's try to get some time to meet up and make the final push(es) to our own bugzilla. Thanks again! Best, Joel Hi all, I'd like to thank Norbert for all of his hard work on the Bugzilla migration process. Many of us have been rather busy over the last few weeks, so it would be great if we could touch base again and determine what todo items are left before migration can start. I'd be happy to help coordinate a time for a call or an IRC chat in the next week, if people think that would be useful. If people prefer conversing over email, we can just continue the coordination in this thread. Off the top of my head, here are a few of our todo items: - Joel will help to coordinate some stress-testing of our Bugzilla test install - Norbert will be adding a clean copy of Bugzilla to gerrit so that we can start to tweak various cosmetic pieces, CSS, information on the password-reset page, etc. - Tollef needs to implement the redirecting code to forward our old bug urls to the new ones (already done?) - We need to notify all of our bugtracker users ahead of the planned migration (this can actually be a great opportunity to communicate/reconnect with them) This is just the start of the list -- feel free to reply and include items necessary for the migration[1] Best, --R [1] i.e. please don't add new feature requests ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [Impress] Longstanding bug with subscript and line spacing
Please report it to the bug tracker. http://bugs.freedesktop.org/ Thanks. Best, Joel On 06/17/2014 05:46 AM, Илья Найдов wrote: Create new text field Enter some text in it to make it several lines Make some letters in this text subscript Result: Uneven line spacing in the paragraph... It has been fixed in Writer some time ago, but Impress still shows such behavior. -- С уважением, / Best regards, Кугуар Элиот / Eliot the Cougar Илья А. Найдов / Ilya A Naydov ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/ ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] How to set the component in a bug report
Hey Marina, Hi all, I tested the bugs 80139 and 80140. In the report they are related to Impress but I can confirm the same behavior in Draw. How can I correctly set the component field? The bugs are related to the spellchecker and maybe Linguistic is the right component. Calc and Draw aren't affected. So because it affects more than one component it can be set to LibreOffice for component and in your comment explain what components are affected. Thanks! Best, Joel ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Whiteboard Status'
On 06/17/2014 02:46 AM, Michael Stahl wrote: On 16/06/14 23:39, Joel Madero wrote: *Status* *Question* complextest Is this useful? If so – when should we use it? unoapitest We have “uno” is that sufficient? these two are very similar, maybe we could combine them as junittest? Hm - Bjoern seemed to like them separate. For now we'll keep separate but I'll make a note of maybe combining. although actually i'd like to limit dataloss to ODF documents only, where this really is not supposed to happen - if it's some other format it's more like a missing feature We'll discuss on call tomorrow. . experimentalEnabled Is this useful? a little... it lets us de-prioritize bugs that happen in features that are known to be broken anyway. +1 odf Suggestion to change to “extension:ODF” – see previous email this has nothing to do with extensions, but with file formats; in particular ODF which is the default format and the one where we have to care the most about interoperability issues with other office suites (and also older versions of LO), so a short and sweet keyword is really needed. Yes I said the wrong word - maybe filter:ODT, filter:DOCX, filter:RTF is best. odf_validation Who uses this? How do we know it's “validation” is it for developers only? people have filed bugs about LO producing ODF documents that ODF validators find objectionable. +1 i've got questions too: ConfirmedRegression Description: Is used if a bug is confirmed to be a regression. why do we need this, given that we have a regression keyword? this is a pointless alias... developers don't search for it, the ESC bug-stats script doesn't know about it... fortunately currently only 2 bugs have it. Moving to not in use - agreed regression keyword is sufficient. Best, Joel ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Whiteboard Status'
On 06/17/2014 02:46 AM, Michael Stahl wrote: On 16/06/14 23:39, Joel Madero wrote: *Status* *Question* complextest Is this useful? If so – when should we use it? unoapitest We have “uno” is that sufficient? these two are very similar, maybe we could combine them as junittest? Hm - Bjoern seemed to like them separate. For now we'll keep separate but I'll make a note of maybe combining. although actually i'd like to limit dataloss to ODF documents only, where this really is not supposed to happen - if it's some other format it's more like a missing feature We'll discuss on call tomorrow. . experimentalEnabled Is this useful? a little... it lets us de-prioritize bugs that happen in features that are known to be broken anyway. +1 odf Suggestion to change to “extension:ODF” – see previous email this has nothing to do with extensions, but with file formats; in particular ODF which is the default format and the one where we have to care the most about interoperability issues with other office suites (and also older versions of LO), so a short and sweet keyword is really needed. Yes I said the wrong word - maybe filter:ODT, filter:DOCX, filter:RTF is best. odf_validation Who uses this? How do we know it's “validation” is it for developers only? people have filed bugs about LO producing ODF documents that ODF validators find objectionable. +1 i've got questions too: ConfirmedRegression Description: Is used if a bug is confirmed to be a regression. why do we need this, given that we have a regression keyword? this is a pointless alias... developers don't search for it, the ESC bug-stats script doesn't know about it... fortunately currently only 2 bugs have it. Moving to not in use - agreed regression keyword is sufficient. Best, Joel ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
4.3 RC Bug Hunting Session
Hi All! Well after our incredible showing with Beta 1 we're going a second round of bug hunting against 4.3 Release Candidate 1 to try to catch any lingering nasty regressions before release. Literally anyone can help and we encourage everyone to jump into the QA chat and see what it's all about. To join just download and install the RC when it becomes available: http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/ Then . . . just run it, play around with it, do what you normally do with LibreOffice. If something terrible happens like a crash or data loss - report it over at our bug tracker. That easy! Chat: http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=libreoffice-qa Wiki: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugHunting_Session_4.3.0_RC1 Blog(s) on last bug hunting session: https://joelmadero.wordpress.com/ Last one we saw about 15 new faces in our chat, if we could see another 15 this round it would be fantastic. Thanks all in advance! Best, Joel ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Whiteboard Status'
Hi All, I've put quite a bit of time updating the wiki site after pulling FDO and viewing all of the whiteboard status' have been used. It isn't complete (needs organized and cleaned a bit more) but it's located here:https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Bugzilla/Fields/Whiteboard/Advanced Below is a table with some questions I have - feel free to comment on one or all and I will either not add them to the wiki or add them with a description. Thanks! *Status**Question* compatibility How is this different from interoperability? complextest Is this useful? If so -- when should we use it? conversion Conversion of what? crash Is this useful vs. just making sure the title has crash in it? datalossFor me priority means this -- Major/Critical plus a useful comment. Is someone tracking these to the point that we should start encouraging this status more? EDITING Just not sure what this means and how it is useful experimentalEnabled Is this useful? feature Why not just use enhancement? Are they the same? fixed Status -- RESOLVED ? FIXED? fixing Assigned? gsocWho is using this? Can QA suggest gsoc bugs/enhancements? hfmuc2012 No clue what this is impasse No clue what this is lhm-limux No clue what this is NoLocSite: No clue what this is numberformatIs anyone tracking these that we need to keep it? odf Suggestion to change to extension:ODF -- see previous email odf_validation Who uses this? How do we know it's validation is it for developers only? openofficebug Another one -- do we track this for something? Version ineritedFromOOo seems to take care of this usabillity Isn't almost every bug about usability? TopicDebug We have SkillDebug any reason to have it as a topic also? TopicInfra We have SkillInfra any reason to have it as a topic also? TopicWebComponent WWW? Redmine? UI We have SkillUI any reason to have it as a topic also? unoapitest We have uno is that sufficient? Best, Joel ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
[Libreoffice-qa] 4.3 RC Bug Hunting Session
Hi All! Well after our incredible showing with Beta 1 we're going a second round of bug hunting against 4.3 Release Candidate 1 to try to catch any lingering nasty regressions before release. Literally anyone can help and we encourage everyone to jump into the QA chat and see what it's all about. To join just download and install the RC when it becomes available: http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/ Then . . . just run it, play around with it, do what you normally do with LibreOffice. If something terrible happens like a crash or data loss - report it over at our bug tracker. That easy! Chat: http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=libreoffice-qa Wiki: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugHunting_Session_4.3.0_RC1 Blog(s) on last bug hunting session: https://joelmadero.wordpress.com/ Last one we saw about 15 new faces in our chat, if we could see another 15 this round it would be fantastic. Thanks all in advance! Best, Joel ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] Extensions with Whiteboard status
Hi All, I am still cleaning this whiteboard status page and have found quite a few that I have no clue how they ever made it on the list and a few that I have suggestions to change. The first is described below: We have just a few extensions that somehow got special treatment to have whiteboard status (rt, rtf_filter, pdf). I'm not sure why these got special priv. over other (probably more relevant) extensions such as docx, doc, or even odt, ods, etc . . . Suggestion: New whiteboard status extension:EXTENSION so we could have extension:pdf or extension:odt or extension:docx. This way we can track all bugs relating to any particular extension vs. just the priv. few that have gotten special treatment. Thoughts appreciated. Best, Joel P.S. CC'ed MStahl because I was told he may have some opinion here ;) If not - feel free to disregard :-D ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] Whiteboard Status'
Hi All, I've put quite a bit of time updating the wiki site after pulling FDO and viewing all of the whiteboard status' have been used. It isn't complete (needs organized and cleaned a bit more) but it's located here:https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Bugzilla/Fields/Whiteboard/Advanced Below is a table with some questions I have - feel free to comment on one or all and I will either not add them to the wiki or add them with a description. Thanks! *Status**Question* compatibility How is this different from interoperability? complextest Is this useful? If so -- when should we use it? conversion Conversion of what? crash Is this useful vs. just making sure the title has crash in it? datalossFor me priority means this -- Major/Critical plus a useful comment. Is someone tracking these to the point that we should start encouraging this status more? EDITING Just not sure what this means and how it is useful experimentalEnabled Is this useful? feature Why not just use enhancement? Are they the same? fixed Status -- RESOLVED ? FIXED? fixing Assigned? gsocWho is using this? Can QA suggest gsoc bugs/enhancements? hfmuc2012 No clue what this is impasse No clue what this is lhm-limux No clue what this is NoLocSite: No clue what this is numberformatIs anyone tracking these that we need to keep it? odf Suggestion to change to extension:ODF -- see previous email odf_validation Who uses this? How do we know it's validation is it for developers only? openofficebug Another one -- do we track this for something? Version ineritedFromOOo seems to take care of this usabillity Isn't almost every bug about usability? TopicDebug We have SkillDebug any reason to have it as a topic also? TopicInfra We have SkillInfra any reason to have it as a topic also? TopicWebComponent WWW? Redmine? UI We have SkillUI any reason to have it as a topic also? unoapitest We have uno is that sufficient? Best, Joel ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Whiteboard Status'
Hi! Having saved queries against crash/dataloss/perf etc. items gives bugs on your radar without the need of checking Major/Critical, Summary or comments. It is easier to be alarmed and IMHO such Whiteboard items could be used more. Then my follow up question to dataloss is what do we want to consider dataloss - is formatting loss sufficient? Let's say justified center is lost - is that data loss? Or what about if conditional formatting is lost? Thanks for the feedback bfoman - always appreciated. Best, Joel ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] 71 Unconfirmed Crashers
Hi All, There are currently 71 bugs that have something about crashing in the title. If we could tackle these it would be great. For useful links see: Organized by OS: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/BugTriage#Table_By_Platform_.28OS.29 Organized by Component: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/BugTriage#Table_By_Component Remember that crashers deserve to at least by at Major - High, if the bug will likely affect many many users mark as critical - high and of course if appropriate Highest and add to MAB list. Thanks for the hard work everyone. Best, Joel ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] Second Recommended Triage Order Table
I made a second table for a suggested triage order that orders by component instead of platform. https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/BugTriage#Table_By_Component Couple notes: Unconfirmed: Blockers: 0 Crasher: 70 PossibleRegression: 32 Keyword Regression: 10 Critical: 2 Major: 69 Total: 183 These 183 are the most serious so if you have time please help us knock them down :-D If something is a confirmed regression please but bibisectrequest on the whiteboard if it affects OSX or Linux. Thanks! Best, Joel ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Developers in the US July 26-27?
Hi All, We're looking for a couple developers to be at our US hackfest at the end of July. Anyone going to be around? Specifically on the east coast? Best, Joel ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
[Libreoffice-qa] Script/Launcher for Bibisect
Hi All, I'm a bit tired of having to cd into a bibisect folder and do all the initial commands so I've created a launcher/script to do the first stuff but hitting a big of a snag. Script below: #!/bin/sh cd /home/joel/Downloads/bibisect-43all sleep 5 git checkout . sleep 10 git bisect start latest oldest sleep 20 ./opt/program/soffice sleep 5 . $HOME/mycd the launcher launches terminal and does everything until the last step . $HOME/mycd which is to actually cd into my bibisect folder so I can do git bisect good/bad/skip. I know you can't just use cd with a script so I followed instructions and mycd is just a simple file containing: cd /home/joel/Downloads/bibisect-43all Thoughts appreciated - trying to automate some of these repetitive steps :-D If I can get it to work I'll add to bibisect page on how to create it if others are interested. Best, Joel ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] New Whiteboard Statuses
Hey Xisco, Hello all, does it make sense to include another status for the regression issues where the problematic commit has been identified ? I'm asking it because yesterday I spent some time on this task and I could chase down two regressions, one of them made by a Collabora developer ( I've already sent him an email ) and the other by a merged AOO commit. So in general never send a personal email to a developer unless you've been told that this is okay by the developer themselves. Our developers gets hundreds of emails per day and adding more just becomes problematic. It is sufficient to put the bibisect on the bug, say you think it might be a particular commit and if the bug is very serious (crashers/data loss) to add it to the most annoying bug list. This is sufficient to highlight the bug. Personal emails pointing fingers can irk some of our developers so best to just let them track the bug tracker the way that they see fit. All the best, Joel ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] New Whiteboard Statuses
On 06/05/2014 05:36 AM, Joren DC wrote: Hi, Jay Philips schreef op 5/06/2014 4:45: I think it might be a good idea to include the following whiteboard keywords - HasDebug or HasBacktrace HasStrace - When the bug reporter or commenter has included the backtrace or strace output, so devs can easily see this list I didn't invent it, but we have a keyword with 'have-backtrace' for this purpose. Ah I didn't see that. We should change it to camel case to be consistent. HaveBacktrace. Will include on whiteboard page. Best, Joel ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] New Whiteboard Statuses
Crap I see ;) Thanks - we can talk about consistency between keyword and whiteboard once we actually get our own instance of bugzilla :) Best, Joel On 06/05/2014 08:29 AM, Joren DC wrote: Joel Madero schreef op 5/06/2014 17:26: Ah I didn't see that. We should change it to camel case to be consistent. HaveBacktrace. Will include on whiteboard page. Just to be sure: have-backtrace is a keyword and our key words are not camel-cased ;-). We may want to consider to make it more consistent if we have our own bugzilla instance :-)? Cheers, Joren ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/ ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] New Whiteboard Statuses
On 06/05/2014 05:36 AM, Joren DC wrote: Hi, Jay Philips schreef op 5/06/2014 4:45: I think it might be a good idea to include the following whiteboard keywords - HasDebug or HasBacktrace HasStrace - When the bug reporter or commenter has included the backtrace or strace output, so devs can easily see this list I didn't invent it, but we have a keyword with 'have-backtrace' for this purpose. Nevermind - this is a keyword not a whiteboard status so it is indeed have-backtrace which applies to debug, backtrace, strace :) Best, Joel ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] RE LibreOffice
Hi Brian, Sorry for the long delay - not sure if someone else already responded. Chrome is giving a false positive - it's a bug on there side. You can force the download (or download using a different browser) and everything will work fine. Best, Joel P.S. Thanks so much for the donation - is not a requirement to use LibreOffice but it is definitely appreciated and helps us continue to grow our fantastic product. On 05/09/2014 10:36 AM, Quizman wrote: Yes, I wish to subscribe and have given a donation via PayPal. However, when downloaded, Chrome, my web browser has BLOCKED the download stating this is malicious software. Please advise. Kind regards Brian Crane (Quizman) My eBook Confessions of a Quiz Show Writer available at: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Confessions-Quiz-Show-Writer-ebook/dp/B007RD4SXS Also see my BLOG: http://quizsupplies.blogspot.co.uk/ ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/ ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] New QA Easy Hack Task - Determine if bug was inherited from OOo
Hi All, We have a new easy hack available for people wanting to get more involved - very simple task, instructions on the bug report. Thanks in advance! https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=79650 All the best, Joel ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] LibreOffice Bugzilla: Steps towards FDO migration
On 05/22/2014 08:24 AM, Robinson Tryon wrote: Hi all, I'd like to thank Norbert for all of his hard work on the Bugzilla migration process. Many of us have been rather busy over the last few weeks, so it would be great if we could touch base again and determine what todo items are left before migration can start. +1 - huge thank you to both you (Robinson) and Norbert for taking lead here. I'd be happy to help coordinate a time for a call or an IRC chat in the next week, if people think that would be useful. If people prefer conversing over email, we can just continue the coordination in this thread. I'm available Monday/Wednesday most weeks. Next Wednesday I'm unavailable after 12:30 (PST). Since we're all in the US I can also easily do evenings (past 5:30pm) and of course weekends. So an example for next week: Monday - I can squeeze in any time Tuesday - past 5:30pm Wednesday - BoD call in morning, can do after that (10am) to 12:30pm but it has to be done at 12:30 as I have to be at court by 1:30 :) Thursday - past 5:30pm Friday - past 5:30pm Saturday - prefer earlier (let's say 9am - noon) Sunday - ditto for same as Sat. So that's just an example for next week. Best, Joel ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] New Whiteboard Statuses
On 06/04/2014 07:45 PM, Jay Philips wrote: Hi All, I think it might be a good idea to include the following whiteboard keywords - HasDebug or HasBacktrace HasStrace - When the bug reporter or commenter has included the backtrace or strace output, so devs can easily see this list I like all of these ConfirmedCrashHalt or ConfirmedCrash ConfirmedHalt- similar to ConfirmedRegression, this would be used by the QA team to assign that they have confirmed the crash or halt of the UI, and we dont have to rely on search for random keywords to pull up an already vetted list of results Don't like these as much - a good bug title is sufficient to say crash IMHO and a triager can edit a title easy. WinOnly, LinOnly MacOnly - MacOnly would be very helpful to me so i can filter out the reports that i've confirmed dont happen on windows and linux, and priority can be given to these bugs by the QA team who have macs as someone already from the QA team has already confirmed its existence to be limited to mac, and also because 'Mac OS X (All)' doesn't indicate that it wont also happen on other OSes - fdo#79460 I think we should just use the OS field for this. Already we have way too many whiteboard status'. If we do this then OS field becomes useless and redundant. LanguageSpecific:jp - a means of filtering reports that can only be properly tested by an individuals who know a particular language and i think it would be useful when we expand the bug submission beyond just english. - fdo#77489 +1 Best, Joel ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] new mab4.4 page and last (die hard) mab4.1
Tommy - I moved that one - leaving the pleasure of closing 4.1 mab to you :) Best, Joel P.S. Thanks for your incredible work On 06/04/2014 10:04 PM, Andras Timar wrote: Hi, On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 6:34 AM, Tommy ba...@quipo.it wrote: hi QA guys, I've created a new mab4.4 page at https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=79641 moreover I ask confirmation of the last surviving mab4.1 at https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59613 so we can finally close that meta-issue Yes, fdo#59613 is reproducible in 4.2 builds. It is very easy to check it, you don't need RTL operating system or RTL UI language. Just set the SAL_RTL_ENABLED environment variable before staring libreoffice. Windows: start cmd, the command prompt in the 'program' directory of LibreOffice. set SAL_RTL_ENABLED=1 soffice Linux: $ SAL_RTL_ENABLED=1 /path/to/libreoffice/program/soffice You'll have an English RTL UI. Best regards, Andras ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/ ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] Suggested Triage Order
Hi All, I've created a table that has a suggested triage order. Note that this is only a suggested order (you're free to triage in whatever order you prefer). The table has useful links and some comments :) https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/BugTriage#Suggested_Triage_Order The point of the table is to help identify and triage the worst bugs first as well as to give a bit of guidance to new triagers :) All the best, Joel ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Presentation Video Bug - Need Dev/QA Feedback
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56847 We've had an extensive discussion on the QA channel about the above MAB and we're looking for guidance. Our findings are quite inconsistent - we're testing on multiple platforms and some are seeing as a regression (comment 61), but I tested on 3.3 and see the same result with avi files. Additionally, with 3.5 when you try to insert avi files a dialog comes up saying that the format is not supported - that dialog no longer comes up. Then Jay has had success by installing some additional codecs in Xubuntu but he gave me the list of packages he installed and I tried in Ubuntu and did not have success. So QA has some questions: 1. Should we close this particular bug as INVALID because it's a disaster with comments and lots of different issues being posted? 2. Is this our bug at all? 3. Should we open individual bugs for each format that does not work? 4. Are there particular codecs that we should try to install? 5. Should we make a new bug report for each platform as there seems to be difference between platforms (for instance no one has succeeded with OSX but Jay had success with Xubuntu) Thoughts appreciated, Joel ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
[Libreoffice-qa] Microsoft 2013 Needed for Bug 79292
Hi All, Can someone with MS2013 confirm this (not confirmable in 2007 or 2010). Thanks! https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=79292list_id=428177 Best, Joel ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] Windows Printing Bug Needs Confirmed
Hi All, Can someone take a look at this one: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=79194 Looks pretty nasty - if confirmed IMHO should be on mab4.3 list. Thanks! Joel ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] Bug Hunting Session Day #1
Hi All! Day one of our 4.3 bug hunting session was /*incredible*/. Some of the high notes were that our QA channel had 35 people in it when I woke up this morning (crazy!) and quite a few regressions have been discovered and bibisected which is exactly what we're trying to do. We saw about 10-15 new faces pop into the chat today and many of them caught bugs that I would have literally never found but were quite nasty. So this is a reminder please join us! We're having a good time and making great progress. *Chat: *http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=libreoffice-qa Hope to see more faces tomorrow :) Warm Regards, Joel ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] 4.3 Bug Hunting Weekend!
Hi All, Don't forget this weekend is our 4.3 bug hunting session! We really need as many people as possible testing 4.3 now so that developers can fix nasty regressions before release (which isn't too far away!). Please join us in the /_*chat*_/: http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=libreoffice-qa An experienced QA person should be around most of the weekend to help walk you through the steps. To download /_*latest daily build*_/ of 4.3 please go here: http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/master/ For /_*info on the bug hunting session*_/ see our wiki: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugHunting_Session_4.3.0#How_to_join *Again - we need testers for 4.3 as it is the _only_ way that we will find any regressions that need resolved before release. Please - if you have a spare hour this weekend, join the chat, say hello, and get involved :) *Warm Regards, Joel ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Add 4.3.0.beta1 to BZ
Hey Sophie! On 05/22/2014 08:17 AM, Sophie wrote: Hi all, Could someone add 4.3.0 beta 1 to BZ, thanks :) Done :) Best, Joel ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] 4.3 Bug Hunting Weekend!
On May 22, 2014 9:09 AM, Bjoern Michaelsen bjoern.michael...@canonical.com wrote: Hi Pedro, Joel, On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 09:02:09AM -0700, Pedro wrote: jmadero wrote To download /_*latest daily build*_/ of 4.3 please go here: http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/master/ ... wouldn't it make more sense that everybody is using the same build aka the official Beta1 instead of getting a build from some random Tinderbox? I tend to agree with Pedro here. People who have done a lot of testing will have various builds anyway, but for people trying out QA for the first time, the beta1 build is likely the best thing to get started. Indeed my mistake. Pedro - you are a big part of the team of course it's your business if I give bad info ;) Can we get the right link? I'm responding via phone. Thanks again! Joel ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] QA Regular Call
Hi All, We have moved our regular calls to every other week on Wednesday's at 1730 UTC. So next call: Wednesday, June 4th Time: 1730 As always we'll send out at least one reminder prior to the call and we encourage users and all contributors to join. The call is both by phone and video through google hangouts. Warm Regards, Joel ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] CRITICAL Bug needs Confirmed
Hi All, I was unable to reproduce this but we now have a couple users who are reporting that saving to .docx results in a loss of all data in comments (quite serious). Can someone try to reproduce: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75694 If you can reproduce it would be really nice to get a bibisect if possible and add to MAB4.2 Best, Joel ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] DOCX Test 5 Results
This is all fantastic Jay. A couple questions: (1) Are you searching for duplicates before reporting? Some of these (I'd hope many?) have already been reported. (2) For sample test documents - if you can create the most simple test case it makes life much much happier for our developers. If you provide a 20 page sample document and say page 15 has this problem they have to dig through a ton of xml crap to actually figure out where the problem is. All in all, fantastic work :) Best, Joel On 05/09/2014 07:20 PM, Jay Philips wrote: Hi All, I just wanted to share with you all the results of my latest extended .docx test. I have been able to refine my workflow to better test, document and report the compatibility issues, and was able to put in 13 bug reports yesterday. Also i noticed there is a weekly bug summary page and i'm at 1st place in bug reporting. :) file url: http://download.microsoft.com/documents/uk/partner/publicsector/DraftMicrosoftResponsetoGovernment.docx file contents: response letter, text table lists, 19 pages, 48Kb Results docx - page 14: table appears outside of right margin because cell padding and column widths [regression since 4.1] [reported 78227] - page 15 17: some numeric and bullet lists didnt retain character color [previously reported 77797] - page 17: space between bullet list bullet and text is incorrect [reported 78352] doc - perfect except for the bullet list between spacing --- export doc - page 14: table border color not retained [3.6 - 4.2, including 4.2.5, its fine in 4.3] [reported 78347] - numeric list characters on page 15 are correct, but bullet list bullets on page 17 are black export doc in word 2010 - page 15: numeric list bullet '2' shows in black - page 17: bullet list bullets are grey like the original docx export docx - page 15 17: numeric and bullet list characters are in black export docx in word 2010 - page 17: bullet list bullets are grey like the original docx export odt 1.1 - page 17: bullet list bullets in black and no indentation between it and following text [3.6 - 4.3] [reported 78351] export odt 1.2 odt 1.2 ext - same as original export odt 1.1 1.2 in word 2010 - page 14: table left position slightly outside of left margin - links on page 14, 15 17 appear in black without an underline instead of blue with underline[3.6 - 4.3] [reported 78514] - page 15: numeric list indentation is incorrect export rtf - paragraph and line spacing not opened correctly [4.0 to 4.2dev space increases, 4.3 spacing shrinks, 3.6 it was perfect] - font colors not opened correctly (fileopen problem only in 4.2) [previously reported 78313] - page 17: bullet list character not retained [reported 78492] - links with black instead of blue underline (fileopen problem) [3.6 - 4.3] [reported 78357] - table cell padding not retained [reported 78491] - page 15: number list indentation [reported 78495] export rtf in word 2010 - looked the same as LibO, except for the rtf filesave errors [table padding, number list indent, bullet character] - found double spacing issue [reported 78497] --- kingsoft doc - font styles (bold, size, spacing) not retained [previously reported 78143] kingsoft docx - page 15: numeric list numbers in incorrect color [previously reported 77797] kingsoft rtf - not openable in LibO 3.6 and 4.0 [previously reported 77861] - page 1: beginning of document starts of with multiple ';' characters [reported 78502] - page 14: links shown as Times New Roman 11pt superscript when they should be Calibri 11pt [reported 78504] - page 15: numeric list number character shown as '10!broken!!' rather than '1.', which causes indent and font issues (kingsoft partial problem) [reported 78506] --- word 2013 doc - perfect word 2013 docx strict - had problem with line spacing, table was crashed [reported 78508], extra space between bullet list bullet character and text word 2013 rtf - font color of numeric and bullet list characters are black word 2013 odt - links show up in dark blue [reported 78509], bullet list bullets in wrong location [reported 78510] word 2011 odt - links show up in dark blue and numeric bullet lists are indented more (ms office problem) Rating: C- for good display of original file, small problems with tables in .docx files, and significant problems with importing and exporting of rtf Hope everyone has a good weekend. ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems?
[Libreoffice-qa] Next QA Call
Hi All, As discussed last call, I am unavailable next Monday but will be available the following Monday. The other option is to move our call to Wed. next week. If we want to do Wed. a little earlier (maybe 2-3 hours earlier), we can do that. Please let me know what you prefer ASAP so we can gauge what's best. Also - a few months ago I sent out a message asking if we need a new doodle (for a new time completely for future calls) and did not receive any replies, I assumed that meant the current time was working for most if not every person. If this is not the case let me know and I'll start a doodle (not for the next call probably since it will be off schedule but for the following one after that (Week of June 2 - June 6) Best, Joel ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Website QA Suggestions, links to other languages
This kind of a suggestion should be on the redmine site not on QA mailing list. The email thread that I started was specific about suggestions that we discussed during the call. Apologies for the confusion. Best, Joel On 05/07/2014 08:44 AM, Harald Köster wrote: Hi all, at the moment on the LibreOffice home page there are no links to home pages in other languages. I think for a world wide project it should be a matter of course to provide such links, so that also users who are not familiar with English are able to find informations in their language fast. How it may look like, see: www.facebook.com www.twitter.com Best Harald ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] New Version (PreBibisect)
I have added PreBibisect to version field on FDO - if you try to bibisect a version and the regression shows up in the earliest commit in bibisect please set it to PreBibisect. Then if anyone is interested in going through these and testing them against the first release of LibreOffice that would be fantastic. My guess is quite a few of these are not regressions. http://downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/old/ Best, Joel ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] DOCX Test 4 Results
On future reports will you try to include your computer specs (most importantly your OS) :) Best, Joel On 05/05/2014 01:03 AM, Jay Philips wrote: Hi Joel, Its been done. :) Jay Philips On 05/05/2014 02:48 AM, Joel Madero wrote: Ah - okay new plan. CC me on every regression and put bibisectrequest in whiteboard. I'll do the bibisecting :) Best, Joel On 05/04/2014 02:02 PM, Jay Philips wrote: Hi Joel, I think i hit my first snag as i dont run 64-bit linux. :( Jay Philips On 05/04/2014 08:48 PM, Joel Madero wrote: Nice! Thanks for offering to try. First thing is to download the very large package (8.4 gigs) - https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/HowToBibisect#Versions You'll want the 42all version - you can download from either TDF or Canonical servers. Let me know if you need help and I'll try to do what I can. The wiki is pretty solid but sometimes I hit snags that require finagling. Best, Joel On 05/04/2014 02:52 AM, Jay Philips wrote: Hi, No i haven't bibisected before, but can give it a try. Jay Philips On 05/04/2014 06:51 AM, Joel Madero wrote: have you bibisected before? if not, are you willing to try? it helps tremendously for regressions. Best, Joel On 05/03/2014 11:30 AM, Jay Philips wrote: Hi Joel, I'm running on Linux. All the regressions i've found can be pulled from this list of my bug reports https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?f1=short_descemailreporter1=1list_id=420031o1=substringemailtype1=substringquery_format=advancedbug_status=UNCONFIRMEDbug_status=NEWbug_status=ASSIGNEDbug_status=REOPENEDbug_status=RESOLVEDbug_status=VERIFIEDbug_status=CLOSEDbug_status=NEEDINFObug_status=PLEASETESTemail1=philipz85%40hotmail.comv1=regressionproduct=LibreOffice Jay Philips On 05/03/2014 09:49 PM, Joel Madero wrote: Hey Jay, Are you running Windows or Linux? I'd like to get some bibisects of these if possible (the ones where you say it's a regression) Best, Joel On 05/02/2014 10:14 PM, Jay Philips wrote: Hi All, I just wanted to share with you all the results of my latest extended .docx test and hope its okay to do so here in the mailing list. file url: http://download.microsoft.com/documents/customerevidence/Files/71003670/Xiamen_Tungsten_Group_unifies_enterprise.docx file contents: chinese language, text and images, 6 pages, 230Kb Results * docx doc - paragraph spacing is off [reported] - * export doc, docx strict, docx trans, odt - perfect as same as input * export rtf - font name not retained [4.1 - 4.3] and regression in font color not retained [4.2 only] [reported] * exports in word 2010 - all look good except doc/docx have a few bullet points with text on the following line [reported] - * kingsoft doc export - using Sinsum rather than Microsoft Yahei, blue colored text appeared in green, image centered rather than being left aligned, and second image had text wrapping on when it should have been off [reported] * kingsoft docx export - paragraph spacing is off * kingsoft rtf export - font name not retained [4.1 - 4.3] and not openable in versions below 4.1 [reported] - * word 2013/2010 doc, docx trans, docx strict, rtf export - paragraph and line spacing is off * word 2013/2010 odt export - table type lines appeared on the page which are not visible in calligra words [reported] Rating: B as opening/saving rtf/doc had font and image problems, as well as problems with opening ms word odt file ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/ ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/ ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/ ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa
[Libreoffice-qa] Redmine Website QA Suggestions
Hi All, Per our discussion, here is a single thread where I think we should discuss suggestions to make the website clearer and then one of us (I'll volunteer if no one else does...) can go to redmine to offer the suggestion. This way we aren't offering contradictory suggestions. So the first question is for the default download page - are we generally agreed that stable should be the default? Best, Joel P.S. Note that ultimately marketing and infra will be the ones deciding, these will just be QA suggestions ;) ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
FDO Versions
Hi All, I've gone ahead and hidden most 3.6 pre release versions on FDO (kept 3.6.0.beta0 because this is the equivalent of before bibisect). Two questions: 1. Can I do the same for 4.0 or should I wait longer ? 2. Thoughts on adding a new version called PreBibisect and we can replace the 3.6.0..beta0 version with this - seems to be more accurate. I'll hold off a couple days to get feedback. Warm Regards, Joel ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
[Libreoffice-qa] FDO Versions
Hi All, I've gone ahead and hidden most 3.6 pre release versions on FDO (kept 3.6.0.beta0 because this is the equivalent of before bibisect). Two questions: 1. Can I do the same for 4.0 or should I wait longer ? 2. Thoughts on adding a new version called PreBibisect and we can replace the 3.6.0..beta0 version with this - seems to be more accurate. I'll hold off a couple days to get feedback. Warm Regards, Joel ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] DOCX Test 4 Results
Nice! Thanks for offering to try. First thing is to download the very large package (8.4 gigs) - https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/HowToBibisect#Versions You'll want the 42all version - you can download from either TDF or Canonical servers. Let me know if you need help and I'll try to do what I can. The wiki is pretty solid but sometimes I hit snags that require finagling. Best, Joel On 05/04/2014 02:52 AM, Jay Philips wrote: Hi, No i haven't bibisected before, but can give it a try. Jay Philips On 05/04/2014 06:51 AM, Joel Madero wrote: have you bibisected before? if not, are you willing to try? it helps tremendously for regressions. Best, Joel On 05/03/2014 11:30 AM, Jay Philips wrote: Hi Joel, I'm running on Linux. All the regressions i've found can be pulled from this list of my bug reports https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?f1=short_descemailreporter1=1list_id=420031o1=substringemailtype1=substringquery_format=advancedbug_status=UNCONFIRMEDbug_status=NEWbug_status=ASSIGNEDbug_status=REOPENEDbug_status=RESOLVEDbug_status=VERIFIEDbug_status=CLOSEDbug_status=NEEDINFObug_status=PLEASETESTemail1=philipz85%40hotmail.comv1=regressionproduct=LibreOffice Jay Philips On 05/03/2014 09:49 PM, Joel Madero wrote: Hey Jay, Are you running Windows or Linux? I'd like to get some bibisects of these if possible (the ones where you say it's a regression) Best, Joel On 05/02/2014 10:14 PM, Jay Philips wrote: Hi All, I just wanted to share with you all the results of my latest extended .docx test and hope its okay to do so here in the mailing list. file url: http://download.microsoft.com/documents/customerevidence/Files/71003670/Xiamen_Tungsten_Group_unifies_enterprise.docx file contents: chinese language, text and images, 6 pages, 230Kb Results * docx doc - paragraph spacing is off [reported] - * export doc, docx strict, docx trans, odt - perfect as same as input * export rtf - font name not retained [4.1 - 4.3] and regression in font color not retained [4.2 only] [reported] * exports in word 2010 - all look good except doc/docx have a few bullet points with text on the following line [reported] - * kingsoft doc export - using Sinsum rather than Microsoft Yahei, blue colored text appeared in green, image centered rather than being left aligned, and second image had text wrapping on when it should have been off [reported] * kingsoft docx export - paragraph spacing is off * kingsoft rtf export - font name not retained [4.1 - 4.3] and not openable in versions below 4.1 [reported] - * word 2013/2010 doc, docx trans, docx strict, rtf export - paragraph and line spacing is off * word 2013/2010 odt export - table type lines appeared on the page which are not visible in calligra words [reported] Rating: B as opening/saving rtf/doc had font and image problems, as well as problems with opening ms word odt file ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/ ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/ ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/ ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] FDO Versions
Added .1 but don't we have to keep .0 + master (since it includes master). I never understood how this worked (I think Rainer chose to do it this way). Thanks! Joel P.S. I'm around a lot more now - will be in the room/on the calls/in communication much more On 05/04/2014 09:52 AM, Florian Reisinger wrote: Hi Joel, We are still lacking 4.3 alpha1+ version :) Could you please add it :) [and hide alpha+ master] Am 04.05.2014 18:45, schrieb Joel Madero: Hi All, I've gone ahead and hidden most 3.6 pre release versions on FDO (kept 3.6.0.beta0 because this is the equivalent of before bibisect). Two questions: 1. Can I do the same for 4.0 or should I wait longer ? 2. Thoughts on adding a new version called PreBibisect and we can replace the 3.6.0..beta0 version with this - seems to be more accurate. I'll hold off a couple days to get feedback. Warm Regards, Joel ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/ ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] DOCX Test 4 Results
Ah - okay new plan. CC me on every regression and put bibisectrequest in whiteboard. I'll do the bibisecting :) Best, Joel On 05/04/2014 02:02 PM, Jay Philips wrote: Hi Joel, I think i hit my first snag as i dont run 64-bit linux. :( Jay Philips On 05/04/2014 08:48 PM, Joel Madero wrote: Nice! Thanks for offering to try. First thing is to download the very large package (8.4 gigs) - https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/HowToBibisect#Versions You'll want the 42all version - you can download from either TDF or Canonical servers. Let me know if you need help and I'll try to do what I can. The wiki is pretty solid but sometimes I hit snags that require finagling. Best, Joel On 05/04/2014 02:52 AM, Jay Philips wrote: Hi, No i haven't bibisected before, but can give it a try. Jay Philips On 05/04/2014 06:51 AM, Joel Madero wrote: have you bibisected before? if not, are you willing to try? it helps tremendously for regressions. Best, Joel On 05/03/2014 11:30 AM, Jay Philips wrote: Hi Joel, I'm running on Linux. All the regressions i've found can be pulled from this list of my bug reports https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?f1=short_descemailreporter1=1list_id=420031o1=substringemailtype1=substringquery_format=advancedbug_status=UNCONFIRMEDbug_status=NEWbug_status=ASSIGNEDbug_status=REOPENEDbug_status=RESOLVEDbug_status=VERIFIEDbug_status=CLOSEDbug_status=NEEDINFObug_status=PLEASETESTemail1=philipz85%40hotmail.comv1=regressionproduct=LibreOffice Jay Philips On 05/03/2014 09:49 PM, Joel Madero wrote: Hey Jay, Are you running Windows or Linux? I'd like to get some bibisects of these if possible (the ones where you say it's a regression) Best, Joel On 05/02/2014 10:14 PM, Jay Philips wrote: Hi All, I just wanted to share with you all the results of my latest extended .docx test and hope its okay to do so here in the mailing list. file url: http://download.microsoft.com/documents/customerevidence/Files/71003670/Xiamen_Tungsten_Group_unifies_enterprise.docx file contents: chinese language, text and images, 6 pages, 230Kb Results * docx doc - paragraph spacing is off [reported] - * export doc, docx strict, docx trans, odt - perfect as same as input * export rtf - font name not retained [4.1 - 4.3] and regression in font color not retained [4.2 only] [reported] * exports in word 2010 - all look good except doc/docx have a few bullet points with text on the following line [reported] - * kingsoft doc export - using Sinsum rather than Microsoft Yahei, blue colored text appeared in green, image centered rather than being left aligned, and second image had text wrapping on when it should have been off [reported] * kingsoft docx export - paragraph spacing is off * kingsoft rtf export - font name not retained [4.1 - 4.3] and not openable in versions below 4.1 [reported] - * word 2013/2010 doc, docx trans, docx strict, rtf export - paragraph and line spacing is off * word 2013/2010 odt export - table type lines appeared on the page which are not visible in calligra words [reported] Rating: B as opening/saving rtf/doc had font and image problems, as well as problems with opening ms word odt file ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/ ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/ ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/ ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Running LO 4.3 alpha in Windows XP...
Hey Pedro, I haven't seen this. With Windows XP reaching EOL according to Microsoft I wonder what the plan is . . . I'll try to verify this and then try to go from there. Best, Joel On 05/04/2014 03:42 PM, Pedro wrote: Hi all I can't do anything with LO 4.3 alpha under Windows XP Pro x86 en_US SP3: 1) create new doc, type one word, crash 2) create new spreadsheet, type anything, crash 3) create new presentation, crash 4) create new drawing, crash ... I deleted the LibreOfficeDev profile between some crashes, just in case it was corrupted. It didn't make any difference if I deleted or not. Has this been reported? Is this a Windows XP problem? Cheers, Pedro -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Running-LO-4-3-alpha-in-Windows-XP-tp4107585.html Sent from the QA mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/ ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Running LO 4.3 alpha in Windows XP...
Can you link me to the download? I just installed the latest master/daily and it works fine. Best, Joel On 05/04/2014 04:41 PM, V Stuart Foote wrote: Here is a stack trace for a crashing writer session on XP sp3... soffice.bin =-=-= ntdll.dll!KiFastSystemCallRet kernel32.dll!WaitForMultipleObjects+0x18 kernel32.dll!GetSystemDirectoryW+0x35 kernel32.dll!UnhandledExceptionFilter+0x55c MSVCR110.dll!_crtUnhandledException+0x14 MSVCR110.dll!_invalid_parameter+0xfd MSVCR110.dll!abort+0x38 sal3.dll!rtl_cache_free+0x157 cppuhelper3MSC.dll!cppu::createFactoryProxy+0x440 cppuhelper3MSC.dll!cppu::createFactoryProxy+0xe1b cppuhelper3MSC.dll!cppu::createFactoryProxy+0xdad cppuhelper3MSC.dll!cppu::WeakImplHelper1com::sun::star::lang::XSingleComponentFactory::acquire+0x399d cppuhelper3MSC.dll!cppu::WeakImplHelper1com::sun::star::lang::XSingleComponentFactory::acquire+0x40a5 cppuhelper3MSC.dll!cppu::WeakImplHelper1com::sun::star::lang::XSingleComponentFactory::getTypes+0x31e5 cppuhelper3MSC.dll!cppu::WeakImplHelper1com::sun::star::lang::XSingleComponentFactory::acquire+0x3fff lnglo.dll!cppu::WeakImplHelper2com::sun::star::linguistic2::XSpellChecker1,com::sun::star::linguistic2::XSpellChecker::operator=+0x1bac lnglo.dll!cppu::WeakImplHelper2com::sun::star::linguistic2::XSpellChecker1,com::sun::star::linguistic2::XSpellChecker::acquire+0x344a lnglo.dll!cppu::WeakImplHelper2com::sun::star::linguistic2::XSpellChecker1,com::sun::star::linguistic2::XSpellChecker::acquire+0x3249 lnglo.dll!cppu::WeakImplHelper2com::sun::star::linguistic2::XSpellChecker1,com::sun::star::linguistic2::XSpellChecker::operator=+0x6a9b lnglo.dll!cppu::WeakImplHelper2com::sun::star::linguistic2::XSpellChecker1,com::sun::star::linguistic2::XSpellChecker::WeakImplHelper2com::sun::star::linguistic2::XSpellChecker1,com::sun::star::linguistic2::XSpellChecker+0xbd4 lnglo.dll!cppu::WeakImplHelper2com::sun::star::linguistic2::XSpellChecker1,com::sun::star::linguistic2::XSpellChecker::operator=+0x3c97 cppuhelper3MSC.dll!cppu::createFactoryProxy+0x4f3 cppuhelper3MSC.dll!cppu::createFactoryProxy+0xe1b cppuhelper3MSC.dll!cppu::createFactoryProxy+0xd3d cppuhelper3MSC.dll!cppu::WeakImplHelper1com::sun::star::lang::XSingleComponentFactory::acquire+0x399d cppuhelper3MSC.dll!cppu::WeakImplHelper1com::sun::star::lang::XSingleComponentFactory::acquire+0x40a5 sal3.dll!rtl_cache_alloc+0x13b ntdll.dll!RtlFreeHeap+0x114 ntdll.dll!RtlFreeHeap+0x18b =-=-= -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Running-LO-4-3-alpha-in-Windows-XP-tp4107585p4107592.html Sent from the QA mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/ ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Running LO 4.3 alpha in Windows XP...
Thanks - I swear I looked there twice and didn't see it :-/ Oh well, I'll follow up with a couple tests once Windows is done updating. Haven't been in XP for over a year ;) Best, Joel On 05/04/2014 05:49 PM, V Stuart Foote wrote: Joel, 4.3.0 Alpha1 on the Pre-release page http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/win/x86/ http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/win/x86/LibreOfficeDev_4.3.0.0.alpha1_Win_x86.msi -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Running-LO-4-3-alpha-in-Windows-XP-tp4107585p4107598.html Sent from the QA mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/ ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] DOCX Test 4 Results
Hey Jay, Are you running Windows or Linux? I'd like to get some bibisects of these if possible (the ones where you say it's a regression) Best, Joel On 05/02/2014 10:14 PM, Jay Philips wrote: Hi All, I just wanted to share with you all the results of my latest extended .docx test and hope its okay to do so here in the mailing list. file url: http://download.microsoft.com/documents/customerevidence/Files/71003670/Xiamen_Tungsten_Group_unifies_enterprise.docx file contents: chinese language, text and images, 6 pages, 230Kb Results * docx doc - paragraph spacing is off [reported] - * export doc, docx strict, docx trans, odt - perfect as same as input * export rtf - font name not retained [4.1 - 4.3] and regression in font color not retained [4.2 only] [reported] * exports in word 2010 - all look good except doc/docx have a few bullet points with text on the following line [reported] - * kingsoft doc export - using Sinsum rather than Microsoft Yahei, blue colored text appeared in green, image centered rather than being left aligned, and second image had text wrapping on when it should have been off [reported] * kingsoft docx export - paragraph spacing is off * kingsoft rtf export - font name not retained [4.1 - 4.3] and not openable in versions below 4.1 [reported] - * word 2013/2010 doc, docx trans, docx strict, rtf export - paragraph and line spacing is off * word 2013/2010 odt export - table type lines appeared on the page which are not visible in calligra words [reported] Rating: B as opening/saving rtf/doc had font and image problems, as well as problems with opening ms word odt file ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
