Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bugzilla: Adding new Status for 'abandoned' bugs?

2015-12-27 Thread Hung Mark
Hi, Just random thought about the discussion. Please ignore me if it didn't sounds good. How about "discontinued" instead of "abandoned", with some automatic message to describe why it is discontinued. Note that sometimes user just fail and can't find procedure to reproduce on his own. For

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bugzilla: Adding new Status for 'abandoned' bugs?

2015-11-13 Thread David Tardon
Hi, On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 12:33:47AM +0100, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote: > On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 12:00:16AM +0100, Eike Rathke wrote: > > Hi Wols, > > > > On Wednesday, 2015-11-11 19:09:39 +, Wols Lists wrote: > > > > > It's getting more wordy but INSUFFICIENT DATA AVAILABLE is a bit more >

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bugzilla: Adding new Status for 'abandoned' bugs?

2015-11-12 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi Wols, On Wednesday, 2015-11-11 19:09:39 +, Wols Lists wrote: > It's getting more wordy but INSUFFICIENT DATA AVAILABLE is a bit more > neutral. insufficient data can not be available scnr ;-) Eike -- LibreOffice Calc developer. Number formatter stricken i18n transpositionizer.

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bugzilla: Adding new Status for 'abandoned' bugs?

2015-11-12 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 12:00:16AM +0100, Eike Rathke wrote: > Hi Wols, > > On Wednesday, 2015-11-11 19:09:39 +, Wols Lists wrote: > > > It's getting more wordy but INSUFFICIENT DATA AVAILABLE is a bit more > > neutral. > > > insufficient data can not be available > Nitpick, but true

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bugzilla: Adding new Status for 'abandoned' bugs?

2015-11-11 Thread Wols Lists
On 09/11/15 19:33, Eike Rathke wrote: > Hu? No. What I meant is have INSUFFICIENTDATA on the same level as > WORKSFORME and INVALID, a status attribute, not a status. So if a bug > was in status NEEDINFO for some time and info wasn't provided it can be > set to RESOLVED INSUFFICIENTDATA and then

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bugzilla: Adding new Status for 'abandoned' bugs?

2015-11-10 Thread Michael Stahl
On 09.11.2015 23:11, Tommy wrote: > Joel Madero wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> I think we should keep labeling those as INVALID >>> >>> IMHO the time spent to implement this new >>> ABANDONED/EXPIRED/WHATEVERstate will be almost useless... >>> >>> in both cases the fault of the bug closure is the reporting

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bugzilla: Adding new Status for 'abandoned' bugs?

2015-11-10 Thread Hung Mark
Hi, Just random thought about the discussion. Please ignore me if it didn't sounds good. How about "discontinued" instead of "abandoned", with some automatic message to describe why it is discontinued. Note that sometimes user just fail and can't find procedure to reproduce on his own. For

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bugzilla: Adding new Status for 'abandoned' bugs?

2015-11-09 Thread Tommy
Joel Madero wrote: I think we should keep labeling those as INVALID IMHO the time spent to implement this new ABANDONED/EXPIRED/WHATEVERstate will be almost useless... in both cases the fault of the bug closure is the reporting user so I really do not care at all being diplomatic with

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bugzilla: Adding new Status for 'abandoned' bugs?

2015-11-09 Thread Norbert Thiebaud
On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 12:13 PM, Joel Madero wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > >> >> Insufficient Data though can also be used for situations where a bug can >> not be reproduced due to, well, insufficient data.. i.e. happened one >> time crash

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bugzilla: Adding new Status for 'abandoned' bugs?

2015-11-09 Thread Norbert Thiebaud
On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 12:13 PM, Joel Madero wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > >> >> Insufficient Data though can also be used for situations where a bug can >> not be reproduced due to, well, insufficient data.. i.e. happened one >> time crash

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bugzilla: Adding new Status for 'abandoned' bugs?

2015-11-09 Thread Joel Madero
> * ABANDONED > * INSUFFICIENT DATA (RedHat) > * EXPIRED (Launchpad) Of these I like ABANDONED as it indicates that the user abandoned his/her own bug. Insufficient Data is really wordy to me, Expired indicates that the user could just set the bug back to UNCONFIRMED and say "this is still a

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bugzilla: Adding new Status for 'abandoned' bugs?

2015-11-09 Thread Joel Madero
> * ABANDONED > * INSUFFICIENT DATA (RedHat) > * EXPIRED (Launchpad) Of these I like ABANDONED as it indicates that the user abandoned his/her own bug. Insufficient Data is really wordy to me, Expired indicates that the user could just set the bug back to UNCONFIRMED and say "this is still a

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bugzilla: Adding new Status for 'abandoned' bugs?

2015-11-09 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi Joel, On Monday, 2015-11-09 09:23:20 -0800, Joel Madero wrote: > > * ABANDONED > > * INSUFFICIENT DATA (RedHat) > > * EXPIRED (Launchpad) > > Of these I like ABANDONED as it indicates that the user abandoned > his/her own bug. Insufficient Data is really wordy to me, Insufficient Data

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bugzilla: Adding new Status for 'abandoned' bugs?

2015-11-09 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi Joel, On Monday, 2015-11-09 09:23:20 -0800, Joel Madero wrote: > > * ABANDONED > > * INSUFFICIENT DATA (RedHat) > > * EXPIRED (Launchpad) > > Of these I like ABANDONED as it indicates that the user abandoned > his/her own bug. Insufficient Data is really wordy to me, Insufficient Data

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bugzilla: Adding new Status for 'abandoned' bugs?

2015-11-09 Thread Joel Madero
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > > Insufficient Data though can also be used for situations where a bug can > not be reproduced due to, well, insufficient data.. i.e. happened one > time crash and no stack trace, no exact steps to reproduce, even if the > reporter was or would be

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bugzilla: Adding new Status for 'abandoned' bugs?

2015-11-09 Thread Joel Madero
On 11/09/2015 11:15 AM, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote: > On Mon, Nov 09, 2015 at 07:10:44PM +0100, Eike Rathke wrote: >> Insufficient Data though can also be used for situations where a bug can >> not be reproduced due to, well, insufficient data.. i.e. happened one >> time crash and no stack trace,

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bugzilla: Adding new Status for 'abandoned' bugs?

2015-11-09 Thread Joel Madero
On 11/09/2015 11:15 AM, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote: > On Mon, Nov 09, 2015 at 07:10:44PM +0100, Eike Rathke wrote: >> Insufficient Data though can also be used for situations where a bug can >> not be reproduced due to, well, insufficient data.. i.e. happened one >> time crash and no stack trace,

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bugzilla: Adding new Status for 'abandoned' bugs?

2015-11-09 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi, On Mon, Nov 09, 2015 at 09:23:20AM -0800, Joel Madero wrote: > > * ABANDONED > > * INSUFFICIENT DATA (RedHat) > > * EXPIRED (Launchpad) > > Of these I like ABANDONED as it indicates that the user abandoned > his/her own bug. Insufficient Data is really wordy to me, Expired > indicates that

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bugzilla: Adding new Status for 'abandoned' bugs?

2015-11-09 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
On Mon, Nov 09, 2015 at 07:10:44PM +0100, Eike Rathke wrote: > Insufficient Data though can also be used for situations where a bug can > not be reproduced due to, well, insufficient data.. i.e. happened one > time crash and no stack trace, no exact steps to reproduce, even if the > reporter was

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bugzilla: Adding new Status for 'abandoned' bugs?

2015-11-09 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
On Mon, Nov 09, 2015 at 07:10:44PM +0100, Eike Rathke wrote: > Insufficient Data though can also be used for situations where a bug can > not be reproduced due to, well, insufficient data.. i.e. happened one > time crash and no stack trace, no exact steps to reproduce, even if the > reporter was

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bugzilla: Adding new Status for 'abandoned' bugs?

2015-11-09 Thread Joel Madero
> > > I think we should keep labeling those as INVALID > > IMHO the time spent to implement this new > ABANDONED/EXPIRED/WHATEVERstate will be almost useless... > > in both cases the fault of the bug closure is the reporting user > so I really do not care at all being diplomatic with people who

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bugzilla: Adding new Status for 'abandoned' bugs?

2015-11-09 Thread Joel Madero
> > > I think we should keep labeling those as INVALID > > IMHO the time spent to implement this new > ABANDONED/EXPIRED/WHATEVERstate will be almost useless... > > in both cases the fault of the bug closure is the reporting user > so I really do not care at all being diplomatic with people who

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bugzilla: Adding new Status for 'abandoned' bugs?

2015-11-09 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi Bjoern, On Monday, 2015-11-09 20:15:39 +0100, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote: > On Mon, Nov 09, 2015 at 07:10:44PM +0100, Eike Rathke wrote: > > Insufficient Data though can also be used for situations where a bug can > > not be reproduced due to, well, insufficient data.. i.e. happened one > > time

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bugzilla: Adding new Status for 'abandoned' bugs?

2015-11-09 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi Bjoern, On Monday, 2015-11-09 20:15:39 +0100, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote: > On Mon, Nov 09, 2015 at 07:10:44PM +0100, Eike Rathke wrote: > > Insufficient Data though can also be used for situations where a bug can > > not be reproduced due to, well, insufficient data.. i.e. happened one > > time

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bugzilla: Adding new Status for 'abandoned' bugs?

2015-11-09 Thread Tommy
Robinson Tryon wrote: Hi all, As mentioned in the ESC call, it could be helpful to add a new Bugzilla Status that encompasses bugs that have been abandoned/don't have enough data. => What type of bugs would this cover? * User isn't willing to share private document with anyone, and we can't