Re: [Libreoffice] [PATCH] make STR_MERGE_NOTEMPTY more understandable
Hi, On Wednesday, 2011-11-09 15:15:33 -0500, Kohei Yoshida wrote: Isn't Should the contents of all cells be concatenated and moved into the merged cell? better ? I like the following better: Do you want to merge the contents of the selected cells into one cell? Clicking 'No' will only retain the content of the upper-left cell. I agree with the wording of the question, but will only retain to me sounds as if the content of other cells would be lost, which isn't the case, it's just not displayed and hidden in the merged cells. We also should avoid terms like upper-left, as in a right-to-left environment it would be the top right cell instead. Eike -- LibreOffice Calc developer. Number formatter stricken i18n transpositionizer. GnuPG key 0x293C05FD : 997A 4C60 CE41 0149 0DB3 9E96 2F1A D073 293C 05FD pgpWP3vYbRZm8.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: [Libreoffice] [PATCH] make STR_MERGE_NOTEMPTY more understandable
Le mercredi 09 novembre 2011 à 15:15 -0500, Kohei Yoshida a écrit : On Wed, 2011-11-09 at 18:40 +0100, Maxime de Roucy wrote: Summary : Isn't Should the contents of all cells be concatenated and moved into the merged cell? better ? I like the following better: Do you want to merge the contents of the selected cells into one cell? Clicking 'No' will only retain the content of the upper-left cell. I like it. The merge word could be changed to concatenate which is more precise ... but for me both are OK. The end of the sentence into one cell could be removed since it a bit obvious. Do you want to (merge or concatenate) the contents of the selected cells (into one cell or nothing) ? Clicking 'No' will only retain the content of the upper-left cell. What do you think ? -- Maxime de Roucy Groupe LINAGORA - OSSA 80 rue Roque de Fillol 92800 PUTEAUX Tel. : 0 810 251 251 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: [Libreoffice] [PATCH] make STR_MERGE_NOTEMPTY more understandable
Hi, Maxime de Roucy schrieb: Le mercredi 09 novembre 2011 à 15:15 -0500, Kohei Yoshida a écrit : On Wed, 2011-11-09 at 18:40 +0100, Maxime de Roucy wrote: Summary : Isn't Should the contents of all cells be concatenated and moved into the merged cell? better ? I like the following better: Do you want to merge the contents of the selected cells into one cell? Clicking 'No' will only retain the content of the upper-left cell. I like it. The merge word could be changed to concatenate which is more precise ... but for me both are OK. The end of the sentence into one cell could be removed since it a bit obvious. Do you want to (merge or concatenate) the contents of the selected cells (into one cell or nothing) ? Clicking 'No' will only retain the content of the upper-left cell. What do you think ? Clicking 'No' will only retain the content of the upper-left cell. That is wrong. The content remains in the hidden cells and can still be used in formulas. That is a used feature, when you will show a different content to the user than you need for calculation. Kind regards Regina ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: [Libreoffice] [PATCH] make STR_MERGE_NOTEMPTY more understandable
Hi all, Isnt this something for ux-advise? Best, Bjoern On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 11:22:27AM +0100, Regina Henschel wrote: Hi, Maxime de Roucy schrieb: Le mercredi 09 novembre 2011 à 15:15 -0500, Kohei Yoshida a écrit : On Wed, 2011-11-09 at 18:40 +0100, Maxime de Roucy wrote: Summary : Isn't Should the contents of all cells be concatenated and moved into the merged cell? better ? I like the following better: Do you want to merge the contents of the selected cells into one cell? Clicking 'No' will only retain the content of the upper-left cell. I like it. The merge word could be changed to concatenate which is more precise ... but for me both are OK. The end of the sentence into one cell could be removed since it a bit obvious. Do you want to (merge or concatenate) the contents of the selected cells (into one cell or nothing) ? Clicking 'No' will only retain the content of the upper-left cell. What do you think ? Clicking 'No' will only retain the content of the upper-left cell. That is wrong. The content remains in the hidden cells and can still be used in formulas. That is a used feature, when you will show a different content to the user than you need for calculation. Kind regards Regina ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: [Libreoffice] [PATCH] make STR_MERGE_NOTEMPTY more understandable
I agree with the wording of the question, but will only retain to me sounds as if the content of other cells would be lost, which isn't the case, it's just not displayed and hidden in the merged cells. We also should avoid terms like upper-left, as in a right-to-left environment it would be the top right cell instead. The content remains in the hidden cells and can still be used in formulas. That is a used feature, when you will show a different content to the user than you need for calculation. I didn't know that.. sorry, now I understand. Then what do you think about : Should the contents of all cells be concatenated and moved into the first cell ? When clicking 'No' the contents of the hidden cells will remains and can still be used in formulas. -- Maxime de Roucy Groupe LINAGORA - OSSA 80 rue Roque de Fillol 92800 PUTEAUX Tel. : 0 810 251 251 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: [Libreoffice] [PATCH] make STR_MERGE_NOTEMPTY more understandable
At 3:15pm -0500 Wed, 09 Nov 2011, Kohei Yoshida wrote: On Wed, 2011-11-09 at 18:40 +0100, Maxime de Roucy wrote: Summary : Isn't Should the contents of all cells be concatenated and moved into the merged cell? better ? I like the following better: Do you want to merge the contents of the selected cells into one cell? Clicking 'No' will only retain the content of the upper-left cell. And I agree that the current message is very awkward. Heh, having run into that message more than few times in the past month, I, too, agree about its awkwardness. One more suggestion from the peanut gallery: Don't use No and Yes, but rather something more action-oriented, like Merge cells and Cancel. Jeff Waugh had an excellent presentation and visual (circa 2006/7) to show what the user sees, but of course my google is poor this evening. The summary is The entire dialog box is blurred/not readable, and the only visible parts are the buttons; the user should still be able to discern what action each button executes. That said, I'm clearly not a UI fella, and it was suggested elsewhere in this thread that this might be a UI issue ... Cheers, Kevin ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: [Libreoffice] [PATCH] make STR_MERGE_NOTEMPTY more understandable
Hi Maxime, On Monday, 2011-11-07 10:58:13 +0100, Maxime de Roucy wrote: I think the STR_MERGE_NOTEMPTY (in sc/source/ui/src/globstr.src ; used in Calc when merging cells) is not very understandable for common users : Should the contents of the hidden cells be moved into the first cell? I think Would you like to merge the contents of all cells? would be better. I agree that the dialog's current message maybe isn't the best. A new string however should somehow describe that when the question is answered with yes then * all content of to be merged cells will be removed * all content will be concatenated * this new concatenated content will be placed into the first cell of the merged cells merge contents of all cells lacks information, my suggestion would be Should the contents of all merged cells be concatenated and moved into the first cell? What do you think? Eike -- LibreOffice Calc developer. Number formatter stricken i18n transpositionizer. GnuPG key 0x293C05FD : 997A 4C60 CE41 0149 0DB3 9E96 2F1A D073 293C 05FD pgpKAFkQRwhoH.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
[Libreoffice] [PATCH] make STR_MERGE_NOTEMPTY more understandable
Hello
I think the STR_MERGE_NOTEMPTY (in sc/source/ui/src/globstr.src ; used
in Calc when merging cells) is not very understandable for common
users : Should the contents of the hidden cells be moved into the first
cell?
I think Would you like to merge the contents of all cells? would be
better.
This is my first contribution to libreoffice, feel free to tell me if I
did something wrong.
Thank you in advance.
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Maxime de Roucy
Groupe LINAGORA - OSSA
80 rue Roque de Fillol
92800 PUTEAUX
Tel. : 0 810 251 251
From 4d16dac1ec999a458692336f936adf3959d93f82 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Maxime de Roucy maxime.dero...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2011 10:55:08 +0100
Subject: [PATCH] Make STR_MERGE_NOTEMPTY more understandable
Change of the STR_MERGE_NOTEMPTY in sc/source/ui/src/globstr.src in
order to make the merge cells question clearer.
---
sc/source/ui/src/globstr.src |2 +-
1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
diff --git a/sc/source/ui/src/globstr.src b/sc/source/ui/src/globstr.src
index 9a1a42f..7f6f874 100644
--- a/sc/source/ui/src/globstr.src
+++ b/sc/source/ui/src/globstr.src
@@ -935,7 +935,7 @@ Resource RID_GLOBSTR
};
String STR_MERGE_NOTEMPTY
{
-Text [ en-US ] = Should the contents of the hidden cells be moved into the first cell? ;
+Text [ en-US ] = Would you like to merge the contents of all cells?;
};
String STR_CELL_FILTER
{
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