FW: Re: I have wrote for a couple of hours something like 56 pages after that I have save it pressing the button Save many times and I the end I have discovered that my document had lost 50 + pages ,

2020-07-26 Thread kov.h.vik.developer
Hi, Paul, or anybody else,I think, it would be reason, that we file a bug. 
Modify autosave range option setting  for speed capability HDD vs SSD vs 
Cloud.I can't to do this, (file a bug) just check back, because I don't know, 
how could I put the link of these mails' archive.Thanks,Viktor
PS Hi , Here I have found that other people are praising the Autosaving 
Option from Google Docs  , The thing that I have emphasized in the previous 
emails as well as a priority , a must from my opinion ., IMHO . We can not 
compare A trillion dollar company like Google with 2 Billion users for G suite  
with a Team of Volunteers that are developing for free a product like Libre 
.But I think we should emulate the Best Features like Autosaving  from Google 
Docs and others , from Successful and reliable software solutions like G Docs 
so on  and Implement by Default AutoSAving features every Couple of Seconds 
IMHO 
.https://www.goskills.com/Microsoft-Office/Resources/Google-Docs-Microsoft-Word-comparison
 
https://www.zdnet.com/article/google-g-suite-now-has-2-billion-users/#:~:text=Google's%20office%20productivity%20suite%2C%20G,the%20end%20of%20last%20year.
 Plus, Docs backs up your saved files to Google Drive instead of your local 
hard drive.So Google saves your work — and backs up your work — to give you 
extra protection should you spill coffee all over your laptop and wreck your 
hard drive.Our winner: Google is the automatic save hero you never thought your 
docs needed.Thanks for your work developing a good product .kind regards.adrian 
g On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 10:58 PM g adi  wrote:Hi Italo , 
Paul , Hi guys  ! I have just remember how I have said in the previous emails : 
Why do not made Autosaving Implicit By Default Very Frequently , By Default it 
is like 10 minutes , I have manual Choose 1 minute the minimum but I have 
Remember that Google Docs has the AutoSave like every 2 Seconds , Why you do 
not do the same ? Autosave every 1 -2 Seconds ? and by Default do not let new 
Libre Users choose them because can be too late and they will loose they words 
, work and the Libre File  and the people will be very upset . This should be a 
Priority , it is a Major Issue and and Urgent One  in IMHO , Google Docs is 
doing the same for example .Loosing your Writing is very frustrating  and 
people could lose precious and very important documents , it was not my case , 
still I was upset but you got my idea . 
https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/33150/libreoffice-just-not-saving-properly-and-deleted-1000-words-of-my-dissertation/#:~:text=Check%20the%20Tools%20%7C%20Options%20%7C%20LibreOffice,document%20and%20save%20as%20docx.
 I don't know what the  going on but I just saved my work to close it and 
reopen it because spellcheck wasn't working and I reopened it and it's saved 2 
words? It did something similar last night but I thought I just hadn't saved it 
properly cos it only lost 200 words or so. 2. Same Why the Backup or Temporary 
File Salvation it is not working properly too ? As a second net save mechanism 
in the case like something Bad is Happening like in my case : saving as Docx , 
Black out , no more Electricity so on ?3. Microsoft Word , Google Docs they 
have better Recovery Systems I think , I think we can learn from them and we 
can implement ?4. I have give you the details requested , can you reproduce my 
case and my error ?Thanks .kind regards,adrian gOn Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 4:39 PM 
g adi  wrote:Hi !Thanks for making this software for free , 
for your work but yesterday I was very upset .I have open a new file save it 
.docx , like I have done for a file before , one more time , just so this was 
the second time that I have created and saved a file with Docx and not ODt 
because in the past couple of my friends after I have send them the Odt files 
they said that they could not open them on Laptop or Mobile and I need to tell 
them what to install so on so Yesterday I have said that Lets create a Docx 
File using Libre so that It will be compatible for my friends But It was a bad 
Idea to save it Docx instead of Odt . It cost me a couple of hours of work . I 
have wrote for a couple of hours something like 56 pages after that I have save 
it  pressing the button Save many times and I the end I have discovered that my 
document had lost 50 + pages , they were pics for my anatomy Notes , all my 
pics were gone just a little Text had been save it .very frustrating to lose my 
work for couple of hours .I have tried the solution bellow with the Backup and 
Temporary files and no file I have found .I could not believe that this could 
happen for Libre Office a software with many years experience behind .I do not 
Understand why This Option It is still there Saving As Docx , Still Available 
if it is not Working properly  ? Why not Beta ? Why not a big Sign that it is 
possible to loose your Work ?  if It Is causing Losing Pages 98 % of my pages 
mayne , 50 + pages with pictures for 

Re: I have wrote for a couple of hours something like 56 pages after that I have save it pressing the button Save many times and I the end I have discovered that my document had lost 50 + pages ,

2020-07-26 Thread g adi
PS
Hi ,

Here I have found that other people are praising the Autosaving Option from
Google Docs  , The thing that I have emphasized in the previous emails as
well as a priority , a must from my opinion ., IMHO . We can not compare A
trillion dollar company like Google with 2 Billion users for G suite  with
a Team of Volunteers that are developing for free a product like Libre .But
I think we should emulate the Best Features like Autosaving  from Google
Docs and others , from Successful and reliable software solutions like G
Docs so on  and Implement by Default AutoSAving features every Couple of
Seconds IMHO .


https://www.goskills.com/Microsoft-Office/Resources/Google-Docs-Microsoft-Word-comparison


https://www.zdnet.com/article/google-g-suite-now-has-2-billion-users/#:~:text=Google's%20office%20productivity%20suite%2C%20G,the%20end%20of%20last%20year.


Plus, Docs backs up your saved files to Google Drive instead of your local
hard drive.

So Google saves your work — *and backs up your work — *to give you extra
protection should you spill coffee all over your laptop and wreck your hard
drive.

Our winner: Google is the automatic save hero you never thought your docs
needed.
Thanks for your work developing a good product .
kind regards.
adrian g


On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 10:58 PM g adi  wrote:

> Hi Italo , Paul , Hi guys  !
>
> I have just remember how I have said in the previous emails : Why do not
> made Autosaving Implicit By Default Very Frequently , By Default it is like
> 10 minutes , I have manual Choose 1 minute the minimum but I have Remember
> that Google Docs has the AutoSave like every 2 Seconds ,
>
> Why you do not do the same ? Autosave every 1 -2 Seconds ? and by Default
> do not let new Libre Users choose them because can be too late and they
> will loose they words , work and the Libre File  and the people will be
> very upset .
>
> This should be a Priority , it is a Major Issue and and Urgent One  in
> IMHO , Google Docs is doing the same for example .
>
> Loosing your Writing is very frustrating  and people could lose
> precious and very important documents , it was not my case , still I was
> upset but you got my idea .
>
>
>
> https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/33150/libreoffice-just-not-saving-properly-and-deleted-1000-words-of-my-dissertation/#:~:text=Check%20the%20Tools%20%7C%20Options%20%7C%20LibreOffice,document%20and%20save%20as%20docx.
>
> I don't know what the  going on but I just saved my work to close it
> and reopen it because spellcheck wasn't working and I reopened it and it's
> saved 2 words? It did something similar last night but I thought I just
> hadn't saved it properly cos it only lost 200 words or so.
>
> 2. Same Why the Backup or Temporary File Salvation it is not working
> properly too ? As a second net save mechanism in the case like something
> Bad is Happening like in my case : saving as Docx , Black out , no more
> Electricity so on ?
>
> 3. Microsoft Word , Google Docs they have better Recovery Systems I think
> , I think we can learn from them and we can implement ?
>
> 4. I have give you the details requested , can you reproduce my case and
> my error ?
>
> Thanks .
> kind regards,
> adrian g
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 4:39 PM g adi  wrote:
>
>> Hi !
>>
>> Thanks for making this software for free , for your work but yesterday I
>> was very upset .
>>
>> I have open a new file save it .docx , like I have done for a file before
>> , one more time , just so this was the second time that I have created and
>> saved a file with Docx and not ODt because in the past couple of my friends
>> after I have send them the Odt files they said that they could not open
>> them on Laptop or Mobile and I need to tell them what to install so on so
>> Yesterday I have said that Lets create a Docx File using Libre so that It
>> will be compatible for my friends But It was a bad Idea to save it Docx
>> instead of Odt . It cost me a couple of hours of work .
>>
>> I have wrote for a couple of hours something like 56 pages after that I
>> have save it  pressing the button Save many times and I the end I have
>> discovered that my document had lost 50 + pages ,
>> they were pics for my anatomy Notes , all my pics were gone just a little
>> Text had been save it .
>> very frustrating to lose my work for couple of hours .
>> I have tried the solution bellow with the Backup and Temporary files and
>> no file I have found .
>> I could not believe that this could happen for Libre Office a software
>> with many years experience behind .
>> I do not Understand why This Option It is still there Saving As Docx ,
>> Still Available if it is not Working properly  ? Why not Beta ? Why not a
>> big Sign that it is possible to loose your Work ?
>>  if It Is causing Losing Pages 98 % of my pages mayne , 50 + pages with
>> pictures for Anatomy .
>> The issue was reported in 2014 and still in 2020 had the same problem .
>>
>>
>> 

Re: I have wrote for a couple of hours something like 56 pages after that I have save it pressing the button Save many times and I the end I have discovered that my document had lost 50 + pages ,

2020-07-23 Thread Dante Doménech
Hi, I'm speaking to you as a user, not as a programmer.
I also use LO and as you noticed MS Office compatibility is quite bad.
The damage is already done and can't do anything, but here some tips to
avoid it next time.
For next time I recommend you to use the LO odt format (should work fine).
If you desperately want to use docx, recommend you to use WPS office.
Autosave time is not so easy, each 1-2 s could work on a SSD hard drive
with small documents, if you're using a HDD with a large file you could
kill yourself. If I'm not wrong you can't edit while it saves because it
has to freeze memory and copy it to the file (+ translation to xml). So it
would be very slow, so do not expect it. There may be a better way to do it
as you save, but google drive is cloud technologie and MS Word closed
technologie.
Save your file sometimes, do not wait to the last minut, won't kill you.

El jue., 23 jul. 2020 a las 21:59, g adi () escribió:

> Hi Italo , Paul , Hi guys  !
>
> I have just remember how I have said in the previous emails : Why do not
> made Autosaving Implicit By Default Very Frequently , By Default it is like
> 10 minutes , I have manual Choose 1 minute the minimum but I have Remember
> that Google Docs has the AutoSave like every 2 Seconds ,
>
> Why you do not do the same ? Autosave every 1 -2 Seconds ? and by Default
> do not let new Libre Users choose them because can be too late and they
> will loose they words , work and the Libre File  and the people will be
> very upset .
>
> This should be a Priority , it is a Major Issue and and Urgent One  in
> IMHO , Google Docs is doing the same for example .
>
> Loosing your Writing is very frustrating  and people could lose
> precious and very important documents , it was not my case , still I was
> upset but you got my idea .
>
>
>
> https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/33150/libreoffice-just-not-saving-properly-and-deleted-1000-words-of-my-dissertation/#:~:text=Check%20the%20Tools%20%7C%20Options%20%7C%20LibreOffice,document%20and%20save%20as%20docx.
>
> I don't know what the  going on but I just saved my work to close it
> and reopen it because spellcheck wasn't working and I reopened it and it's
> saved 2 words? It did something similar last night but I thought I just
> hadn't saved it properly cos it only lost 200 words or so.
>
> 2. Same Why the Backup or Temporary File Salvation it is not working
> properly too ? As a second net save mechanism in the case like something
> Bad is Happening like in my case : saving as Docx , Black out , no more
> Electricity so on ?
>
> 3. Microsoft Word , Google Docs they have better Recovery Systems I think
> , I think we can learn from them and we can implement ?
>
> 4. I have give you the details requested , can you reproduce my case and
> my error ?
>
> Thanks .
> kind regards,
> adrian g
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 4:39 PM g adi  wrote:
>
>> Hi !
>>
>> Thanks for making this software for free , for your work but yesterday I
>> was very upset .
>>
>> I have open a new file save it .docx , like I have done for a file before
>> , one more time , just so this was the second time that I have created and
>> saved a file with Docx and not ODt because in the past couple of my friends
>> after I have send them the Odt files they said that they could not open
>> them on Laptop or Mobile and I need to tell them what to install so on so
>> Yesterday I have said that Lets create a Docx File using Libre so that It
>> will be compatible for my friends But It was a bad Idea to save it Docx
>> instead of Odt . It cost me a couple of hours of work .
>>
>> I have wrote for a couple of hours something like 56 pages after that I
>> have save it  pressing the button Save many times and I the end I have
>> discovered that my document had lost 50 + pages ,
>> they were pics for my anatomy Notes , all my pics were gone just a little
>> Text had been save it .
>> very frustrating to lose my work for couple of hours .
>> I have tried the solution bellow with the Backup and Temporary files and
>> no file I have found .
>> I could not believe that this could happen for Libre Office a software
>> with many years experience behind .
>> I do not Understand why This Option It is still there Saving As Docx ,
>> Still Available if it is not Working properly  ? Why not Beta ? Why not a
>> big Sign that it is possible to loose your Work ?
>>  if It Is causing Losing Pages 98 % of my pages mayne , 50 + pages with
>> pictures for Anatomy .
>> The issue was reported in 2014 and still in 2020 had the same problem .
>>
>>
>> https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/69531/recover-unsaved-document/#:~:text=LibreOffice%20should%20offer%20you%20to,see%20if%20anything%20is%20there.
>>
>>
>> You can check your recovery folder if you go to Tools -> Options ->
>> LibreOffice -> Path. There is location of your backup and temporary files.
>> Just go there to see if anything is there.
>>
>>
>> nothing , no file .
>>
>> This idea is very Good with the 

Re: I have wrote for a couple of hours something like 56 pages after that I have save it pressing the button Save many times and I the end I have discovered that my document had lost 50 + pages ,

2020-07-23 Thread g adi
Hi Italo , Paul , Hi guys  !

I have just remember how I have said in the previous emails : Why do not
made Autosaving Implicit By Default Very Frequently , By Default it is like
10 minutes , I have manual Choose 1 minute the minimum but I have Remember
that Google Docs has the AutoSave like every 2 Seconds ,

Why you do not do the same ? Autosave every 1 -2 Seconds ? and by Default
do not let new Libre Users choose them because can be too late and they
will loose they words , work and the Libre File  and the people will be
very upset .

This should be a Priority , it is a Major Issue and and Urgent One  in IMHO
, Google Docs is doing the same for example .

Loosing your Writing is very frustrating  and people could lose
precious and very important documents , it was not my case , still I was
upset but you got my idea .


https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/33150/libreoffice-just-not-saving-properly-and-deleted-1000-words-of-my-dissertation/#:~:text=Check%20the%20Tools%20%7C%20Options%20%7C%20LibreOffice,document%20and%20save%20as%20docx.

I don't know what the  going on but I just saved my work to close it
and reopen it because spellcheck wasn't working and I reopened it and it's
saved 2 words? It did something similar last night but I thought I just
hadn't saved it properly cos it only lost 200 words or so.

2. Same Why the Backup or Temporary File Salvation it is not working
properly too ? As a second net save mechanism in the case like something
Bad is Happening like in my case : saving as Docx , Black out , no more
Electricity so on ?

3. Microsoft Word , Google Docs they have better Recovery Systems I think ,
I think we can learn from them and we can implement ?

4. I have give you the details requested , can you reproduce my case and my
error ?

Thanks .
kind regards,
adrian g




On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 4:39 PM g adi  wrote:

> Hi !
>
> Thanks for making this software for free , for your work but yesterday I
> was very upset .
>
> I have open a new file save it .docx , like I have done for a file before
> , one more time , just so this was the second time that I have created and
> saved a file with Docx and not ODt because in the past couple of my friends
> after I have send them the Odt files they said that they could not open
> them on Laptop or Mobile and I need to tell them what to install so on so
> Yesterday I have said that Lets create a Docx File using Libre so that It
> will be compatible for my friends But It was a bad Idea to save it Docx
> instead of Odt . It cost me a couple of hours of work .
>
> I have wrote for a couple of hours something like 56 pages after that I
> have save it  pressing the button Save many times and I the end I have
> discovered that my document had lost 50 + pages ,
> they were pics for my anatomy Notes , all my pics were gone just a little
> Text had been save it .
> very frustrating to lose my work for couple of hours .
> I have tried the solution bellow with the Backup and Temporary files and
> no file I have found .
> I could not believe that this could happen for Libre Office a software
> with many years experience behind .
> I do not Understand why This Option It is still there Saving As Docx ,
> Still Available if it is not Working properly  ? Why not Beta ? Why not a
> big Sign that it is possible to loose your Work ?
>  if It Is causing Losing Pages 98 % of my pages mayne , 50 + pages with
> pictures for Anatomy .
> The issue was reported in 2014 and still in 2020 had the same problem .
>
>
> https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/69531/recover-unsaved-document/#:~:text=LibreOffice%20should%20offer%20you%20to,see%20if%20anything%20is%20there.
>
>
> You can check your recovery folder if you go to Tools -> Options ->
> LibreOffice -> Path. There is location of your backup and temporary files.
> Just go there to see if anything is there.
>
>
> nothing , no file .
>
> This idea is very Good with the Backup , Temporary File Saved In ODT
> default Saving File System From Libre  but Why it is not Working and this
> Should be Mandatory for The case when the File it is Saved on Formats Like
> .Docx that that been reported so many time that it is causing loss of Work
> ,Pages  ?
>
>
>
> https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/33150/libreoffice-just-not-saving-properly-and-deleted-1000-words-of-my-dissertation/
>
> I have created an Index and the Text part remain and All The Anatomical
> Pictures were Gone for Good unfortunately as you can see bellow .
>
> I was sad , upset and frustrated about this but I am appreciate your work
> to make this Software free , to develop and this is the reason that I am
> giving you this feedback so that others , I hope  not make the same mistake
> again .
>
> Thanks .
> kind regards,
> adrian g
>
>
>
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Re: I have wrote for a couple of hours something like 56 pages after that I have save it pressing the button Save many times and I the end I have discovered that my document had lost 50 + pages ,

2020-07-23 Thread Paul Menzel

Dear g adi,


Am 23.07.20 um 15:39 schrieb g adi:

[…]


Yesterday I have said that Lets create a Docx File using Libre so that It
will be compatible for my friends But It was a bad Idea to save it Docx
instead of Odt . It cost me a couple of hours of work .

I have wrote for a couple of hours something like 56 pages after that I
have save it  pressing the button Save many times and I the end I have
discovered that my document had lost 50 + pages ,
they were pics for my anatomy Notes , all my pics were gone just a little
Text had been save it .
very frustrating to lose my work for couple of hours .


[…]


if It Is causing Losing Pages 98 % of my pages mayne , 50 + pages with
pictures for Anatomy .


[…]


I have created an Index and the Text part remain and All The Anatomical
Pictures were Gone for Good unfortunately as you can see bellow.


I am sorry to hear about the incident. Can you please tell us the 
operating system and LibreOffice version, you are using?


Additionally, are only the pictures missing, or also text?


Kind regards,

Paul
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I have wrote for a couple of hours something like 56 pages after that I have save it pressing the button Save many times and I the end I have discovered that my document had lost 50 + pages ,

2020-07-23 Thread g adi
Hi !

Thanks for making this software for free , for your work but yesterday I
was very upset .

I have open a new file save it .docx , like I have done for a file before ,
one more time , just so this was the second time that I have created and
saved a file with Docx and not ODt because in the past couple of my friends
after I have send them the Odt files they said that they could not open
them on Laptop or Mobile and I need to tell them what to install so on so
Yesterday I have said that Lets create a Docx File using Libre so that It
will be compatible for my friends But It was a bad Idea to save it Docx
instead of Odt . It cost me a couple of hours of work .

I have wrote for a couple of hours something like 56 pages after that I
have save it  pressing the button Save many times and I the end I have
discovered that my document had lost 50 + pages ,
they were pics for my anatomy Notes , all my pics were gone just a little
Text had been save it .
very frustrating to lose my work for couple of hours .
I have tried the solution bellow with the Backup and Temporary files and no
file I have found .
I could not believe that this could happen for Libre Office a software with
many years experience behind .
I do not Understand why This Option It is still there Saving As Docx ,
Still Available if it is not Working properly  ? Why not Beta ? Why not a
big Sign that it is possible to loose your Work ?
 if It Is causing Losing Pages 98 % of my pages mayne , 50 + pages with
pictures for Anatomy .
The issue was reported in 2014 and still in 2020 had the same problem .

https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/69531/recover-unsaved-document/#:~:text=LibreOffice%20should%20offer%20you%20to,see%20if%20anything%20is%20there.


You can check your recovery folder if you go to Tools -> Options ->
LibreOffice -> Path. There is location of your backup and temporary files.
Just go there to see if anything is there.


nothing , no file .

This idea is very Good with the Backup , Temporary File Saved In ODT
default Saving File System From Libre  but Why it is not Working and this
Should be Mandatory for The case when the File it is Saved on Formats Like
.Docx that that been reported so many time that it is causing loss of Work
,Pages  ?


https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/33150/libreoffice-just-not-saving-properly-and-deleted-1000-words-of-my-dissertation/

I have created an Index and the Text part remain and All The Anatomical
Pictures were Gone for Good unfortunately as you can see bellow .

I was sad , upset and frustrated about this but I am appreciate your work
to make this Software free , to develop and this is the reason that I am
giving you this feedback so that others , I hope  not make the same mistake
again .

Thanks .
kind regards,
adrian g


LP 9  Notes.docx
Description: MS-Word 2007 document
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