[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 104318] CTL, CJK, and Western Language controls in the GUI cause confusion, handling languages and script selection needs rework--comfortable for a "Global" user community

2023-08-15 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #41 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Don't grok myself from 2018 ;-/.

But the mockup on comment 10 is clear: don't add nodes to the tree but tabs in
the one Basic Fonts page. Not much benefit in hiding tabs when CTL/CJK is not
enabled so just show it.

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2023-08-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #40 from Xisco Faulí  ---
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I'm very sorry for the noise caused by the automated QA admin job. I'm checking
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2023-08-12 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #39 from Buovjaga  ---
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #38)
> Hey, don't close as "QA Administrators" if you have a beef or legitimate
> concern fine--comment and own it. 

The automated job that runs for needinfos and mass pings is hosed. I have
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--- Comment #38 from V Stuart Foote  ---
Hey, don't close as "QA Administrators" if you have a beef or legitimate
concern fine--comment and own it. 

Until then I and others will keep reopening this issue. It needs attention, not
necessarily from the OP. Comment 19 and comment 23 germane.  Last round through
UX in 2018 did not resolve the issues of western centric UI and second class
handling of CTL and CJK scripts.

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2023-08-12 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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2023-08-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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2023-08-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #37 from QA Administrators  ---
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2023-08-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #36 from V Stuart Foote  ---
Sorry, but this is in no way resolved. It remains a subject for broader rework
of both the UI for handling ODF distinction for Western, CJK, and CTL scripts
but also of our template defaults for the PS/FS styles of each locale.

Kicking it back to UX-Advise as discussion belongs there along with dev input
on how we could broadly refactor to deliver more "global" UI.

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2023-08-10 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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2023-08-10 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #34 from Eyal Rozenberg  ---
Report (or others) still requested to clarify regarding the scope of this bug.

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--- Comment #32 from Aron Budea  ---
I assume this wasn't supposed to get closed.

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2023-08-08 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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2023-07-08 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #30 from QA Administrators  ---
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2023-01-09 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #29 from Eyal Rozenberg  ---
(In reply to Eyal Rozenberg from comment #28)

Ping.

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--- Comment #28 from Eyal Rozenberg  ---
At the moment, the bug title is much more expansive and general than the
opening comment. Can Toby, or others, comment on what this bug is about right
now, and adjust the title accordingly?

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--- Comment #27 from Eike Rathke  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #25)
> We discussed the topic in the design meeting. The recommendation is to
> remove language dependent font families from tools > options at language as
> well as the modules. The default setting should be defined in
> officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/VCL.xcu or
> i18npool/source/localedata/data/*
i18npool locale data doesn't make sense, we already have the language dependent
fonts in VCL.xcu

However, in VCL.xcu we have ordered lists of fonts, of which an available one
will be chosen at run time and then presented in Writer's Basic Fonts under
Tools-Options. The font matching may also select a font of a family if the
exact font name isn't found. My guess is you can't squeeze that functionality
into some default style. Also I don't understand why you want to remove those
settings.

> (l10n may be interested in supporting the
> default definition)
I don't grok that at all.

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2018-07-05 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #26 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #25)
> ...with the usual way to override per styles: default

That requires also to store Default independently from the document. When
changing the default today it also affects tools > options .. > font but only
for the current document. While changing tools > options ... > font is
permanent. 

To rework the Default style has also a positive bearing on the understanding of
styles and should be accompanied by a visual separation (e.g. per extra entry
in the filter dropdown).

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2018-07-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Summary|CTL, CJK, and Western   |CTL, CJK, and Western
   |Language controls in the|Language controls in the
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   |script selection needs  |script selection needs
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