[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 105550] FORMATTING Pasting text changes paragraph format in older ODT (because it introduces list style)

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 105550] FORMATTING Pasting text changes paragraph format in older ODT (because it introduces list style)

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--- Comment #17 from Ulrich Gemkow  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #16)
> ...

> (In reply to Ulrich Gemkow from comment #15)
> > Copying this special character ... copied the paragraph style.
> 
> We do it the other way around and you paste spacial > only text per
> ctrl+shift+insert. That's what I meant with "easy to paste without styles".

I understand, thanks (maybe you mean ctrl+shift+alt+V, "Paste unformatted
text"). But this also removes the character style from the pasted text. So I
have no way to paste text with the characters style retained but not the
paragraph style.

I see the different view: IMHO selecting characters and pasting them should
paste what I selected (the characters and their style) and not more (not the
paragraph style).

Thanks again for looking into this.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 105550] FORMATTING Pasting text changes paragraph format in older ODT (because it introduces list style)

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Summary|FORMATTING Pasting text |FORMATTING Pasting text
   |changes paragraph format in |changes paragraph format in
   |older LO document   |older ODT (because it
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 105550] FORMATTING Pasting text changes paragraph format in older LO document

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--- Comment #16 from Heiko Tietze  ---
I respectfully disagree. Given your text consists of  and now
you want to copy/paste the first heading. But since the paragraph style after
text is text again you always have to format the headings after copy/paste.
That's definitely not wanted. In my opinion we have a pretty good
implementation.

(In reply to Ulrich Gemkow from comment #15)
> Copying this special character ... copied the paragraph style.

We do it the other way around and you paste spacial > only text per
ctrl+shift+insert. That's what I meant with "easy to paste without styles".

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 105550] FORMATTING Pasting text changes paragraph format in older LO document

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--- Comment #15 from Ulrich Gemkow  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #14)
> But if the paragraph is empty with Default PS, isn't it a convenience
> feature to keep the source style? Pretty easy to paste without styles anyway.

This may be convenient but the usability costs are IMHO too high. Copying
characters from a paragraph to another should not change the targets paragraphs
style.

Side node on copying paragraph styles: Old MS word (sorry for referencing this)
had a notion of a paragraph style char at the end of each paragraph (a mirrored
P). Copying this special charactr (with or without preceding characters) copied
the paragraph style. This is IHMO a good solution.

But please look at the original bug report: The bug is that copying characters
from a paragraph in an existing document in the _same_ paragraph in the _same_
document changes the style of this paragraph - I cannot imagine any explanation
that this can be correct.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 105550] FORMATTING Pasting text changes paragraph format in older LO document

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--- Comment #14 from Heiko Tietze  ---
But if the paragraph is empty with Default PS, isn't it a convenience feature
to keep the source style? Pretty easy to paste without styles anyway.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 105550] FORMATTING Pasting text changes paragraph format in older LO document

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--- Comment #13 from Ulrich Gemkow  ---
IMHO this not expected behavior.

When selecting characters from a source paragraph and pasting these characters
into a target paragraph, I do not expect that the format of the source
paragraph is pasted and replaces the target paragraphs settings.

The _paragraph_ style should not at all be attached to selected characters from
a paragraph.

I would expect that pasting transfers the character style of the pasted
characters but not the paragraph styles.

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--- Comment #12 from Miklos Vajna  ---
Sounds like this is working as intended: paste doesn't overwrite styles in the
target document, so if your original content was formatted with styles and the
target has styles with the same names, then it's wanted behavior to change the
formatting during paste.

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--- Comment #11 from Timur  ---
Hi Miklos. Since you fixed  bug 101534, can you explain if this should be fixed
or not per Comment 3.

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--- Comment #10 from Timur  ---
*** Bug 136982 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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--- Comment #9 from Timur  ---
Repro 7.2+ so not a duplicate of bug 77651.

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--- Comment #8 from Heiko Tietze  ---
True, this one was wrong. But a bug like this has been reported before with
high probability and I found some relevant issues. No idea what exactly goes
wrong here.

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 77651 ***

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 105550] FORMATTING Pasting text changes paragraph format in older LO document

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--- Comment #7 from Ulrich Gemkow  ---
Thanks for looking into this. But this is IMHO not the same as #98381 and not
handled there.

Take the test document, select a few character _inside_ of the paragraph, press
Ctrl-C and then inside the same paragraph press Ctrl-V and the style changes.

This is text from the same paragraph pasted inside the same paragraph.

This behavior can IMHO never be correct, it is not what a user expects.

Thanks again!

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 105550] FORMATTING Pasting text changes paragraph format in older LO document

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--- Comment #6 from Heiko Tietze  ---
When you paste into an empty paragraph the source paragraph style will be used.
If the target is not empty, for example when you add a single space, the target
style will be used. That applies only to paragraph styles, of course. The
discussion runs on bug 98381 and bug 100018.

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 98381 ***

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Summary|FORMATTING Pasting text |FORMATTING Pasting text
   |changes paragraph format|changes paragraph format in
   ||older LO document
   Keywords||needsUXEval

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--- Comment #5 from Ulrich Gemkow  ---
This bug is still present

Version: 6.4.1.2
Build ID: 1:6.4.1~rc2-0ubuntu0.18.04.1
CPU threads: 4; OS: Linux 5.3; UI render: default; VCL: kf5; 
Locale: de-DE (en_US.UTF-8); UI-Language: en-US
Calc: threaded

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--- Comment #3 from Ulrich Gemkow  ---
Further investigation shows that this is a problem with an old LO document
opened in a new LO release:

The attached document was created with a older LO release which had not yet
separated the list styles from the "Styles and Formatting" list of styles. For
this document the list format was modified in the paragraph styles with the old
LO release.

When editing the old document in the current LO release the changing of the
paragraph "auto-assigns" the list style to the paragraph and this style is
different from the old modified list style.

When opening the attached document in the current LO release you see that the
list styles are in both lists.

I cannot judge what would be the correct behaviour. IMHO it would be correct to
copy the "old" list styles to the new ones when opening an old document to be
backward compatible. Or is the current behaviour intended?

[Unfortunately I cannot determine which old LO release was the creator of the
document, the document was changed several times with different LO releases]

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--- Comment #2 from Vitaliy  ---
Reproduced it. Taking

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--- Comment #1 from Vitaliy  ---
Reproduced it. Taking

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