[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 122218] After Update to 6.1.4 on macOS fonts are blurred on retina display (xcode 10)

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Stephan Bergmann  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Whiteboard|target:7.0.0 target:6.4.1   |target:7.0.0 target:6.4.2
   |target:6.3.6|
   Assignee|libreoffice-b...@lists.free |sberg...@redhat.com
   |desktop.org |
 Resolution|--- |FIXED
 Status|REOPENED|RESOLVED

--- Comment #199 from Stephan Bergmann  ---
(In reply to Stephan Bergmann from comment #198)
> Two relevant quotes from
>  html> "ESC meeting minutes: 2020-02-20":
> 
> > + 6.4.2 would be built with xcode11 on macOS (Mojave/10.14)

Based on that, lets set tentatively back to FIXED with "target:7.0.0
target:6.4.2", and see what the actual artefacts produced by TDF for those
releases will be.

(At least for LO master towards LO 7.0,

"Bump macOS build baseline to Xcode 11.3 and macOS 10.14.4" now requires that
the build will be done with "known good" Xcode >= 11, anyway.)

> > + Still, my fix only fixes the symptoms with Xcode 11 (and who knows
> >   what bad side effects it could eventually have), not the
> >   underlying cause (whatever that is exactly, probably related to
> >   "Layer-Backed Views",
> >   )
> >   which should still be fixed. (Stephan)

^ This is still very relevant!  Anybody knowledgeable about the involved macOS
APIs and LO's vcl code, please go ahead. :)

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 122218] After Update to 6.1.4 on macOS fonts are blurred on retina display (xcode 10)

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--- Comment #198 from Stephan Bergmann  ---
Two relevant quotes from

"ESC meeting minutes: 2020-02-20":

> + 6.4.2 would be built with xcode11 on macOS (Mojave/10.14)

> + Still, my fix only fixes the symptoms with Xcode 11 (and who knows
>   what bad side effects it could eventually have), not the
>   underlying cause (whatever that is exactly, probably related to
>   "Layer-Backed Views",
>   )
>   which should still be fixed. (Stephan)

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 122218] After Update to 6.1.4 on macOS fonts are blurred on retina display (xcode 10)

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--- Comment #197 from Nick  ---
(In reply to Stephan Bergmann from comment #191)
> > With what version of Xcode (and on what version of macOS, and with what
> > --with-macosx-sdk, --with-macosx-version-min-required, and
> > --with-macosx-version-max-allowed) was that built?
> 
> On IRC, cloph confirmed that that build was done with "xcode 10 on macos
> 10.13".  So that would match my understanding that such a build will be
> blurry.

I wonder why such an old version of macOS is used for build environment. MacOS
10.13 High Sierra was released on September 25, 2017 which makes it about 2.5
years old. It's currently used by 15.88% of users, according to Statcounter
GlobalStats.

This bug appeared in official builds with LO 6.3.0.1 dated 07-Jul-2019, if I'm
not wrong. So it has been 7.5 months and probably tens of thousands of Mac
downloads, resulting in many thousands of frustrated ordinary users. I cannot
help but think how many hours of suffering this has caused.

Now that we know how it can be fixed, I sincerely hope that somebody at LO
takes the issue to heart.

Thank you, Stephan!

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 122218] After Update to 6.1.4 on macOS fonts are blurred on retina display (xcode 10)

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   What|Removed |Added

 Status|RESOLVED|REOPENED
   Assignee|sberg...@redhat.com |libreoffice-b...@lists.free
   ||desktop.org
 Resolution|FIXED   |---

--- Comment #196 from Stephan Bergmann  ---
Reopened based on comment 192: "This means that all the future LO 6.3. and 6.4
(and potentially also 7.0?) 'official' TDF builds will remain blurry."  (See
there for potential ways how to fix.)

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 122218] After Update to 6.1.4 on macOS fonts are blurred on retina display (xcode 10)

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 Status|NEW |ASSIGNED

--- Comment #168 from Stephan Bergmann  ---
Potential "fix" at  "tdf#122218:
Hack to avoid blurry text with macOS SDK 10.15"; lets see whether that helps
for the TDF-provided builds.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 122218] After Update to 6.1.4 on macOS fonts are blurred on retina display (xcode 10)

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--- Comment #167 from Stephan Bergmann  ---
My blurriness check with my laptop being: start Calc, double click into cell
A1, type "status" into the cell, hit return, "status" will either become blurry
(bad) or be crisp (good).

Have Xcode 11.3.1 with SDK 10.15 and manually added
/Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Platforms/MacOSX.platform/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.13.sdk
copied from Xcode_9.4.xip obtained from
.

Comparing a crisp local master build with (among others)

  --with-macosx-sdk=10.13
  --with-macosx-version-max-allowed=10.13
  --with-macosx-version-min-required=10.13

against a blurry one with

  --with-macosx-sdk=10.15
  --with-macosx-version-max-allowed=10.13
  --with-macosx-version-min-required=10.13

(i.e., just switching the SDK used for the build), I find that what it takes to
change the blurry build to be crisp is just the following:

In instdir/LibreOffice.app/Contents/MacOS/soffice change two bytes from 0f a0
to 00 00,

> --- soffice-blurry-hexl
> +++ soffice-fixed-hexl
> @@ -66,7 +66,7 @@
>  0410: 0c00  2f75 7372 2f6c 6962 2f64 796c  /usr/lib/dyl
>  0420: 6400    1b00  1800   d...
>  0430: 814c 6893 454b 30cd 9f65 d3ff c8f1 9cf2  .Lh.EK0..e..
> -0440: 2400  1000  000d 0a00 000f 0a00  $...
> +0440: 2400  1000  000d 0a00    $...
>  0450: 2a00  1000       *...
>  0460: 2800 0080 1800  100f     (...
>  0470:     0c00  5000   P...

so that the LC_VERSION_MIN_MACOSX load command's sdk value changes from 10.15
to n/a,

> diff -u <(otool -l soffice-blurry) <(otool -l soffice-fixed)
> @@ -187,7 +187,7 @@
>cmd LC_VERSION_MIN_MACOSX
>cmdsize 16
>version 10.13
> -  sdk 10.15
> +  sdk n/a
>  Load command 10
>cmd LC_SOURCE_VERSION
>cmdsize 16

Go figure.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 122218] After Update to 6.1.4 on macOS fonts are blurred on retina display (xcode 10)

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--- Comment #166 from laur...@norbit.no ---
For me the last one that is not blurry is 
Version: 6.2.7.1
Build ID: 23edc44b61b830b7d749943e020e96f5a7df63bf

on macOS 10.14.6

Note that there seems to be some rendering (==blurriness) differences between
when using an external 2560x1440 monitor or just the internal 2880x1800 /2
(retina 1440x900 mode) screen - depending on whether the external monitor is
connected when LO is started.

I don't know if that is a confounding factor in finding the root cause (and
reproducibility) of this bug.

Note that using an external monitor causes the GFX to switch from Intel to
external GPU due to the routing of USB-C Alt mode (DisplayPort over USB-C).
This will be different if the computer does not have a dedicated GPU.

For me version 6.2.8.x renders differently (== more blurry) than 6.2.7.1

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--- Comment #165 from xe...@telesat.com.pl ---
I can confirm that last working properly (NOT affected by this bug) version is
6.2.8.2, downloaded from here:

https://www.libreoffice.org/donate/dl/mac-x86_64/6.2.8/en-GB/LibreOffice_6.2.8_MacOS_x86-64.dmg

Version: 6.2.8.2
Build ID: f82ddfca21ebc1e222a662a32b25c0c9d20169ee
CPU threads: 8; OS: Mac OS X 10.14.6; UI render: default; VCL: osx; 
Locale: en-US (en_PL.UTF-8); UI-Language: en-US
Calc: threaded

After downgrading from any recent version to this one, fonts are not blurred.

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--- Comment #164 from xe...@telesat.com.pl ---
7.0.0.0-alpha0 builds are still affected, too:

Version: 7.0.0.0.alpha0+
Build ID: 5d00a1c9c6e85f3d7a3e05ab485da79980c38d44
CPU threads: 8; OS: Mac OS X 10.14.6; UI render: default; VCL: osx; 
Locale: en-US (en_PL.UTF-8); UI-Language: en-US
Calc: threaded

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--- Comment #163 from xe...@telesat.com.pl ---
MacOS X 10.14.6 Mojave,
both 6.4.0.3 & 6.4.1.1 (downloaded directly from your website) are affected by
this bug.
Even fields in spreadsheets look awful and text is hard to read.
I haven't experienced it in older 6.2.x builds.

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--- Comment #162 from Jan Iversen  ---
I can reproduce this problem with Libreoffice 6.4.0 and Mac OS Catalina 10.15.3
on a MacBook Pro 13 2019. Fonts are blurry, wether I use an external display
with FullHD or the internal retina-display. A patch would be highly
appreciated.

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--- Comment #161 from Wim M  ---
(In reply to G from comment #160)
> Created attachment 157702 [details]
> LibreOffice can't be opened
> 
> Downloaded from the given Link, but still can't run it.

As stated in comment #159: you can run such files if you right-click the file,
or ctrl-click or hold two fingers on your trackpad when you click it. It will
then show you a slightly different dialog where one of the options is to open
the app anyway. Once you do that, LO 6.2.8 runs fine on Catalina.

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--- Comment #160 from G  ---
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LibreOffice can't be opened

Downloaded from the given Link, but still can't run it.

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--- Comment #159 from w...@sorha-consulting.be ---
(In reply to G from comment #155)
> Had Libreoffice 6.2.8.2 up to Yesterday. All Fonts and looked good. I mostly
> use Calc
> Since updated to 6.3.4, the Fonts of any written text are Blurry. Even when
> you have a Drop down list, the First Item looks Good, but the rest on the
> drop down list looks blurry. Example, you select the "Fonts" drop down list,
> and the one that is showing on the menu looks good, but the rest that are in
> the drop down look blurry as the text in written in the page. 
> When selecting text in a spreadsheet cell, text becomes sharp. As soon as go
> to a different cell, the cell previously being edited gets blurry again.
> On version 6.4 Fonts are Blurry too.
> Even on the "About LibreOffice" the main text is blurry, but the menues and
> titles are sharp.
> 
> On the comments somebody said that this Blurrines doen't make LibreOffice
> Unnusable, but when you work with it every day, it makes really but really
> hard to work on. Not Unusable but I really don't like to work on it. I even
> thought about buying MS Office to keep working on my Calc/Excel sheet.
> Maybe when you see the screen shot, the text doesn't look so bad, but when
> you are working on a Document, with all the text being Blurry, is Very Very
> hard to work.
> I don't know if is the API/XCode/SDK or something else, but is hard to look
> at.
> As I don't have the original download of the 6.2.8.2 (deleted the file long
> time ago), I can't reinstall it, MacOS doesn't let me run it because is not
> signed/verifiable or else, don't know.
> 
> Screen shots taken on 2020/02/04 and 05
> Running on a MacBook Pro 2015, OSX 10.15.3, LibreOffice 6.3.4.2

You can download it from here 
https://www.libreoffice.org/download/download/?type=mac-x86_64=6.2.8=en

After having installed it, goto /Applications and right-click on
LibreOffice.app and select "Open" (right-click allows to open unsigned
applications)

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Version|6.3.4.2 release |6.1.4.2 release

--- Comment #158 from G  ---
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Blurry text on About LibreOffice

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Row 8 has text previously writen and Row 9 is being edited/selected

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Drop down list first item sharp and the rest is blurry

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 Status|NEW |UNCONFIRMED
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--- Comment #155 from G  ---
Had Libreoffice 6.2.8.2 up to Yesterday. All Fonts and looked good. I mostly
use Calc
Since updated to 6.3.4, the Fonts of any written text are Blurry. Even when you
have a Drop down list, the First Item looks Good, but the rest on the drop down
list looks blurry. Example, you select the "Fonts" drop down list, and the one
that is showing on the menu looks good, but the rest that are in the drop down
look blurry as the text in written in the page. 
When selecting text in a spreadsheet cell, text becomes sharp. As soon as go to
a different cell, the cell previously being edited gets blurry again.
On version 6.4 Fonts are Blurry too.
Even on the "About LibreOffice" the main text is blurry, but the menues and
titles are sharp.

On the comments somebody said that this Blurrines doen't make LibreOffice
Unnusable, but when you work with it every day, it makes really but really hard
to work on. Not Unusable but I really don't like to work on it. I even thought
about buying MS Office to keep working on my Calc/Excel sheet.
Maybe when you see the screen shot, the text doesn't look so bad, but when you
are working on a Document, with all the text being Blurry, is Very Very hard to
work.
I don't know if is the API/XCode/SDK or something else, but is hard to look at.
As I don't have the original download of the 6.2.8.2 (deleted the file long
time ago), I can't reinstall it, MacOS doesn't let me run it because is not
signed/verifiable or else, don't know.

Screen shots taken on 2020/02/04 and 05
Running on a MacBook Pro 2015, OSX 10.15.3, LibreOffice 6.3.4.2

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--- Comment #154 from Arvid  ---
On a late 2019 Macbook Pro 16" with macOS 10.15.3:

LibreOiffceDev 7.0.0 alpha from

https://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/master/MacOSX-x86_64@tb81-TDF/2020-01-30_05.11.46/LibreOfficeDev_7.0.0.0.alpha0_MacOS_x86-64.dmg

and LibreOiffce 6.3.3002 both have blurry (non-retina/non-hiDPI) fonts in
writer on the computer's built-in retina display.

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--- Comment #153 from majormahonia  ---
Libreoffice 6.4 is blurry on Macbook 12 2006 running macOS Catalina (10.15.2)

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--- Comment #152 from brettjral...@gmail.com ---
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Fuzzy display on 2019 iMac 5K (Retina Display), macOS 10.15.3, LO 6.4.0.3

I am suffering from this as well, 2019 5K iMac (Retina Display), fuzzy text
rendering in LibreOffice 6.4.0.3, macOS 10.5.3 Catalina.

I turned on OpenGL rendering "for all rendering" and it made no difference.

What would be helpful to submit in this bug report?

Version: 6.4.0.3
Build ID: b0a288ab3d2d4774cb44b62f04d5d28733ac6df8
CPU threads: 6; OS: Mac OS X 10.15.3; UI render: GL; VCL: osx; 
Locale: en-CA (en_CA.UTF-8); UI-Language: en-US
Calc: threaded

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--- Comment #151 from majormahonia  ---
Libreoffice 6.4 is blurry on macOS Mojave 10.14.6

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--- Comment #150 from eisa01  ---
Created attachment 157485
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=157485=edit
LO Vanilla 6.2.6.2 vs 6.5 Nighly

(In reply to eisa01 from comment #147)
> Have anyone verified the proposed fix in comment 114?
> 
> I tried compiling the nightly with LODE, but got a compilation error
> 
> It would be important to have this fix in place for 6.4, as the last working
> version for a majority of Mac users (6.2) will become unsupported?

Got it working using make build-nocheck

LO is now rendering crisp

Can we have the release versions built with the 10.13 SDK?

Blurry fonts are not only annoying, but an ergonomic issue that puts extra
strain on your eyes

Version: 6.5.0.0.alpha0+
Build ID: 6095612850973388ba5b121b34d02292a2548e7d
CPU threads: 4; OS: Mac OS X 10.14.6; UI render: default; VCL: osx; 
Locale: en-US (en_US.UTF-8); UI-Language: en-US
Calc: threaded

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--- Comment #149 from Joop Lanting  ---
Some people would have no problem with blurry fonts? Bad argument:
some people could live with Microsoft Word and forget about LibreOffice 
;JOOP!

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--- Comment #148 from Wim M  ---
Just installed LibreOffice 6.4.0.3 (RC3) on my retina Macbook Pro (2015)
running macOS Catalina (10.15.2). Fonts in the UI (dialogue boxes, dropdown
menus) are rendered sharply, but the text in Writer is still blurry, similar to
what was described in comment #69.

I noticed that the bug reappeared in the most pressing bugs list in the ESC
minutes. Earlier comments here suggest that there may be a fix for the 6.5..
branch. If there are, any chance that it can be backported into the 6.4..
branch? It would be a shame if Mac retina users have to wait until 6.5 before
we can have sharp fonts again. It appears also from the earlier comments that
some people can live with blurry fonts while others cannot. I belong to the
latter camp so I have reverted back to 6.2.8 for the time being. Thank you to
everyone who has put time into fixing this so far.

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--- Comment #147 from eisa01  ---
Have anyone verified the proposed fix in comment 114?

I tried compiling the nightly with LODE, but got a compilation error

It would be important to have this fix in place for 6.4, as the last working
version for a majority of Mac users (6.2) will become unsupported?

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--- Comment #145 from Emmeran Seehuber  ---
I also tried to look into it. (master on MacOS 10.15.2 with SDK 10.15)

AquaSalGraphics::CheckContext(): The backingScaleFactor of the window is
correct (2.0 for Retina) and so is the size of the CGLayer used as draw buffer
for the window (i.e. twice the window width x height). That looks all fine.

For me it seems something gets into a broken state in the CGContextRef while
painting the document content. Because not only the text but also all lines are
blurred. 

This is just guessing, but maybe a scale with a factor other than 2 or
something like this? It would have to be something affected at compile time,
i.e. a constant of the SDK headers which changed between SDK 10.12 and 10.13.
Or a helper function in a SDK library.

The strange thing is, the print preview of Calc looks fine, i.e. not blurry,
everything sharp. The print preview of Writer on the other side is blurry. I
have this effect both with my master build and the official 6.3.4.2 build.

So the print preview of Calc does something different than the rest, because it
seems the CGContextRef is not getting in this bogus blurry state. 

Any idea how to investigate this future? (I'm new to the LibreOffice code base;
Pointers are welcome)

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--- Comment #144 from Thorsten Wagner  ---
Results of my investigantions are as follows:

SDK 10.12 and earlier: build of LO 6.x broken due to SDK API changes
SDK 10.13: sharp text on retina displays
SDK 10.14: blurry text on retina displays
SDK 10.15: blurry text on retina displays

I am currently work around this issue using --with-macosx-sdk=10.13. This can
be archived with Xcode 11 by installing SDK 10.13 side by side in platform
specific developer directory within Xcode.app.

I did not investigate build code to choose SDK release. Choosing the lowest
(oldest) SDK release number was my understanding from help text given by
configure. If it works different and highest (newest) SDK release number is
choosen, blurry text is the result, e.g. with Xcode 11 (see above).

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--- Comment #143 from Mike Kaganski  ---
(In reply to Thorsten Wagner from comment #141)
> SDK 10.13 seems to be the only SDK to build LO with sharp text on retina
> displays. Sharp text is back again on macOS Mojave with SDK 10.13 too.

Do you mean that later SDK versions produce blurry display? I'm asking because
I got this impression from your message, and from overall discussion, but
generally your message proceeds to mainly discuss non-applicativity of 10.12,
so I guessed I'd better ask.

> Minimum SDK release is currently 10.12. Due to API changes between SDK 10.12
> and 10.13 which have been incorporated in LO code already, LO cannot be
> build with SDK 10.12.
> 
> Mimimum SDK release should be increased to 10.13.

https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/86216

> Furthermore LO should be
> build with SDK 10.13 only until issue is fixed (maybe an issue of Apple
> within Carbon code).

Created https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/86218 for you, with which you
could come to ESC to discuss this (disclaimer: I don't have a mac). Please do.

> SDK with lowest (oldest) release is is choosen by LO build scripts. Unitl
> minimum SDK release has not been increased to 10.13, a lower (older) release
> than 10.13 should not be installed side by side.

This looks incorrect: the changes I mentioned above show that the check order
was from latest to oldest...

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--- Comment #142 from strongleg <153166...@qq.com> ---
I have encounter this issue too, here is my report:

1. iMac Retina 5K 27-inch 2017, macOS Mojave
2. I found this issue with LibreOffice 5.x, sorry I forget
3. After I update to LibreOffice 6.2.8.2, this issue disappear for one or two
days, font became sharp and clear. But during this time, the Chinese Input
Method can't display hint box in LibreOffice, so I have to guess what to type.
Meanwhile the Chinese Input Method and its hint box works fine in all other
softwares.
4. Today the font becomes blurred again, but the hint box issue of the Chinese
input method disappear. I dont't know I should feel lucky or sad. :-(

hope this is helpfull.

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--- Comment #141 from Thorsten Wagner  ---
SDK 10.13 seems to be the only SDK to build LO with sharp text on retina
displays. Sharp text is back again on macOS Mojave with SDK 10.13 too.

Minimum SDK release is currently 10.12. Due to API changes between SDK 10.12
and 10.13 which have been incorporated in LO code already, LO cannot be build
with SDK 10.12.

Mimimum SDK release should be increased to 10.13. Furthermore LO should be
build with SDK 10.13 only until issue is fixed (maybe an issue of Apple within
Carbon code).

Although Xcode ships with a current release of the SDK, it is possible to
install additional SDKs here:

/Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Platforms/MacOSX.platform/Developer/SDKs

Additional SDKs can be extracted from ealier Xcode releases, which are all
downloadable from Apple.

SDK with lowest (oldest) release is is choosen by LO build scripts. Unitl
minimum SDK release has not been increased to 10.13, a lower (older) release
than 10.13 should not be installed side by side.

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--- Comment #139 from nabili  ---
does this bug report is also about blurry icons of the toolbar, or does it only
concerns blurry fonts as suggested on it's title?

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--- Comment #138 from majormahonia  ---
Confirming that 6.5.0.0 from 31 December 2019 tested on Macbook 12 running
Mojave 10.14.6 still has blurry fonts

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--- Comment #137 from bunkem  ---
I can confirm that 6.5alpha 2019-12-31 still has the problems.

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Comparison of 6.1.6.3 and 6.5.0.0 2019-12-30 build (400% - Macbook Air 2018)

Confirmation that the problem still exists in latest nightly build

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Comparison of 6.1.6.3 and 6.5.0.0 2019-12-30 build (400%)

Confirmation that the problem still exists in latest nightly build (Macbook Air
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--- Comment #134 from Roger Paradise  ---
I installed the version from the 6.5.0.0 alpha link just provided. I'm still
seeing the problem. (MacBook Pro 2014)

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--- Comment #133 from Sebastian Djupsjöbacka  ---
Daily build 2019-12-30 works well, still no blur. This time the report also
contains the exact download link as requested.

Version: 6.5.0.0.alpha0+
Build ID: e258dcb9134be64a826547407de3482e5bb2a80b
CPU threads: 2; OS: Mac OS X 10.13.6; UI render: default; VCL: osx; 
Locale: en-US (en_FI.UTF-8); UI-Language: en-US
Calc: threaded

Download link:
https://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/master/MacOSX-x86_64@tb81-TDF/2019-12-30_05.29.53/LibreOfficeDev_6.5.0.0.alpha0_MacOS_x86-64.dmg

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--- Comment #132 from Mike Kaganski  ---
The reports about 6.5 daily builds alternate stating "solved" vs "not solved".
It might depend on where (on which build box) the build was created; so please
state exact download link when reporting if a build worked or not worked for
you. Thanks!

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--- Comment #131 from Sebastian Djupsjöbacka  ---
Just wanted to report that after having the blurry font problem with all
versions after than 6.2.7.1, the nightly builds of 6.5a seem to solve the
problem for me. No blur in Writer nor Calc with this build on an 27" iMac Late
2009.

Version: 6.5.0.0.alpha0+
Build ID: e22a3f596ce50b5166063e217d96ef674a54d380
CPU threads: 2; OS: Mac OS X 10.13.6; UI render: default; VCL: osx; 
Locale: en-US (en_FI.UTF-8); UI-Language: en-US
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--- Comment #130 from Maciej Tarmas  ---
Everyone's confirming, nobody at LO Foundation gives a crap. All you Mac users
can now just move along and find another office app, because as you can see,
there's noone to fix your port and noone cares.

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--- Comment #129 from muhadi  ---
(In reply to Kithairon from comment #128)
> Just tried out on 6.5.0.0.alpha0+.  Unfortunately, the issue persists in
> build 6.5: the fonts are still badly blurry (macOS 10.14.6 / MacBoook Pro
> Retina [2015] + Dell Monitor).
> LibreOffice 6.2.8.2 is the last version still ok; every build since is
> affected.

Confirming the same symptoms (macOS 10.15.2 / MacBook Air 2019)

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--- Comment #128 from Kithairon  ---
Just tried out on 6.5.0.0.alpha0+.  Unfortunately, the issue persists in build
6.5: the fonts are still badly blurry (macOS 10.14.6 / MacBoook Pro Retina
[2015] + Dell Monitor).
LibreOffice 6.2.8.2 is the last version still ok; every build since is
affected.

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--- Comment #127 from Roger Paradise  ---
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Comparison of 6.2.8.2 and 6.4.0.1 on MacBook Pro 2014.

Screenshot showing comparison of 6.2.8.2 and 6.4.0.1 on MacBook Pro 2014. Still
seeing the bug.

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--- Comment #125 from Aron Budea  ---
(In reply to steve -_- from comment #119)
> Once identified what caused the much improved situation I think this can be
> closed and remaining issues should be filed as new bugs as those need
> different fixes. But let's wait what QA / dev department has to say about
> this.
I'd assume systems that can be used to reproduce this bug are extremely scarce
in the QA / dev department.

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--- Comment #124 from w...@sorha-consulting.be ---
Created attachment 156671
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Screenshot of LO BASE main window

Version: 6.5.0.0.alpha0+
Build ID: 491e8f60bf7f216a3bb3092b22334924b6c9aee1

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--- Comment #123 from w...@sorha-consulting.be ---
Having checked version 6.5.0.0.alpha0+ (Build ID:
491e8f60bf7f216a3bb3092b22334924b6c9aee1) on MacBook Pro 13 Retina, Mac OSX
10.14.6, here is the situation: on a form build with LO Base (which is
basically a Writer doc, AFAIK), there is a difference when "Design" mode is
switched ON or OFF.

Design mode ON: Button text is blurred, text written in the form is blurred 
Design mode OFF: Button text seems to be perfectly displayed, text written in
the form still blurred 

Hope this helps.

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Screenshot of LO BASE form, design mode ON

Design mode ON

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--- Comment #120 from Wolfgang Glas  ---
If this issue is fixed LO 6.5, please provide a backport to LO 6.4 or even
better LO 6.3

TIA, Wolfgang Glas

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--- Comment #119 from steve -_-  ---
Recreated the "Writer with Liberation Serif" screenshot using LO 6.5 on macOS
10.14.6.

Once identified what caused the much improved situation I think this can be
closed and remaining issues should be filed as new bugs as those need different
fixes. But let's wait what QA / dev department has to say about this.

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Writer with Liberation Serif, recreated w 6.5 for comparison

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--- Comment #117 from bunkem  ---
Not sure what you guys are seeing but the 6.5alpha that I downloaded still has
fuzzy text in the calc sheet.

I've tried various fonts but it still looks like crap.

Same with the text in Writer.

OK a bit better because all the icons and text in formula bar are OK but still
no prize.

15" MBP Retina

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--- Comment #116 from solarcolom...@icloud.com ---
(In reply to eisa01 from comment #114)
> (In reply to eisa01 from comment #113)
> > Yup, it's now crisp again, apart from the lower bar where e.g., "Sum" and so
> > on is displayed in Calc (only opened Calc)
> Sorry spoke to fast, the cell-contents are not crisp, but the rest of the UI
> in Calc is

Not a single problem here (MacBook Pro Retina) with the display quality.
Actually, font rendering looks far better (Thunderbolt display too) than in any
previous versions).

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--- Comment #115 from solarcolom...@icloud.com ---
Yes, LO. You made me look a bit stupid. And I am quite glad. 6.5 is better than
any previous version (for Osx). I run a couple of old simulations (which are
not possible to carry out with excel...) without any issues. Muchas Gracias
from Colombia. May god and such do something good for you ;)

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--- Comment #114 from eisa01  ---
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> Yup, it's now crisp again, apart from the lower bar where e.g., "Sum" and so
> on is displayed in Calc (only opened Calc)
Sorry spoke to fast, the cell-contents are not crisp, but the rest of the UI in
Calc is

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--- Comment #113 from eisa01  ---
You can access the nightly builds here, I downloaded the current build
(December 17)

https://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/master/MacOSX-x86_64@tb81-TDF/

Yup, it's now crisp again, apart from the lower bar where e.g., "Sum" and so on
is displayed in Calc (only opened Calc)

Version: 6.5.0.0.alpha0+
Build ID: 148ed6c2739ab8af88c0ac363f30f99f10bf7c1a
CPU threads: 4; OS: Mac OS X 10.14.6; UI render: default; VCL: osx; 
Locale: en-US (en_US.UTF-8); UI-Language: en-US
Calc: threaded

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Hi

I can't find version 6.5 in downloads.
Can you help telling me where to find version 6.5

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Hi
Hi
I can't find version 6.5 in downloads. 
Can you help telling me where to find version 6.6

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--- Comment #110 from solarcolom...@icloud.com ---
I gave 6.5... a chance: Crisp and clear. glad not to have to move to excel.

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--- Comment #109 from laur...@norbit.no ---
I would like to add that I really hope this gets fixed and if there is
somewhere I can contribute a few bucks to get this fixed, above my normal
yearly Document Foundation donations then let me know. 

As a freelancer I have "standardised" on LibreOffice as it is cross-platform,
and I have pushed clients and customers to move away from MS Office 365 and
towards LO for technical documentation. That a basic issue like text rendering
through standard API is not implemented is a big problem for use.

With age and decreasing eyesight text sharpness is very important for
accessibility - so if any of the younger programmers want to feel they are
contributing. they can very well consider this bug to be an accessibility one
as well - for the oft ignored and maligned "older people" demographic.

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Bug still present in 6.4.0.0.beta1, except for the About pane which appears as
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--- Comment #107 from solarcolom...@icloud.com ---
Since there is no progress on such an important issue for several years and
comments here show how little LO cares about MacOS - and more importantly
MacOS-Users, I'm moving back to MS Office. I don't believe in the "fuzzyness of
high resolution displays" as a new trend.

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--- Comment #106 from w...@rsb.at ---
@ Maciej Tarmas

>From what I can tell you:
MS Office reads LO files. There are some differences, nothing a smart person
can't cope with. LO excels Excel in data import and manipulation. There are
some features that I will miss, but mostly, the switch was worth my while.

As these people still wonder about XCode 10 instead of going with the current
XCode (11.3) and not reading the Apple documentation about Text rendering, I
see no solution soon.

I donated to LO regularly. Now this money goes to MS and I get 6 license for my
Macs, iPads and Phones. I couldn't care less.

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--- Comment #105 from Maciej Tarmas  ---
This bug has been reported almost a year ago.

A year has almost passed and what? Nothing.

Some speculation from the community, probably correct, that LO is using an
undocumented and depricated method of displaying text in the UI, not handled by
Xcode 10 (that is used to build LO on the Mac) or Xcode 11 (the current
version).

Has any LO dev chimed in on this issue? No. They don't give a flying crap about
Mac users.

There's nothing from anyone at LO about this 1 year old issue. I mean, how can
we Mac users trust a product that at this point feels like an abandoned Linux
fork that you devs don't give a shit about.

That's just pathetic. You might as well just stop releasing Mac versions.
They're automated builds anyway, aren't they, without any testing.

I'm really thinking of getting an MS Office license and forgetting about all
this crap.

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--- Comment #104 from w...@rsb.at ---
@ trainma...@gmail.com

Current version of XCode is Version 11.2.1 (11B500). Maybe you do not try to
fix an outdated issue with an outdated tool.

Even for a newbie to MacOS like myself (thanks to Ubuntu), I have learned
quickly that MacOS 10.14.x and following have a different rendering method.

I presume that you do not search in the right places. Apple offers a developer
site where text rendering is clearly documented including source code. You also
find a warning that using something else but Cocoa will produce unpredictable
results.

https://developer.apple.com/documentation/xcode_release_notes/xcode_11_release_notes
https://developer.apple.com/library/archive/documentation/TextFonts/Conceptual/CocoaTextArchitecture/FontHandling/FontHandling.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40009459-CH5-SW1

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--- Comment #103 from trainma...@gmail.com ---
The reason for the regression has been identified as changing from using XCode9
to XCode10 to build LibreOffice. Those versions built with 9 look fine, those
with 10 are blurry. As for what changed in XC10, that is well beyond my level,
and most of my searching gets results related to font display "within" the
XCode IDE, not for fonts displayed by apps "built with" Xcode's Command Line
Tools.

I did note back in comment 16 that in Calc, text rendering is great while new
text is being entered into a cell, but once the text is (I guess) handed over
to another portion for display once stored in the sheet, it then appears fuzzy.

The problem seems, from what I have found out, to stem from Xcode10 no longer
using/accepting sub-pixel antialiasing. Some reports have suggested changing
from sub-pixel to greyscale font smoothing as a fix. Again, I don't really know
where to even look, much less what to look for.

So, where to from here? Again, well beyond my knowledge. I've poked around in
the source, particularly core/vcl/osx, but I don't really know what to look
for, so it's largely unproductive on my part. Other apps have adapted, many of
which are also open source, so whether devs from those apps are able/willing to
assist I don't know, but I guess it would start by someone asking them.

And because Apple are implementing code signing etc, continuing to use Xcode9
appears not to be an option.

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--- Comment #102 from majormahonia  ---
(In reply to bunkem from comment #101)
> Till having blurry fonts in 6.4beta1
> Version: 6.4.0.0.beta1
> Build ID: 4d7e5b0c40ed843384704eca3ce21981d4e98920
> CPU threads: 8; OS: Mac OS X 10.14.6; UI render: default; VCL: osx; 
> Locale: en-CA (en_CA.UTF-8); UI-Language: en-US
> Calc: threaded
> 
> As far as I can tell, the last version that was OK in the release track was
> 6.2.8.
> 
> Last beta that was OK was 6.3.3beta1

So not only are the released versions broken, but now the beta versions have
also taken an unwelcome retrograde step. Whilst 6.3.3beta1 did not have blurry
fonts, a regression has taken place so that 6.4beta1 has blurry fonts.

Worryingly, according to the page header the developers have not yet assigned
anyone to this bug despite it being labelled as "highest critical importance",
let alone actually started to investigate the root cause, and there is no
evidence that anyone has started to fix it. In fact, we currently seem to be
going backward with the beta font performance taking a regressive step. 

Perhaps we need to highlight this bug to the very highest echelon of the Libre
Office management so that it will actually get fixed. Anyone know the email
address of Marina Latini?

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--- Comment #101 from bunkem  ---
Till having blurry fonts in 6.4beta1
Version: 6.4.0.0.beta1
Build ID: 4d7e5b0c40ed843384704eca3ce21981d4e98920
CPU threads: 8; OS: Mac OS X 10.14.6; UI render: default; VCL: osx; 
Locale: en-CA (en_CA.UTF-8); UI-Language: en-US
Calc: threaded

As far as I can tell, the last version that was OK in the release track was
6.2.8.

Last beta that was OK was 6.3.3beta1

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--- Comment #99 from muhadi  ---
(In reply to eisa01 from comment #95)
> Yeah, this is a _very_ bad bug, especially considering it's 7 years since
> Retina screens came out. Honestly, the newer builds should be taken down, or
> the download page need to be adjusted to point to the most recent working
> version.
> 
> Before it is fixed, and if you need to be on a more recent version,
> LibreOffice Vanilla in the App store is on version 6.2.6 and has Retina
> support (apart from the toolbar icons)
> 
> I don't know the price as I've already bought it, but I think it's 20-30 EUR
> 
> https://apps.apple.com/no/app/libreoffice-vanilla/id921923693?mt=12

But that particular version had Calc bugs that was fixed in 6.3.3 is there any
fixed version released yet?

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 122218] After Update to 6.1.4 on macOS fonts are blurred on retina display (xcode 10)

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--- Comment #97 from majormahonia  ---
(In reply to trainman75 from comment #96)
> In an effort to narrow down the issue, I have built 6.4 from source on
> Catalina with Xcode11. Text in documents etc is still blurry, but my
> observation is that something has changed along the way.
> Anything built on Xcode9 has clear text, as we know.
> 6.3/6.4 built on Xcode10, I noticed the About box text was also blurry.
> Now, my 6.4 build on Xcode11 has fuzzy text in docs, but the About box is
> now sharp.
> 
> Was anything changed recently that could have affected the About box but not
> in-document text rendering?

Thanks for your investigations, this is a useful insight. Let's hope that the
devs will action on it.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 122218] After Update to 6.1.4 on macOS fonts are blurred on retina display (xcode 10)

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--- Comment #96 from trainma...@gmail.com ---
In an effort to narrow down the issue, I have built 6.4 from source on Catalina
with Xcode11. Text in documents etc is still blurry, but my observation is that
something has changed along the way.
Anything built on Xcode9 has clear text, as we know.
6.3/6.4 built on Xcode10, I noticed the About box text was also blurry.
Now, my 6.4 build on Xcode11 has fuzzy text in docs, but the About box is now
sharp.

Was anything changed recently that could have affected the About box but not
in-document text rendering?

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 122218] After Update to 6.1.4 on macOS fonts are blurred on retina display (xcode 10)

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--- Comment #95 from eisa01  ---
Yeah, this is a _very_ bad bug, especially considering it's 7 years since
Retina screens came out. Honestly, the newer builds should be taken down, or
the download page need to be adjusted to point to the most recent working
version.

Before it is fixed, and if you need to be on a more recent version, LibreOffice
Vanilla in the App store is on version 6.2.6 and has Retina support (apart from
the toolbar icons)

I don't know the price as I've already bought it, but I think it's 20-30 EUR

https://apps.apple.com/no/app/libreoffice-vanilla/id921923693?mt=12

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 122218] After Update to 6.1.4 on macOS fonts are blurred on retina display (xcode 10)

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--- Comment #94 from majormahonia  ---
Good oberservations. Agreed with you sentiments, let us hope that the
developers can focus on getting this fixed expeditiously.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 122218] After Update to 6.1.4 on macOS fonts are blurred on retina display (xcode 10)

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--- Comment #93 from Frank Fuchs  ---
I do not know if it helps:
While you are editing a cell in Calc, the fonts in this particular cell are not
blurred. Once you stop editing, they are blurred, again.

Unbelievable, that this bug is not treated as a showstopper - absolutely no new
release until it is solved.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 122218] After Update to 6.1.4 on macOS fonts are blurred on retina display (xcode 10)

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Alex Thurgood  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||riccardo.pa...@unibo.it

--- Comment #92 from Alex Thurgood  ---
*** Bug 128636 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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--- Comment #91 from majormahonia  ---
macOS updated to Mojave 10.14.6 Update, but Libreoffice fonts are still blurry

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 122218] After Update to 6.1.4 on macOS fonts are blurred on retina display (xcode 10)

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--- Comment #90 from majormahonia  ---
(In reply to Olivier Croquette from comment #87)
> Also got hit by this bug after updating from 5.x to 6.3.2.2 on Mojave. Used
> font: "Liberation Sans" in Calc. Even the text in the "About" dialog is
> affected.
> 
> I cannot confirm the reports of w...@rsb.at and majormahonia. 6.2.8.2 works
> fine for me on Mojave and is an acceptable workaround for now.
> 
> Still, this kind of regression is very unfortunate when users are actively
> encouraged to update. It took me a few minutes to update, 10 minutes to
> troubleshoot and find this ticket, and 5 more to create an account and write
> this, and a few more minutes to downgrade. I hope that the latest and
> greatest version gets fixed soon.

agreed, lets hope that this gets fixed soon

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 122218] After Update to 6.1.4 on macOS fonts are blurred on retina display (xcode 10)

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--- Comment #89 from w...@rsb.at ---
@Olivier Croquette

I use 10.15.1 (Catalina) and 6.2.8.x unfortunately has the issue. Not in all
places but certainly in documents, spreadsheets and impress presentations
documents (didn't test draw, math and database).

I tested documents using LOs standard fonts (Liberation Sans/Serif) as well as
Macs standard fonts Helvetica Neue and Times New Roman.

In all cases, there is a shadow around the letters.

I can confirm that Microsoft Office products reproduce these fonts clear and
sharp (They have other, even more serious issues, but that's not relevant for
this fact)

Just a final note on the supposed issues with XCode:

XCode gets updated every 3 months or so (currently being 11.2 (11B52)).

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 122218] After Update to 6.1.4 on macOS fonts are blurred on retina display (xcode 10)

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--- Comment #88 from Maciej Tarmas  ---
(In reply to Olivier Croquette from comment #87)
> I hope that the latest and
> greatest version gets fixed soon.

It won't. Nobody at The Document Foundation gives a crap about the Mac port of
Libre Office.

This bug was reported almost a year ago. As I understand it, the fix is to
build the binaries with a newer version of Xcode, but it seems that the devs
can't be bothered with stuff like that.

Sometimes I wish OpenOffice was never forked and stayed with Oracle. They're
doing a great job with VirtualBox on the Mac. Sigh.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 122218] After Update to 6.1.4 on macOS fonts are blurred on retina display (xcode 10)

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--- Comment #87 from Olivier Croquette  ---
Also got hit by this bug after updating from 5.x to 6.3.2.2 on Mojave. Used
font: "Liberation Sans" in Calc. Even the text in the "About" dialog is
affected.

I cannot confirm the reports of w...@rsb.at and majormahonia. 6.2.8.2 works fine
for me on Mojave and is an acceptable workaround for now.

Still, this kind of regression is very unfortunate when users are actively
encouraged to update. It took me a few minutes to update, 10 minutes to
troubleshoot and find this ticket, and 5 more to create an account and write
this, and a few more minutes to downgrade. I hope that the latest and greatest
version gets fixed soon.

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--- Comment #86 from majormahonia  ---
Thanks for sharing this potentially interesting clue toward solving this
longstanding and critical bug.

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--- Comment #85 from Brandon  ---
Thinking there might be a difference between torrented and direct-downloaded
versions, I just tried running a direct-downloaded 6.3.3, but that didn't fix
it.

I don't know why running 6.2.7.1 seems to have "fixed" the blurriness in 6.2.8
(which I had renamed to LibreOffice6.2.8.app) but can't get 6.3.3 fixed.

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--- Comment #84 from Brandon  ---
Now this is interesting.  Had this problem on a 2019 iMac, macOS 10.4.6, in
both LO 6.3.3 and 6.2.8, which I had downloaded by torrent.  Then I went to the
archive, installed 6.2.7.1, and saw no blurriness.  

Reran 6.2.8, and macOS prompted that as a downloaded app, it needed to be
verified.  Launched a calc doc, and no blurriness.

Reran 6.3.3, didn't get the verification prompt, and still blurry.

Happy to provide other info.

I will say this:  this bug may have started for me when I downloaded LO on my
2012 non-retina MacBook Pro, and then copied it over to my retina iMac.  I
think this might have something to do with macOS "verifying" newly downloaded
apps?

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--- Comment #83 from majormahonia  ---
After updating to 6.3.3 the fonts are still blurry.

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--- Comment #82 from Mike Newman  ---
The bug doesn't affect our MBA but makes documents almost unreadable on my 2017
iMac. In the attachment "Fuzzy: Open Office vs Libre Office" the same Writer
document is shown in both Open Office and LibreOffice.

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--- Comment #81 from Mike Newman  ---
Created attachment 155389
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=155389=edit
Fuzzy: Open Office vs Libre Office

Sceenshot showing the same Writer document open in both LibreOffice and
OpenOffice

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