[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 111627] Cursor keys scroll document in Calc instead of moving
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=111627 --- Comment #24 from Karsten --- O.K. It's your decision to solve this problem in bug 112876. This will be a solution and the problem is not ignored. Thanks for your work at Libreoffice! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 111627] Cursor keys scroll document in Calc instead of moving
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=111627 Xisco Faulí changed: What|Removed |Added Status|REOPENED|RESOLVED Resolution|--- |NOTABUG --- Comment #23 from Xisco Faulí --- > The additional functionality is fine, but there should be a possibility to > switch the scroll behaviour if the scroll lock key is not supported. We have bug 112876 for that. Closing as RESOLVED NOTABUG as Heiko has already done -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 111627] Cursor keys scroll document in Calc instead of moving
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=111627 --- Comment #22 from Heiko Tietze --- (In reply to Karsten from comment #21) > Is there any more to say? Thanks for the perfect summary. I closed the issue as NOB (and still think it's the only resolution here) because * scroll lock is standard behavior * needed for accessibility * availability of the key should be fixed by the distribution An option is acceptable (bug 112876), and we could predefine it with on/off depending on whether scroll lock is available. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 111627] Cursor keys scroll document in Calc instead of moving
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=111627 --- Comment #21 from Karsten --- I did not have a problem in Writer or Draw. Only in Calc i could suddenly not navigate to the cells with the cursor keys anymore. That's the reason i opened this bug - everything was fine before for years and then this problem occurs. This functionality was added to Libreoffice - that's a good idea. The problem is that this functionality can only be controlled with the scroll lock key. When this key is not working (because the desktop system does not support it correct) then the behaviour can't be controlled. In my case the cursor keys are not working as usual in the past. So from the point of view of the user the software is not working any more as before (-> bug). The additional functionality is fine, but there should be a possibility to switch the scroll behaviour if the scroll lock key is not supported. This can be done with a global configuration as suggested in bug 112876, or in a more convenient way in the menu or button like other functionalities. Is there any more to say? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 111627] Cursor keys scroll document in Calc instead of moving
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=111627 --- Comment #20 from Heiko Tietze --- (In reply to Karsten from comment #19) > Because the scroll lock functionality should not be disabled. > This new functionality shall keep in function, but in a compatible way for > all systems. Please elaborate. Do you mean no scrolling when locked in Calc but in Writer/Draw? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 111627] Cursor keys scroll document in Calc instead of moving
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=111627 --- Comment #19 from Karsten --- (In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #18) > (In reply to Karsten from comment #17) > > This is not the problem - the problem is that this key is not supported for > > this function any more, specially in KDE. > > So why don't you ask on the KDE bugtracker? (Checked it right now: > Calligrasheets doesn't respect scroll lock) As you can see - why are you using a functionality that does not work everywhere? Is Libreoffice only designed to work on special OS? > > > Because this functionality is not given in all cases, there should be a > > workaround to activate the functionality in an alternative way. > > Right, that's bug 112876. And what do you expect from this issue? Because the scroll lock functionality should not be disabled. This new functionality shall keep in function, but in a compatible way for all systems. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 111627] Cursor keys scroll document in Calc instead of moving
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=111627 --- Comment #18 from Heiko Tietze --- (In reply to Karsten from comment #17) > This is not the problem - the problem is that this key is not supported for > this function any more, specially in KDE. So why don't you ask on the KDE bugtracker? (Checked it right now: Calligrasheets doesn't respect scroll lock) > Because this functionality is not given in all cases, there should be a > workaround to activate the functionality in an alternative way. Right, that's bug 112876. And what do you expect from this issue? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 111627] Cursor keys scroll document in Calc instead of moving
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=111627 Karsten changed: What|Removed |Added Status|RESOLVED|REOPENED Resolution|NOTABUG |--- Ever confirmed|0 |1 --- Comment #17 from Karsten --- It seems that you want to misunderstand me. The function of the cursor keys have been altered by the use of the scroll lock key. This is not the problem - the problem is that this key is not supported for this function any more, specially in KDE. So you can see this not as bug, but then please see it as a bad design, because you expect a normal functionality of the scroll lock key in every OS and desktop system. Because this functionality is not given in all cases, there should be a workaround to activate the functionality in an alternative way. The best way is an additional menu entry. Thank you for understanding. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 111627] Cursor keys scroll document in Calc instead of moving
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=111627 Heiko Tietze changed: What|Removed |Added Keywords|needsUXEval |accessibility Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |tietze.he...@gmail.com |.freedesktop.org| Resolution|--- |NOTABUG --- Comment #16 from Heiko Tietze --- To summarize: With Scoll Lock enabled you scroll but expect the same behavior as before (navigate to cells)? Sounds not like a bug since it's the defined behavior of scroll lock. It's very useful for accessibility. So a NOTABUG from my side. The ask.libo reference is a clear statement and bug 112876 a good compromise. The question how to toggle the scroll lock is NOTOURBUG. There are plenty of resources how to get the key back, for instance here https://superuser.com/questions/677003/scroll-lock-key-not-working-on-fedora-kde -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 111627] Cursor keys scroll document in Calc instead of moving
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=111627 Buovjaga changed: What|Removed |Added Keywords||needsUXEval CC||libreoffice-ux-advise@lists ||.freedesktop.org --- Comment #15 from Buovjaga --- (In reply to m.a.riosv from comment #11) > Main spreadsheet programs use it from ever, at least in 1982 Lotus 123 used > it so. > LibreOffice can't limit their usability because others use a keystroke in, > for me, not the right way. > > IMHO the only possible solution it's @Aron's comment#6, having an option to > disable their use. > https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=112876 Summoning the gods of UX -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 111627] Cursor keys scroll document in Calc instead of moving
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=111627 --- Comment #14 from Karsten --- Sorry - i didn't want to confirm it. I want a solution for the problem. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 111627] Cursor keys scroll document in Calc instead of moving
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=111627 Xisco Faulí changed: What|Removed |Added Status|REOPENED|UNCONFIRMED CC||xiscofa...@libreoffice.org Ever confirmed|1 |0 --- Comment #13 from Xisco Faulí --- You can't confirm your own bugs. Moving it back to UNCONFIRMED until someone else confirms it. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 111627] Cursor keys scroll document in Calc instead of moving
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=111627 Karsten changed: What|Removed |Added Status|RESOLVED|REOPENED Resolution|NOTABUG |--- --- Comment #12 from Karsten --- This is a bug in the meaning of disturbing normal functionality. First we are on the edge to 2018 and not in the year 1982 anymore! In the beginning this keys really have a meaning - today they are not supported correct as you can see! As i have written - don't remove anything - just give this functions another key !? Why it must be a key that make problems with some OS? Why not anything else - ALT + Shift + M or any other free combination? It would be more perfect to add another menu entry. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 111627] Cursor keys scroll document in Calc instead of moving
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=111627 m.a.riosv changed: What|Removed |Added Status|REOPENED|RESOLVED Resolution|--- |NOTABUG --- Comment #11 from m.a.riosv --- Main spreadsheet programs use it from ever, at least in 1982 Lotus 123 used it so. LibreOffice can't limit their usability because others use a keystroke in, for me, not the right way. IMHO the only possible solution it's @Aron's comment#6, having an option to disable their use. https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=112876 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 111627] Cursor keys scroll document in Calc instead of moving
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=111627 --- Comment #10 from Karsten --- It's a problem of LibreOffice because 1. This problem does not exist in LibreOffice before. 2. A key for a new function is used that makes problems. So please offer a solution. Thank you! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 111627] Cursor keys scroll document in Calc instead of moving
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=111627 --- Comment #9 from m.a.riosv --- Why a LibreOffice bug? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scroll_lock#Window_scrolling -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 111627] Cursor keys scroll document in Calc instead of moving
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=111627 Norbert X changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEEDINFO|REOPENED --- Comment #8 from Norbert X --- I'm using Ubuntu 16.04.3 MATE with LibreOffice from PPA (ppa:libreoffice/libreoffice-5-4 ) with Marco (Software compositor) window manager. I have configured two input languages - English and Russian; I switch them with , ScrollLock LED indicates second (Russian) layout. So in /etc/default/keyboard I have # KEYBOARD CONFIGURATION FILE # Consult the keyboard(5) manual page. XKBMODEL="pc105" XKBLAYOUT="us,ru" XKBVARIANT="," XKBOPTIONS="grp:alt_shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll" BACKSPACE="guess" LibreOffice Calc works very strange. Its version is version is Version: 5.4.2.2 Build ID: 1:5.4.2~rc2-0ubuntu0.16.04.1~lo1 CPU threads: 2; OS: Linux 4.4; UI render: default; VCL: gtk2; Locale: en-US (en_US.UTF-8); Calc: group $ apt-cache policy libreoffice-calc libreoffice-calc: Installed: 1:5.4.2~rc2-0ubuntu0.16.04.1~lo1 Candidate: 1:5.4.2~rc2-0ubuntu0.16.04.1~lo1 Version table: *** 1:5.4.2~rc2-0ubuntu0.16.04.1~lo1 500 500 http://ppa.launchpad.net/libreoffice/libreoffice-5-4/ubuntu xenial/main i386 Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status 1:5.1.6~rc2-0ubuntu1~xenial2 500 500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-updates/main i386 Packages 500 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security/main i386 Packages 1:5.1.2-0ubuntu1 500 500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial/main i386 Packages How to reproduce this: 1. Open Calc, create new document 2. Fill document cells with some data 3. Switch keyboard layout to Russian 4. Try to move focus from one cell to another with keyboard arrow keys Expected results: * arrow keys move cell selection Actual results: * arrow keys move entire sheet Notes: * if I disable Scroll Lock LED indication Calc moves cell selection as usual. * versions 1:5.1.2-0ubuntu1 from official repository (xenial/main) does not have such problem. * version 1:5.1.6~rc2-0ubuntu1~xenial2 from official repository (xenial-updates/main, xenial-security/main) does not have such problem. Please fix this bug. LibreOffice Calc should not care about ScrollLock LED state. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 111627] Cursor keys scroll document in Calc instead of moving
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=111627 Hamid changed: What|Removed |Added CC|hamidrjaf...@gmail.com | --- Comment #7 from Hamid --- I am not seeing this bug anymore. I recently upgraded to Kubuntu 17.10. That might be the fix. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 111627] Cursor keys scroll document in Calc instead of moving
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=111627 --- Comment #6 from Aron Budea --- There is a bug report to make this setting configurable, bug 112876. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 111627] Cursor keys scroll document in Calc instead of moving
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=111627
--- Comment #5 from Hamid ---
Found the caveat: changing keyboard layout (which is pressing both shifts)
triggers scroll lock on my keyboard. Of course the keyboard is just reporting
key presses but KDE or X is interpreting it such way. I'll look more into it
and if relevant will notify.
To check for yourself (the options line in the output):
$ setxkbmap -print -verbose 10
Setting verbose level to 10
locale is C
Trying to load rules file ./rules/evdev...
Trying to load rules file /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/evdev...
Success.
Applied rules from evdev:
rules: evdev
model: pc101
layout: us,ir
options:grp_led:scroll,grp:shifts_toggle
Trying to build keymap using the following components:
keycodes: evdev+aliases(qwerty)
types: complete
compat: complete+ledscroll(group_lock)
symbols:pc+us+ir:2+inet(evdev)+group(shifts_toggle)
geometry: pc(pc101)
xkb_keymap {
xkb_keycodes { include "evdev+aliases(qwerty)" };
xkb_types { include "complete" };
xkb_compat{ include "complete+ledscroll(group_lock)"};
xkb_symbols { include "pc+us+ir:2+inet(evdev)+group(shifts_toggle)"
};
xkb_geometry { include "pc(pc101)" };
};
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 111627] Cursor keys scroll document in Calc instead of moving
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=111627 Aron Budea changed: What|Removed |Added See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11 ||2876 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 111627] Cursor keys scroll document in Calc instead of moving
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=111627 Aron Budea changed: What|Removed |Added See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46 ||200 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 111627] Cursor keys scroll document in Calc instead of moving
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=111627 Aron Budea changed: What|Removed |Added Status|REOPENED|NEEDINFO CC||ba...@caesar.elte.hu --- Comment #4 from Aron Budea --- The request was see if it occurs with an empty profile (which safe mode guarantees), and to report back whether the issue occurs or not. The question is, why this isn't working as expected (please verify with an on-screen keyboard that Scroll Lock is off according to the system). I don't see the reason why the feature would need to ability to be deactivated, it should work normally instead, and not trigger unless someone actually turns on Scroll Lock. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 111627] Cursor keys scroll document in Calc instead of moving
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=111627 Hamid changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEEDINFO|REOPENED --- Comment #3 from Hamid --- Same. Sometimes it woks as usual sometimes not. I even didn't notice it was scrollbar feature. That restart request seems nonsense. What to look for? What to report? For extended work it is better to change to another spreadsheet. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 111627] Cursor keys scroll document in Calc instead of moving
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=111627 m.a.riosv changed: What|Removed |Added Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEEDINFO CC||miguelangelrv@libreoffice.o ||rg Ever confirmed|0 |1 --- Comment #2 from m.a.riosv --- Please test with Menu/Help/Restart in Safe Mode -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 111627] Cursor keys scroll document in Calc instead of moving
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=111627 --- Comment #1 from Karsten --- Of course it should be "I know" and not "I now". :-) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
