Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Cleaning bug list

2012-06-21 Thread bfo [via Document Foundation Mail Archive]
Petr Mladek wrote > >> I'd change the workflow a little bit by putting the obvious things at the >> top: >> - feature requests aka wishlist > I do not have any strong opinion for this. I think that it is is good to > be able to discuss features, so "enhancement" bugs in bugzilla might be > usable

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Cleaning bug list

2012-06-21 Thread Petr Mladek
Hi bfo, this are interesting questions. I put back QA mailing list into CC because there people there are interested. bfo píše v Út 19. 06. 2012 v 11:24 -0700: > This is a very nice workflow, but I have some questions: > - how you define "Bug prevent users from making professional quality work?"

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Cleaning bug list

2012-06-20 Thread Petr Mladek
Joel Madero píše v St 20. 06. 2012 v 08:08 -0700: > Thanks for the advice. I thought I had included the qa list, my > mistake. As for the length, I agree and I almost didn't include it but > that was an email in response to mine so I felt a bit obligated to > respond despite the length. If only I

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Cleaning bug list

2012-06-20 Thread Joel Madero
Thanks for the advice. I thought I had included the qa list, my mistake. As for the length, I agree and I almost didn't include it but that was an email in response to mine so I felt a bit obligated to respond despite the length. I had another side question, the response to the thread was made her

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Cleaning bug list

2012-06-20 Thread Petr Mladek
Hi Joel, Joel Madero píše v Út 19. 06. 2012 v 13:36 -0700: > I moved this to a new thread because the subject here didn't really > accurately portray the direction of the conversation The mail includes many good questions and proposals that might move us forward. I'll try to answer it later this

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Cleaning bug list

2012-06-19 Thread Joel Madero
I moved this to a new thread because the subject here didn't really accurately portray the direction of the conversation but I wanted to say I have uploaded the latest flowchard: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/0/06/Prioritizing_Bugs_Flowchart.jpg I wasn't sure how or if I needed a wi

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Cleaning bug list

2012-06-18 Thread Joel Madero
I agree with the save comment, I'll change that right now. Also realized I didn't put a note in for regressions so I added to the bottom notes: **Regressions** Special attention should be paid to regressions. In most cases a regression calls for an increase in priority but in some cases it will no

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Cleaning bug list

2012-06-18 Thread Petr Mladek
Joel Madero píše v Po 18. 06. 2012 v 09:32 -0700: > Version 2, changed orientation and tried to take comments into > account. Let me know what you all think. It is much better readable. I finally got a better picture :-) Well, I think that it still need some thinking. You set "inability to safe"

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Cleaning bug list

2012-06-18 Thread Petr Mladek
Joel Madero píše v Po 18. 06. 2012 v 07:04 -0700: > I'll modify the orientation today or tomorrow and try to see where > regression should fit. I think that it has to go in Priority and not in > Severity. Makes sense. > As for how devs use it, I agree completely that right now it's > almost u

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Cleaning bug list

2012-06-18 Thread Petr Mladek
Rainer Bielefeld píše v Po 18. 06. 2012 v 13:21 +0200: > Joel Madero schrieb: > > I brainstormed a bit today and I came up with this flowchart. > > > Hi Joel, > > great to see that all in a chart, your conclusions and definitions seem > plausible. > > But the chart also shows the limitations o

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Cleaning bug list

2012-06-18 Thread Joel Madero
I'll modify the orientation today or tomorrow and try to see where regression should fit. I think that it has to go in Priority and not in Severity. As for how devs use it, I agree completely that right now it's almost useless but maybe if it becomes more uniform and it actually provides some i

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Cleaning bug list

2012-06-18 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Joel Madero schrieb: I brainstormed a bit today and I came up with this flowchart. Hi Joel, great to see that all in a chart, your conclusions and definitions seem plausible. But the chart also shows the limitations of that concept: It's really sophisticated, and no developer will sit at

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Cleaning bug list

2012-06-18 Thread Petr Mladek
Joel Madero píše v Pá 15. 06. 2012 v 23:09 -0700: > I brainstormed a bit today and I came up with this flowchart. Looking > for input. I read through email threads and see that prioritizing bugs > has been an interesting discussion but as of now looks to be pretty > unsettled. I'm going to make a s

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Cleaning bug list

2012-06-18 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi Joel, On 2012-06-15 at 23:09 -0700, Joel Madero wrote: > I brainstormed a bit today and I came up with this flowchart. Looking > for input. I read through email threads and see that prioritizing bugs > has been an interesting discussion but as of now looks to be pretty > unsettled. I'm going t

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Cleaning bug list

2012-06-14 Thread Marc Kaulisch
Hello, may I suggest that this list of eight important points of consideration should be included in this http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugTriage page? For me it would be great if I could have an authorative advise about how to deal with open bugs... Greetings, Marc Am 08.06.2012 12:

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Cleaning bug list

2012-06-08 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi, On Fri, Jun 08, 2012 at 11:14:05PM +0700, Korrawit Pruegsanusak wrote: > And yes, the "we" here is now including you, Joel. :-) Apropos: If you are able, it would be great if you could join the next QA call - it will be on 2012-06-12 14:00 UTC. Some things are easier to coordinate on the pho

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Cleaning bug list

2012-06-08 Thread Michael Stahl
On 08/06/12 18:33, Joel Madero wrote: > I just realized that there is no CONFIRMED, I think this would be a > helpful classification but if it can't/won't be added then I still feel > like we should differentiate confirmed from non confirmed in some manner. this state does exist, it is called "NEW

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Cleaning bug list

2012-06-08 Thread Joel Madero
I just realized that there is no CONFIRMED, I think this would be a helpful classification but if it can't/won't be added then I still feel like we should differentiate confirmed from non confirmed in some manner. This could be as simple as making it ASSIGNED TO and have it blank or just default l

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Cleaning bug list

2012-06-08 Thread Korrawit Pruegsanusak
Hello Joel, all, First, a big thank you from me! :-) On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 1:49 PM, Joel Madero wrote: > 2. If two or more people have said that they do not have the bug I'm doing > the following if there hasn't been action for 30+ days: > a. If it's stated that the bug was fixed in a recent re

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Cleaning bug list

2012-06-08 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
On Fri, Jun 08, 2012 at 07:17:51AM -0700, Joel Madero wrote: > If someone asked "is this reproducible in the latest release", but didn't > say anything else as to if they themselves had tried to reproduce it. I > would mark as NEEDINFO. I think that this is a bad policy as we can't > expect users t

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Cleaning bug list

2012-06-08 Thread Joel Madero
One more thing to add to this. Last night when I did some (I think I did about 25-50 so it wasn't too many) I was doing the following: If someone asked "is this reproducible in the latest release", but didn't say anything else as to if they themselves had tried to reproduce it. I would mark as NEE

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Cleaning bug list

2012-06-08 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi Joel, On Thu, Jun 07, 2012 at 11:49:52PM -0700, Joel Madero wrote: > Sure thing, I'll include it here and add a link as soon as I post over at > freedesktop bugs > [...] > I hope I'm not overstepping, just trying to help as much as possible as it > seems like there is a bit of a back log. If th

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Cleaning bug list

2012-06-08 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi Joel, On 2012-06-07 at 23:49 -0700, Joel Madero wrote: > 1. If there has been a request for information and there has been no > response for 30+ days I'm putting NEEDINFO > > 2. If two or more people have said that they do not have the bug I'm > doing the following if there hasn't been action

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Cleaning bug list

2012-06-08 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi Joel, On Thu, 2012-06-07 at 23:49 -0700, Joel Madero wrote: > Sure thing, I'll include it here and add a link as soon as I post over > at freedesktop bugs This is prolly best on the libreoffice-qa list (I just CC'd it) - but it's interesting on the hackers list too. Your cleanup sounds