[Libreoffice-qa] LO's spellchecker shows grammar errors/hints in English, though UI is in German?
Good morning @ll, while testing QA in MozTrap, I found the following: If you open a document in your language (in my case: German), press F7 to start the spellchecker, you will get these grammar errors / hints in German (which is, what I have expected), when the spellchecker finds an error / unclear passage. If I open a document in en-US (but still with my UI settings set to my language), LO suddenly shows these messages in English. Is this intended or is it a bug? I would expect these messages in German, but maybe I am wrong here ... ;) Steps to reproduce: 1. Start Writer 2. Either create a short document with some grammatical errors in your language, open an existing one or download one (for example one of the great documents from odfauthors.org :) ) 3. Press F7 to spellcheck the document 4. When you reach a grammatical error / an unclear position in your text, look at this yellowish bar below Text language It should be in English. Discovered with: LO: installed version Version: 4.1.3.2 Build ID: 70feb7d99726f064edab4605a8ab840c50ec57a and parallel installed Version: 4.2.0.0.beta2 Build ID: 1a27be92e320f97c20d581a69ef1c8b99ea9885d (both with installed Germanophone lang- as well as helppack) OS: Debian Testing AMD64 It would be nice, if someone can check it with other languages, OS/architecture etc. as well :) Thanks for testing Thomas. -- Many a man who thinks he's going on a maiden voyage with a woman finds out later that it was just a shake-down cruise. ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] LO's spellchecker shows grammar errors/hints in English, though UI is in German?
Hi Thomas Thomas Hackert wrote 4. When you reach a grammatical error / an unclear position in your text, look at this yellowish bar below Text language It should be in English. Which yellowish bar? Can you link to an image (preferably in Nabble)? I tested this in Portuguese using LO 4.1.4.1 and everything is working as expected. Cheers, Pedro -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Libreoffice-qa-LO-s-spellchecker-shows-grammar-errors-hints-in-English-though-UI-is-in-German-tp4087185p4087202.html Sent from the QA mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Grammar check does not work, when there is no spellcheck in a document
Hi Thomas Thomas Hackert wrote Hi again, sigh ... It seems, either I expect too unexpected things from LO, or the grammar check is not usable at all ... :( But if I switch my UI settings to en-US, I can write something completely rubbish, and the grammar checker will not find it, if all words are written correctly ... :( You should notice that the message says The spellcheck is complete There is no grammar correction. That is one of the (main?) reasons people prefer MS Word ;) In any case using Word 2003, the final sentence after grammar correction is Does he know that he has wrong? which is much better than Does he known, that he has wrong. but still isn't correct English... So, the answer is B) grammar check is not usable at all only spell checking is performed (which means that the menu option name Spelling and Grammar is misleading) Cheers, Pedro -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Libreoffice-qa-Grammar-check-does-not-work-when-there-is-no-spellcheck-in-a-document-tp4087188p4087206.html Sent from the QA mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Grammar check does not work, when there is no spellcheck in a document
On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Pedro pedl...@gmail.com wrote: Thomas Hackert wrote Hi again, sigh ... It seems, either I expect too unexpected things from LO, or the grammar check is not usable at all ... :( But if I switch my UI settings to en-US, I can write something completely rubbish, and the grammar checker will not find it, if all words are written correctly ... :( You should notice that the message says The spellcheck is complete There is no grammar correction. That is one of the (main?) reasons people prefer MS Word ;) In any case using Word 2003, the final sentence after grammar correction is Does he know that he has wrong? which is much better than Does he known, that he has wrong. but still isn't correct English... So, the answer is B) grammar check is not usable at all only spell checking is performed (which means that the menu option name Spelling and Grammar is misleading) The built-in English grammar checker (Lightproof) does not know many rules. It does not mean, that B) grammar check is not usable at all. It works as designed. Spell checkers and grammar checkers are UNO components, so users don't have to use the standard, built-in ones, but it is possible to use alternatives. Examples include Zemberek (Turkish spell checker), Voikko (Finnish spell checker), Duden Korrektor (German), and LanguageTool (grammar checker for many languages). Cheers, Andras ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Grammar check does not work, when there is no spellcheck in a document
Hi, On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Andras Timar wrote: On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Pedro wrote: Thomas Hackert wrote Hi again, sigh ... It seems, either I expect too unexpected things from LO, or the grammar check is not usable at all ... :( But if I switch my UI settings to en-US, I can write something completely rubbish, and the grammar checker will not find it, if all words are written correctly ... :( You should notice that the message says The spellcheck is complete There is no grammar correction. That is one of the (main?) reasons people prefer MS Word ;) In any case using Word 2003, the final sentence after grammar correction is Does he know that he has wrong? which is much better than Does he known, that he has wrong. but still isn't correct English... So, the answer is B) grammar check is not usable at all only spell checking is performed (which means that the menu option name Spelling and Grammar is misleading) The built-in English grammar checker (Lightproof) does not know many rules. It does not mean, that B) grammar check is not usable at all. It works as designed. Spell checkers and grammar checkers are UNO components, so users don't have to use the standard, built-in ones, but it is possible to use alternatives. Examples include Zemberek (Turkish spell checker), Voikko (Finnish spell checker), Duden Korrektor (German), and LanguageTool (grammar checker for many languages). Sample: LibreOfficeDev 4.2.0.0.beta2 / LanguageTool 2.3 https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0EPDeSWKu9xN1RnVk5ObW9QcWs/edit Have a nice day - Manfred ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Grammar check does not work, when there is no spellcheck in a document
Hi Andras Andras Timar-3 wrote The built-in English grammar checker (Lightproof) does not know many rules. It does not mean, that B) grammar check is not usable at all. It works as designed. I'm sorry but I couldn't avoid laughing at this... Works as designed? Yes, this is true. It is indeed *usable* but USELESS. Sorry for picking the wrong word. From a functionality point of view this is the same as saying that LO does NOT provide a Grammar checker for en_US. You should get an Extension if you require that Extra feature. This means that the menu option IS misleading. I am aware that the Language tools are not developed by TDF but then to be perfectly honest TDF should not gloat that Writer has all the features you need from a modern, full-featured word processing and desktop publishing tool (I had never noticed the DTP part... LOL) A Grammar checker is a MAJOR feature of a word processor. Again, playing with words, it is indeed *included* except that it is useless... Of course this is not a TDF/LO only problem. Still it is misleading and disappointing... Oh, and Language Tool didn't find any errors on that sentence... Just my 2 cents... -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Libreoffice-qa-Grammar-check-does-not-work-when-there-is-no-spellcheck-in-a-document-tp4087188p4087223.html Sent from the QA mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Grammar check does not work, when there is no spellcheck in a document
Hi Manfred Manfred J. Krause wrote Sample: LibreOfficeDev 4.2.0.0.beta2 / LanguageTool 2.3 https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0EPDeSWKu9xN1RnVk5ObW9QcWs/edit Interesting. Language Tool 2.3 does find that error using LO 4.2 Beta2 but not when using LO 4.1.4.1... In any case Does he knew, that he has wrong. is incorrect in English... It changed an incorrect tense of the verb with another incorrect tense... On a separate note, if after installing Language Tool 2.3 you disable Java, you won't be able to start LO again unless you choose to enable it. Choosing No will put LO in an endless recovery loop. Cheers, Pedro -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Libreoffice-qa-Grammar-check-does-not-work-when-there-is-no-spellcheck-in-a-document-tp4087188p4087225.html Sent from the QA mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Grammar check does not work, when there is no spellcheck in a document
Hello Pedro, *, On Sonntag, 8. Dezember 2013 13:17 Pedro wrote: Thomas Hackert wrote sigh ... It seems, either I expect too unexpected things from LO, or the grammar check is not usable at all ... :( But if I switch my UI settings to en-US, I can write something completely rubbish, and the grammar checker will not find it, if all words are written correctly ... :( You should notice that the message says The spellcheck is complete No, because ... When I use LO with a Germanophone UI, open (or create) a text document with grammatical errors in it, I see a yellowish bar (not sure, if a dev would call it that way ... ;) ) with text in it. So there seems to be some kind of (rudimentary?) grammar check inside LO. On my system, there is also a Check grammar field to mark, if I start the spellchecker ... ;) There is no grammar correction. That is one of the (main?) reasons people prefer MS Word ;) Oh, it is on my system :) I get a yellowish question/hint (depending on the type of error, which is found) ... ;) In any case using Word 2003, the final sentence after grammar correction is Does he know that he has wrong? which is much better than Does he known, that he has wrong. but still isn't correct English... O.K. So, the answer is B) grammar check is not usable at all only spell checking is performed (which means that the menu option name Spelling and Grammar is misleading) O.K. Thanks for your answer Thomas. -- If you can't say anything good about someone, sit right here by me. -- Alice Roosevelt Longworth ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] LO's spellchecker shows grammar errors/hints in English, though UI is in German?
Hello Pedro, *, On Sonntag, 8. Dezember 2013 13:03 Pedro wrote: Thomas Hackert wrote 4. When you reach a grammatical error / an unclear position in your text, look at this yellowish bar below Text language It should be in English. Which yellowish bar? Can you link to an image (preferably in Nabble)? I prefer to reuse Manfred's posted link here: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0EPDeSWKu9xN1RnVk5ObW9QcWs/edit?pli=1. I do not know, how this is called correctly, but I mean this yellow line with the text Possible grammatical error... in it ... ;) I tested this in Portuguese using LO 4.1.4.1 and everything is working as expected. Do you mean, you tested it with the UI in Portuguese or the document? Thanks for testing anyway Thomas. -- No man in the world has more courage than the man who can stop after eating one peanut. -- Channing Pollock ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] Echap in MozTrap's test case #40?
Hello Sophie, @ll, in test case #40 (http://manual-test.libreoffice.org/manage/caseversion/899/) I found the following text: quote 2. Select the menu Slide Show Slide show. Once played exit the presentation using Echap /quote This should be quote Select the menu Slide Show Slide show. Once played exit the presentation using Escape /quote , or am I wrong here ;? As far as I found out, Echap is the French word for Esc ... ;) Sorry for the inconvenience Thomas. -- I believe a little incompatibility is the spice of life, particularly if he has income and she is pattable. -- Ogden Nash ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Updater improvements
Hi, Would it be an idea to use mirrorbrain for this? That has already the supported versions. We could patch it so it can give us the files in JSON/XML-format rather then create our own little program for this. The downside is that mirrorbrain hasn't had a release in 1,5 years. So I don't know how active that is. Where is the check.php stored. It would be usefull to see what format that gives the data to LibreOffice to see what it expects. -- Greetings, Rob Snelders On 06-12-13 11:02, Rob Snelders wrote: So to sum up, my suggestion is that we store version information in a database such that it can be - Updated by the official build/upload process - Updated by the person(s) who picks the 'stable' build - Queried by the BSA - Queried by various websites that need the information Did I forget anything? I don't think so. But can we create some XML/JSON API against that? Then anybody can read that information in any system. It is no confidential information so we can just let anyone read this and they can use that info. ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/ ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] [Math] Clicking in Formular does not let the cursor change its position in the main part
Hello @ll,
as I am testing http://manual-test.libreoffice.org/runtests/run/57/env/642/ in
MozTrap right now,
I followed the following instruction there
quote
1. * Open a new Formula document using File New Formula
* Enter formula values in the input frame as: lllint from{1}
to{x} (1 over sum from {k j} (d_(j)+arccot(nroot{32 }X^{11})))+1
there should be the mathematical formula you input displayed in the
main area
2. Click on around the rendered formula symbol in the main area
the cursor jumps to the corresponding character in the input frame
3. ...
/quote
. If I copy this formular to Math, then click on the formular in the
main window, I cannot see the cursor jumping to its corresponding
position ... :( Is it only on my system? Or can anyone else with a
different OS/architecture confirm this? Or is this an error in the
test description?
Discovered with
LO Version: 4.2.0.0.beta2 Build-ID:
1a27be92e320f97c20d581a69ef1c8b99ea9885d, but also with LO Version:
4.1.3.2 Build ID: 70feb7d99726f064edab4605a8ab840c50ec57a (both with
installed Germanophone lang- as well as helppack)
OS: Debian Testing AMD64
Thanks for testing
Thomas.
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] LO's spellchecker shows grammar errors/hints in English, though UI is in German?
Hi Thomas Thomas Hackert wrote I prefer to reuse Manfred's posted link here: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0EPDeSWKu9xN1RnVk5ObW9QcWs/edit?pli=1. I do not know, how this is called correctly, but I mean this yellow line with the text Possible grammatical error... in it ... ;) I don't get any yellow line when using the standard check. It only shows in Language Tool under 4.2 Beta 2. I think you have detected a bug in the Extension, not in LibreOffice. Thomas Hackert wrote Do you mean, you tested it with the UI in Portuguese or the document? I tested an English US document with a Portuguese UI, as you described in the steps to reproduce the bug... I just re-tested under LO 4.2 Beta 2 and I can confirm that the messages are in English even if the UI is in Portuguese. Again I think this is a bug in Language Tool. If you have Language Tool remove it and test again if you see the yellow bar Cheers, Pedro -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Libreoffice-qa-LO-s-spellchecker-shows-grammar-errors-hints-in-English-though-UI-is-in-German-tp4087185p4087244.html Sent from the QA mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Echap in MozTrap's test case #40?
Hi Thomas, Le 08/12/2013 18:00, Thomas Hackert a écrit : Hello Sophie, @ll, in test case #40 (http://manual-test.libreoffice.org/manage/caseversion/899/) I found the following text: quote 2. Select the menu Slide Show Slide show. Once played exit the presentation using Echap /quote This should be quote Select the menu Slide Show Slide show. Once played exit the presentation using Escape /quote , or am I wrong here ;? As far as I found out, Echap is the French word for Esc ... ;) You're completely right, sorry for this. I've read it several time without noticing it was French. Thanks a lot for pointing it I'll correct it for the RC. Also not that I've done a mistake in another test where I wrote Ctrl+F5 to play the slideshow when it should be Shift+F5, I've already mark this test as wrong in Moztrap. Cheers Sophie ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [Math] Clicking in Formular does not let the cursor change its position in the main part
Thomas Hackert schreef op 8/12/13 18:24: . If I copy this formular to Math, then click on the formular in the main window, I cannot see the cursor jumping to its corresponding position ... :( Is it only on my system? Or can anyone else with a different OS/architecture confirm this? Or is this an error in the test description? Tested using: Mac OSX 10.9 with LibreOffice Version: 4.2.0.0.beta2 Build ID: 1a27be92e320f97c20d581a69ef1c8b99ea9885d I see a blinking cursor in the edit-window, nicely where I clicked in the main window. So I can not reproduce this behavior. Kind regards, Joren ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] LO's spellchecker shows grammar errors/hints in English, though UI is in German?
Hello Pedro, *; On Sonntag, 8. Dezember 2013 18:28 Pedro wrote: Thomas Hackert wrote I prefer to reuse Manfred's posted link here: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0EPDeSWKu9xN1RnVk5ObW9QcWs/edit?pli=1. I do not know, how this is called correctly, but I mean this yellow line with the text Possible grammatical error... in it ... ;) I don't get any yellow line when using the standard check. It only do you really not see this yellow backgrounded message below Text language? Would you be so kind to download the test document from MozTrap (http://manual-test.libreoffice.org/media/attachments/2013/01/15/language-test-en.odt) then, and test it again, please? If I use the German UI, I see a couple of blue underlines in the document, and if I start the spellchecker and it reaches the first one [SUSE, ...] it will say Extra space before the period? in this yellowish bar ... ;) shows in Language Tool under 4.2 Beta 2. I think you have detected a bug in the Extension, not in LibreOffice. I have not installed Language Tool, so ... ;) Thomas Hackert wrote Do you mean, you tested it with the UI in Portuguese or the document? I tested an English US document with a Portuguese UI, as you described in the steps to reproduce the bug... O.K. I just re-tested under LO 4.2 Beta 2 and I can confirm that the messages are in English even if the UI is in Portuguese. O.K. Again I think this is a bug in Language Tool. If you have Language Tool remove it and test again if you see the yellow bar And again: I have not installed Language Tool (neither as an extension in LO nor as their standalone package). Other ideas? Thank you for your answer Thomas. -- In love, she who gives her portrait promises the original. -- Bruton ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Echap in MozTrap's test case #40?
Hello Sophie, *, On Sonntag, 8. Dezember 2013 18:34 Sophie wrote: Le 08/12/2013 18:00, Thomas Hackert a écrit : in test case #40 (http://manual-test.libreoffice.org/manage/caseversion/899/) I found the following text: quote 2. Select the menu Slide Show Slide show. Once played exit the presentation using Echap /quote This should be quote Select the menu Slide Show Slide show. Once played exit the presentation using Escape /quote , or am I wrong here ;? As far as I found out, Echap is the French word for Esc ... ;) You're completely right, sorry for this. I've read it several time without noticing it was French. :) Thanks a lot for pointing it I'll correct it for the RC. Thank you very much :) Also not that I've done a mistake in another test where I wrote Ctrl+F5 to play the slideshow when it should be Shift+F5, I've already mark this test as wrong in Moztrap. You mean this test, where the tester should start the slide show with Ctrl+F5(http://manual-test.libreoffice.org/results/cases/_detail/1164/)? Shift+F5 would start with the current slide. If you want the tester to start the slide show with the first slide, you only need F5 to start is (see the menu Slide Show, where you see the shortcuts behind each menu item) ... ;) Thanks for your work in MozTrap Thomas. -- I'm sorry, but my karma just ran over your dogma. ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [Math] Clicking in Formular does not let the cursor change its position in the main part
Hello Joren, *, On Sonntag, 8. Dezember 2013 18:48 Joren DC wrote: Thomas Hackert schreef op 8/12/13 18:24: . If I copy this formular to Math, then click on the formular in the main window, I cannot see the cursor jumping to its corresponding position ... :( Is it only on my system? Or can anyone else with a different OS/architecture confirm this? Or is this an error in the test description? Tested using: Mac OSX 10.9 with LibreOffice Version: 4.2.0.0.beta2 Build ID: 1a27be92e320f97c20d581a69ef1c8b99ea9885d I see a blinking cursor in the edit-window, nicely where I clicked in the main window. O.K. Thanks for testing :) So I can not reproduce this behavior. So some strange GNU/Linux bug, graphics chip/card bug, or ... ;? Thanks for your answer Thomas. -- The cost of living hasn't affected its popularity. ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] LO's spellchecker shows grammar errors/hints in English, though UI is in German?
Hello Thomas, do you really not see this yellow backgrounded message below Text language? It could be the color is a combination with the windowmaker you use. Here the background is in white color. I have opened your document and see, when the grammatical correction will come at « Microsoft Windows, Mac OS X and GNU/Linux (Debian, Ubuntu, Fedora, Mandriva, Suse, ...). » Extra space before the period? with a white background directly under Textlanguage - the language is greyed out at this moment. I see this with a UI German - isn't translated. I have tested with LO 4.1.3.2 and German langpack under OpenSUSE 12.3 64bit rpm. Original OpenSUSE LO 4.1.1.2 shows the message with a black background and, could be, in black color on the same system. Regards Robert ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Updater improvements
On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Rob Snelders r...@ertai.nl wrote: Hi, Would it be an idea to use mirrorbrain for this? That has already the supported versions. We could patch it so it can give us the files in JSON/XML-format rather then create our own little program for this. The downside is that mirrorbrain hasn't had a release in 1,5 years. So I don't know how active that is. Building the info into mirrorbrain is interesting. I assume that mirrorbrain is regarded as critical infra, which would be useful here because we'd be adding it as a dependency to the BSA, updater, wiki, and a few other websites. Where is the check.php stored. It would be usefull to see what format that gives the data to LibreOffice to see what it expects. http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/website/tree/check.php?h=update Cheers, --R ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [Math] Clicking in Formular does not let the cursor change its position in the main part
Hello Thomas, have tested it with the formula. When I click in the main window I see the marked part of the formula with a dotted rectangle. The cursor in the input-box has jumped to the begin of this marked part. Can't see any buggy behavior there. Regards Robert ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] LO's spellchecker shows grammar errors/hints in English, though UI is in German?
Hello Robert, *, On Sonntag, 8. Dezember 2013 19:33 Robert Großkopf wrote: do you really not see this yellow backgrounded message below Text language? It could be the color is a combination with the windowmaker you use. Here the background is in white color. ah, O.K. Thank you for your information :) I have opened your document and see, when the grammatical correction will come at « Microsoft Windows, Mac OS X and GNU/Linux (Debian, Ubuntu, Fedora, Mandriva, Suse, ...). » Extra space before the period? with a white background directly under Textlanguage - the language is greyed out at this moment. O.K. I see this with a UI German - isn't translated. I have tested with LO 4.1.3.2 and German langpack under OpenSUSE 12.3 64bit rpm. O.K. Original OpenSUSE LO 4.1.1.2 shows the message with a black background and, could be, in black color on the same system. could be? Does it mean, you only see a black bar there? Thanks for testing and confirming Thomas. -- Question: Is it better to abide by the rules until they're changed or help speed the change by breaking them? ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [Math] Clicking in Formular does not let the cursor change its position in the main part
Hello Robert, *, On Sonntag, 8. Dezember 2013 19:41 Robert Großkopf wrote: have tested it with the formula. When I click in the main window I see the marked part of the formula with a dotted rectangle. The cursor in the input-box has jumped to the begin of this marked part. O.K. Thank you very much for testing :) Can't see any buggy behavior there. Could you mention your OS/architecture/graphics card or chip/driver here as well? TIA Thomas. -- : I used to think that this was just another demonstration of Larry's : enormous skill at pulling off what other people would fail or balk at. Well, everyone else knew it was impossible, so they didn't try. :-) -- Larry Wall in 199705101952.maa00...@wall.org ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] LO's spellchecker shows grammar errors/hints in English, though UI is in German?
Hello Thomas, Original OpenSUSE LO 4.1.1.2 shows the message with a black background and, could be, in black color on the same system. could be? Does it mean, you only see a black bar there? Yes, only a black bar. If there is is any information in this bar it is perfecly hidden for me. But it is the unstable repository from OpenSUSE where I have got this version from ... Robert ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [Math] Clicking in Formular does not let the cursor change its position in the main part
Hi Thomas,
Thomas Hackert schrieb:
Hello @ll,
as I am testing http://manual-test.libreoffice.org/runtests/run/57/env/642/ in
MozTrap right now,
I followed the following instruction there
quote
1. * Open a new Formula document using File New Formula
* Enter formula values in the input frame as: lllint from{1}
to{x} (1 over sum from {k j} (d_(j)+arccot(nroot{32 }X^{11})))+1
there should be the mathematical formula you input displayed in the
main area
2. Click on around the rendered formula symbol in the main area
the cursor jumps to the corresponding character in the input frame
3. ...
/quote
. If I copy this formular to Math, then click on the formular in the
main window, I cannot see the cursor jumping to its corresponding
position ... :( Is it only on my system? Or can anyone else with a
different OS/architecture confirm this? Or is this an error in the
test description?
Do you have enabled experimental feature? Then you get the new way to
enter formulas and that way has no formula cursor.
Kind regards
Regina
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bibisect - Separate Profile
On Mon, 2013-12-02 at 21:04 +0100, Mirosław Zalewski wrote: Dnia 2013-12-02, o godz. 11:36:31 Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com napisał(a): Can someone who knows how to run bibisect with a separate profile please update the wiki :) Sorry, but it's faster to write here: ./opt/program/soffice -env:UserInstallation=file:///tmp/soffice-bisect Will create soffice-bisect profile directory in /tmp/ (will get automatically removed during next machine boot). If you want to start fresh for each bisect iteration, you can add git commit hash to directory name. Something like that (should be in one line): ./opt/program/soffice -env:UserInstallation=file:///tmp/soffice-bisect-$(git rev-parse HEAD) Fooey. I was looking for this, and the answer was waiting in my in-box! Sigh. I have copied this into the wiki https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/HowToBibisect#Special_situations so that my next (or others') search will be less frustrating. Thank you, Mirosław. Terry, ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [Math] Clicking in Formular does not let the cursor change its position in the main part
Hello Thomas, On Sonntag, 8. Dezember 2013 19:41 Robert Großkopf wrote: have tested it with the formula. When I click in the main window I see the marked part of the formula with a dotted rectangle. The cursor in the input-box has jumped to the begin of this marked part. O.K. Thank you very much for testing :) Can't see any buggy behavior there. Could you mention your OS/architecture/graphics card or chip/driver here as well? Here OpenSUSE 12.3, 64bit rpm Linux - graphics Card? Something from Intel, don't know. I have now tested with enabled Experimental Features. The cursor goes to the main window and you could edit the values in the main window. Could be that this is the difference, as Regina wrote. Without these feature you could only edit in the special input-area. Regards Robert ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Updater improvements
Cloph - Thoughts? On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 3:22 AM, Robinson Tryon bishop.robin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, We've chatted a bit about some of the shortcomings of the updater lately, and I've come up with a couple of suggestions for improving not only the updater, but parts of our build system and bug tracker as well. 1) Problem: It's hard to add new build hashes to the updater The updater mixes code and data in a single file, making it a bit tricky to add new build hashes. Suggestion: Factor-out the data from the updater and store it in a database[1]. 2) Problem: Build hashes don't automatically get entered into the updater Suggestion: Tweak the build process (perhaps during the upload step) so that the build hash is fed into the updater database automatically. 3) Problem: We have to manually update various websites whenever the current stable and latest versions change. For example: On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 4:25 AM, Christian Lohmaier lohma...@googlemail.com wrote: 4.0 version has reached end-of-life, i.e. no fixes will be provided by TDF anymore. If your site has links to 4.0 downloads, please consider changing that to something else...We'd like to remove that version from the mirrornetwork soon...So in order to avoid [problems], please update your nl-website. Suggestion: Keep track of the current stable and latest version in the updater db. Create some code snippets that can be reused by various NL sites, templates on the wiki, etc... so that they always display the right info. 4) Problem: The BSA needs to know the list of currently-supported versions of LibreOffice Suggestion: This information could be easily added to/queried from the updater database. --- So to sum up, my suggestion is that we store version information in a database such that it can be - Updated by the official build/upload process - Updated by the person(s) who picks the 'stable' build - Queried by the BSA - Queried by various websites that need the information Did I forget anything? Cheers, --R [1] Any database is fine, as long as it's not the one that the wikis lock up each night... :P ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] LO's spellchecker shows grammar errors/hints in English, though UI is in German?
Hi Thomas Thomas Hackert wrote do you really not see this yellow backgrounded message below Text language? Would you be so kind to download the test document from MozTrap (http://manual-test.libreoffice.org/media/attachments/2013/01/15/language-test-en.odt) then, and test it again, please? If I use the German UI, I see a couple of blue underlines in the document, and if I start the spellchecker and it reaches the first one [SUSE, ...] it will say Extra space before the period? in this yellowish bar ... ;) Yes, I finally arrived to that sentence. I didn't get the yellow bar before because it only shows up on Grammar suggestions. You are correct that it was not related to Language Tool (it only showed up earlier with Language Tool on Beta2) I can confirm that the messages are in the wrong language under Windows as well. But it is not the default UI language: it is the language that it is used for spell checking. I tested with the French version of the document you linked and instead of getting the messages in Portuguese (as expected since I was using the Portuguese UI), I got the messages in French :) http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4087306/spelling_msg.png Hope this helps ;) Cheers, Pedro -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Libreoffice-qa-LO-s-spellchecker-shows-grammar-errors-hints-in-English-though-UI-is-in-German-tp4087185p4087306.html Sent from the QA mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] LO's spellchecker shows grammar errors/hints in English, though UI is in German?
Good morning Pedro, *, On Montag, 9. Dezember 2013 00:00 Pedro wrote: Thomas Hackert wrote do you really not see this yellow backgrounded message below Text language? Would you be so kind to download the test document from MozTrap (http://manual-test.libreoffice.org/media/attachments/2013/01/15/language-test-en.odt) then, and test it again, please? If I use the German UI, I see a couple of blue underlines in the document, and if I start the spellchecker and it reaches the first one [SUSE, ...] it will say Extra space before the period? in this yellowish bar ... ;) Yes, I finally arrived to that sentence. I didn't get the yellow bar before because it only shows up on Grammar suggestions. ah, O.K. On your picture you linked below, you get the yellow colour as well :) I have called it in default of its correct name bar ... ;) You are correct that it was not related to Language Tool (it only showed up earlier with Language Tool on Beta2) O.K. I can confirm that the messages are in the wrong language under Windows as well. But it is not the default UI language: it is the language that it is used for spell checking. I tested with the French version of the document you linked and instead of getting the messages in Portuguese (as expected since I was using the Portuguese UI), I got the messages in French :) Thanks for confirming :) Do you – by any chance – know, if it is already reported to Bugzilla? I will have the time to look this evening, but if someone can do this before, I would be more than thankful :) http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4087306/spelling_msg.png Hope this helps ;) Indeed, it did :) Have a nice day Thomas. -- First law of debate: Never argue with a fool. People might not know the difference. ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] LO's spellchecker shows grammar errors/hints in English, though UI is in German?
Good morning Robert, *, On Sonntag, 8. Dezember 2013 19:54 Robert Großkopf wrote: Original OpenSUSE LO 4.1.1.2 shows the message with a black background and, could be, in black color on the same system. could be? Does it mean, you only see a black bar there? Yes, only a black bar. If there is is any information in this bar it is perfecly hidden for me. But it is the unstable repository from OpenSUSE where I have got this version from ... O.K. Thank you for your explanation :) Thomas. -- I think it is true for all _n. I was just playing it safe with _n = 3 because I couldn't remember the proof. -- Baker, Pure Math 351a ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [Math] Clicking in Formular does not let the cursor change its position in the main part
Good morning Regina, *,
On Sonntag, 8. Dezember 2013 19:56 Regina Henschel wrote:
Thomas Hackert schrieb:
as I am testing
http://manual-test.libreoffice.org/runtests/run/57/env/642/ in
MozTrap right now, I followed the following instruction there
quote 1. * Open a new Formula document using File New
Formula
* Enter formula values in the input frame as: lllint from{1}
to{x} (1 over sum from {k j} (d_(j)+arccot(nroot{32
}X^{11})))+1 there should be the mathematical formula you input
displayed in the main area
2. Click on around the rendered formula symbol in the main area
the cursor jumps to the corresponding character in the input
frame 3. ...
/quote
. If I copy this formular to Math, then click on the formular in
the main window, I cannot see the cursor jumping to its
corresponding position ... :( Is it only on my system? Or can
anyone else with a different OS/architecture confirm this? Or is
this an error in the test description?
Do you have enabled experimental feature? Then you get the new
way to enter formulas and that way has no formula cursor.
ah, O.K. This explains my experience :) This means: Yes, I have the
experimental features enabled ... ;)
Thanks for your answer
Thomas.
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comment:
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six months later. Only the weak-minded need them, according
to those who think they aren't.
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