Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bacchanaly around Bug 81041

2014-08-06 Thread Jay Philips
Hi Urmas,

I saw activity from you in bugzilla today, so i thought it was time to
make amends. Firstly, i'd like to say that i didnt snitch on you to the
moderator, a moderator saw our discussion and decided to do that
himself. I've been instructed that the best means of settling
differences between users is on the QA mailing list and not bugzilla.

Regarding the bug, I was mistaken about it, which i have just mentioned
in the bug. I wasnt aware that the change was intentional, neither was
Cor Nouws, and i would have appreciated it if you would have taken the
time to educated me as such with clear information, like asking me to
check the 4.3 release notes.

I was asked not to comment on your email at the time it was sent and i
think that was the best course of action, so that any anger that was in
the air could die down. I dont hold anything against you for the words
you used against me in the email, as sometimes we say things in anger
that shouldnt be said. And if you dont wish to apologize for it, that is
fine. I'm here volunteering to help improve LibO and hope we can be nice
to each other, as i like being part of the QA team, and hope they feel
likewise.

Regards,
Jay Philips

On 07/30/2014 09:38 PM, Urmas wrote:
 Interesting things happen in LO QA community.
 
 Instead of reading 4.3 release notes, as an adequate person would, Jay 
 Philips in comment 15 starts being rude (and authoritative) to me, which I 
 —knowing about the dreck open source generally attracts— can look over; but 
 than he snitches me over to the moderator, which is unacceptable.
 Fistly, is that 'person' going to excuse itself?,
 Secondly, I would like to get an official response: is LO a project where the 
 adequate and sane people work, and it is safe for normal people to interact 
 with, or is it some Gnome-like community of 1½ faggots in a circle?
 Providing a reputation of LO as a commercial-grade professional software, I 
 would like to receive some explanations about faggots and snitches in its 
 public-faced parts being the QA community.
 
 Thanks.
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bacchanaly around Bug 81041

2014-07-31 Thread bfoman
Urmas D. wrote
 Interesting things happen in LO QA community.
 Instead of reading 4.3 release notes, as an adequate person would, Jay
 Philips in comment 15 starts being rude (and authoritative) to me, which
 I —knowing about the dreck open source generally attracts— can look over;
 but than he snitches me over to the moderator, which is unacceptable.

Hi!
ROTFL. Diamond cut diamond. You started the fight in comment 14. You used
caps first. Even used May be wrong (another one who don't know a difference
between may be and maybe as many others in this project). You are
aggressive in many other bug reports in Bugzilla, so don't come here to
complain, crybaby. Instead try to be more polite and maybe (yes, maybe)
people be polite towards you.
Best regards.



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[Libreoffice-qa] Bacchanaly around Bug 81041

2014-07-30 Thread Urmas
Interesting things happen in LO QA community.

Instead of reading 4.3 release notes, as an adequate person would, Jay 
Philips in comment 15 starts being rude (and authoritative) to me, which I 
—knowing about the dreck open source generally attracts— can look over; but 
than he snitches me over to the moderator, which is unacceptable.
Fistly, is that 'person' going to excuse itself?,
Secondly, I would like to get an official response: is LO a project where the 
adequate and sane people work, and it is safe for normal people to interact 
with, or is it some Gnome-like community of 1½ faggots in a circle?
Providing a reputation of LO as a commercial-grade professional software, I 
would like to receive some explanations about faggots and snitches in its 
public-faced parts being the QA community.

Thanks.
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bacchanaly around Bug 81041

2014-07-30 Thread Joel Madero
I suggest everyone ignore this
On 07/30/2014 10:38 AM, Urmas wrote:
 Interesting things happen in LO QA community.

 Instead of reading 4.3 release notes, as an adequate person would, Jay 
 Philips in comment 15 starts being rude (and authoritative) to me, which I 
 —knowing about the dreck open source generally attracts— can look over; but 
 than he snitches me over to the moderator, which is unacceptable.
 Fistly, is that 'person' going to excuse itself?,
 Secondly, I would like to get an official response: is LO a project where the 
 adequate and sane people work, and it is safe for normal people to interact 
 with, or is it some Gnome-like community of 1½ faggots in a circle?
 Providing a reputation of LO as a commercial-grade professional software, I 
 would like to receive some explanations about faggots and snitches in its 
 public-faced parts being the QA community.
Language like this is completely unacceptable and it's not the first
time that you've been told this. With that, I have no other comment on
any other part of this.


Best,
Joel
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bacchanaly around Bug 81041

2014-07-30 Thread Joren DC

Hi Urmas,

I'm not going to discuss the content of the bug itself. I'd like to 
discuss some other things:


First of all: thanks for just bringing this to the list, instead of play 
cat and mouse in Bugzilla which result in a huge spam.


Secondly, I'm not sure how you even can ask for an official reply on an 
email where hard working volunteers and our total community are 
called/questioned as morons and faggots.


Kind regards,
Joren

Op 30-07-14 om 19:38 schreef Urmas:

Interesting things happen in LO QA community.

Instead of reading 4.3 release notes, as an adequate person would, Jay 
Philips in comment 15 starts being rude (and authoritative) to me, which I —knowing 
about the dreck open source generally attracts— can look over; but than he snitches me 
over to the moderator, which is unacceptable.
Fistly, is that 'person' going to excuse itself?,
Secondly, I would like to get an official response: is LO a project where the 
adequate and sane people work, and it is safe for normal people to interact 
with, or is it some Gnome-like community of 1½ faggots in a circle?
Providing a reputation of LO as a commercial-grade professional software, I 
would like to receive some explanations about faggots and snitches in its 
public-faced parts being the QA community.

Thanks.
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bacchanaly around Bug 81041

2014-07-30 Thread Norbert Thiebaud
On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 7:58 PM, Sophie gautier.sop...@gmail.com wrote:
 I would like to receive some
 explanations about faggots and snitches in its public-faced parts
 being the QA community.

 What sort of answer do you expect? You want us to escalate on non sense?

OK sophie, I'm convinced...
As I said before I can stomach quite a bit of trolling on users@ and discuss@
but BZ and libreoffice-qa@ are place where serious work is done and
volunteer here should not have to waste their time dealing with that
nonsense.

Norbert

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