Re: overlay programs [LIB]
Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 03:16:26 + From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: overlay programs [LIB] > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Sounds to me like the overlay thing itself is introducing a > >significant level of FUD and increasing the chances that you're > going to >have the problems in the first place... > > > > Wouldn't it be a lot simpler/safer/reliable just to > > keep all the troubleshooting/recovery stuff in the first 8GB than > to >do the overlay thing? >From: "Kevin McClelland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >I don't think I have heard of anyone having serious >problems with a Win2K only setup and no drive overlay. >I think a lot of people are so used to using them under >Win9x that they go ahead and install it anyway. Have I missed something (with me there's a good probability of these things)? Are there alternatives for seeing the whole > 8MB HDD for Win9.x installations with Libs with this BIOS limitation? Matt (Shel) _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: overlay programs [LIB]
Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 19:23:25 -0700 (PDT) From: "Kevin McClelland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: overlay programs [LIB] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote > > Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 05:21:40 +0700 > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: overlay programs [LIB] > > >> I'm just curious - in a 20/30/40GB HDD L100/L110 > >> scenario, if you're going to run Win'2K as your one > >> and only OS - are these overlay programs totally > >> redundant? And if not, what purpose would they serve > >> in such a scenario? > > > > Primarily, I think you would have problems if you had > > a total system crash and had to reboot from DOS to fix > > it. At that point you could only see the 8gb, and if > > the files you needed to fix whatever problem you had > > were beyond that, they would be inaccessible. With the > > overlay running, you could still access all your other > > partitions in DOS. This is the only circumstance that > > immediately comes to mind. > > Sounds to me like the overlay thing itself is introducing > a significant level of FUD and increasing the chances that > you're going to have the problems in the first place... > > Wouldn't it be a lot simpler/safer/reliable just to keep > all the troubleshooting/recovery stuff in the first 8GB > than to do the overlay thing? Ultimately, I would think that would be fine in a strict Win2K install, since Win2K has no problems seeing the entire drive. Over time as the drive gets used, becomes fragmented and I assume defragmented by any number of decent programs, some of the vital data may eventually migrate betond the 8gb boundary. Still, wouldn't really make a difference with Win2K since it does not have to be on a partition in the 8gb limit to boot, and I would assume that the boot partition would not be any larger than the 8gb anyway, and use the remainder for storage or program install for the less frequently used stuff. Perhaps make a seperate partition with your recovery info, and leave it static. Maybe even hide it, and then all you would need to do is unhide it and boot to DOS, and you are ready to restore, fix, whatever. I don't think I have heard of anyone having serious problems with a Win2K only setup and no drive overlay. I think a lot of people are so used to using them under Win9x that they go ahead and install it anyway. I have not done so, so I cannot say for certain that this is correct, but it would make sense. - Get your free @Elvis e-mail account at Elvis.com! http://www.elvis.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: overlay programs [LIB]
Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 20:27:14 -0400 From: "Gennadiy Tsygan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: overlay programs [LIB] I have XP and I installed Recovery Console, which allows to boot into command prompt even on NTFS partition. I have FAT32, so I can use boot floppy too. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Libretto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 6:10 PM Subject: Re: overlay programs [LIB] > Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 05:16:34 +0700 > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: overlay programs [LIB] > > > Ya got me ;-) > > > > Maybe for paranoid freaks that want to be able to boot to Win98 if > > Win2K dies (oh wait, I'm normally one of those paranoid freaks, > > I always partition 2Gig FAT for Win95/98 so I can boot to DOS if > > necessary). > > I'm the same, hence I've still got my intact Win'98/4.3GB HDD - but apart > from going back to retrieve my e-mail rules from the registry, I've never > needed it. > > My boot-to-DOS option is as follows:- > > Start || Settings || Control Panel || System > System Properties || Advanced || Startup and Recovery > System startup > -- Default operating system = [Microsoft Windows 2000 Pro..." /fastdetect] > -- Display List of operating systems for: = [checked] seconds: = [2] > > So when I boot, I get the option (just for 2 seconds) to intervene, before > it proceeds with Win'2K automatically. > If I take the Win'98 option... because I don't have Win'98 installed... it > boots instantaneously to a fully-functional DOS prompt (although I've never > actually needed it). > And of course I can boot to DOS from a floppy too... > > > I always partition 2Gig FAT for Win95/98 so I can boot to DOS if > > necessary). > > You mean 2Gig Fat16? > My first 8GB is Fat32... DOS appears to see that no problem (in fact, it > sees all the partitions - ie the entire 30GB) - could I have some problem > with that on the first (8GB) partition? > Is the FAT16 strategy safer/better for some reason? > > > > ** > http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list > http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives > > ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- > Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be > addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text > on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe > TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- > Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest > ** > > > ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] win2k source directory
Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 05:21:47 +0700 From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] win2k source directory > Winnt.exe will start the install, it helps a LOT to run smartdrv before > you do it though. Just curious(!!!)... why? ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: overlay programs [LIB]
Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 05:21:40 +0700 From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: overlay programs [LIB] >> I'm just curious - in a 20/30/40GB HDD L100/L110 >> scenario, if you're going to run Win'2K as your one >> and only OS - are these overlay programs totally >> redundant? And if not, what purpose would they serve >> in such a scenario? > > Primarily, I think you would have problems if you had > a total system crash and had to reboot from DOS to fix > it. At that point you could only see the 8gb, and if > the files you needed to fix whatever problem you had > were beyond that, they would be inaccessible. With the > overlay running, you could still access all your other > partitions in DOS. This is the only circumstance that > immediately comes to mind. Sounds to me like the overlay thing itself is introducing a significant level of FUD and increasing the chances that you're going to have the problems in the first place... Wouldn't it be a lot simpler/safer/reliable just to keep all the troubleshooting/recovery stuff in the first 8GB than to do the overlay thing? ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: overlay programs [LIB]
Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 05:16:34 +0700 From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: overlay programs [LIB] > Ya got me ;-) > > Maybe for paranoid freaks that want to be able to boot to Win98 if > Win2K dies (oh wait, I'm normally one of those paranoid freaks, > I always partition 2Gig FAT for Win95/98 so I can boot to DOS if > necessary). I'm the same, hence I've still got my intact Win'98/4.3GB HDD - but apart from going back to retrieve my e-mail rules from the registry, I've never needed it. My boot-to-DOS option is as follows:- Start || Settings || Control Panel || System System Properties || Advanced || Startup and Recovery System startup -- Default operating system = [Microsoft Windows 2000 Pro..." /fastdetect] -- Display List of operating systems for: = [checked] seconds: = [2] So when I boot, I get the option (just for 2 seconds) to intervene, before it proceeds with Win'2K automatically. If I take the Win'98 option... because I don't have Win'98 installed... it boots instantaneously to a fully-functional DOS prompt (although I've never actually needed it). And of course I can boot to DOS from a floppy too... > I always partition 2Gig FAT for Win95/98 so I can boot to DOS if > necessary). You mean 2Gig Fat16? My first 8GB is Fat32... DOS appears to see that no problem (in fact, it sees all the partitions - ie the entire 30GB) - could I have some problem with that on the first (8GB) partition? Is the FAT16 strategy safer/better for some reason? ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] fdisk cannot partition 8.4gb
Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 21:58:53 + From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] fdisk cannot partition 8.4gb >From: "Kevin McClelland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >I have a copy on my HDD, I can email it to someone if >they can take the size, or upload it to someone if they >can host it. Unfortunately I do not have the capability >to host it myself. Don't remember offhand just how >large it is, I think around 1mb or so. I guess drCursor has given up on us. Would be a great service for him to archive it on his site. Matt (Shel) _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: overlay programs [LIB]
Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 14:26:15 -0700 (PDT) From: "Kevin McClelland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: overlay programs [LIB] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote > > Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 03:20:01 +0700 > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: overlay programs [LIB] > > >> I'm just curious - in a 20/30/40GB HDD L100/L110 scenario, if you're > going > >> to run Win'2K as your one and only OS - are these overlay programs > totally > >> redundant? And if not, what purpose would they serve in such a scenario? > > > > They are redundant if you are ONLY going to run Win2K. > > If you are going to dualboot with Win95/98, you'll need them. > > One more, again for no reason other than idle curiosity - what are the > typical / most likely scenarios now where Win'95 and/or Win'98 are > preferrable to Win'2K on an L100/L110 with 64MB and a 20/30/40GB HDD? > The only reason I have Win95 on mine is to run some older programs I still use that will not run under Win2K, and to still use the IR port the way it was intended to be used. I can only fully backup or sync my PDA under Win95, as IR transfer does not work with it under Win2K. I also have a Canon BJC-80 IR printer that I drag around on long trips from time to time, and I can only print to it under Win95 using IR, it will not work under Win2K, and Canon claims it not compatible with Win2K for IR printing only. Thos are the main reasons. Eventually I will no longer need some of these older programs and will do away with the Win95 partition, and go to a strict Win2K setup. Regards, Kevin - Get your free @Elvis e-mail account at Elvis.com! http://www.elvis.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] fdisk cannot partition 8.4gb
Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 14:17:56 -0700 (PDT) From: "Kevin McClelland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] fdisk cannot partition 8.4gb Tom Stangl wrote > > Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 12:53:22 -0700 > From: Tom Stangl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [LIB] fdisk cannot partition 8.4gb > > OK, I loaded Fixup using IE because the formatting SUCKED for Communicator, and it > wouldn't let me access the download in IE. But it loaded fine in Communicator. > > http://www.fixup.net/tips/20gb/20gb.htm > > http://www.fixup.net/download/wd/- this is the EZBios image > http://www.winimage.com/download.htm - here's where you get WinImage to create a floppy > from the EZBios image. > > Remember, this will only work with WD and IBM drives, so if you don't have a Travelstar > HD, you'll need to use EZBios on a desktop with a WD or IBM drive to get it to work > (according to Xin's page). > The problem I ran into was that the newer version of EZBIOS on Xins site would not recognize my IBM, and thus would not install. It was not until I found the v9.09 that I finally got it to work. Something to do with the newer Travelstar drives, primarily the ones larger than 20gb. Kevin - Get your free @Elvis e-mail account at Elvis.com! http://www.elvis.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: overlay programs [LIB]
Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 14:12:57 -0700 (PDT) From: "Kevin McClelland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: overlay programs [LIB] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote > > Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 02:45:02 +0700 > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: overlay programs [LIB] > > I'm just curious - in a 20/30/40GB HDD L100/L110 scenario, if you're going > to run Win'2K as your one and only OS - are these overlay programs totally > redundant? And if not, what purpose would they serve in such a scenario? > Primarily, I think you would have problems if you had a total system crash and had to reboot from DOS to fix it. At that point you could only see the 8gb, and if the files you needed to fix whatever problem you had were beyond that, they would be inaccessible. With the overlay running, you could still access all your other partitions in DOS. This is the only circumstance that immediately comes to mind. Kevin - Get your free @Elvis e-mail account at Elvis.com! http://www.elvis.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] fdisk cannot partition 8.4gb
Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 14:04:55 -0700 (PDT) From: "Kevin McClelland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] fdisk cannot partition 8.4gb "Matthew Hanson" wrote > > Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 19:05:12 + > From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [LIB] fdisk cannot partition 8.4gb > > >From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >Play it safe, get an overlay program and do it properly. > > Does David, or someone else, still have a link posted to the proper version > of EZDrive with EZBios (9.09?) that a lot of us have used? It took him a > while to track down a copy, and might not be easy for someone setting up a > > 8MB HDD these days to find. > > Matt (Shel) > I have a copy on my HDD, I can email it to someone if they can take the size, or upload it to someone if they can host it. Unfortunately I do not have the capability to host it myself. Don't remember offhand just how large it is, I think around 1mb or so. - Get your free @Elvis e-mail account at Elvis.com! http://www.elvis.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: overlay programs [LIB]
Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 13:38:19 -0700 From: Tom Stangl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: overlay programs [LIB] Ya got me ;-) Maybe for paranoid freaks that want to be able to boot to Win98 if Win2K dies (oh wait, I'm normally one of those paranoid freaks, I always partition 2Gig FAT for Win95/98 so I can boot to DOS if necessary). But for these large drives, booting to Win95/98 without an overlay is a REALLY bad idea. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 03:20:01 +0700 > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: overlay programs [LIB] > > >> I'm just curious - in a 20/30/40GB HDD L100/L110 scenario, if you're > going > >> to run Win'2K as your one and only OS - are these overlay programs > totally > >> redundant? And if not, what purpose would they serve in such a scenario? > > > > They are redundant if you are ONLY going to run Win2K. > > If you are going to dualboot with Win95/98, you'll need them. > > One more, again for no reason other than idle curiosity - what are the > typical / most likely scenarios now where Win'95 and/or Win'98 are > preferrable to Win'2K on an L100/L110 with 64MB and a 20/30/40GB HDD? -- | Tom Stangl, Sun ONE Internet Technical Support, Sun Microsystems | iPlanet Support - http://www.sun.com/service/support/software/iplanet/index.html | Please do not associate my personal views with my employer ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
RE: [LIB] win2k source directory
Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 12:58:11 -0700 From: "Eamon Ho" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [LIB] win2k source directory Winnt.exe will start the install, it helps a LOT to run smartdrv before you do it though. -Original Message- From: Tom Stangl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 12:31 PM To: Libretto Subject: Re: [LIB] win2k source directory Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 12:25:22 -0700 From: Tom Stangl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] win2k source directory Interesting, mine reports 289MB with 295MB on disk. I looked at the i386 directory, and the only executables I see are: ARCLDR.ECE ARCSETUP.EXE AUTOCHK.EXE AUTOFMT.EXE DTCSETUP.EXE EXPAND.EXE NTSD.EXE REGEDIT.EXE TELNET.EXE USETUP.EXE WINNT.EXE WINNT32.EXE Which is the "setup" executable to install? It looks like I might need the SETUP.EXE from the root dir of the CD. Do I need any of the other root dir files? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 01:42:08 +0700 > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [LIB] win2k source directory > > > The source directory for win2k install off the CD is i386, not > > winnt. > > Ops! - I was the source of that misinformation - sorry! So, yes > i386. Thanks, Konrad, and apologies to all. > > FWIW, the answer I couldn't give previously:- > Size: 289 MB (303,681,964 bytes) > Size on disk: 301 MB (315,768,832 bytes) -- | Tom Stangl, Sun ONE Internet Technical Support, Sun Microsystems | iPlanet Support - http://www.sun.com/service/support/software/iplanet/index.html | Please do not associate my personal views with my employer ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest ** ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] fdisk cannot partition 8.4gb
Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 12:53:22 -0700 From: Tom Stangl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] fdisk cannot partition 8.4gb OK, I loaded Fixup using IE because the formatting SUCKED for Communicator, and it wouldn't let me access the download in IE. But it loaded fine in Communicator. http://www.fixup.net/tips/20gb/20gb.htm http://www.fixup.net/download/wd/- this is the EZBios image http://www.winimage.com/download.htm - here's where you get WinImage to create a floppy from the EZBios image. Remember, this will only work with WD and IBM drives, so if you don't have a Travelstar HD, you'll need to use EZBios on a desktop with a WD or IBM drive to get it to work (according to Xin's page). Tom Stangl wrote: > Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 12:21:13 -0700 > From: Tom Stangl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [LIB] fdisk cannot partition 8.4gb > > http://www.fixup.net/ > > http://www.fixup.net/tips/20gb/20gb.htm - crud, the link there doesn't work > :-/ > > Note from that page: > "Among the many overlay programs, -- all are free from major hard drive > manufacturers, I've found the EZMaker from Western Digital is the only one > that's fully compatible to all versions of Windows, including > Win95/98/SE/Me/NT/2000. But, it refuses to install if it cannot see a WD or IBM > drive around. . In order to make your life easier, buy a IBM drive instead of > Toshiba. Otherwise, you have to mount the drive to a desktop that has a WD or > IBM drive to install EZMaker. " > > Archives: > http://www.technoir.nu/libretto/list/ > > http://www.technoir.nu/cgi-bin/libsearch.cgi?query=EZBios&ichoice=libretto&results=25 > > Dave's Adorable site used to have it at http://160.87.24.214/ezdrv909.zip - > doesn't work now :-/ > > I guess we'd better find a new copy somewhere and have someone host it. > > Matthew Hanson wrote: > > > Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 19:05:12 + > > From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: [LIB] fdisk cannot partition 8.4gb > > > > >From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > >Play it safe, get an overlay program and do it properly. > > > > Does David, or someone else, still have a link posted to the proper version > > of EZDrive with EZBios (9.09?) that a lot of us have used? It took him a > > while to track down a copy, and might not be easy for someone setting up a > > > 8MB HDD these days to find. > > > > Matt (Shel) -- | Tom Stangl, Sun ONE Internet Technical Support, Sun Microsystems | iPlanet Support - http://www.sun.com/service/support/software/iplanet/index.html | Please do not associate my personal views with my employer ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: overlay programs [LIB]
Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 03:20:01 +0700 From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: overlay programs [LIB] >> I'm just curious - in a 20/30/40GB HDD L100/L110 scenario, if you're going >> to run Win'2K as your one and only OS - are these overlay programs totally >> redundant? And if not, what purpose would they serve in such a scenario? > > They are redundant if you are ONLY going to run Win2K. > If you are going to dualboot with Win95/98, you'll need them. One more, again for no reason other than idle curiosity - what are the typical / most likely scenarios now where Win'95 and/or Win'98 are preferrable to Win'2K on an L100/L110 with 64MB and a 20/30/40GB HDD? ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] win2k source directory
Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 03:14:18 +0700 From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] win2k source directory > Interesting, mine reports 289MB with 295MB on disk. My "on disk" is on a 7.77GB FAT32 partition on my 30GB Fujitsu. 5307 files, 92 folders. > I looked at the i386 directory, and the only executables I see are: > ARCLDR.ECE > ARCSETUP.EXE > AUTOCHK.EXE > AUTOFMT.EXE > DTCSETUP.EXE > EXPAND.EXE > NTSD.EXE > REGEDIT.EXE > TELNET.EXE > USETUP.EXE > WINNT.EXE > WINNT32.EXE > > Which is the "setup" executable to install? It looks like I might need the > SETUP.EXE from the root dir of the CD. Do I need any of the other root dir > files? I copied nothing other than that one directory and everything within it. WINNT.EXE did the deed for me, first time, without a single hitch. ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] win2k source directory
Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 12:57:56 -0700 From: Tom Stangl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] win2k source directory Well, since I have an IBM Microdrive along with all my CF cards, I just copied the entire CD over, and will drop it into a Win2K-CD directory on the 8Gig partition for the install. That way, I ALWAYS have all the files accessible. Lawrence Young wrote: > Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 15:46:20 -0400 > From: "Lawrence Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [LIB] win2k source directory > > If memory serves me right, you should run WINNT.EXE under dos and > WINNT32.EXE under windows. > > - Original Message - > From: "Tom Stangl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Libretto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 3:31 PM > Subject: Re: [LIB] win2k source directory > > > Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 12:25:22 -0700 > > From: Tom Stangl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: [LIB] win2k source directory > > > > Interesting, mine reports 289MB with 295MB on disk. > > > > I looked at the i386 directory, and the only executables I see are: > > ARCLDR.ECE > > ARCSETUP.EXE > > AUTOCHK.EXE > > AUTOFMT.EXE > > DTCSETUP.EXE > > EXPAND.EXE > > NTSD.EXE > > REGEDIT.EXE > > TELNET.EXE > > USETUP.EXE > > WINNT.EXE > > WINNT32.EXE > > > > Which is the "setup" executable to install? It looks like I might need > the > > SETUP.EXE from the root dir of the CD. Do I need any of the other root > dir > > files? > > > > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 01:42:08 +0700 > > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Subject: Re: [LIB] win2k source directory > > > > > > > The source directory for win2k install off the CD is i386, not winnt. > > > > > > Ops! - I was the source of that misinformation - sorry! > > > So, yes i386. Thanks, Konrad, and apologies to all. > > > > > > FWIW, the answer I couldn't give previously:- > > > Size: 289 MB (303,681,964 bytes) > > > Size on disk: 301 MB (315,768,832 bytes) -- | Tom Stangl, Sun ONE Internet Technical Support, Sun Microsystems | iPlanet Support - http://www.sun.com/service/support/software/iplanet/index.html | Please do not associate my personal views with my employer ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] fdisk cannot partition 8.4gb
Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 20:50:28 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Digby Tarvin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] fdisk cannot partition 8.4gb > > > >I measured the hibernation start as 8,373,335,040 on my 100CT, but the > >BIOS may be holding back a little more for some reason. Probably rounding > >to the nearest cylinder boundry according the the mapped geometry > >(multiple of 16065 sectors). Of course aligning to virtual cylinder > >boundries is completely pointless, but that is Microsoft for you.. > > Why do we keep talking about the 8GB boundary? Its the 1024 cylinder > boundary, it just so happens that most of the drives have the same number > of bytes per cylinder. Problem is you'll get bitten if you come across some > other drive with a different config that you're not aware of. Much safer > IMHO to just partition based on the cylinders (use Linux FDISK/CFDISK or > *gasp* Partition Magic if you want). Note that cylinder 1024 isn't the > limit of where you want to partition, its more like cylinder 1013 > (remember, the libretto can only SEE up to 1024 natively so it'll shove its > hibernation junk just before it). Perhaps a search of this list for the > numbers 1013 and 1014 will turn up some more info ... Not really. The DJSA-220 has a physical geometry of 16 heads and 63 sectors/track. A 1024 cylinder limit would cut you off at at around 500MB. To get around this, the BIOS uses a 'mapped' geometry of 255 heads, 63 sectors per track and 1024 cylinders - the limit imposed on all three quantities by the original IDE hardware interface. Thus the BIOS limit is 1024x255x63x512 = 8,422,686,720 regardless of the geometry of the drive. In the case of the DJSA-220 this gives access to the first 16383 cylinders out of a total of 38760. The drive actually has '16383 cylinders' printed on the label, indicating what the BIOS will see. > >You don't have to reserve space for the hibernation partion if using > >windows FDISK. It gets the drive size from the BIOS, which automatically > >subtracts what it needs. > > GAH! NO NO NO NO! ABSOLUPTLY NOT! > > Definitely not if you're using an overlay, otherwise I've had weird > problems with that on my 20 gig drive. I think its a combination of the > fact that booted into a DOS boot disk without overlay only sees 8 gig and > the fact that the Libby's BIOS by itself only seeing 1024 cylinders then > trying to figure out what to do with hibernation. Play it safe, do it > properly. You can't do it properly without fixing the BIOS. Anything else is a kludge, and can't be more than an educated guess which you need to confirm by forcing a hibernate and confirming that it goes where you expected What I was refering to was booting using booting the W95 that came with the machine and using the supplied FDISK. Not overlay, no third party tools, no alternate operating system. It then appears to treats it like an 8GB drive and leaves the hibernation space that would be appropriate for that circumstance. I have never used an overlay, because there is no way I would want to waste more the 8GB on Windows. > >That is the advantage of doing the FDISK on > >the Libretto rather than on a desktop. In fact it reserves 64M for > >hibernation, and an additional 12GB out of stupidity. > > Heh .. there's Windows for you. I just use Windows FDISK to create a 6 gig > partition (ie. well away from the hibernation partition, assuming 1024 > cylinders is around 8 gig) then use Partition Magic or Linux FDISK/CFDISK > to do the exact partitioning around the hibernation area (where you can see > and/or work in terms of cylinders). Or at least in multiples of 16065 sectors - not really cylinders. > >The point where you have to be careful is when you use a more powerful > >os which knows about the entire disk to allocate the space on the > >other side of the hibernation area. > > Umm ... you've lost me. My install of Win98SE on my libby can see the > partition that goes from the 18 gig to the 20 gig mark on my hard drive ... > I mean DOS FDISK lets you partition up to 8GB minus a bit. You can then use Linux FDISK etc to partition from the other side of the hibernation area (8GB plus a bit) to the end of the disk. In practice. having identified the where the BIOS thinks the disk ends, you probably want re-partition on both sides of the hibernation area. In my case, having used the second fdisk partition to determine the end of the disk as far as the BIOS is concerned, I booted Linux, removed the second partition and then created two more primary partitions within the 8GB area, and an extended partiton that went to the end of the disk. Then create logical drives, one of which straddles the hibernation area. > >Don't know about the 1137MB limit. Did you enable support for large > >disks when starting FDISK? > > 1137MB limit? Where did that come from? I'm intrigued ... > I see you found the reference in the original post. Regards, DigbyT -- Digby R. S. Tarvin
[LIB] WD EZ-Drive Generic Version
Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 16:02:45 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: WD EZ-Drive Generic Version This EZ-Drive 9.09 download may be the version David (Adorable Libretto page) posted. I have not used it, so cannot verify. Found it in a Google search before David posted his copy. http://www.uwm.edu/People/aleinss/ezdrive.zip";>Click here: Adam's File Page Lee ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: overlay programs [LIB]
Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 12:56:33 -0700 From: Tom Stangl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: overlay programs [LIB] They are redundant if you are ONLY going to run Win2K. If you are going to dualboot with Win95/98, you'll need them. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 02:45:02 +0700 > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: overlay programs [LIB] > > I'm just curious - in a 20/30/40GB HDD L100/L110 scenario, if you're going > to run Win'2K as your one and only OS - are these overlay programs totally > redundant? And if not, what purpose would they serve in such a scenario? -- | Tom Stangl, Sun ONE Internet Technical Support, Sun Microsystems | iPlanet Support - http://www.sun.com/service/support/software/iplanet/index.html | Please do not associate my personal views with my employer ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] win2k source directory
Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 15:46:20 -0400 From: "Lawrence Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] win2k source directory If memory serves me right, you should run WINNT.EXE under dos and WINNT32.EXE under windows. - Original Message - From: "Tom Stangl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Libretto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 3:31 PM Subject: Re: [LIB] win2k source directory > Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 12:25:22 -0700 > From: Tom Stangl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [LIB] win2k source directory > > Interesting, mine reports 289MB with 295MB on disk. > > I looked at the i386 directory, and the only executables I see are: > ARCLDR.ECE > ARCSETUP.EXE > AUTOCHK.EXE > AUTOFMT.EXE > DTCSETUP.EXE > EXPAND.EXE > NTSD.EXE > REGEDIT.EXE > TELNET.EXE > USETUP.EXE > WINNT.EXE > WINNT32.EXE > > Which is the "setup" executable to install? It looks like I might need the > SETUP.EXE from the root dir of the CD. Do I need any of the other root dir > files? > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 01:42:08 +0700 > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: [LIB] win2k source directory > > > > > The source directory for win2k install off the CD is i386, not winnt. > > > > Ops! - I was the source of that misinformation - sorry! > > So, yes i386. Thanks, Konrad, and apologies to all. > > > > FWIW, the answer I couldn't give previously:- > > Size: 289 MB (303,681,964 bytes) > > Size on disk: 301 MB (315,768,832 bytes) > > -- > | Tom Stangl, Sun ONE Internet Technical Support, Sun Microsystems > | iPlanet Support - > http://www.sun.com/service/support/software/iplanet/index.html > | Please do not associate my personal views with my employer > > > > > > ** > http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list > http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives > > ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- > Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be > addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text > on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe > TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- > Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest > ** > > ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
overlay programs [LIB]
Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 02:45:02 +0700 From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: overlay programs [LIB] I'm just curious - in a 20/30/40GB HDD L100/L110 scenario, if you're going to run Win'2K as your one and only OS - are these overlay programs totally redundant? And if not, what purpose would they serve in such a scenario? ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] win2k source directory
Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 12:25:22 -0700 From: Tom Stangl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] win2k source directory Interesting, mine reports 289MB with 295MB on disk. I looked at the i386 directory, and the only executables I see are: ARCLDR.ECE ARCSETUP.EXE AUTOCHK.EXE AUTOFMT.EXE DTCSETUP.EXE EXPAND.EXE NTSD.EXE REGEDIT.EXE TELNET.EXE USETUP.EXE WINNT.EXE WINNT32.EXE Which is the "setup" executable to install? It looks like I might need the SETUP.EXE from the root dir of the CD. Do I need any of the other root dir files? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 01:42:08 +0700 > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [LIB] win2k source directory > > > The source directory for win2k install off the CD is i386, not winnt. > > Ops! - I was the source of that misinformation - sorry! > So, yes i386. Thanks, Konrad, and apologies to all. > > FWIW, the answer I couldn't give previously:- > Size: 289 MB (303,681,964 bytes) > Size on disk: 301 MB (315,768,832 bytes) -- | Tom Stangl, Sun ONE Internet Technical Support, Sun Microsystems | iPlanet Support - http://www.sun.com/service/support/software/iplanet/index.html | Please do not associate my personal views with my employer ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] fdisk cannot partition 8.4gb
Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 12:21:13 -0700 From: Tom Stangl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] fdisk cannot partition 8.4gb http://www.fixup.net/ http://www.fixup.net/tips/20gb/20gb.htm - crud, the link there doesn't work :-/ Note from that page: "Among the many overlay programs, -- all are free from major hard drive manufacturers, I've found the EZMaker from Western Digital is the only one that's fully compatible to all versions of Windows, including Win95/98/SE/Me/NT/2000. But, it refuses to install if it cannot see a WD or IBM drive around. . In order to make your life easier, buy a IBM drive instead of Toshiba. Otherwise, you have to mount the drive to a desktop that has a WD or IBM drive to install EZMaker. " Archives: http://www.technoir.nu/libretto/list/ http://www.technoir.nu/cgi-bin/libsearch.cgi?query=EZBios&ichoice=libretto&results=25 Dave's Adorable site used to have it at http://160.87.24.214/ezdrv909.zip - doesn't work now :-/ I guess we'd better find a new copy somewhere and have someone host it. Matthew Hanson wrote: > Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 19:05:12 + > From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [LIB] fdisk cannot partition 8.4gb > > >From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >Play it safe, get an overlay program and do it properly. > > Does David, or someone else, still have a link posted to the proper version > of EZDrive with EZBios (9.09?) that a lot of us have used? It took him a > while to track down a copy, and might not be easy for someone setting up a > > 8MB HDD these days to find. > > Matt (Shel) > > _ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > > ** > http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list > http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives > > ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- > Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be > addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text > on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe > TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- > Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest > ** -- | Tom Stangl, Sun ONE Internet Technical Support, Sun Microsystems | iPlanet Support - http://www.sun.com/service/support/software/iplanet/index.html | Please do not associate my personal views with my employer ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] fdisk cannot partition 8.4gb
Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 19:05:12 + From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] fdisk cannot partition 8.4gb >From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Play it safe, get an overlay program and do it properly. Does David, or someone else, still have a link posted to the proper version of EZDrive with EZBios (9.09?) that a lot of us have used? It took him a while to track down a copy, and might not be easy for someone setting up a > 8MB HDD these days to find. Matt (Shel) _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] win2k source directory
Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 01:42:08 +0700 From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] win2k source directory > The source directory for win2k install off the CD is i386, not winnt. Ops! - I was the source of that misinformation - sorry! So, yes i386. Thanks, Konrad, and apologies to all. FWIW, the answer I couldn't give previously:- Size: 289 MB (303,681,964 bytes) Size on disk: 301 MB (315,768,832 bytes) ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: Re[4]: [LIB] New Libretto L5
Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 12:40:50 -0400 From: "David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Re[4]: [LIB] New Libretto L5 Jason as a purchaser of a Libretto 1100v from you, I must say that I for one feel let down. I don't know if your support of the 1100v is typical of your support, but I must say it was a lot less than what I had hoped for. David - Original Message - From: "Jason/Dynamism" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Libretto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 12:20 PM Subject: RE: Re[4]: [LIB] New Libretto L5 Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 11:15:06 -0700 From: "Jason/Dynamism" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Re[4]: [LIB] New Libretto L5 There is no doubt that Dynamism is not the cheapest option, but we do offer more value for your money. We offer toll-free tech support. We maintain offices in the United States, and in Japan--we are not a one-guy shop that could go on hiatus when someone takes vacation or wants a career change. We have the earliest and most far-reaching access to products. We take all major credit cards, do leasing, accept purchase orders from major corporations, and offer local bank payment in more than thirty countries. With four uninterrupted years of growth, we are the most acclaimed worldwide source for Japanese notebooks and electronics. We are fixated on offering extreme customer service. And, we value everyone's business--customers and potential customers. We believe we have a track record of unmatched reliability and customer service, and we work hard every day to fulfill our and our customers' expectations. So, we don't want to lose your business on a price basis alone. If you are in the market to purchase a Libretto, or other Japanese notebook, please contact us to let us know what you are looking for, and what options you are looking at. We will do our best to earn your business. Thank you, Jason / Dynamism Sales -Original Message- From: Daniel Seiden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 9:31 AM To: Libretto Subject: Re[4]: [LIB] New Libretto L5 Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 09:28:57 -0700 From: Daniel Seiden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re[4]: [LIB] New Libretto L5 Hello From what I have heard they offer very good service. I have a friend who purchased a unit from them and has been very happy with the service and support that he has received. I personally would rather get it directly from Japan and work on it myself. :-) Dan PW> Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 11:22:34 -0400 PW> From: Pres Waterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PW> Subject: Re: Re[2]: [LIB] New Libretto L5 PW> I spoke with Dynamism yesterday, and although they do NOT accept the Toshiba PW> FDC settlement freecard, they do offer a courtesy discount up to $200 if you PW> have one. Since they are absorbing this, I think it is a nice gesture and PW> well worth a strong consideration. PW> Thanks PW> Pres Waterman W2PW PW> c/o Patchogue Motors, Inc. PW> Long Island Ford and Kia dealer PW> GO BILLS! PW> Dreeeww! PW> ©¿© PW> ** PW> http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list PW> http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives PW> ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- PW> Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be PW> addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text PW> on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe PW> TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- PW> Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest PW> ** * Daniel Seiden Internet Services - http://www.basiclink.com Dan's Digital Images - http://dan.digitalphotochat.com Digital Photo Chat - http://www.digitalphotochat.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest ** ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
RE: Re[4]: [LIB] New Libretto L5
Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 11:15:06 -0700 From: "Jason/Dynamism" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Re[4]: [LIB] New Libretto L5 There is no doubt that Dynamism is not the cheapest option, but we do offer more value for your money. We offer toll-free tech support. We maintain offices in the United States, and in Japan--we are not a one-guy shop that could go on hiatus when someone takes vacation or wants a career change. We have the earliest and most far-reaching access to products. We take all major credit cards, do leasing, accept purchase orders from major corporations, and offer local bank payment in more than thirty countries. With four uninterrupted years of growth, we are the most acclaimed worldwide source for Japanese notebooks and electronics. We are fixated on offering extreme customer service. And, we value everyone's business--customers and potential customers. We believe we have a track record of unmatched reliability and customer service, and we work hard every day to fulfill our and our customers' expectations. So, we don't want to lose your business on a price basis alone. If you are in the market to purchase a Libretto, or other Japanese notebook, please contact us to let us know what you are looking for, and what options you are looking at. We will do our best to earn your business. Thank you, Jason / Dynamism Sales -Original Message- From: Daniel Seiden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 9:31 AM To: Libretto Subject: Re[4]: [LIB] New Libretto L5 Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 09:28:57 -0700 From: Daniel Seiden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re[4]: [LIB] New Libretto L5 Hello From what I have heard they offer very good service. I have a friend who purchased a unit from them and has been very happy with the service and support that he has received. I personally would rather get it directly from Japan and work on it myself. :-) Dan PW> Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 11:22:34 -0400 PW> From: Pres Waterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PW> Subject: Re: Re[2]: [LIB] New Libretto L5 PW> I spoke with Dynamism yesterday, and although they do NOT accept the Toshiba PW> FDC settlement freecard, they do offer a courtesy discount up to $200 if you PW> have one. Since they are absorbing this, I think it is a nice gesture and PW> well worth a strong consideration. PW> Thanks PW> Pres Waterman W2PW PW> c/o Patchogue Motors, Inc. PW> Long Island Ford and Kia dealer PW> GO BILLS! PW> Dreeeww! PW> ©¿© PW> ** PW> http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list PW> http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives PW> ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- PW> Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be PW> addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text PW> on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe PW> TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- PW> Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest PW> ** * Daniel Seiden Internet Services - http://www.basiclink.com Dan's Digital Images - http://dan.digitalphotochat.com Digital Photo Chat - http://www.digitalphotochat.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest ** ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] 100CT overclocking (again)
Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 08:29:04 -0700 (PDT) From: "Kevin McClelland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] 100CT overclocking (again) "Lines, Nick" wrote > > Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 09:16:39 -0500 > From: "Lines, Nick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: 100CT overclocking (again) > > I'm trying to find a definitive answer on overclocking > the 100CT, as I'm confused. This is a fairly natural > state for me to be in. :-) > > 200MHz seems rock stable on all machines, 233MHz seems > like a good option but is a swine to do and 266MHz is > not without risk. > > However, how do I overclock. > > I've looked at David's site and looked at his picture, > but then the text lower down on the site says something > else to what's in the picture. > > Dr Xin's page is good, but looks different again, saying > that I have to remove a resistor for 200MHz. > > And finally, this Swiss page says something different > again. > http://home.datacomm.ch/psumesgutner/libretto/en/oc_100_c.htm > > Before I blow things up, what's the "right" way to get > 200MHz, or should I just try 266MHz? > > And is there an easy way to get 233? > > Thanks, > > Nick. > I used Xin's instructions on his page to OC my L100 from 166 to 266 with no problems. Pretty delicate procedure though, very small and precise soldering is required. DO NOT use any soldering iron stronger than 15W, otherwise you run a risk of damaging some of the nearby resistors due to the excessive heat. Been a while since I looked at the 233 procedure though, so I cannot comment on that. I suppose if you wanted to you could send it to Xin to do, as he does perform the service. I think right now if you send it to him for his new PS2 port solution, he will do the OC at no charge. - Get your free @Elvis e-mail account at Elvis.com! http://www.elvis.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] fdisk cannot partition 8.4gb
Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 22:05:08 +0800 From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] fdisk cannot partition 8.4gb At 02:35 AM 1/05/2002 -0700, you wrote: >Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 10:21:47 +0100 (GMT/BST) >From: Digby Tarvin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [LIB] fdisk cannot partition 8.4gb > >Hmm, I make 7,978MB = 8,365,539,328 which sounds close enough to me... > >(you do know 1GB is not 1000 MB right??? ) > >I measured the hibernation start as 8,373,335,040 on my 100CT, but the >BIOS may be holding back a little more for some reason. Probably rounding >to the nearest cylinder boundry according the the mapped geometry >(multiple of 16065 sectors). Of course aligning to virtual cylinder >boundries is completely pointless, but that is Microsoft for you.. Why do we keep talking about the 8GB boundary? Its the 1024 cylinder boundary, it just so happens that most of the drives have the same number of bytes per cylinder. Problem is you'll get bitten if you come across some other drive with a different config that you're not aware of. Much safer IMHO to just partition based on the cylinders (use Linux FDISK/CFDISK or *gasp* Partition Magic if you want). Note that cylinder 1024 isn't the limit of where you want to partition, its more like cylinder 1013 (remember, the libretto can only SEE up to 1024 natively so it'll shove its hibernation junk just before it). Perhaps a search of this list for the numbers 1013 and 1014 will turn up some more info ... >You don't have to reserve space for the hibernation partion if using >windows FDISK. It gets the drive size from the BIOS, which automatically >subtracts what it needs. GAH! NO NO NO NO! ABSOLUPTLY NOT! Definitely not if you're using an overlay, otherwise I've had weird problems with that on my 20 gig drive. I think its a combination of the fact that booted into a DOS boot disk without overlay only sees 8 gig and the fact that the Libby's BIOS by itself only seeing 1024 cylinders then trying to figure out what to do with hibernation. Play it safe, do it properly. >That is the advantage of doing the FDISK on >the Libretto rather than on a desktop. In fact it reserves 64M for >hibernation, and an additional 12GB out of stupidity. Heh .. there's Windows for you. I just use Windows FDISK to create a 6 gig partition (ie. well away from the hibernation partition, assuming 1024 cylinders is around 8 gig) then use Partition Magic or Linux FDISK/CFDISK to do the exact partitioning around the hibernation area (where you can see and/or work in terms of cylinders). >The point where you have to be careful is when you use a more powerful >os which knows about the entire disk to allocate the space on the >other side of the hibernation area. Umm ... you've lost me. My install of Win98SE on my libby can see the partition that goes from the 18 gig to the 20 gig mark on my hard drive ... >Don't know about the 1137MB limit. Did you enable support for large >disks when starting FDISK? 1137MB limit? Where did that come from? I'm intrigued ... Hope I've been of some help! - Raymond --- /~\ | | "Does fuzzy logic tickle?"| | ___ | "My HDD has no reverse. How do I backup?" | | /__/ +---| | / \ a y b o t | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | HTTP://www.raybot.net| | ICQ: 31756092 | Need help? Visit #Windows98 on DALNet! | \~/ ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: Re[2]: [LIB] li-ion cells
Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 16:38:24 +0200 From: "Gennadiy Tsygan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Re[2]: [LIB] li-ion cells II posted on Monday that cells did not fit. I even removed jackets form the cells and did a little bit of filing in the battery case. If somebody will be more creative, please post your experience. | |> I have not tried to put 18x64 mm cells in the battery because I only have |5 of |> them, but 17 mm seemed a tight fit. There is sticky tap in my battery, but |it |> is not foamy and very thin. I will try to replace the cells just to see if |they | |Great!! It'll be interesting to know if they can work. | ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
[LIB] win2k source directory
Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 09:01:09 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: win2k source directory The source directory for win2k install off the CD is i386, not winnt. That is the destination install default directory. Konrad ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] fdisk cannot partition 8.4gb
Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 22:07:32 +0800 From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] fdisk cannot partition 8.4gb At 10:50 PM 30/04/2002 -0700, you wrote: >Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 05:44:35 + >From: "Cerulean Skies" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: fdisk cannot partition 8.4gb > >So I'm finally taking the big step and am in the process of upgrading my >HD to a 20GB one. I'm following some advice I saw on the list a while >ago, using a windows boot disk's fdisk to partition out the first 8.4 >minus hibernation space, and a second hibernation partition, then use a >disk manager to partition the rest. However, when I tried to fdisk, it >can only see 7978 MB, and will only let me parition 1137 MB. Any ideas as >to why? Ah I see what you mean (refer to my previous post about not having heard of that limit). Windows FDISK has a bug in it which means that in a way it actually DOES see above 8 gig, it just wraps around (so if you've got a 9 gig hard drive it'll let you go to about 1 gig or so because its wrapped around). Play it safe, get an overlay program and do it properly. I *THINK* Windows FDISK will behave with an overlay, if not use Partition Magic or Linux FDISK. Alternatively, I think there's a freeware program out there called Ranish partition manager (or something like that), I've got a colleague that swears by that but I've never used it myself. Apparently it lets you do all that stuff as well. - Raymond --- /~\ | | "Does fuzzy logic tickle?"| | ___ | "My HDD has no reverse. How do I backup?" | | /__/ +---| | / \ a y b o t | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | HTTP://www.raybot.net| | ICQ: 31756092 | Need help? Visit #Windows98 on DALNet! | \~/ ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] fdisk cannot partition 8.4gb
Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 07:07:45 -0700 (PDT) From: "Kevin McClelland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] fdisk cannot partition 8.4gb On Tue, 30 April 2002, "Cerulean Skies" wrote > > Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 05:44:35 + > From: "Cerulean Skies" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: fdisk cannot partition 8.4gb > > So I'm finally taking the big step and am in the process of upgrading my HD > to a 20GB one. I'm following some advice I saw on the list a while ago, > using a windows boot disk's fdisk to partition out the first 8.4 minus > hibernation space, and a second hibernation partition, then use a disk > manager to partition the rest. However, when I tried to fdisk, it can only > see 7978 MB, and will only let me parition 1137 MB. Any ideas as to why? > I'm using a Win95 OSR2 boot disk, my BIOS hasn't been upgraded (it's still > 6.40), the HD is an IBM-DJSA-220. > > Shultz I would probably upgrade your BIOS first, then perform the install. Will you be putting Win9x back on the new drive, or going to Win2K or XP? When I replaced mine I think FDISK only saw the 8gb or so. I used EZBIOS to get past the 8gb limitation and Partition Magic to sort out the hibernation space. Try the BIOS upgrade first, then try to FDISK again. That might solve part of your problem. - Get your free @Elvis e-mail account at Elvis.com! http://www.elvis.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
[LIB] 100CT overclocking (again)
Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 09:16:39 -0500 From: "Lines, Nick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: 100CT overclocking (again) I'm trying to find a definitive answer on overclocking the 100CT, as I'm confused. This is a fairly natural state for me to be in. :-) 200MHz seems rock stable on all machines, 233MHz seems like a good option but is a swine to do and 266MHz is not without risk. However, how do I overclock. I've looked at David's site and looked at his picture, but then the text lower down on the site says something else to what's in the picture. Dr Xin's page is good, but looks different again, saying that I have to remove a resistor for 200MHz. And finally, this Swiss page says something different again. http://home.datacomm.ch/psumesgutner/libretto/en/oc_100_c.htm Before I blow things up, what's the "right" way to get 200MHz, or should I just try 266MHz? And is there an easy way to get 233? Thanks, Nick. ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] win2k source directory
Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 22:17:39 +0800 From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] win2k source directory At 07:05 AM 1/05/2002 -0700, you wrote: >Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 09:01:09 -0500 >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: win2k source directory > >The source directory for win2k install off the CD is i386, not winnt. That >is the destination install default directory. *hits self* How the heck did I miss that ... hehe If you're copying it across under DOS, remember to use xcopy and not copy (to catch the subdirectories as well). - Raymond --- /~\ | | "Does fuzzy logic tickle?"| | ___ | "My HDD has no reverse. How do I backup?" | | /__/ +---| | / \ a y b o t | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | HTTP://www.raybot.net| | ICQ: 31756092 | Need help? Visit #Windows98 on DALNet! | \~/ ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Win2K installs on 100/110s
Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 21:54:48 +0800 From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] Win2K installs on 100/110s At 04:40 PM 30/04/2002 -0700, you wrote: >Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 16:37:32 -0700 >From: Tom Stangl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [LIB] Win2K installs on 100/110s > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 06:28:09 +0700 > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: [LIB] Win2K installs on 100/110s > > > > > What needs to be copied from the Win2K CD to the HD for the install? > > > > WINNT directory - that's it, just that one. > >How large is that directory? My Win2K CD is at home, not here... It'll fit comfortably into 500 meg ... watch your command line switches though, I can have a look but IIRC if you don't use a command line switch on the setup program it'll try to make a SECOND copy of the winnt directory (a little dumb if you ask me but thats how it seemed to work IIRC). > > > Are there any files outside of the Win2K CD you'll need? > >So the floppy drivers with Win2K will work? Yup ... in fact if you do an install, even on a desktop, and watch carefully during the preinstall text mode stage, the driver 'Libretto floppy' actually flies past the bottom of the screen (the same part that loads those esoteric drivers for things like Tseng Labs video cards, 10 year old Compaq SmartArrays, HP FibreChannel cards and so on) ... > > * including reserving the "hardware (BIOS) hibernate" space > > I'm not using any disk/overlay managers or anything like that. > >How much space, where? Just create the 8Gig, then leave about 1-200 Megs >after >that (formatted or not?), then the rest partitioned however I wish? Don't bother formatting that space .. in fact on my hard drive I've just left it as unpartitioned space (created a partition there to space the rest of the partitions over it then went back and deleted it). >I had forgotten that I don't need to worry about an overlay with Win2K, Be very careful. If the proverbial starts hitting the fan, you'll have one hellava time trying to get your DOS boot disks and partition recovery tools working (and you can't postemptively install the overlay either). Thats the same reason now I only format in NTFS when absoluptly necessary for security reasons ... makes data recovery too much of a headache. 2k doesn't seem to mind running under FAT32 ... > so I >guess I could use any 40Gig. Is IBM or Toshiba better? They cost about the >same. Flip a coin. Chances are the drive mechanics come from the same factory anyway. Perhaps aim for Toshiba if you're looking to overclock, I hear the IBM's electronics don't take kindly to raised bus speeds. - Raymond --- /~\ | | "Does fuzzy logic tickle?"| | ___ | "My HDD has no reverse. How do I backup?" | | /__/ +---| | / \ a y b o t | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | HTTP://www.raybot.net| | ICQ: 31756092 | Need help? Visit #Windows98 on DALNet! | \~/ ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Win2K installs on 100/110s
Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 06:58:17 -0700 (PDT) From: "Kevin McClelland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] Win2K installs on 100/110s On Tue, 30 April 2002, Tom Stangl wrote > > Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 15:59:09 -0700 > From: Tom Stangl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Win2K installs on 100/110s > > Hmmm, thought I sent this, but maybe Communicator crashed when the email > was open > > I know this has been discussed before, but does anyone have a SUMMARY of > all the steps necessary to install Win2K on a Lib 100/110? A lot depends on your set up, specifically your CDROM. On mine, I use a Backpack CDROM that has parallel capability, so I do not have to worry about CSS to get the PC card setup. When I installed my 30gb IBM, this is what I did. 1. Create a boot disk from Win9x, set up to boot and load your CDROM drivers 2. Install your new HDD 3. Boot from floppy, FDISK and format 4. I installed EZBIOS, it was the only one that worked and sine I also have Win95 as well, I needed it. 5. I set up a total of 4 partitions. The first two were under the 8gb limit, then two partitions that were roughly 10gb each. I also created a hidden partition at the 8gb boundary that covered the 1010-1040 cylinder area for BIOS hibernation and Win95 hibernation. I know the size works out to be about 250mb total, but I figured with 30gb I could spare the room. I just didn't feel like trying to reduce it to the smallest size possible. 6. Reboot with EZBIOS installed, boot from the floppy, and install Win2K from the CD, and it will handle the rest. On my particular install, I used the L100 recovery CDROM to install the Win95 portion onto C:, then installed Win2K from within Win95. and performed a clean install on D:, which automatically set up my boot menu as well. 7. Win2K will recognize everything in the Libretto, including the floppy drive. BIOS 8.0 is an absolute minimum to work properly with Win2K. I had Win2k running on my old HDD with v8.0 with no problems, then updated to 8.1 when it came out. No problems with the floppy in any install. Only had to install a couple updated drivers for PC cards and such that were more current than what was included with Win2K. That is pretty much it. I used Partition Magic 7.0 to fine tune the partitions, EZBIOS 9.09w. I have a L100, OC to 266 w/64mb. Drive is an IBM 30gb travelstar. I would highly reccomend the IBM, at least in their notebook drives. Bigger cache than Toshiba, and 3 year warranty. > > I'd like to install it, and if anyone has a summary, I'd be happy to build > an HTML page and post it, and any Libretto webmasters would be free to copy > it to their site. > > Key points: > What needs to be copied from the Win2K CD to the HD for the install? > Is there a Win\Options\CAB like on the Win98 CD, and if so, what is the > > path? Do you need any other files/directories? I think if you wanted to copy the install files to the HDD, and install from there, you copied the i386 directory, then you would not need the CD for the install. Never did it that way though, so I may be off on the directory. > > If you already have Win98 on the system, will the Win2K install: > Barf and quit > Ask if you want to install over Win98 > Ask if you want to install to a new directory > Ask if you want to set up a dualboot with Win98 > Tell you that you need to reinstall Win98 afterwards, and customize > it for dualboot (I don't THINK so, I think Win2K has to be > installed AFTER Win98 to avoid problems)? In order for dual boot to work automatically, it needs to be installed second. That is how I always did it, and never had a problem. If win98 is already on the machine, you can install Win2k from within Win98 via the CD, it will give you an option for a clean install, and just select the partition you want it to be on, and it will handle the rest. At least that is how it handled mine under Win95, so should do the same under Win98. > > Are there any files outside of the Win2K CD you'll need? > Floppy drivers? Win2K, or use Win98? > The only Win2K specific file I see on the Toshiba site for 110s is > the Power Extensions - should I use that one or the one from Win2K? I installed 2 or 3 Toshiba files after installing Win2k. I will need to dig through my drive and find them. One was the power extensions for Win2k. Another was the HW tools from Toshiba. There might have been a third set, but I can't seem to remember right now. > > What is the recommended BIOS level for Win2K on a 110? 6.5, 7.3, 8.0, or > 8.1? If you haven't upgraded to 8.1, you might as well do it. I think 8.0 was the version Toshiba released for the initial compatibility with Win2k, and 8.1 fixed a glitch with the 3.3/5.0v on the PC Card socket. > > > > I'm considering just buying a 40Gig IBM Travelstar, since they're only $148 > at newegg.com. Then I can install clean. All I'll need at that point is > another hard drive handle. Does anyon
[LIB] Battery charger question
Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 04:40:54 -0500 From: "Lines, Nick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Battery charger question Hi all I have a battery charger that I'm using a fair bit. When I plug a battery in, I occasionally get a red light appearing under the word "charge". The battery is good and charges well in the libretto. Any idea as to what this means? And can it be fixed? Nick. ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] fdisk cannot partition 8.4gb
Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 10:21:47 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: Digby Tarvin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] fdisk cannot partition 8.4gb Hmm, I make 7,978MB = 8,365,539,328 which sounds close enough to me... (you do know 1GB is not 1000 MB right??? ) I measured the hibernation start as 8,373,335,040 on my 100CT, but the BIOS may be holding back a little more for some reason. Probably rounding to the nearest cylinder boundry according the the mapped geometry (multiple of 16065 sectors). Of course aligning to virtual cylinder boundries is completely pointless, but that is Microsoft for you.. You don't have to reserve space for the hibernation partion if using windows FDISK. It gets the drive size from the BIOS, which automatically subtracts what it needs. That is the advantage of doing the FDISK on the Libretto rather than on a desktop. In fact it reserves 64M for hibernation, and an additional 12GB out of stupidity. The point where you have to be careful is when you use a more powerful os which knows about the entire disk to allocate the space on the other side of the hibernation area. Don't know about the 1137MB limit. Did you enable support for large disks when starting FDISK? Regards, DigbyT P.S. You didn't mention which Libretto you have - they may behave slightly differently. > Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 05:44:35 + > From: "Cerulean Skies" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: fdisk cannot partition 8.4gb > > So I'm finally taking the big step and am in the process of upgrading my HD > to a 20GB one. I'm following some advice I saw on the list a while ago, > using a windows boot disk's fdisk to partition out the first 8.4 minus > hibernation space, and a second hibernation partition, then use a disk > manager to partition the rest. However, when I tried to fdisk, it can only > see 7978 MB, and will only let me parition 1137 MB. Any ideas as to why? > I'm using a Win95 OSR2 boot disk, my BIOS hasn't been upgraded (it's still > 6.40), the HD is an IBM-DJSA-220. > > Shultz -- Digby R. S. Tarvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cthulhu.dircon.co.uk ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] fdisk cannot partition 8.4gb
Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 15:44:28 +0700
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Subject: Re: [LIB] fdisk cannot partition 8.4gb
> So I'm finally taking the big step and am in the process of upgrading
> my HD to a 20GB one. I'm following some advice I saw on the list a
> while ago, using a windows boot disk's fdisk to partition out the
> first 8.4 minus hibernation space, and a second hibernation partition,
> then use a disk manager to partition the rest. However, when I tried
> to fdisk, it can only see 7978 MB, and will only let me parition 1137
> MB. Any ideas as to why? I'm using a Win95 OSR2 boot disk, my BIOS
> hasn't been upgraded (it's still 6.40), the HD is an IBM-DJSA-220.
Don't know...
What model of Libretto?
What OS('s) are you going to run?
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