Re: [LIB] Can someone explain the following?!
Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 21:29:19 +0100 From: Philip Nienhuis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Can someone explain the following?! Hi Avi: As far as I understand your questions: Avi Cohen Stuart wrote: Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 12:18:17 +0100 From: Avi Cohen Stuart [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Can someone explain the following?! Case: Libretto 110 HD: 40 Gb First partition: Primary Partition approx 5 GB this will be the W2K root (FAT32) Second Partition: Primary Partition approx 2Gb this will contain the Installation files (FAT) I leave 102 Mb empty For hibernation? if so, it's probably at the wrong place. 5 GB + 2 GB = 7 GB; hibernation area should be around 8 GB. It starts at about 8.35 GB (7.775 GiB). Then I create a Logical Partition with 1 large NTFS partition You mean, you first create an extended partition, and then inside that a logical partition? The partitions I create on my XP Laptop using a USB-to-HD converter thingy (Kama Connect) Then I copy the W2K CD to the second partition. Remove the HD from the USB (on a nice way etc...) Insert the HD into the libretto Boot using a Win98 disk Do a cd C: looks OK cd D: Abort/Fail/Retry... Problem is almost certainly that DOS can only use 1 (one) primary FAT partition with some reliability. When I tried this myself long time ago, I remember it took DOS (Win98) a lng time to come up with an error message while still booting. It just didn't like 2 readable primary partitions + an extended one. If you have one of those primary partitions non-readable for DOS (e.g., NTFS) you'll have no problems. It's just DOS's drivers which cannot emulate drive letters for more than one primary partition. Remember, the extended partition (where your logical partitions live) is really a primary partition. GR!!! Go back to the XP delete the Logical Partition Boot again in Win98 and then I can access the D: driver WHY DO I HAVE TO DELETE THE LOGICAL Partiton!? AFAICT, because of limitations of DOS. Why not make: - A 5 GB primary partition - An extended (in fact, also primary) partition for the rest of the disk - Inside the extended partition: - A logical 2.7 GB for your W2K stuff, extending almost til the start of the hibernation area - 100 MB hibernation partition - Other logical partitions as you see fit - Then just delete the 100 MB hibernation partition to get rid of the drive letter it uses. Lots of this type of misery stuff has been described in the archives of the Lib mailing list (use www.webarchive.org to get to e.g., the technoir archive). Philip
RE: [LIB] Can someone explain the following?!
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 21:58:37 +0100 From: Avi Cohen Stuart [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [LIB] Can someone explain the following?! Hi Philip, Ok. I can live with it that DOS cannot handle it. My partition scheme was not particualary smart, I agree. In the end it didn't matter as I still get a BSOD with the margi DVD-to-Go with a vanilla W2K or W2K-SP4 or XP-SP2 in stream.sys. I've to get back to IDA Pro with Hex Rays and continue to reverse engineer it... or there is some nasty hard to find bug in the margi driver. (I have the source code...) Does any one know of a Daemon Tool hack that will allow me to use a kernel debugger? I'm using Fathom CD for my DVD emulation currently. Avi. -Original Message- From: Philip Nienhuis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 07 November, 2007 21:30 To: Libretto Subject: Re: [LIB] Can someone explain the following?! Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 21:29:19 +0100 From: Philip Nienhuis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Can someone explain the following?! Hi Avi: As far as I understand your questions: Avi Cohen Stuart wrote: Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 12:18:17 +0100 From: Avi Cohen Stuart [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Can someone explain the following?! Case: Libretto 110 HD: 40 Gb First partition: Primary Partition approx 5 GB this will be the W2K root (FAT32) Second Partition: Primary Partition approx 2Gb this will contain the Installation files (FAT) I leave 102 Mb empty For hibernation? if so, it's probably at the wrong place. 5 GB + 2 GB = 7 GB; hibernation area should be around 8 GB. It starts at about 8.35 GB (7.775 GiB). Then I create a Logical Partition with 1 large NTFS partition You mean, you first create an extended partition, and then inside that a logical partition? The partitions I create on my XP Laptop using a USB-to-HD converter thingy (Kama Connect) Then I copy the W2K CD to the second partition. Remove the HD from the USB (on a nice way etc...) Insert the HD into the libretto Boot using a Win98 disk Do a cd C: looks OK cd D: Abort/Fail/Retry... Problem is almost certainly that DOS can only use 1 (one) primary FAT partition with some reliability. When I tried this myself long time ago, I remember it took DOS (Win98) a lng time to come up with an error message while still booting. It just didn't like 2 readable primary partitions + an extended one. If you have one of those primary partitions non-readable for DOS (e.g., NTFS) you'll have no problems. It's just DOS's drivers which cannot emulate drive letters for more than one primary partition. Remember, the extended partition (where your logical partitions live) is really a primary partition. GR!!! Go back to the XP delete the Logical Partition Boot again in Win98 and then I can access the D: driver WHY DO I HAVE TO DELETE THE LOGICAL Partiton!? AFAICT, because of limitations of DOS. Why not make: - A 5 GB primary partition - An extended (in fact, also primary) partition for the rest of the disk - Inside the extended partition: - A logical 2.7 GB for your W2K stuff, extending almost til the start of the hibernation area - 100 MB hibernation partition - Other logical partitions as you see fit - Then just delete the 100 MB hibernation partition to get rid of the drive letter it uses. Lots of this type of misery stuff has been described in the archives of the Lib mailing list (use www.webarchive.org to get to e.g., the technoir archive). Philip
Re: [LIB] Asus reveals $190 mini notebook
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 15:40:07 -0800 (PST) From: David Chien [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Asus reveals $190 mini notebook Cute, but eeepc is the modern version of a Libretto with a flash drive. I'd pick one up if I only needed a basic Linux box, but w/o full Vista/XP support, it's hard to add things like printers, drivers, etc. for other devices. They're in the works for the Vista version I hear. That said, what do you do if you're just a beginner with Linux and trying to hook up one of those latest all-in-one printers from Canon or Epson?!? I'm sure this point will drive many early adopters nuts =P In any case, on the flip side, there's the main laptop competitor - the Nokia N95 and other PDA phones. These phones are getting so powerful, they can handle the basics of web surfing, office document editing, emailing through POP/IMAP, web browsing over cellular and WiFi, and taking TV quality movies and high-res photos ... along with the usual MP3/MP4 playback. At some point, these phone manufacturers will have to talk with the laptop makers and come up with something 1lbs and portable. eeePC is nice, but still 2lbs (you'd think after 10+ years after the Libretto, we'd be down to 1/2lbs mini-notebooks by now...). Something I'm saving up for right now N95 8GB =) Anyways, the Fujitsu mini-notebook with swivel screen and touch-screen input is my alternative vs. the eeePC. That one's going for $999 but it does run Vista, and the touch-screen does make for a nice tablet entry portable ebook reader. The eeePC in comparison is kinda of funny - with Black Friday 2006 Toshiba notebooks selling for $199 at Microcenter (and sure to be repeated this year), why would I want to spend $199 on a 2lbs mini that can't store much on the 4GB flash HD? (Yep, 4GB =[ Haven't seen one of those since the L50 days) I think Asus is on the right track with their first attempt...although they should have simply stuck in a 1.8 HD of at least 40GB right away instead of the flash drive. (downloads nowadays are simply far too big for 4gb, IMO especially all of those Nice 1080 HD Divx videos at http://stage6.divx.com/) adorable toshiba libretto The latest news and information for the Toshiba Libretto owner. http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: [LIB] Asus reveals $190 mini notebook
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 15:42:11 -0800 (PST) From: David Chien [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [LIB] Asus reveals $190 mini notebook $199. I have one ordered from Newegg. There's a user group already at http://www.eeeuser.com/ Hope you get one of Newegg's mistake shipments of 5-packs!! A few people have been getting 5 eeepc's by mistake because they're so small, the guys at Newegg's shipping dept. have been sending out the entire 5-pack w/o opening it up to pull out each of the single eeepc's. Be fun to stick a eeepc everywhere - in the bathroom, car, tv, etc. adorable toshiba libretto The latest news and information for the Toshiba Libretto owner. http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [LIB] Asus reveals $190 mini notebook
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 20:33:11 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Srebnik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Asus reveals $190 mini notebook Hi Matt, FWIW, I saw one at my local MicroCenter a week ago...very nice lil' lappyfor light usage/carryaround everywhere unit it's a good choice given the relatively low price. As they were sold out I picked one up from CentralComputer here in Silicone Valley as they got about 60 of them in yesterday... Selling like hotcakes...most places that got some sold out immediately...ASUS is trying replenish as best they can... The eeePC 701 that is on sale now has 4GB flash storage and 512MB RAM (but user upgradeable to 1 or 2 GB, but the Linux OS on it only recognizes 1GB, but if you put XP on it, it will see 2GB) ASUS is releasing soon a less expensive model with only 256MB RAM and 2GB Flash and no webcam to get price down around $200 +/-see: http://wiki.eeeuser.com/eee_pc_700 Also, here's some other links for you that I found useful http://www.eeeuser.com/ http://forum.eeeuser.com/ http://eeepc.asus.com/en/index.htm http://www.centralcomputers.com/corp/pages/ASUSeeePC.html http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=184313 http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=4055 Hacks are coming quicklyalready enabled 'Advanced Desktop Mode' very easily using this as a guide: http://www.downloadsquad.com/2007/11/06/eee-pc-tips-a-crash-course-in-linux/ Havin' lots of fun with this lil' puppy Mark Happy eee PC Camper on 11/5/07 5:28 PM, Matthew Hanson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 01:27:45 + From: Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Asus reveals $190 mini notebook http://www.windowsfordevices.com/news/NS7213592750.html Thoughts? Matt __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: [LIB] Asus reveals $190 mini notebook
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 19:25:03 -0700 From: Michael Luth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [LIB] Asus reveals $190 mini notebook Yes I saw that some people had this happen, receivng a full case of the machines. I ordered mine on Saturday and I think this happened earlier. As far as XP goes, you can install it. The eeePc comes with the XP drivers, you just have to supply your own disk and license. Many people are using the smaller distributions, like TinyXP and having successes. As far as the memory, there is an SDHC slot on the machine so you can upgrade to 16GB alhtough I've only heard of 8gb being used so far. Some people report being able to boot from the SDHC, although there are apparently a lot of tricks involved. I really like my libretto, but I don't use it much because it is just too difficult to type for long periods of time. I'm hoping that the eeepc will be an improvement in that respect. Michael -Original Message- From: David Chien [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 4:45 PM To: Libretto Subject: RE: [LIB] Asus reveals $190 mini notebook Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 15:42:11 -0800 (PST) From: David Chien [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [LIB] Asus reveals $190 mini notebook $199. I have one ordered from Newegg. There's a user group already at http://www.eeeuser.com/ Hope you get one of Newegg's mistake shipments of 5-packs!! A few people have been getting 5 eeepc's by mistake because they're so small, the guys at Newegg's shipping dept. have been sending out the entire 5-pack w/o opening it up to pull out each of the single eeepc's. Be fun to stick a eeepc everywhere - in the bathroom, car, tv, etc. adorable toshiba libretto The latest news and information for the Toshiba Libretto owner. http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
