Re: [LIB] BIOS problem- Thick drive in L50?
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 19:13:19 -0500 From: John Musielewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] BIOS problem- Thick drive in L50? On Mon, 12 Aug 2002 10:20:49 -0700, you wrote: Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 10:11:45 -0700 (PDT) From: David Chien [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] BIOS problem- Thick drive in L50? The spacers are in the drive bay for shock protection. Basically to help insulate the HD from additional shocks when you drop the Libretto by accident. All Librettos have them AFIK. What is the metal plate at the bottom of the drive bay in there for? With that removed the Magic Ram IDE to PC Card adapter would fit in perfectly. John ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] BIOS problem- Thick drive in L50?
Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 09:24:55 +0800 From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] BIOS problem- Thick drive in L50? At 05:08 PM 16/08/2002 -0700, you wrote: Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 19:13:19 -0500 From: John Musielewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] BIOS problem- Thick drive in L50? On Mon, 12 Aug 2002 10:20:49 -0700, you wrote: Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 10:11:45 -0700 (PDT) From: David Chien [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] BIOS problem- Thick drive in L50? The spacers are in the drive bay for shock protection. Basically to help insulate the HD from additional shocks when you drop the Libretto by accident. All Librettos have them AFIK. What is the metal plate at the bottom of the drive bay in there for? With that removed the Magic Ram IDE to PC Card adapter would fit in perfectly. AFAIK its just there for EM shielding purposes on the L100/110 and also for heat transfer to the magnesium case on the L50/70 ... as long as the drive itself was shielded properly I don't see why you'd need it there. I also don't see how it'd make a difference though given it's only a fraction of a millimeter thick ... - Raymond --- /~\ | | Does fuzzy logic tickle?| | ___ | My HDD has no reverse. How do I backup? | | /__/ +---| | / \ a y b o t | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | Need help? Visit #Windows98 on DALNet! | | ICQ: 31756092 | Libretto IRC channel #Libretto on DALNet! | \~/ ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] BIOS problem- Thick drive in L50?
Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 01:55:38 + From: Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] BIOS problem- Thick drive in L50? Me too... I found it very useful for skimming through new mail, and narrowing in and deleting SPAM that arrives without that [Lib] in the subject line of my Hotmailbox. Matt From: Christian Kuiphoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: List clean up I vote for putting it back. Regards, Chris http://pbase.com/c_kuiphoff The new version is not installed but it seems to be having a problem with the subject [LIB] insertion. Do people use this for their filters? I am sending an email to the developer to see what the problem is. _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] BIOS problem- Thick drive in L50?
Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 00:20:40 -0500 From: John Musielewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] BIOS problem- Thick drive in L50? On Fri, 16 Aug 2002 18:30:18 -0700, you wrote: Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 09:24:55 +0800 From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] BIOS problem- Thick drive in L50? At 05:08 PM 16/08/2002 -0700, you wrote: Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 19:13:19 -0500 From: John Musielewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] BIOS problem- Thick drive in L50? On Mon, 12 Aug 2002 10:20:49 -0700, you wrote: Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 10:11:45 -0700 (PDT) From: David Chien [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] BIOS problem- Thick drive in L50? The spacers are in the drive bay for shock protection. Basically to help insulate the HD from additional shocks when you drop the Libretto by accident. All Librettos have them AFIK. What is the metal plate at the bottom of the drive bay in there for? With that removed the Magic Ram IDE to PC Card adapter would fit in perfectly. AFAIK its just there for EM shielding purposes on the L100/110 and also for heat transfer to the magnesium case on the L50/70 ... as long as the drive itself was shielded properly I don't see why you'd need it there. I also don't see how it'd make a difference though given it's only a fraction of a millimeter thick ... - Raymond I took the metal plate into account an measured the opening and ended up wit a conversvative measurement of 10.3 mm. 100CT. ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] BIOS problem- Thick drive in L50?
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 07:28:52 + From: neil barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] BIOS problem- Thick drive in L50? Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 22:25:53 + From: Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] BIOS problem- Thick drive in L50? From: A. N. Bürümcekci [EMAIL PROTECTED] I plan on removing the plastic cover over the hard drive and the thin foams. Adorable Libretto states that there is not a problem in doing this. Why were they put in the first place? To reduce heat? Ya know, if there's been any discussion on this, I must have missed it, or it was a long, long time ago. I was wondering this myself, and was guessing that it may have something to do with providing a shock absorber for the drive as it's jostled about during use. I'd guess they're just there to stop the original thin drive rattling around. Neil _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] BIOS problem- Thick drive in L50?
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 10:11:45 -0700 (PDT) From: David Chien [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] BIOS problem- Thick drive in L50? The spacers are in the drive bay for shock protection. Basically to help insulate the HD from additional shocks when you drop the Libretto by accident. All Librettos have them AFIK. -- The L20-70 models shipped with 8.45mm HDs. The L100 models I recall (search Libertto Mailing List archives) came with an IBM HD initially that was 9.5mm tall, then later shipped with thinner 8.45 mm Toshiba HDs when they became available. Later models shipped with 9.5mm HDs, with the exception of the latest L1-L5 models, which I believe ship with smaller HDs. (L5 for sure, L1-L4 maybe.) = adorable toshiba libretto The latest news and information for the Toshiba Libretto owner. http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ __ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] BIOS problem- Thick drive in L50?
Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 10:50:18 -0700 (PDT) From: A. N. Bürümcekci [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] BIOS problem- Thick drive in L50? --- neil barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2002 20:28:58 + From: neil barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] BIOS problem- How to remove the memory? Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2002 05:38:09 -0700 (PDT) From: A. N. Bürümcekci [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [LIB] BIOS problem- How to remove the memory? breaking it. I then dismantled it (as if I knew where I was looking) to see the motherboard crack mentioned before. I put everthing back in place and turned it on before the screws. OK. After screws not OK. I This does not sound hopeful. Sounds like things are moving when the board flexes as the screws are tightened. Um. Does this machine have a larger (thicker) drive than the original, and if so, have the spacers been removed from the case back? The problem is definetly with the case. I removed the bottom case and started the computer 6 times without a single problem. Thank you for your help. I plan on removing the plastic cover over the hard drive and the thin foams. Adorable Libretto states that there is not a problem in doing this. Why were they put in the first place? To reduce heat? Thanks. __ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] BIOS problem- Thick drive in L50?
Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 22:25:53 + From: Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] BIOS problem- Thick drive in L50? From: A. N. Bürümcekci [EMAIL PROTECTED] I plan on removing the plastic cover over the hard drive and the thin foams. Adorable Libretto states that there is not a problem in doing this. Why were they put in the first place? To reduce heat? Ya know, if there's been any discussion on this, I must have missed it, or it was a long, long time ago. I was wondering this myself, and was guessing that it may have something to do with providing a shock absorber for the drive as it's jostled about during use. Matt _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] BIOS problem- Thick drive in L50?
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 06:49:06 +0800 From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] BIOS problem- Thick drive in L50? At 03:30 PM 11/08/2002 -0700, you wrote: Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 22:25:53 + From: Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] BIOS problem- Thick drive in L50? From: A. N. Bürümcekci [EMAIL PROTECTED] I plan on removing the plastic cover over the hard drive and the thin foams. Adorable Libretto states that there is not a problem in doing this. Why were they put in the first place? To reduce heat? Ya know, if there's been any discussion on this, I must have missed it, or it was a long, long time ago. I was wondering this myself, and was guessing that it may have something to do with providing a shock absorber for the drive as it's jostled about during use. I can understand why they'd put them in there on the L100/110 - the cavity is a good 1mm-1.5mm larger than the hard drive so it'd need to be packed in so that its the body of the hard drive that supports its weight and not the connector at the end. The L50/70 is more of a mystery to me in that they could have made the cavity a tight fit by either thickening the bottom of the case or by moving the motherboard down half a millimeter or so (to get better thermal contact between the hard drive and the magnesium alloy case). Perhaps it is for a bit of shock absorption ... alternatively maybe contrary to what has been said before, the L50/70's were designed for 9.45mm hard drives as they certainly seem to fit easily after the spacers are removed (despite the cavity being perhaps half a millimeter smaller than on the L100/110) ... - Raymond --- /~\ | | Does fuzzy logic tickle?| | ___ | My HDD has no reverse. How do I backup? | | /__/ +---| | / \ a y b o t | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | Need help? Visit #Windows98 on DALNet! | | ICQ: 31756092 | Libretto IRC channel #Libretto on DALNet! | \~/ ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
[LIB] BIOS problem- How to remove the memory?
Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2002 05:38:09 -0700 (PDT) From: A. N. Bürümcekci [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [LIB] BIOS problem- How to remove the memory? --- neil barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 20:35:28 + From: neil barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] BIOS problem Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 10:53:24 -0700 (PDT) From: A. N. Bürümcekci [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: BIOS problem I have a Libretto 50CT. I tried to boot it today but the BIOS messages did not come up. I turned it off, but it went to hibernation with a long series of beeps. I tried it turn it on several times but nothing came to screen. I tried it again after a break and it stated that there was no ROM in the system and that I needed to use Toshiba key. I have no idea what this is. *HOWEVER* it probably isn't the bios: symptoms sound more like dodgy memory. Try removing the expansion ram, and then reseating it. Maybe you can get into the bios by starting with the esc key pressed, then f1? Maybe the bios battery? Leave the machine plugged to the mains overnight and then try? The cause may be both. After an 10 hour drive, I turned it on at home. Windows loaded as if nothing had happened before. I played around for a while. I then restarted to make sure and everything went OK. I turned it on in the morning and the old problems came back again. I tried to remove the extra 16MB but did not push it hard in fear of breaking it. I then dismantled it (as if I knew where I was looking) to see the motherboard crack mentioned before. I put everthing back in place and turned it on before the screws. OK. After screws not OK. I will just leave it for a day or two for the bios battery. Is there a page that shows how to remove/add extra memory on the 50ct? I did not know where to apply the pressure to remove it. Thanks. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
[LIB] BIOS problem
Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 10:53:24 -0700 (PDT) From: A. N. Bürümcekci [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: BIOS problem I have a Libretto 50CT. I tried to boot it today but the BIOS messages did not come up. I turned it off, but it went to hibernation with a long series of beeps. I tried it turn it on several times but nothing came to screen. I tried it again after a break and it stated that there was no ROM in the system and that I needed to use Toshiba key. I have no idea what this is. I tried turning it on and off again several times and at one point it counted the memory. After several tries it passed that stage and asked the password. I typed it but it did not continue loading up the system. I do not know how I messed up the BIOS but is there a way to save this baby? Thanks. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] BIOS problem
Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 14:22:48 -0500 From: John Musielewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] BIOS problem On Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:00:09 -0700, you wrote: Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 10:53:24 -0700 (PDT) From: A. N. Bürümcekci [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: BIOS problem I have a Libretto 50CT. I tried to boot it today but the BIOS messages did not come up. I turned it off, but it went to hibernation with a long series of beeps. I tried it turn it on several times but nothing came to screen. I tried it again after a break and it stated that there was no ROM in the system and that I needed to use Toshiba key. I have no idea what this is. I tried turning it on and off again several times and at one point it counted the memory. After several tries it passed that stage and asked the password. I typed it but it did not continue loading up the system. I do not know how I messed up the BIOS but is there a way to save this baby? Thanks. I would try pulling the hard drive, and memory board then rebooting in case one of them is corrupting it. If it won't at least boot to a drive you are pretty much sol unless you have a rom programmer and a copy of the bios to put in. It can be flashed though so it can be recopied in case you don't have and can find someone with the tools. John ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] BIOS problem
Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 20:35:28 + From: neil barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] BIOS problem Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 10:53:24 -0700 (PDT) From: A. N. Bürümcekci [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: BIOS problem I have a Libretto 50CT. I tried to boot it today but the BIOS messages did not come up. I turned it off, but it went to hibernation with a long series of beeps. I tried it turn it on several times but nothing came to screen. I tried it again after a break and it stated that there was no ROM in the system and that I needed to use Toshiba key. I have no idea what this is. I tried turning it on and off again several times and at one point it counted the memory. After several tries it passed that stage and asked the password. I typed it but it did not continue loading up the system. I do not know how I messed up the BIOS but is there a way to save this baby? Thanks. The bios can be replaced if you have a *720kB* formatted floppy with a bios image on it - I have 6.50 available on my web site at www.nbarnes.easynet.co.uk/Binaries/1014v650.exe which is iirc an executable which will build the proper disc image (it's a long time since I did one!). Once you have the image, start the machine with the f12 key pressed. *HOWEVER* it probably isn't the bios: symptoms sound more like dodgy memory. Try removing the expansion ram, and then reseating it. Maybe you can get into the bios by starting with the esc key pressed, then f1? Other thoughts - if the machine's had a thicker disk fitted without the disk spacers removed, it could have cracked the main mobo memory :( :( :( Maybe the bios battery? Leave the machine plugged to the mains overnight and then try? Neil _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] BIOS problem
Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 17:46:39 -0500 From: John Musielewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] BIOS problem On Fri, 2 Aug 2002 13:40:09 -0700, you wrote: The bios can be replaced if you have a *720kB* formatted floppy with a bios image on it - I have 6.50 available on my web site at www.nbarnes.easynet.co.uk/Binaries/1014v650.exe which is iirc an executable which will build the proper disc image (it's a long time since I did one!). Once you have the image, start the machine with the f12 key pressed. Hmm..how does this work without the bios floppy calls? Is there a seperate floppy driver bios for recoveries? John ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] BIOS problem
Date: Sat, 03 Aug 2002 08:04:22 +0800 From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] BIOS problem At 03:45 PM 2/08/2002 -0700, you wrote: Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 17:46:39 -0500 From: John Musielewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] BIOS problem On Fri, 2 Aug 2002 13:40:09 -0700, you wrote: The bios can be replaced if you have a *720kB* formatted floppy with a bios image on it - I have 6.50 available on my web site at www.nbarnes.easynet.co.uk/Binaries/1014v650.exe which is iirc an executable which will build the proper disc image (it's a long time since I did one!). Once you have the image, start the machine with the f12 key pressed. Hmm..how does this work without the bios floppy calls? Is there a seperate floppy driver bios for recoveries? If what I understand is correct, Toshiba laptops have a routine stored in a permanent (mask ROM?) area of the BIOS chip that loads BEFORE the routines in the flash ROM (presumably the thing that actually LOADS the flash ROM). These routines check for the F12 key and have enough of the floppy driver stuff on it to load the 'Toshiba key disk'. Presumably that's why it must be a 720kB disk. I'd expect the only way you could damage THAT information is to surge the chip or get it caught in an electromagnetic pulse or something of that nature ... - Raymond --- /~\ | | Does fuzzy logic tickle?| | ___ | My HDD has no reverse. How do I backup? | | /__/ +---| | / \ a y b o t | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | Need help? Visit #Windows98 on DALNet! | | ICQ: 31756092 | Libretto IRC channel #Libretto on DALNet! | \~/ ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] BIOS problem
Date: Sat, 03 Aug 2002 05:34:48 + From: neil barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] BIOS problem Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 17:46:39 -0500 From: John Musielewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] BIOS problem On Fri, 2 Aug 2002 13:40:09 -0700, you wrote: The bios can be replaced if you have a *720kB* formatted floppy with a bios image on it - I have 6.50 available on my web site at www.nbarnes.easynet.co.uk/Binaries/1014v650.exe which is iirc an executable which will build the proper disc image (it's a long time since I did one!). Once you have the image, start the machine with the f12 key pressed. Hmm..how does this work without the bios floppy calls? Is there a seperate floppy driver bios for recoveries? Tell you the truth, I don't know. I have no evidence, but have postulated that there's a writable bit and a non-writable bit of the eeprom, or two eeproms - one of which holds the basic loader. Only needs to be probably 256 bytes to get the first sector, after all... I do know I've rebuilt non-starting and otherwise crashed bioses using it though, though I'd think one of the other causes I mentioned as being more likely. Neil _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
