Re: Libtool 1.4.3

2002-10-09 Thread Andreas Schwab
Thomas E. Dickey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | On Tue, 8 Oct 2002, Lars Hecking wrote: | | Bob Friesenhahn writes: | On 8 Oct 2002, Akim Demaille wrote: | |There is one big question which must be answered first: will it have |to be Autoconf 2.13 compatible? | |I *strongly*

Re: Libtool 1.4.3

2002-10-09 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 12:09:09PM +0200, Andreas Schwab wrote: In my experience almost all problems that occur while moving to autoconf 2.5x are outright bugs in the configure.in/aclocal.m4 scripts. We've already discussed this before, and I decided not to rely upon your opinion -- Thomas

Re: libtool 1.4.2 on Darwin

2002-10-09 Thread Benjamin Reed
On Wednesday, October 9, 2002, at 01:20 AM, Christoph Egger wrote: so diff would be just in the last part around `-install_name $parth/$soname` Good to know. Is there an anonymous CVS access? If yes, where and how? Then I could give you a diff against this branch, if merging makes you

Re: Libtool 1.4.3

2002-10-09 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 01:15:07PM +0200, Andreas Schwab wrote: Thomas Dickey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 12:09:09PM +0200, Andreas Schwab wrote: | In my experience almost all problems that occur while moving to autoconf | 2.5x are outright bugs in the

Re: Libtool 1.4.3

2002-10-09 Thread Andreas Schwab
Thomas Dickey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 12:09:09PM +0200, Andreas Schwab wrote: | In my experience almost all problems that occur while moving to autoconf | 2.5x are outright bugs in the configure.in/aclocal.m4 scripts. | | We've already discussed this before, and I

Re: Libtool 1.4.3

2002-10-09 Thread Akim Demaille
Sascha == Sascha Schumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sascha We use it for the PHP project (80k lines configure script), Sascha because 2.5x is 5 to 6 times slower That's because it does provide a better service too :( I have timed a lot of the code, and I can tell that we're hitting a M4

Re: Libtool 1.4.3

2002-10-09 Thread Akim Demaille
Russ == Russ Allbery [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Great thread people! I'm happy to see you're alive :) Russ There were a variety of reasons for breaking backward Russ compatibility, like choosing to clean up quoting, but that's a Russ justification for doing it, not an argument that it didn't

Re: Libtool 1.4.3

2002-10-09 Thread Akim Demaille
Robert == Robert Boehne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Robert Ok, So a 1.4.3 version is desired, that's established. The Robert million-dollar question is: Does current branch-1-4 Libtool do Robert the trick? Robert If so, then a roll out could be done within the week. I would like to find a

Re: Libtool 1.4.3

2002-10-09 Thread Earnie Boyd
Paolo Bonzini wrote: Wouldn't it be better to get libtool 1.5 out the door? The resources required to achieve a releasable product are similar and CVS libtool already contains most of the fixes that would go into a 1.4.3. But it also contains more features. Releasing 1.5 should be done

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Re: Libtool 1.4.3

2002-10-09 Thread Akim Demaille
| Sascha and contains a dependency-ignorant cache system. | | What do you mean? | | Each of PHP's bundled extensions has a config.m4 which can be | maintained separately. Autoconf 2.50 and later insert stale | code into configure, when such a config.m4 file changes. You want

Re: libtool 1.4.2 on Darwin

2002-10-09 Thread Christoph Egger
On Wednesday, October 9, 2002, at 01:20 AM, Christoph Egger wrote: so diff would be just in the last part around `-install_name $parth/$soname` Good to know. Is there an anonymous CVS access? If yes, where and how? Then I could give you a diff against this branch, if merging

Re: Libtool 1.4.3

2002-10-09 Thread Bonzini
The community are the maintainers, therefore a maintainer has spoken for a minor version increment, rather than a patch release increment. Do you mean a minor version increment starting from branch-1_4 or from HEAD? Paolo ___ Libtool mailing

Libtool 1.5

2002-10-09 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
After seeing what has happened with Autoconf, and given the current state of libtool, I recommend that the focus of libtool development be to produce a libtool 1.5 as soon as possible and not spend time producing a libtool 1.4.3. Time spent on libtool 1.4.3 is time spent doing work which must

Re: Libtool 1.5

2002-10-09 Thread Guido Draheim
Bob Friesenhahn wrote: Time spent on libtool 1.4.3 is time spent doing work which must either be done a second time, or has already been done, for libtool 1.5. Not true. There were some patches backported even before now, I was doing some of the work under the expectation that we can see a

Re: Libtool 1.4.3

2002-10-09 Thread Russ Allbery
Akim Demaille [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If people consider we deliberatedly broken bugward compatibility, then fine, you're free to be wrong. It's not what happened (and I can tell you that a lot of code would not have been written if that was our intention), but I don't care what people

Re: Libtool 1.5

2002-10-09 Thread Albert Chin
On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 12:29:44PM -0500, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: On Wed, 9 Oct 2002, Guido Draheim wrote: In my experience, the 1.5 code-base is a solid product on systems supported by 1.4.2, and provided that it is patched and proven to work under MinGW and Darwin then 1.5 should be

Re: libtool 1.4.2 on Darwin

2002-10-09 Thread Christoph Egger
Yes, you already said that. The stuff above is about the libtool 1.4 _branch_, while the libtool-darwin patch is in the mainstream development tree. Right, and I have not yet seen anything that said there will be a libtool 1.4.3 release, only that there will be a libtool release in

Re: Libtool 1.5 1.4.3

2002-10-09 Thread Robert Boehne
All, I intend to spin a release 1.4.3 this weekend from the branch-1-4 sources. Any properly formatted patches will be considered for inclusion before the release. I have seen a tendency to post patches on any list in any format, which makes it more work to get that particular patch installed

Re: Libtool 1.5 1.4.3

2002-10-09 Thread Ossama Othman
Hi Robert, On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 02:57:39PM -0500, Robert Boehne wrote: I intend to spin a release 1.4.3 this weekend from the branch-1-4 sources. Any properly formatted patches will be considered for inclusion before the release. I have seen a tendency to post patches on any list in any

Re: libtool 1.4.2 on Darwin

2002-10-09 Thread Benjamin Reed
On Wed, 2002-10-09 at 16:15, Robert Boehne wrote: Christoph, The patch against libtool.m4 is different from what is in CVS branch-1-4. Does today's branch-1-4 have the problem your patch intends to fix? It appears that this may be fixed in CVS. If you would, please get Libtool cvs

Re: Libtool 1.4.3

2002-10-09 Thread Paul Eggert
From: Sascha Schumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 19:49:57 +0200 (CEST) Did you send a bug report? Do you have a test case? I'm sorry, it was noticed by so many people, I supposed it would make its way to you. It's the first I've heard of it. Do you have a URL

Re: Libtool 1.5 1.4.3

2002-10-09 Thread Michel LESPINASSE
On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 02:57:39PM -0500, Robert Boehne wrote: I intend to spin a release 1.4.3 this weekend from the branch-1-4 sources. There is a bug in libtool 1.4.2 when using -prefer-non-pic on hppa: libtool does not pass the -fPIC flag, and then the linker complains about that.

Re: libtool 1.4.2 on Darwin

2002-10-09 Thread Robert Boehne
Benjamin, If we added support for library namespace, all of the Darwin developers would start developing software with Libtool that used it, and therefore wouldn't link on other systems, correct? I'm not claiming I have ever seen a Mac running X+ so you'll have to correct me if I'm wrong.

Re: Libtool 1.5 1.4.3

2002-10-09 Thread Robert Boehne
Ok, let me see if I understand this one, under Linux hppa, (presumably with gcc) user has added -prefer-non-pic to the CFLAGS explicitly, and configured with --enable-shared ?? What platforms (aside from Alpha RS/6000) does this work on? -- Robert Boehne Software Engineer Ricardo

Re: Libtool 1.5 1.4.3

2002-10-09 Thread Michel LESPINASSE
On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 06:27:18PM -0500, Robert Boehne wrote: Ok, let me see if I understand this one, under Linux hppa, (presumably with gcc) user has added -prefer-non-pic to the CFLAGS explicitly, and configured with --enable-shared ?? The package adds -prefer-non-pic to the CFLAGS

Re: Libtool 1.5 1.4.3

2002-10-09 Thread David I. Lehn
* Michel LESPINASSE [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20021009 19:57]: On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 06:27:18PM -0500, Robert Boehne wrote: Ok, let me see if I understand this one, under Linux hppa, (presumably with gcc) user has added -prefer-non-pic to the CFLAGS explicitly, and configured with --enable

Re: MinGW libtool DLL failure

2002-10-09 Thread Elizabeth Barham
Bob Friesenhahn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ideas? g++ -shared c:/mingw/bin/../lib/gcc-lib/mingw32/2.95.3-6/../../../dllcrt2.o .libs/Blob.o .libs/BlobRef.o .libs/CoderInfo.o .libs/Color.o .libs/Drawable.o .libs/Exception.o .libs/Functions.o .libs/Geometry.o .libs/Image.o .libs/ImageRef.o

Re: MinGW libtool DLL failure

2002-10-09 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
By the way, notice that this is a C++ DLL which is being linked against a C DLL also built by libtool. The C DLL did successfully link using libtool. The C DLL is based in part on a libtool convenience library. To be honest, I believe that there are still some run-time issues with C++ DLLs

Re: MinGW libtool DLL failure

2002-10-09 Thread Elizabeth Barham
Bob Friesenhahn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: g++ -shared c:/mingw/bin/../lib/gcc-lib/mingw32/2.95.3-6/../../../dllcrt2.o .libs/Blob.o .libs/BlobRef.o .libs/CoderInfo.o .libs/Color.o .libs/Drawable.o .libs/Exception.o .libs/Functions.o .libs/Geometry.o .libs/Image.o .libs/ImageRef.o

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