Re: OpenDivX license

2001-01-22 Thread Brian Behlendorf
On Sun, 21 Jan 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A philosophical point first: I believe that attempting standards enforcement through copyright licensing is fundamentally broken. We've seen this tried several times, with the Artistic (control over "Perl" name), and SCSL licenses, the results

Re: Cherry-picking license proposals

2001-01-22 Thread Brian Behlendorf
Sorry if this seems pedantic... On Sun, 21 Jan 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Convergence. Despite some degree of internal conflict, the final nail was really the result of independent external resolution of many of the issues we had sought to address. As of the last meeting

Re: To the keepers of the holy grail of Open Source

2001-01-22 Thread Bryan George
News flash: A _lot_ of technical people are using Word docs and PowerPoint presentations these days - Linux/VMWare is my weapon of choice, but there are others. Bryan Ben Tilly wrote: Jorg Janke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to raise three issues: a) License issues b) Compiere

Re: IPL as a burden

2001-01-22 Thread SamBC
The comment was ironic, to make that self-same point. We can't look at the letter of it, but at the feelings of the community which supports the concept... and the irony is directed at IntraDAT... SamBC - Original Message - From: "Andrew J Bromage" [EMAIL PROTECTED] G'day all. On

RE: Cherry-picking license proposals

2001-01-22 Thread Dave J Woolley
From: Carter Bullard [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Is the OSI trying to make a determination that two different legal documents are functionally equivalent? [DJW:] As I understand it, they are determining whether the licence is a member of the set of possible "open

Re: Cherry-picking license proposals

2001-01-22 Thread Rod Dixon, J.D., LL.M.
Dave, A note of clarification. Although I need not speak for OSI, I am confident that they would say that they are NOT acting as legal counsel for the drafters of the submitted licenses. Instead, the idea of getting a license approved or of discussing the licenses on this list is more about

Re: To the keepers of the holy grail of Open Source

2001-01-22 Thread Ben Tilly
Bryan George [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: News flash: A _lot_ of technical people are using Word docs and PowerPoint presentations these days - Linux/VMWare is my weapon of choice, but there are others. News flash: Doing so is still a good way to guarantee that a lot of other technical people will

Re: Cherry-picking license proposals

2001-01-22 Thread kmself
on Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 12:30:15AM -0800, Brian Behlendorf ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Sorry if this seems pedantic... Not at all, quite appreciated. I have trouble keeping up with everything and appreciate the watchful eye. Thanks. On Sun, 21 Jan 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -

Re: trademarked logos and GPL

2001-01-22 Thread Bart Decrem
Hi Larry, Of course we're going to run this by our attorneys but I was trying to see if there's a 'standard' practice for this that the open source community follows (btw, I too have a law degree). Bart "Lawrence E. Rosen" wrote: I want to discourage license-discuss participants from

Advice on advice (was Re: trademarked logos and GPL)

2001-01-22 Thread kmself
on Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 05:23:00PM -0800, Lawrence E. Rosen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: -Original Message- From: Bart Decrem [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 5:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: trademarked logos and GPL

RE: To the keepers of the holy grail of Open Source

2001-01-22 Thread Jorg Janke
Title: RE: To the keepers of the holy grail of Open Source Hi Larry, Here some ideas and suggestions: - If someone send s mail to license-approval, just acknowledge the mail, say it might take 6 months and that they should evaluate using the license in the meantime. This sets

Re: To the keepers of the holy grail of Open Source

2001-01-22 Thread David Johnson
On Monday 22 January 2001 09:35 am, Bryan George wrote: Okay, I'm writing it down: "Audience = inflexible Unix bigots = document = brain dead ASCII text". Got it, thanks! Sigh... I don't have MS Office, and I am not about to pay for it. This has nothing to do with bigotry, but everything

Re: The Toll Roads of Open Source

2001-01-22 Thread Rick Moen
begin Manfred Schmid quotation: We see that emotions have gone high. I see that you _continue_ declining to address the subject at hand. Which is evaluating whether specific licences are OSD-compliant or not. Instead, you digress onto business models, alleged deficiencies in the OSD, and a