Re: [License-discuss] GPL and proprietary WebAPIs

2011-12-21 Thread Chris Travers
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 6:35 PM, Clark C. Evans c...@clarkevans.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 20, 2011, at 03:30 PM, Chris Travers wrote: In general, good will from the projects at issue is a factor that should not be underestimated and being a good citizen means ideally making sure they are ok with

Re: [License-discuss] GPL and proprietary WebAPIs

2011-12-21 Thread John Cowan
Chris Travers scripsit: Now, if linking implies derivation, then isn't the software (and by extension *all* Windows software) derivative of Windows? If that's the case then doesn't every developer of Windows software need Microsoft's permission to distribute such software? I don't think so.

Re: [License-discuss] Greetings, Earthlings! Need quotes for article

2011-12-21 Thread Karl Fogel
Richard Fontana rfont...@redhat.com writes: Well, here's a list of OSI-approved licenses that Tom Callaway and I judged non-FOSS when we examined them (though I haven't looked at these in a few years). (This does not include the Artistic License 1.0 and certain of its OSI-approved derivatives,

[License-discuss] SPDX abbreviations

2011-12-21 Thread Luis Villa
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Karl Fogel kfo...@red-bean.com wrote: By the way, note that the OSI is using the SPDX license abbreviations for URLs now (though with compatibility redirects of course).  So the the above list would now be:  Adaptive Public License    

Re: [License-discuss] SPDX abbreviations

2011-12-21 Thread John Cowan
Luis Villa scripsit: Is there a full/formal list of those abbreviations somewhere? Would be useful to be able to point at. Thanks! http://www.spdx.org/licenses/ -- Some people open all the Windows; John Cowan wise wives welcome the spring co...@ccil.org by moving the Unix.

Re: [License-discuss] Greetings, Earthlings! Need quotes for article

2011-12-21 Thread John Cowan
Karl Fogel scripsit: Adaptive Public License http://www.opensource.org/licenses/APL-1.0 This license was pretty much beyond my comprehension when it was first brought up, and it still is. Frameworx License http://www.opensource.org/licenses/Frameworx-1.0 The issue here seems to be

Re: [License-discuss] Greetings, Earthlings! Need quotes for article

2011-12-21 Thread Karl Fogel
John, thanks -- having this analysis helps a lot. That language in the Frameworx license is very odd; I wonder what the backstory is. I can't see now what the motivation might have been. -K John Cowan co...@mercury.ccil.org writes: Karl Fogel scripsit: Adaptive Public License

Re: [License-discuss] Greetings, Earthlings! Need quotes for article

2011-12-21 Thread Richard Fontana
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 03:50:51PM -0500, Karl Fogel wrote: Without making any assertions as to the open-sourceness or lack thereof of CPAL-1.0, I'm surprised to see it absent from this list -- whenever the subject of mis-approval comes up, that one's usually mentioned, for reasons discussed

Re: [License-discuss] Greetings, Earthlings! Need quotes for article

2011-12-21 Thread Karl Fogel
Richard Fontana rfont...@redhat.com writes: Yes, but I'd have to dig the details up since the review of these licenses took place in (I believe) 2008. I've been meaning to do that anyway, and to publish the rationale. In at least one case (OCLC-2.0) at least one issue involved restrictions on

Re: [License-discuss] Greetings, Earthlings! Need quotes for article

2011-12-21 Thread Richard Fontana
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 04:28:51PM -0500, John Cowan wrote: Ricoh Source Code Public License http://www.opensource.org/licenses/RSCPL This is a mildly edited version of MPL-1.0, plus a variant of the obnoxious BSD advertising clause: 5.1. Advertising Materials. All

Re: [License-discuss] Greetings, Earthlings! Need quotes for article

2011-12-21 Thread Richard Fontana
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 04:50:53PM -0500, Karl Fogel wrote: Richard Fontana rfont...@redhat.com writes: Yes, but I'd have to dig the details up since the review of these licenses took place in (I believe) 2008. I've been meaning to do that anyway, and to publish the rationale. In at least

Re: [License-discuss] Greetings, Earthlings! Need quotes for article

2011-12-21 Thread Karl Fogel
Richard Fontana rfont...@redhat.com writes: On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 04:50:53PM -0500, Karl Fogel wrote: Richard Fontana rfont...@redhat.com writes: Yes, but I'd have to dig the details up since the review of these licenses took place in (I believe) 2008. I've been meaning to do that anyway,

Re: [License-discuss] Greetings, Earthlings! Need quotes for article

2011-12-21 Thread John Cowan
Richard Fontana scripsit: The OSD may not be fully clear on this, but I take it as fundamental that FOSS licenses should not place any restriction on prices charged for distribution, other than with respect to source code that is required to be provided when distributing binaries. That seems