Bruce Perens wrote:
Despite the fact that Larry and those law review folks are sure about
the linking question, every party who would benefit from a case going
according to Larry's interpretation has settled their case with the GPL
licensor rather than invest what is necessary for a court to
On 03/01/2012 11:57 PM, Chris Travers wrote:
Ok, so part of avoiding lawsuits is to avoid areas where folks think
they can sue about.
Not quite, because neophytes think they can sue about anything.
Sometimes lawyers cooperate in this, because they think the victim will
settle or otherwise
It is indeed the case that the failures I see are in companies rather
than among charity developers. However, it's a stretch to state that
they already pay for lawyers! I sometimes get paid to read their
depositions and explain them to the judge. Invariably, the failure is by
an engineer or
On 03/02/2012 10:38 AM, Chad Perrin wrote:
On the other hand, a fully-written pleading for a Rule 11 sanction
is beyond the means of someone who cannot afford a competent attorney.
Since Olson was a Free Software developer, EFF provided his attorney
pro-bono.
Thanks
Bruce
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Quoting Chad Perrin (per...@apotheon.com):
You seem here to be saying Let's not worry about it. You'll get sued,
or you won't. There's no perfect answer, so don't bother trying to come
up with somewhat better answers.
That is not what I said, and very far from what I meant. And you
Quoting Chad Perrin (per...@apotheon.com):
I think the point was [...]
I believe I was having a discussion with Chris Travers. Didn't I ask
you to kindly go away and chew up someone else's time?
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-Original Message-
A truly independent open source software developer probably has nothing
to fear other than personal embarrassment. It is the larger companies,
including acquirers or consolidators of open source software and the
corporate users of that software, who need to
On 3/2/12 1:38 PM, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote:
There seem to be three general approaches to failing to address the
important matter of how to deal with the needs of independent open source
software developers:
1. It's easy! All you need is the ability to fall back on a lawyer's
help.
On Fri, Mar 02, 2012 at 11:17:49AM -0800, Bruce Perens wrote:
On 03/02/2012 10:38 AM, Chad Perrin wrote:
On the other hand, a fully-written pleading for a Rule 11
sanction is beyond the means of someone who cannot afford a
competent attorney.
Since Olson was a Free Software developer, EFF
Larry Rosen wrote:
Is anything else required under the GPL or by the Busybox copyright owners?
Specifically, is any of my client's proprietary software subject to disclosure?
Must my client help anyone -- through product documentation or the disclosure
of his proprietary code that he has
On 03/02/2012 11:34 AM, Chad Perrin wrote:
Something tells me it is not reasonable to just always expect that
writing open source code guarantees the EFF's help.
Sure. But folks who have asked me for help got me free, and I've
sometimes found them an attorney too. This is something I would
Mike Milinkovich wrote:
I don't disagree with this, but I feel obliged to point out that
truly independent open source softare developers sometimes make available
combinations of code which violate license terms. And their work is
then included in the work of others. Given the ease with which
On Fri, Mar 02, 2012 at 11:18:12AM -0800, Rick Moen wrote:
Quoting Chad Perrin (per...@apotheon.com):
You seem here to be saying Let's not worry about it. You'll get sued,
or you won't. There's no perfect answer, so don't bother trying to come
up with somewhat better answers.
That is
On Fri, Mar 02, 2012 at 11:20:58AM -0800, Rick Moen wrote:
Quoting Chad Perrin (per...@apotheon.com):
I think the point was [...]
I believe I was having a discussion with Chris Travers. Didn't I ask
you to kindly go away and chew up someone else's time?
Yes, you *are* the sort of person
On Fri, Mar 02, 2012 at 11:43:41AM -0800, Bruce Perens wrote:
On 03/02/2012 11:34 AM, Chad Perrin wrote:
Something tells me it is not reasonable to just always expect that
writing open source code guarantees the EFF's help.
Sure. But folks who have asked me for help got me free, and I've
On Fri, Mar 02, 2012 at 02:29:28PM -0500, Tzeng, Nigel H. wrote:
On 3/2/12 1:38 PM, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote:
There seem to be three general approaches to failing to address the
important matter of how to deal with the needs of independent open source
software developers:
1.
-Original Message-
I agree with you about the problem. I have repeatedly suggested that
Apache do code scans on its distributed software so that every downstream
customer doesn't have to do it. But we have neither the interest nor the
money to deal with hypothetical problems in a
On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 12:35 PM, Lawrence Rosen lro...@rosenlaw.com wrote:
Bruce Perens wrote:
The parties didn't wish to contest whether they were in compliance or not.
They instead took the route of requesting forgiveness for infringement as a
settlement or before a suit was filed, since
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