[License-discuss] OSCAd - a tool for simplifying to use open source software compliantly

2013-08-14 Thread Reincke, Karsten
Dear colleagues; Recently, github has offered an open source license chooser for the project owners. It aims of simplifying the selection of an appropriate license. This tool was well appreciated -- not only by this OSI mailing list. As a large company in Germany, we also acclaim the existence

[License-discuss] Open Source Eventually License Development

2013-08-14 Thread fred trotter
Hi, I am sending this to both FSF and OSI people. Please tolerate my use of the various terms interchangeably, I know the various rules but I am talking to two different communities, if at all possible please permit me to skip the I don't like your choice of terms lecture. I have

Re: [License-discuss] Open Source Eventually License Development

2013-08-14 Thread Richard Stallman
[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider [ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, [ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. All the FSF will say about it is that if and when the program becomes free software,

Re: [License-discuss] Open Source Eventually License Development

2013-08-14 Thread Henrik Ingo
Hi fred I think what you are asking for guidance on, is outside the mandate of osi, and fsf too. The time delayed license should of On 14 Aug 2013 19:24, fred trotter fred.trot...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am sending this to both FSF and OSI people. Please tolerate my use of the various

Re: [License-discuss] Open Source Eventually License Development

2013-08-14 Thread Henrik Ingo
Sorry for accidental sending... The time delayed license should of course be an osi approved one, and preferably one of the commonly used ones: gpl, bsd, and so on... The licenses are what they are and there isn't much to discuss there, you just pick one. How you intend to write your proprietary

Re: [License-discuss] Open Source Eventually License Development

2013-08-14 Thread Lawrence Rosen
Fred Trotter wrote: First, I would like for the OSI and FSF people on this list to consider some kind of new status for a license, like OSI tolerated or OSI Not Open Source But It Doesn't Suck , or Not Free Software but tolerated for this purpose or something like. Hi Fred, I actually like

Re: [License-discuss] Open Source Eventually License Development

2013-08-14 Thread Tzeng, Nigel H.
FT, Unfortunately the open source world has not been very amenable to things that stray beyond the scope of fairly narrow definitions of open source. Thus we have nothing equivalent to Creative Commons for software that would cover not just CC-BY and CC-BY-SA but also NC, ND and in your case some

Re: [License-discuss] Open Source Eventually License Development

2013-08-14 Thread fred trotter
The mandate for this list is facilitate constructive discussion of open source licensing and further the goals of the OSI. Your argument is that this list only exists to determine whether a given license meets the definition of Open Source, and then only discuss it if it meets that definition. You

Re: [License-discuss] Open Source Eventually License Development

2013-08-14 Thread Richard Stallman
[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider [ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, [ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. I actually like the Ghostscript/Aladdin license, which was essentially

Re: [License-discuss] Open Source Eventually License Development

2013-08-14 Thread Lawrence Rosen
Richard Stallman wrote: I considered it a problematical compromise. At least it gave us free software after a year. Precisely my point: FOSS is better late than never. /Larry -Original Message- From: Richard Stallman [mailto:r...@gnu.org] Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 2:24 PM

Re: [License-discuss] Open Source Eventually License Development

2013-08-14 Thread Eben Moglen
Whatever the truth of the adage may be, the point for us is that none of this has anything to do with licensing. Fred Trotter was actually asking a question, to which the correct answer is: You don't need a license to make something free software at a certain date in the future. Giving a copy to

[License-discuss] Endorsement clause?

2013-08-14 Thread ldr ldr
I am deciding between an amended MIT, amended BSD and SQLite with exception licenses for my web application and its associated backend platform. What are your thoughts on the existence and wording of an endorsement clause? Here is what I am thinking, if I choose to amend the BSD license: