open source licenses and algorithms

2002-01-21 Thread Patrik Wallstrom
I know this has been up for discussion before, but I didn't really follow the thread, and I want to know some extra things. Is there any current open source licenses that can enforce the software to follow an exact algorithm (as provided by the copyright owner) and protocol? Does any of the

Re: open source licenses and algorithms

2002-01-21 Thread John Cowan
Patrik Wallstrom scripsit: Is there any current open source licenses that can enforce the software to follow an exact algorithm (as provided by the copyright owner) and protocol? No. That would limit the freedom to create derivative works. Does any of the licenses also prohibit a name

Re: open source licenses and algorithms

2002-01-21 Thread phil hunt
On Monday 21 January 2002 12:07 pm, Patrik Wallstrom wrote: I know this has been up for discussion before, but I didn't really follow the thread, and I want to know some extra things. Is there any current open source licenses that can enforce the software to follow an exact algorithm (as

Re: open source licenses and algorithms

2002-01-21 Thread Michael Bauer
I don't think copyright protects an algorithm. I think you'd need a patent for that. So, I don't think you can license an algorithm. Of course, IANAL (just anal). On the other hand, I always thought forking code was a bad thing. Unless you wanted to develop a nice commercial alternative

Re: open source licenses and algorithms

2002-01-21 Thread Michael Bauer
So, is the algorithm patented as well as copyrighted? If so, I think another can of worms is about to have the top popped off. On Mon, 21 Jan 2002, Randy Kramer wrote: Michael Bauer wrote: I don't think copyright protects an algorithm. I think you'd need a patent for that. So, I don't

Re: open source licenses and algorithms

2002-01-21 Thread Michael Bauer
Ah, a most excellent and enlightening article, Rick. Thank you. On Mon, 21 Jan 2002, Rick Moen wrote: Quoting Michael Bauer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): On the other hand, I always thought forking code was a bad thing. Not really. http://linuxmafia.com/~rick/essays/forking.html --

Re: open source licenses and algorithms

2002-01-21 Thread John Cowan
Rick Moen scripsit: Quoting Michael Bauer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): On the other hand, I always thought forking code was a bad thing. Not really. http://linuxmafia.com/~rick/essays/forking.html [T]he right to fork is like the right to strike, the right to sue, or the right

Re: open source licenses and algorithms

2002-01-21 Thread Randy Kramer
Michael Bauer wrote: Randy Kramer wrote: So, is the algorithm patented as well as copyrighted? If so, I think another can of worms is about to have the top popped off. You can license something that is patented, thus, if an algorithm is patented, it could be licensed. What algorithm

Re: open source licenses and algorithms

2002-01-21 Thread Thorsten Glaser
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Re: open source licenses and algorithms

2002-01-21 Thread Rick Moen
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Re: open source licenses and algorithms

2002-01-21 Thread Patrik Wallstrom
On Mon, 21 Jan 2002, Randy Kramer wrote: So, is the algorithm patented as well as copyrighted? If so, I think another can of worms is about to have the top popped off. You can license something that is patented, thus, if an algorithm is patented, it could be licensed. What

Re: open source licenses and algorithms

2002-01-21 Thread Randy Kramer
Patrik Wallstrom wrote: On Mon, 21 Jan 2002, Randy Kramer wrote: So, is the algorithm patented as well as copyrighted? If so, I think another can of worms is about to have the top popped off. You can license something that is patented, thus, if an algorithm is patented, it

Re: open source licenses and algorithms

2002-01-21 Thread David Johnson
On Monday 21 January 2002 08:03 am, Michael Bauer wrote: On the other hand, I always thought forking code was a bad thing. Unless you wanted to develop a nice commercial alternative to open source. A quick list of Good Forks(tm): Gnu Emacs / XEmacs Some bad blood still exists

RE: open source licenses and algorithms

2002-01-21 Thread RD
You might say this question was once simple, but is no longer. A one word answer will not do...this is particularly so with regard to software (software, by definition, involves the practical application of algorithms). I suspect the person who posed the question may not have posed it as