Re: Clarification of GPL

2003-12-15 Thread Abe Kornelis
treatment of the exercises presented in X ?? Y could not exist without X - the prior publication. Yet copyright AFAIK treats it as an independent work. Certainly as long is it is being distributed as a separate volume. Abe Kornelis. -- license-discuss archive is at http://crynwr.com/cgi-bin/ezmlm

Re: Must publish vs. must supply

2003-03-17 Thread Abe Kornelis
- Original Message - From: Chris F Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Me: Obviously, item 2 must be under some restrictions, or there isn't any must in your 3. Abe: -- I do not agree. The main restriction is that you keep your modifications private. The base line is: either keep

Re: Must publish vs. must supply

2003-03-13 Thread Abe Kornelis
- Original Message - From: Mark Rafn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Any group should be able to share modifications among themselves without the outside world (including the original author) being aware of it. -- I do not regard open-source as a one-sided mirror - if it is to work at all,

Re: Must publish vs. must supply

2003-03-13 Thread Abe Kornelis
- Original Message - From: David Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] I would offer the recipients of my software three choices: 1) make no modifications. 2) make mods and keep them private 3) make mods and publish to the public, either by publishing

Re: Must publish vs. must supply

2003-03-12 Thread Abe Kornelis
- Original Message - From: Mark Rafn [EMAIL PROTECTED] The biggest point in this whole discussion is this simple fact: if I do not insert either a must-publish or a must-supply clause in my license they can (and probably will) claim that their source is

Re: Must publish vs. must supply

2003-03-12 Thread Abe Kornelis
regards, Abe Kornelis. -- license-discuss archive is at http://crynwr.com/cgi-bin/ezmlm-cgi?3

Re: Must publish vs. must supply

2003-03-12 Thread Abe Kornelis
are deemed to violate the OSD, then it must be a matter of wording, not of principles. -Chris Clark Again, a personal request: Please do not send me personal copies -- Check Kind regards, Abe Kornelis -- license-discuss archive is at http://crynwr.com/cgi-bin/ezmlm-cgi?3

Re: Must publish vs. must supply

2003-03-12 Thread Abe Kornelis
- Original Message - From: John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chris F Clark scripsit: Clearly the FSF has decided that hording of software by corporations (as long as they don't distribute it) should be one of their freedoms. The same applies to individuals. Do you want to be

Re: Must publish vs. must supply

2003-03-10 Thread Abe Kornelis
*think* the latter option is looked upon relatively favorably - assuming the silent majority agrees with the discussion so far. Please feel invited to share your comments. Kind regards, Abe Kornelis. -- license-discuss archive is at http://crynwr.com/cgi-bin/ezmlm-cgi?3

Re: Must publish vs. must supply

2003-03-09 Thread Abe Kornelis
Abe Kornelis scripsit: Not wanting to compromise the relation with their software supplier being one fairly good reason, habitual secretiveness another one, and avoiding to be seen as untrustworthy or undependable by their own customers as yet another

Re: Must publish vs. must supply

2003-03-07 Thread Abe Kornelis
John, thanks again, and once more please find my comments inserted below. - Original Message - From: John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Abe Kornelis scripsit: The GPL and the OSL take what I consider to be a reasonable attitude: you must supply changes in source form to people who

Re: Must publish vs. must supply

2003-03-06 Thread Abe Kornelis
John, thanks for your reply. Please find my comments inserted in between your text. - Original Message - From: John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] The BXAPL (see http://www.bixoft.nl/english/license.htm) currently has both - which is definitely an overkill, even though it grants users

Re: Must publish vs. must supply

2003-03-06 Thread Abe Kornelis
Bennett, thanks for your reply. Please find my comments inserted in between your tecxt. - Original Message - From: Bennett Todd [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-03-05T14:34:23 John Cowan: The GPL and the OSL take what I consider to be a reasonable attitude: you must supply changes in source

BXAPL - proposed license

2003-01-07 Thread Abe Kornelis
of the license proposal on our site: http://www.bixoft.nl/english/license.htm Thanks for your attention, Abe Kornelis. -- license-discuss archive is at http://crynwr.com/cgi-bin/ezmlm-cgi?3

Re: BXAPL - request for comments

2002-10-31 Thread Abe Kornelis
and the U.S. -- Does 'practicing' imply that you are still in your apprenticeship ;-) (Sorry, couln't resist the bait) Kind Regards, Abe Kornelis. -- license-discuss archive is at http://crynwr.com/cgi-bin/ezmlm-cgi?3

Re: BXAPL - request for comments

2002-10-30 Thread Abe Kornelis
on the subject. Kind regards, Abe Kornelis. -- license-discuss archive is at http://crynwr.com/cgi-bin/ezmlm-cgi?3

Re: BXAPL - request for comments

2002-10-27 Thread Abe Kornelis
. So, thanks again, but I will stick with my own license. Kind Regards, Abe. == - Original Message - From: Lawrence E. Rosen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Abe Kornelis' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 8:48 PM Subject: RE: BXAPL - request for comments Did you

BXAPL - request for comments

2002-10-24 Thread Abe Kornelis
done our best to make the license text understandable by supplying an explanation and an abridged version by way of quick reference. Thank you all in advance for your time and effort. Kind Regards, Abe Kornelis. == Differences between versions 0.H and 0.J

Re: Approval request for BXAPL

2002-07-09 Thread Abe Kornelis
Dear all, With Nathan Kelley I have had a discussion, that has halfway turned private, i.e. we both forgot to cc the list. Since Nathan agreed with me that it would be a good idea to let you all in on the discussion, I have made a surmise of the various mails that have not yet been on this list,

Re: Approval request for BXAPL

2002-07-09 Thread Abe Kornelis
From: Steve Lhomme [EMAIL PROTECTED] Forrest J. Cavalier III wrote: Abe Kornelius wrote, in part: It was intended that Distributor designate anyone who redistributes the Software, with or without stuff of his/her own. This would include the Copyright Holder. A Contributor was intended

Re: Approval request for BXAPL

2002-07-07 Thread Abe Kornelis
I just noticed I sent this reply without cc-ing the mailing list :-( Therefore now resending with apologies. Abe F. Kornelis. From: Forrest J. Cavalier III [EMAIL PROTECTED] The definition (at General #2) is as follows, and is formatted thusly: Contributor: Any Distributor

Re: Approval request for BXAPL

2002-07-07 Thread Abe Kornelis
And yet another that should have been cc-ed to the list. Shame on me, isn't it? Once again I apologize. Abe F. Kornelis. From: Forrest J. Cavalier III [EMAIL PROTECTED] The definition of User is too broad. It allows any Distributor to force someone to be a User simply by sending them

Re: Approval request for BXAPL

2002-07-03 Thread Abe Kornelis
- Original Message - From: Nathan Kelley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: OSI License Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Abe Kornelis [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Steve Lhomme [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 1:40 PM Subject: Re: Approval request for BXAPL Approval request snipped I have

Re: Approval request for BXAPL

2002-07-03 Thread Abe Kornelis
- Original Message - From: Forrest J. Cavalier III [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 4:45 PM Subject: Re: Approval request for BXAPL This is a very complicated license. Thanks for providing the remarks and annotations. Very

Re: QuantLib License 1.0 submitted for OSD branding

2002-01-10 Thread Abe Kornelis
Ferdinando Ametrano wrote: finally I'm settling for BSD and I will have to get back to FSF for GPL compatibility certification. -- BSD allows redistribution of binaries without making the source(s) available. Is that what you want? Regards, Abe. -- Abe F. Kornelis, B.V. Bixoft Het

Exclusion of international laws

2002-01-07 Thread Abe Kornelis
Hello all, Best wishes for the new year to all of you. I have noticed that various OSI-approved licenses exclude the United Nations Convention on Contracts for the International Sale of Goods. First question: why would anyone want to exclude a supranational regulation. I'd suppose such

Re: [Approval Request] Kallisys Reflexive License

2001-11-11 Thread Abe Kornelis
Paul Guyot wrote: - The text contains a large number of diacriticals (in the french sections). Though I liked the bilingual version, my browser died while trying to print it. Please consider using egrave; eacute; etc. for the characters with diacritics. Both versions are

Re: [Approval Request] Kallisys Reflexive License

2001-11-11 Thread Abe Kornelis
Paul Guyot wrote: The idea of applying the license to itself seems a clever one, but is incompatible with allowing modifications to the licensed work. I wonder why. Could you please develop, either regarding Draft 1 (always interesting) or the newer Draft 2? -- Paul, If modifications

Re: [Approval Request] Kallisys Reflexive License

2001-11-01 Thread Abe Kornelis
Paul Guyot wrote: Hi all, I would like to get the Kallisys Reflexive License (KRL) approved by the Open Source Initiative. -- Paul, I did a quick read of your license and found nothing that will let me modify the licensed code. I don't know if modifiability is required by the OSD, but it

Re: Intel's proposed BSD + Patent License

2001-10-31 Thread Abe Kornelis
Russell Nelson wrote: Abe Kornelis writes: Russell Nelson wrote: [ Please review this license. If you do so promptly enough, we may be able to include it in tomorrow's board meeting. -russ ] -- This raises some questions. We recently had a lengthy discussion

Re: Approval request, DSPL v1.1

2001-10-15 Thread Abe Kornelis
Julian Hall wrote: Following comments I received on version 1.0 of the DSPL, I have prepared a revision for submission for approval. I look forward to receiving your comments! -- Julian, Just a personal remark: I would feel very hesitant to contribute software under this license, since it

Motosoto PL remarks

2001-10-02 Thread Abe Kornelis
Hello all, I've been reading the Motosoto Open Source License. The following details struck me: 1) the derivation from JOSL is apparent, but somehow Motosoto managed to garble the paragraph numbers. Not a real disaster, just inconvenient. 2) In the paragraph numbered 5, Motosoto

Re: Open source + commercial

2001-09-15 Thread Abe Kornelis
Ravicher, Daniel B. wrote: Not to be sarcastic, but good luck trying to delineate commercial from non. -- There's a relatively easy way around that one: the usual commercial distributors guard their source code as their own holy grail. So the Open Source License would be applicable to

Contamination

2001-08-30 Thread Abe Kornelis
Hello all, I have a question regarding contamination. English is not my native language, I'm trying to avoid misunderstanding the OSI concepts. I have a macro library that I would release under an open source license. I want everyone to be able to use and/or enhance the macros in the library