[Lift] Lift on Stack Overflow

2010-01-12 Thread Daniel Sobral
I gathered some stats on number of question by tag:

java x 30950
asp.net x 26451
php x 24854
asp.net-mvc x 8670
ruby-on-rails x 8513
ruby x 6620 -- just to contrast with ruby-on-rails
django x 4550
flash x 3828
silverlight x 3365
spring x 1468
forms x 1339
jsp x 1326
wordpress x 1004
j2ee x 844
gwt x 779
grails x 763
SCALA x 698
coldfusion x 686
groovy x 607 -- just to contrast with grails

That's from the first 5 pages of tags, and I'm left out forks from the
main tag, such as php5.

lift is on page 43, with, coincidentally, 43 questions. There's also
lift-1.1 with 2 questions. (PS, I noticed one of the questions tagged Lift
has nothing whatsoever to do with it -- I'll be editting that question to
remove that tag).

I worry that the visibility of Lift is is way below that of other
frameworks, particularly when one takes into account that Rails and Grails
have more questions than Ruby and Groovy respectively.

Also, the answer rate on these questions is not very good. I think
visibility on Stack Overflow is important, so I ask you to consider
dedicating a little bit of time to it.

Questions tagged with Lift can be found with the link
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/lift.
One can also get RSS, for newest questions
http://stackoverflow.com/feeds/tag?tagnames=liftsort=newest, or active
questions (recent activity)
http://stackoverflow.com/feeds/tag?tagnames=liftsort=hot.

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Re: [Lift] Lift on Stack Overflow

2010-01-12 Thread David Pollak
My 2 cents (and maybe this is 'cause I'm an old guy), but I don't see the
value of supporting yet another Lift support forum.  This list is highly
visible and the folks on this list of very helpful.  The list is searchable
(although not taggable).  We don't do support on Twitter.  We don't
officially do support on IRC (although a fair number of Lift committers hang
out there).  We try to keep the energy and focus on this mailing list.

Please tell me what the advantage to Stack Overflow is vs. a list like this
one?  What kind of better experience would the asker of a question have on
Stack Overflow?

On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 5:27 AM, Daniel Sobral dcsob...@gmail.com wrote:

 I gathered some stats on number of question by tag:

 java x 30950
 asp.net x 26451
 php x 24854
 asp.net-mvc x 8670
 ruby-on-rails x 8513
 ruby x 6620 -- just to contrast with ruby-on-rails
 django x 4550
 flash x 3828
 silverlight x 3365
 spring x 1468
 forms x 1339
 jsp x 1326
 wordpress x 1004
 j2ee x 844
 gwt x 779
 grails x 763
 SCALA x 698
 coldfusion x 686
 groovy x 607 -- just to contrast with grails

 That's from the first 5 pages of tags, and I'm left out forks from the
 main tag, such as php5.

 lift is on page 43, with, coincidentally, 43 questions. There's also
 lift-1.1 with 2 questions. (PS, I noticed one of the questions tagged Lift
 has nothing whatsoever to do with it -- I'll be editting that question to
 remove that tag).

 I worry that the visibility of Lift is is way below that of other
 frameworks, particularly when one takes into account that Rails and Grails
 have more questions than Ruby and Groovy respectively.

 Also, the answer rate on these questions is not very good. I think
 visibility on Stack Overflow is important, so I ask you to consider
 dedicating a little bit of time to it.

 Questions tagged with Lift can be found with the link
 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/lift.
 One can also get RSS, for newest questions
 http://stackoverflow.com/feeds/tag?tagnames=liftsort=newest, or active
 questions (recent activity)
 http://stackoverflow.com/feeds/tag?tagnames=liftsort=hot.

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Re: [Lift] Lift on Stack Overflow

2010-01-12 Thread Timothy Perrett
StackOverflow tends to be peer to peer IMO; I dont believe that MUST be 
committers or whatever, as DPP says, this is the official forum, if other users 
or committers use stack overflow, then sure, but i doubt I'll be hanging out 
there massively. 

Cheers, Tim

On 12 Jan 2010, at 16:41, David Pollak wrote:

 My 2 cents (and maybe this is 'cause I'm an old guy), but I don't see the 
 value of supporting yet another Lift support forum.  This list is highly 
 visible and the folks on this list of very helpful.  The list is searchable 
 (although not taggable).  We don't do support on Twitter.  We don't 
 officially do support on IRC (although a fair number of Lift committers hang 
 out there).  We try to keep the energy and focus on this mailing list.
 
 Please tell me what the advantage to Stack Overflow is vs. a list like this 
 one?  What kind of better experience would the asker of a question have on 
 Stack Overflow?
 
 On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 5:27 AM, Daniel Sobral dcsob...@gmail.com wrote:
 I gathered some stats on number of question by tag:
  
 java x 30950
 asp.net x 26451
 php x 24854
 asp.net-mvc x 8670
 ruby-on-rails x 8513
 ruby x 6620 -- just to contrast with ruby-on-rails
 django x 4550
 flash x 3828
 silverlight x 3365
 spring x 1468
 forms x 1339
 jsp x 1326
 wordpress x 1004
 j2ee x 844
 gwt x 779
 grails x 763
 SCALA x 698
 coldfusion x 686
 groovy x 607 -- just to contrast with grails
  
 That's from the first 5 pages of tags, and I'm left out forks from the main 
 tag, such as php5.
  
 lift is on page 43, with, coincidentally, 43 questions. There's also lift-1.1 
 with 2 questions. (PS, I noticed one of the questions tagged Lift has nothing 
 whatsoever to do with it -- I'll be editting that question to remove that 
 tag).
  
 I worry that the visibility of Lift is is way below that of other frameworks, 
 particularly when one takes into account that Rails and Grails have more 
 questions than Ruby and Groovy respectively.
  
 Also, the answer rate on these questions is not very good. I think visibility 
 on Stack Overflow is important, so I ask you to consider dedicating a little 
 bit of time to it.
  
 Questions tagged with Lift can be found with the link 
 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/lift.
 One can also get RSS, for newest questions 
 http://stackoverflow.com/feeds/tag?tagnames=liftsort=newest, or active 
 questions (recent activity) 
 http://stackoverflow.com/feeds/tag?tagnames=liftsort=hot.
 
 -- 
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Re: [Lift] Lift on Stack Overflow

2010-01-12 Thread Naftoli Gugenheim
What would be really neat is if someone would make a Lift app that would be a 
front end for this mailing list, and add the ability to organize threads into 
categories, and tag them, etc.  :)


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Timothy Perretttimo...@getintheloop.eu wrote:

StackOverflow tends to be peer to peer IMO; I dont believe that MUST be 
committers or whatever, as DPP says, this is the official forum, if other users 
or committers use stack overflow, then sure, but i doubt I'll be hanging out 
there massively. 

Cheers, Tim

On 12 Jan 2010, at 16:41, David Pollak wrote:

 My 2 cents (and maybe this is 'cause I'm an old guy), but I don't see the 
 value of supporting yet another Lift support forum.  This list is highly 
 visible and the folks on this list of very helpful.  The list is searchable 
 (although not taggable).  We don't do support on Twitter.  We don't 
 officially do support on IRC (although a fair number of Lift committers hang 
 out there).  We try to keep the energy and focus on this mailing list.
 
 Please tell me what the advantage to Stack Overflow is vs. a list like this 
 one?  What kind of better experience would the asker of a question have on 
 Stack Overflow?
 
 On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 5:27 AM, Daniel Sobral dcsob...@gmail.com wrote:
 I gathered some stats on number of question by tag:
  
 java x 30950
 asp.net x 26451
 php x 24854
 asp.net-mvc x 8670
 ruby-on-rails x 8513
 ruby x 6620 -- just to contrast with ruby-on-rails
 django x 4550
 flash x 3828
 silverlight x 3365
 spring x 1468
 forms x 1339
 jsp x 1326
 wordpress x 1004
 j2ee x 844
 gwt x 779
 grails x 763
 SCALA x 698
 coldfusion x 686
 groovy x 607 -- just to contrast with grails
  
 That's from the first 5 pages of tags, and I'm left out forks from the main 
 tag, such as php5.
  
 lift is on page 43, with, coincidentally, 43 questions. There's also lift-1.1 
 with 2 questions. (PS, I noticed one of the questions tagged Lift has nothing 
 whatsoever to do with it -- I'll be editting that question to remove that 
 tag).
  
 I worry that the visibility of Lift is is way below that of other frameworks, 
 particularly when one takes into account that Rails and Grails have more 
 questions than Ruby and Groovy respectively.
  
 Also, the answer rate on these questions is not very good. I think visibility 
 on Stack Overflow is important, so I ask you to consider dedicating a little 
 bit of time to it.
  
 Questions tagged with Lift can be found with the link 
 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/lift.
 One can also get RSS, for newest questions 
 http://stackoverflow.com/feeds/tag?tagnames=liftsort=newest, or active 
 questions (recent activity) 
 http://stackoverflow.com/feeds/tag?tagnames=liftsort=hot.
 
 -- 
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Re: [Lift] Lift on Stack Overflow

2010-01-12 Thread Alex Boisvert
As someone who answers questions, I prefer email because of the unified
inbox.  I can organize many things in a single location and refer to them
easily.   (I know I can use RSS with SO but I have yet to find a satisfying
way to organize question feeds into my existing stream of emails)

As someone who looks for or simply reads answers (I've never asked a
question on SO yet), I prefer the experience of Stack Overflow.  The answers
are ranked, organized, filtered, etc.   The main drawback for me there is
there's possibly too much stuff that draws me away from actual work ;)

alex


On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Timothy Perrett
timo...@getintheloop.euwrote:

 StackOverflow tends to be peer to peer IMO; I dont believe that MUST be
 committers or whatever, as DPP says, this is the official forum, if other
 users or committers use stack overflow, then sure, but i doubt I'll be
 hanging out there massively.

 Cheers, Tim

 On 12 Jan 2010, at 16:41, David Pollak wrote:

 My 2 cents (and maybe this is 'cause I'm an old guy), but I don't see the
 value of supporting yet another Lift support forum.  This list is highly
 visible and the folks on this list of very helpful.  The list is searchable
 (although not taggable).  We don't do support on Twitter.  We don't
 officially do support on IRC (although a fair number of Lift committers hang
 out there).  We try to keep the energy and focus on this mailing list.

 Please tell me what the advantage to Stack Overflow is vs. a list like this
 one?  What kind of better experience would the asker of a question have on
 Stack Overflow?

 On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 5:27 AM, Daniel Sobral dcsob...@gmail.com wrote:

 I gathered some stats on number of question by tag:

 java x 30950
 asp.net x 26451
 php x 24854
 asp.net-mvc x 8670
 ruby-on-rails x 8513
 ruby x 6620 -- just to contrast with ruby-on-rails
 django x 4550
 flash x 3828
 silverlight x 3365
 spring x 1468
 forms x 1339
 jsp x 1326
 wordpress x 1004
 j2ee x 844
 gwt x 779
 grails x 763
 SCALA x 698
 coldfusion x 686
 groovy x 607 -- just to contrast with grails

 That's from the first 5 pages of tags, and I'm left out forks from the
 main tag, such as php5.

 lift is on page 43, with, coincidentally, 43 questions. There's also
 lift-1.1 with 2 questions. (PS, I noticed one of the questions tagged Lift
 has nothing whatsoever to do with it -- I'll be editting that question to
 remove that tag).

 I worry that the visibility of Lift is is way below that of other
 frameworks, particularly when one takes into account that Rails and Grails
 have more questions than Ruby and Groovy respectively.

 Also, the answer rate on these questions is not very good. I think
 visibility on Stack Overflow is important, so I ask you to consider
 dedicating a little bit of time to it.

 Questions tagged with Lift can be found with the link
 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/lift.
 One can also get RSS, for newest questions
 http://stackoverflow.com/feeds/tag?tagnames=liftsort=newest, or active
 questions (recent activity)
 http://stackoverflow.com/feeds/tag?tagnames=liftsort=hot.

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