Re: [Lift] New ticketing system

2010-01-28 Thread Heiko Seeberger
On 28 January 2010 15:06, David Pollak wrote:

I can host an instance.  The big issue as I see it is have a reliable
> maintainer.  In order to use LiftTicket, we need someone who is around most
> of the time (46+ weeks a year), can fix bugs in a few days, has a solid
> Internet connection, etc.  If we can find a reliable maintainer, I'm all for
> moving forward with LiftTicket.
>

I think this is (too) risky ...

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Re: [Lift] New ticketing system

2010-01-28 Thread David Pollak
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 10:15 PM, Naftoli Gugenheim wrote:

> Could some people take LiftTicket for a spin and comment? To clarify, it's
> already pretty functional.
> Here are some things not yet working or partially working, according to
> Derek:
>
>- File attachments
>- Possibly user comments (changes are logged), may be just lack of UI
>
> This would have to work before we started using it.


>
>- Ticket changes are not yet emailed
>- Milestone support may need redesign? Currently has Module and
>ModuleRelease; Module allows multiple projects in same LiftTicket instance.
>Is that desirable?
>
> However as a basic tool I think it's decent. I would love to hear comments.
> Maybe someone could host an instance of LiftTicket to track its progress? :)
>

I can host an instance.  The big issue as I see it is have a reliable
maintainer.  In order to use LiftTicket, we need someone who is around most
of the time (46+ weeks a year), can fix bugs in a few days, has a solid
Internet connection, etc.  If we can find a reliable maintainer, I'm all for
moving forward with LiftTicket.


>
>
> On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Naftoli Gugenheim 
> wrote:
>
>> For anyone who wants to give LiftTicket a spin:
>> Download it from www.github.com/dchenbecker/LiftTicket
>> Extract it into a directory and open a command prompt or shell there
>> mvn -Dorg.liftticket.config.masterpass=xxx jetty:run
>> Open a browser to http://localhost:8080/config/initial and enter your
>> password (what you wrote for xxx above).
>> Navigate to User Administration and create a user with full permisions.
>> Terminate jetty
>> mvn jetty:run
>> Login as that user and set up all your settings
>>
>> There doesn't seem to be a way to configure default permissions.
>>
>>
>> -
>> David Pollak wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 11:12 AM, Naftoli Gugenheim > >wrote:
>>
>> > I think it would be a *major* wasted opportunity not to invest in
>> > LiftTicket.
>>
>>
>> I agree.
>>
>>
>> > It would be an excellent real life showcase of Lift. And of course it
>> > wouldn't make sense to switch to Assembla only temporarily.
>> > In addition, after all the work Derek put into it, it would be sad not
>> to
>> > use it.
>> >
>>
>> I agree.
>>
>>
>> > Derek said that it's pretty near functional. G-d willing I will try to
>> > download it today and see where it's holding, and see if I can move it
>> > forward. David, what features does Assembla have that you would like to
>> see
>> > in LiftTicket (or even if Assembla doesn't)?
>> >
>>
>> This is pretty compelling:
>>
>>
>> http://www.assembla.com/spaces/clojure/tickets?batch=false&tickets_report_id=1&ticket_id=
>>
>> As is:
>>
>> http://www.assembla.com/spaces/tickets/metrics/b4-TTcvBSr3RAZeJe5aVNr
>>
>> Being able to plan and in other ways communicate among the committers as
>> well as with the community is very powerful.
>>
>>
>> > In any case once it's basically usable we can start using it, and add
>> > features along the way.
>>
>>
>> I'm all for that!
>>
>>
>> > Also, importing tickets from GitHub should be a matter of a trivial
>> scala
>> > script.
>> >
>> >
>> > -
>> > Jeppe Nejsum Madsen wrote:
>> >
>> > David Pollak  writes:
>> >
>> > > Folks,
>> > >
>> > > We switched to GitHub's ticketing system a bunch of months ago and,
>> well,
>> > > it's not making the grade.  It's slow.  It's limited (no unclosing
>> > tickets,
>> > > no attachments, weak discussion capaibilities).  It doesn't allow easy
>> > > planning/prioritization.
>> > >
>> > > I'd like to switch to something more powerful.  Derek was working on
>> > > LiftTicket.  I'd like to use that, but don't know the state of the
>> > project.
>> > > Alternatively, we could use Assembla's ticketing system.
>> > >
>> > > Does anyone have thoughts/input on the issue?
>> >
>> > We're using Assembla.  Seems to work fine for our small shop. It has a
>> > lot of features that we don't use but which I think could be handy for
>> > Lift.
>> >
>> > Have a look at the clojure space to see how it may look for an OSS
>> > project.
>> >
>> > Also, it seems (haven't tried) that it's possible to import tickets:
>> >
>> > http://i1t2b3.com/2009/08/26/how-to-import-tickets-assembla/
>> >
>> > /Jeppe
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Re: [Lift] New ticketing system

2010-01-27 Thread Naftoli Gugenheim
Could some people take LiftTicket for a spin and comment? To clarify, it's
already pretty functional.
Here are some things not yet working or partially working, according to
Derek:

   - File attachments
   - Possibly user comments (changes are logged), may be just lack of UI
   - Ticket changes are not yet emailed
   - Milestone support may need redesign? Currently has Module and
   ModuleRelease; Module allows multiple projects in same LiftTicket instance.
   Is that desirable?

However as a basic tool I think it's decent. I would love to hear comments.
Maybe someone could host an instance of LiftTicket to track its progress? :)


On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Naftoli Gugenheim wrote:

> For anyone who wants to give LiftTicket a spin:
> Download it from www.github.com/dchenbecker/LiftTicket
> Extract it into a directory and open a command prompt or shell there
> mvn -Dorg.liftticket.config.masterpass=xxx jetty:run
> Open a browser to http://localhost:8080/config/initial and enter your
> password (what you wrote for xxx above).
> Navigate to User Administration and create a user with full permisions.
> Terminate jetty
> mvn jetty:run
> Login as that user and set up all your settings
>
> There doesn't seem to be a way to configure default permissions.
>
>
> -
> David Pollak wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 11:12 AM, Naftoli Gugenheim  >wrote:
>
> > I think it would be a *major* wasted opportunity not to invest in
> > LiftTicket.
>
>
> I agree.
>
>
> > It would be an excellent real life showcase of Lift. And of course it
> > wouldn't make sense to switch to Assembla only temporarily.
> > In addition, after all the work Derek put into it, it would be sad not to
> > use it.
> >
>
> I agree.
>
>
> > Derek said that it's pretty near functional. G-d willing I will try to
> > download it today and see where it's holding, and see if I can move it
> > forward. David, what features does Assembla have that you would like to
> see
> > in LiftTicket (or even if Assembla doesn't)?
> >
>
> This is pretty compelling:
>
>
> http://www.assembla.com/spaces/clojure/tickets?batch=false&tickets_report_id=1&ticket_id=
>
> As is:
>
> http://www.assembla.com/spaces/tickets/metrics/b4-TTcvBSr3RAZeJe5aVNr
>
> Being able to plan and in other ways communicate among the committers as
> well as with the community is very powerful.
>
>
> > In any case once it's basically usable we can start using it, and add
> > features along the way.
>
>
> I'm all for that!
>
>
> > Also, importing tickets from GitHub should be a matter of a trivial scala
> > script.
> >
> >
> > -
> > Jeppe Nejsum Madsen wrote:
> >
> > David Pollak  writes:
> >
> > > Folks,
> > >
> > > We switched to GitHub's ticketing system a bunch of months ago and,
> well,
> > > it's not making the grade.  It's slow.  It's limited (no unclosing
> > tickets,
> > > no attachments, weak discussion capaibilities).  It doesn't allow easy
> > > planning/prioritization.
> > >
> > > I'd like to switch to something more powerful.  Derek was working on
> > > LiftTicket.  I'd like to use that, but don't know the state of the
> > project.
> > > Alternatively, we could use Assembla's ticketing system.
> > >
> > > Does anyone have thoughts/input on the issue?
> >
> > We're using Assembla.  Seems to work fine for our small shop. It has a
> > lot of features that we don't use but which I think could be handy for
> > Lift.
> >
> > Have a look at the clojure space to see how it may look for an OSS
> > project.
> >
> > Also, it seems (haven't tried) that it's possible to import tickets:
> >
> > http://i1t2b3.com/2009/08/26/how-to-import-tickets-assembla/
> >
> > /Jeppe
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Re: [Lift] New ticketing system

2010-01-26 Thread Naftoli Gugenheim
What "worst case scenario" are you afraid of happening using LiftTicket?


-
Heiko Seeberger wrote:

2010/1/26 David Pollak 

> Folks,
>
> We switched to GitHub's ticketing system a bunch of months ago and, well,
> it's not making the grade.  It's slow.  It's limited (no unclosing tickets,
> no attachments, weak discussion capaibilities).  It doesn't allow easy
> planning/prioritization.
>
> I'd like to switch to something more powerful.  Derek was working on
> LiftTicket.  I'd like to use that, but don't know the state of the project.
> Alternatively, we could use Assembla's ticketing system.
>
> Does anyone have thoughts/input on the issue?
>

Let's go for Assembla. A ticketing system is ways too important (it just has
to work) than we could rely on something under development like LiftTicket.
Sorry!

Heiko

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Re: [Lift] New ticketing system

2010-01-26 Thread Heiko Seeberger
2010/1/26 David Pollak 

> Folks,
>
> We switched to GitHub's ticketing system a bunch of months ago and, well,
> it's not making the grade.  It's slow.  It's limited (no unclosing tickets,
> no attachments, weak discussion capaibilities).  It doesn't allow easy
> planning/prioritization.
>
> I'd like to switch to something more powerful.  Derek was working on
> LiftTicket.  I'd like to use that, but don't know the state of the project.
> Alternatively, we could use Assembla's ticketing system.
>
> Does anyone have thoughts/input on the issue?
>

Let's go for Assembla. A ticketing system is ways too important (it just has
to work) than we could rely on something under development like LiftTicket.
Sorry!

Heiko

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Re: [Lift] New ticketing system

2010-01-26 Thread Naftoli Gugenheim
For anyone who wants to give LiftTicket a spin:
Download it from www.github.com/dchenbecker/LiftTicket
Extract it into a directory and open a command prompt or shell there
mvn -Dorg.liftticket.config.masterpass=xxx jetty:run
Open a browser to http://localhost:8080/config/initial and enter your password 
(what you wrote for xxx above).
Navigate to User Administration and create a user with full permisions.
Terminate jetty
mvn jetty:run
Login as that user and set up all your settings

There doesn't seem to be a way to configure default permissions.


-
David Pollak wrote:

On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 11:12 AM, Naftoli Gugenheim wrote:

> I think it would be a *major* wasted opportunity not to invest in
> LiftTicket.


I agree.


> It would be an excellent real life showcase of Lift. And of course it
> wouldn't make sense to switch to Assembla only temporarily.
> In addition, after all the work Derek put into it, it would be sad not to
> use it.
>

I agree.


> Derek said that it's pretty near functional. G-d willing I will try to
> download it today and see where it's holding, and see if I can move it
> forward. David, what features does Assembla have that you would like to see
> in LiftTicket (or even if Assembla doesn't)?
>

This is pretty compelling:

http://www.assembla.com/spaces/clojure/tickets?batch=false&tickets_report_id=1&ticket_id=

As is:

http://www.assembla.com/spaces/tickets/metrics/b4-TTcvBSr3RAZeJe5aVNr

Being able to plan and in other ways communicate among the committers as
well as with the community is very powerful.


> In any case once it's basically usable we can start using it, and add
> features along the way.


I'm all for that!


> Also, importing tickets from GitHub should be a matter of a trivial scala
> script.
>
>
> -
> Jeppe Nejsum Madsen wrote:
>
> David Pollak  writes:
>
> > Folks,
> >
> > We switched to GitHub's ticketing system a bunch of months ago and, well,
> > it's not making the grade.  It's slow.  It's limited (no unclosing
> tickets,
> > no attachments, weak discussion capaibilities).  It doesn't allow easy
> > planning/prioritization.
> >
> > I'd like to switch to something more powerful.  Derek was working on
> > LiftTicket.  I'd like to use that, but don't know the state of the
> project.
> > Alternatively, we could use Assembla's ticketing system.
> >
> > Does anyone have thoughts/input on the issue?
>
> We're using Assembla.  Seems to work fine for our small shop. It has a
> lot of features that we don't use but which I think could be handy for
> Lift.
>
> Have a look at the clojure space to see how it may look for an OSS
> project.
>
> Also, it seems (haven't tried) that it's possible to import tickets:
>
> http://i1t2b3.com/2009/08/26/how-to-import-tickets-assembla/
>
> /Jeppe
>
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Re: [Lift] New ticketing system

2010-01-26 Thread Daniel Truemper

> We used Lighthouse briefly and it was a seriously suboptimal user experience 
> for me and others... thus the switch to GitHub.
:)

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Re: [Lift] New ticketing system

2010-01-26 Thread David Pollak
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 11:12 AM, Naftoli Gugenheim wrote:

> I think it would be a *major* wasted opportunity not to invest in
> LiftTicket.


I agree.


> It would be an excellent real life showcase of Lift. And of course it
> wouldn't make sense to switch to Assembla only temporarily.
> In addition, after all the work Derek put into it, it would be sad not to
> use it.
>

I agree.


> Derek said that it's pretty near functional. G-d willing I will try to
> download it today and see where it's holding, and see if I can move it
> forward. David, what features does Assembla have that you would like to see
> in LiftTicket (or even if Assembla doesn't)?
>

This is pretty compelling:

http://www.assembla.com/spaces/clojure/tickets?batch=false&tickets_report_id=1&ticket_id=

As is:

http://www.assembla.com/spaces/tickets/metrics/b4-TTcvBSr3RAZeJe5aVNr

Being able to plan and in other ways communicate among the committers as
well as with the community is very powerful.


> In any case once it's basically usable we can start using it, and add
> features along the way.


I'm all for that!


> Also, importing tickets from GitHub should be a matter of a trivial scala
> script.
>
>
> -
> Jeppe Nejsum Madsen wrote:
>
> David Pollak  writes:
>
> > Folks,
> >
> > We switched to GitHub's ticketing system a bunch of months ago and, well,
> > it's not making the grade.  It's slow.  It's limited (no unclosing
> tickets,
> > no attachments, weak discussion capaibilities).  It doesn't allow easy
> > planning/prioritization.
> >
> > I'd like to switch to something more powerful.  Derek was working on
> > LiftTicket.  I'd like to use that, but don't know the state of the
> project.
> > Alternatively, we could use Assembla's ticketing system.
> >
> > Does anyone have thoughts/input on the issue?
>
> We're using Assembla.  Seems to work fine for our small shop. It has a
> lot of features that we don't use but which I think could be handy for
> Lift.
>
> Have a look at the clojure space to see how it may look for an OSS
> project.
>
> Also, it seems (haven't tried) that it's possible to import tickets:
>
> http://i1t2b3.com/2009/08/26/how-to-import-tickets-assembla/
>
> /Jeppe
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Re: [Lift] New ticketing system

2010-01-26 Thread David Pollak
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Daniel Truemper
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> so far I have been a passive reader of this group. Lift is just a (very)
> smal time project, but I like it a lot! Anyways:
>
> >> We switched to GitHub's ticketing system a bunch of months ago and,
> well,
> >> it's not making the grade.  It's slow.  It's limited (no unclosing
> tickets,
> >> no attachments, weak discussion capaibilities).  It doesn't allow easy
> >> planning/prioritization.
> >>
> >> I'd like to switch to something more powerful.  Derek was working on
> >> LiftTicket.  I'd like to use that, but don't know the state of the
> project.
> >> Alternatively, we could use Assembla's ticketing system.
> >>
> >> Does anyone have thoughts/input on the issue?
> I see many projects on GitHub using Lighthouse:
>

We used Lighthouse briefly and it was a seriously suboptimal user experience
for me and others... thus the switch to GitHub.


>
> http://lighthouseapp.com/
>
> And if I remember correctly, the github's service hook for lighthouse
> will enable the 'closes #123' type of commit messages...
>
> Best
> Daniel
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Re: [Lift] New ticketing system

2010-01-26 Thread Daniel Truemper
Hi,

so far I have been a passive reader of this group. Lift is just a (very)
smal time project, but I like it a lot! Anyways:

>> We switched to GitHub's ticketing system a bunch of months ago and, well,
>> it's not making the grade.  It's slow.  It's limited (no unclosing tickets,
>> no attachments, weak discussion capaibilities).  It doesn't allow easy
>> planning/prioritization.
>>
>> I'd like to switch to something more powerful.  Derek was working on
>> LiftTicket.  I'd like to use that, but don't know the state of the project.
>> Alternatively, we could use Assembla's ticketing system.
>>
>> Does anyone have thoughts/input on the issue?
I see many projects on GitHub using Lighthouse:

http://lighthouseapp.com/

And if I remember correctly, the github's service hook for lighthouse
will enable the 'closes #123' type of commit messages...

Best
Daniel

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Re: [Lift] New ticketing system

2010-01-26 Thread Naftoli Gugenheim
I think it would be a *major* wasted opportunity not to invest in LiftTicket. 
It would be an excellent real life showcase of Lift. And of course it wouldn't 
make sense to switch to Assembla only temporarily.
In addition, after all the work Derek put into it, it would be sad not to use 
it.
Derek said that it's pretty near functional. G-d willing I will try to download 
it today and see where it's holding, and see if I can move it forward. David, 
what features does Assembla have that you would like to see in LiftTicket (or 
even if Assembla doesn't)?
In any case once it's basically usable we can start using it, and add features 
along the way. Also, importing tickets from GitHub should be a matter of a 
trivial scala script.


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Jeppe Nejsum Madsen wrote:

David Pollak  writes:

> Folks,
>
> We switched to GitHub's ticketing system a bunch of months ago and, well,
> it's not making the grade.  It's slow.  It's limited (no unclosing tickets,
> no attachments, weak discussion capaibilities).  It doesn't allow easy
> planning/prioritization.
>
> I'd like to switch to something more powerful.  Derek was working on
> LiftTicket.  I'd like to use that, but don't know the state of the project.
> Alternatively, we could use Assembla's ticketing system.
>
> Does anyone have thoughts/input on the issue?

We're using Assembla.  Seems to work fine for our small shop. It has a
lot of features that we don't use but which I think could be handy for
Lift.

Have a look at the clojure space to see how it may look for an OSS
project.

Also, it seems (haven't tried) that it's possible to import tickets:

http://i1t2b3.com/2009/08/26/how-to-import-tickets-assembla/

/Jeppe

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Re: [Lift] New ticketing system

2010-01-26 Thread Jeppe Nejsum Madsen
David Pollak  writes:

> Folks,
>
> We switched to GitHub's ticketing system a bunch of months ago and, well,
> it's not making the grade.  It's slow.  It's limited (no unclosing tickets,
> no attachments, weak discussion capaibilities).  It doesn't allow easy
> planning/prioritization.
>
> I'd like to switch to something more powerful.  Derek was working on
> LiftTicket.  I'd like to use that, but don't know the state of the project.
> Alternatively, we could use Assembla's ticketing system.
>
> Does anyone have thoughts/input on the issue?

We're using Assembla.  Seems to work fine for our small shop. It has a
lot of features that we don't use but which I think could be handy for
Lift.

Have a look at the clojure space to see how it may look for an OSS
project.

Also, it seems (haven't tried) that it's possible to import tickets:

http://i1t2b3.com/2009/08/26/how-to-import-tickets-assembla/

/Jeppe

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[Lift] New ticketing system

2010-01-26 Thread David Pollak
Folks,

We switched to GitHub's ticketing system a bunch of months ago and, well,
it's not making the grade.  It's slow.  It's limited (no unclosing tickets,
no attachments, weak discussion capaibilities).  It doesn't allow easy
planning/prioritization.

I'd like to switch to something more powerful.  Derek was working on
LiftTicket.  I'd like to use that, but don't know the state of the project.
Alternatively, we could use Assembla's ticketing system.

Does anyone have thoughts/input on the issue?

Thanks,

David

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