[Lift] Re: Creating your own tags?

2009-08-29 Thread Timothy Perrett
Yeah perhaps utilize an xml maven plugin or similar - for the moment (and this proof of concept) think i'll stick to using lift tags and consider doing this sort of XSLT implementation for some IDE integration or whatever... We'll see what happens and how this process evolves over time. Thanks f

[Lift] Re: Creating your own tags?

2009-08-29 Thread Viktor Klang
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Timothy Perrett wrote: > > Hey Viktor, > > I think you might be right... but how to plug such an XSLT into the > template processing pipeline? I'd guess it depends on how you want to handle it. if it's just templates I guess you could manage it externally ("use t

[Lift] Re: Creating your own tags?

2009-08-29 Thread Timothy Perrett
Hey Viktor, I think you might be right... but how to plug such an XSLT into the template processing pipeline? Cheers, Tim PS: Glad to see your broken keyboard is still producing amusing results lol ;-) On Aug 29, 7:57 am, Viktor Klang wrote: > Tim, if you really want to go that riute create a

[Lift] Re: Creating your own tags?

2009-08-28 Thread Viktor Klang
Tim, if you really want to go that riute create an xslt to transform your custom tags to luft tags? On Aug 29, 2009 8:01 AM, "marius d." wrote: Tim, obscuring things may get you a really long way indeed. But once the obscurity get broken and people figure out that they can do other things by us

[Lift] Re: Creating your own tags?

2009-08-28 Thread marius d.
Tim, obscuring things may get you a really long way indeed. But once the obscurity get broken and people figure out that they can do other things by using strange undocumented tags (i.e lift tags) they could cause lots of problems and side effects. Personally I'd stay away from it. And if I'd nee

[Lift] Re: Creating your own tags?

2009-08-28 Thread Charles F. Munat
Security by obscurity, eh? Timothy Perrett wrote: > Its not that I want to completely stop the normal lift tag processing, I > don't, I just want to make it appear to users as if they are not using > lift... That might sound crazy, but essentially I want users to only know > about that tags they

[Lift] Re: Creating your own tags?

2009-08-28 Thread Timothy Perrett
Its not that I want to completely stop the normal lift tag processing, I don't, I just want to make it appear to users as if they are not using lift... That might sound crazy, but essentially I want users to only know about that tags they are told about, rather than having obvious access to all th

[Lift] Re: Creating your own tags?

2009-08-28 Thread marius d.
On Aug 28, 11:20 pm, Timothy Perrett wrote: > Hey Marius > > Firstly I agree with your thoughts on LiftTagPF - im not sure that > overriding the default lift tags would ever be a good idea for > implementing users... Well I was referring to overwriting (as those would take precedence over buil

[Lift] Re: Creating your own tags?

2009-08-28 Thread marius d.
Personally I'm not a fan of such feature. To me this doesn't bring much benefits especially that snippets pretty much allow this support such as: ...yes the wrapping tag is extra typing but still I can't find a real problem where a custom tags solves it and snippets do now. To me this look

[Lift] Re: Creating your own tags?

2009-08-28 Thread Timothy Perrett
Hey Marius Firstly I agree with your thoughts on LiftTagPF - im not sure that overriding the default lift tags would ever be a good idea for implementing users... However, I do see a use case, in, for instance the CMS arena where having a specialized tagging mechanism would be beneficial because

[Lift] Re: Creating your own tags?

2009-08-28 Thread Timothy Perrett
Hey David, Id like to echo your thoughts - I see no issue with views being tied to plugins or other such arbitrary tags... as you say, they are already tied to snippets. What are your thoughts on how arbitrary tag / prefix support could be implemented? Cheers, Tim > There's been some discussio

[Lift] Re: Creating your own tags?

2009-08-28 Thread David Pollak
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 8:03 AM, Timothy Perrett wrote: > > Guys, > > If I wanted to create my own set of custom tags that looked like: > > There's been some discussion of this feature in the past. The generally outcome is that cost of prefix/label soup would become very confusing because the