Re: [Lightning-dev] Mitigations for loop attacks

2018-05-10 Thread Chris Gough
On Fri, May 11, 2018 at 9:18 AM, Jim Posen wrote: > Hmm, I'm not quite following the situation. What do you mean by "directs > normal traffic"? Since the sender constructs the entire circuit, routing > nodes do not get any discretion over which nodes to forward a payment to,

Re: [Lightning-dev] Mitigations for loop attacks

2018-05-10 Thread Jim Posen
Hmm, I'm not quite following the situation. What do you mean by "directs normal traffic"? Since the sender constructs the entire circuit, routing nodes do not get any discretion over which nodes to forward a payment to, only whether to forward or fail. What an attacker could do is perform a loop

Re: [Lightning-dev] Mitigations for loop attacks

2018-05-10 Thread Chris Gough
hello, I'm a curious lurker trying to follow this conversation: On Thu, 10 May 2018, 2:40 pm ZmnSCPxj via Lightning-dev, < lightning-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: > > The concern however is that the CLTV already partly leaks the distance > from the payee, whereas the reputation-loss-rate