Re: [Lightning-dev] INTEROPERABILITY

2021-11-24 Thread x raid
yes i do have a solution that is easily integrated to the different impl for pumping up live loglines, what's needed there for this very purpose would be a html ws UI with side by side windows representing a impl instance version, also a query for download files of range unix.ts per instance.

Re: [Lightning-dev] INTEROPERABILITY

2021-11-24 Thread ZmnSCPxj via Lightning-dev
Good morning x raid, > We are talkin interoperability among impl not individual node operators > version management of chosen impl. > > where Pierre of Acinq says > "So we eat our own dog food and will experience force closes before our users > do.." > hahaha made my day ... > > a node operator

Re: [Lightning-dev] INTEROPERABILITY

2021-11-23 Thread x raid
We are talkin interoperability among impl not individual node operators version management of chosen impl. where Pierre of Acinq says "So we eat our own dog food and will experience force closes before our users do.." hahaha made my day ... a node operator do tests live in its continuous

Re: [Lightning-dev] INTEROPERABILITY

2021-11-23 Thread ZmnSCPxj via Lightning-dev
Good morning x-raid, > so You propose Acinq / Blockstream / Lightning Labs do not have funds to run > a box or 2 ? Not at all, I am proposing that these people, who have already done the effort to release working Lightning Network Node implementations free of charge to you, are not obligated

Re: [Lightning-dev] INTEROPERABILITY

2021-11-23 Thread Pierre
> so You propose Acinq / Blockstream / Lightning Labs do not have funds to run a box or 2 ? Fwiw we already do that with our main node. It's even better than a demo one because it has real economic activity, and has a lot of channels to a variety of nodes implementations and versions. Sometimes

Re: [Lightning-dev] INTEROPERABILITY

2021-11-23 Thread x raid
Each dev does tests on a local machine before push to repo, repo maintainers do tests and when satisfied do an acceptance test in the proposed system to verify against all other implementations partaking before public release. Has not anything to do with You relly, not Your private machine but

Re: [Lightning-dev] INTEROPERABILITY

2021-11-23 Thread x raid
so You propose Acinq / Blockstream / Lightning Labs do not have funds to run a box or 2 ? contributions can be made towards each impl by ppl while the project still do need put liquidity on mainnet to be a viable test before a public sanctioned release. I find You choose misread what the text is

Re: [Lightning-dev] INTEROPERABILITY

2021-11-23 Thread ZmnSCPxj via Lightning-dev
Good morning x-raid, > what i can imagine is each team should provide boxes and channel liquidity as > stake on mainnet for tests before announce a public realise as to feel the > pain first hand instead of having several K´s of plebs confused and at worst > have funds in channelclosed etc.

Re: [Lightning-dev] INTEROPERABILITY

2021-11-23 Thread Christian Decker
ZmnSCPxj via Lightning-dev writes: > Are you proposing as well to provide the hardware and Internet > connection for these boxes? Having implemented and operated the lightning integration testing framework [1,2] in the past this is something near and dear to my heart. However I have since become

Re: [Lightning-dev] INTEROPERABILITY

2021-11-23 Thread x raid
what i can imagine is each team should provide boxes and channel liquidity as stake on mainnet for tests before announce a public realise as to feel the pain first hand instead of having several K´s of plebs confused and at worst have funds in channelclosed etc. but mostly for helping in smooth

Re: [Lightning-dev] INTEROPERABILITY

2021-11-23 Thread ZmnSCPxj via Lightning-dev
Good morning again x-raid, Are you proposing as well to provide the hardware and Internet connection for these boxes? I know of one person at least who runs a node that tracks the C-Lightning master (I think they do a nightly build?), and I run a node that I update every release of

Re: [Lightning-dev] INTEROPERABILITY

2021-11-23 Thread ZmnSCPxj via Lightning-dev
Good morning x-raid, > I propose a dialog of the below joint effort ... > > thanks > /xraid > > *** > A decentralised integration lab where CL Eclair LDK LND (++ ?) runs each the > latest release on "one box" rBOX and master.rc on "another box" rcBOX. I believe Electrum also has its own bespoke

[Lightning-dev] INTEROPERABILITY

2021-11-23 Thread x raid
I propose a dialog of the below joint effort ... thanks /xraid *** A decentralised integration lab where CL Eclair LDK LND (++ ?) runs each the latest release on "one box" rBOX and master.rc on "another box" rcBOX. The rBOX of each impl has a channels to the other impl rBOXés same setup goes