[Lightning-dev] Lightning over NFC

2018-04-05 Thread Igor Cota
Hello all, I feel that one of the biggest promises of lightning lies in it being used for everyday retail payments. I'd like to see a system that's: 1) instantaneous like the contactless bank cards of today 2) encodes a fancy HTML receipt in bolt11 for the payers future reference QR codes are a

Re: [Lightning-dev] Lightning over NFC

2018-04-05 Thread ZmnSCPxj via Lightning-dev
Good morning Igor, This is quite an interesting use-case for Lightning. However it seems to me that the payer will need a direct channel to the payee, or at least the payment terminal (of the payee...?). In addition the payer will need to somehow get blockchain information from the payee if

Re: [Lightning-dev] Lightning over NFC

2018-04-05 Thread Corné Plooy via Lightning-dev
If there are censorship concerns, you could opt for a set-up where payer has an authenticated connection to a trusted server, through the Internet connection provided by payee. The trusted server can, for instance, be a full Lightning node running at the payer's home. The payer then only has to

Re: [Lightning-dev] An Idea to Improve Connectivity of the Graph

2018-04-05 Thread ZmnSCPxj via Lightning-dev
Good morning Alejandro, There is no assumption involved, merely a large number of questions. In a retaliation construction, if a party misbehaves, the other party gets the entire amount they are working on together, as disincentive for any party to cheat. That works for the two-party case A

Re: [Lightning-dev] Lightning over NFC

2018-04-05 Thread ZmnSCPxj via Lightning-dev
Good morning Corne, My understanding, of the setup of Igor, is that, there is a Lightning-protocol connection between the mobile device and the base station/payment terminal device. Initiating a payment to anyone on the network requires that you have direct communication with whoever you have