Re: [PATCH] Web: Windows on the command-line in download.itexi

2010-01-02 Thread Graham Percival
Arigato gozaimasu, Sawada-san! I noticed a few small English details, but the quality is consistent with the rest of the web pages -- I've already asked my two new doc helpers to proofread the pages, so I'll add this to their burden. It'll be good practice for my kohai. :) Patch has been added a

[PATCH] Web: Windows on the command-line in download.itexi

2010-01-02 Thread Sawada , Yoshiki
Hi all, I put the description of "Windows on the command-line" of Documentation/web/download.itexi into: http://lilypond.web.fc2.com/patch/Windows-on-the-command-line.patch.gz My description will be correct in technical. However, I have no confidence in my English grammar. Please, check it out.

Re: Grand LilyPond Input Syntax Stabilization (GLISS) webpage

2010-01-02 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 1/2/10 6:44 PM, "Graham Percival" wrote: > On Sat, Jan 02, 2010 at 07:18:51PM +0100, Wilbert Berendsen wrote: >> I could imagine one other addition to the list of topics in Scope and >> Limitation: >> >> - the values that are used as arguments to common used overrides. Sometimes >> they ar

Re: G clef changes

2010-01-02 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 9:01 AM, Valentin Villenave wrote: > On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 6:49 PM, David Kastrup wrote: >> Don't load this as a picture into firefox on X11.  It is something like >> 1x1 pixels, and apparently firefox allocates a full-size >> display-depth pixmap for that, making

website issues and comment-discussion

2010-01-02 Thread Graham Percival
Guys, Please don't report bugs or try to discuss problems in the bloody comments of a texinfo file. I don't care if you do this in the source code (although I think it's a stupid way to communicate), but don't mess up my precious documentation. We cleaned up a lot of this in GDP, and we'll be do

Re: New website: what's the sense of '(main)'?

2010-01-02 Thread Patrick McCarty
On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 5:52 PM, Graham Percival wrote: > On Sat, Jan 02, 2010 at 02:26:06PM -0800, Patrick McCarty wrote: >> On 2010-01-02, John Mandereau wrote: >> > the new website, I don't understand why it's there: the topmost parent >> > section of the page currently viewed is already reachab

Re: Grand LilyPond Input Syntax Stabilization (GLISS) webpage

2010-01-02 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Jan 02, 2010 at 06:12:17PM -0800, Patrick McCarty wrote: > On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 5:30 PM, Graham Percival > wrote: > > Thanks, updated.  Is there a signup / archive page for that list? > > Totally not urgent, but when it's up, I'll add the link to the > > gliss webpage. > > You mean this

Re: New website: what's the sense of '(main)'?

2010-01-02 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 03:07:57AM +0100, John Mandereau wrote: > Le dimanche 03 janvier 2010 à 01:52 +, Graham Percival a écrit : > > When you're clicked through a few options in a chapter, you've > > been staring at the highlighted second-level TOC changing. It's > > not obvious how to get b

Re: Grand LilyPond Input Syntax Stabilization (GLISS) webpage

2010-01-02 Thread Patrick McCarty
On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 5:30 PM, Graham Percival wrote: > On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 02:09:07AM +0100, John Mandereau wrote: >> Le dimanche 03 janvier 2010 à 00:54 +, Graham Percival a écrit : >> > Oh, we did, but I forgot to update my notes.  Valentin, what was >> > the name again? >> >> I've bee

Re: Grand LilyPond Input Syntax Stabilization (GLISS) webpage

2010-01-02 Thread John Mandereau
Le dimanche 03 janvier 2010 à 01:30 +, Graham Percival a écrit : > Thanks, updated. Is there a signup / archive page for that list? http://lists.lilynet.net/syntax/ -- John Mandereau signature.asc Description: Ceci est une partie de message numériquement signée __

Re: New website: what's the sense of '(main)'?

2010-01-02 Thread John Mandereau
Le dimanche 03 janvier 2010 à 01:52 +, Graham Percival a écrit : > When you're clicked through a few options in a chapter, you've > been staring at the highlighted second-level TOC changing. It's > not obvious how to get back to the first page, if you want to see > the overview of pages in tha

Re: Autobeaming

2010-01-02 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Jan 02, 2010 at 09:37:55AM -0700, Carl Sorensen wrote: > > On 1/2/10 1:51 AM, "Graham Percival" wrote: > > > Sorry, I was thinking about \overrideBeamSettings, which has been > > around for a few months (a year?). You're quite right; there's no > > reason not to change \overrideTimeSign

Re: New website: what's the sense of '(main)'?

2010-01-02 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Jan 02, 2010 at 02:26:06PM -0800, Patrick McCarty wrote: > On 2010-01-02, John Mandereau wrote: > > the new website, I don't understand why it's there: the topmost parent > > section of the page currently viewed is already reachable from the top > > bar. Therefore, I'm for removing it; how

Re: Grand LilyPond Input Syntax Stabilization (GLISS) webpage

2010-01-02 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Jan 02, 2010 at 07:18:51PM +0100, Wilbert Berendsen wrote: > I could imagine one other addition to the list of topics in Scope and > Limitation: > > - the values that are used as arguments to common used overrides. Sometimes > they are a symbol (e.g. #'around), sometimes a predefined var

Re: Name clash on new website

2010-01-02 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Jan 02, 2010 at 02:06:31PM +0100, John Mandereau wrote: > After having noticed that > http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/web/examples > doesn't return the expected web page, Sigh. > I propose to rename source directory Documentation/web/examples > to Documentation/web/ly-examples

Re: Grand LilyPond Input Syntax Stabilization (GLISS) webpage

2010-01-02 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 02:09:07AM +0100, John Mandereau wrote: > Le dimanche 03 janvier 2010 à 00:54 +, Graham Percival a écrit : > > Oh, we did, but I forgot to update my notes. Valentin, what was > > the name again? > > I've been added on a list named syn...@lilynet.net around the same tim

Re: Grand LilyPond Input Syntax Stabilization (GLISS) webpage

2010-01-02 Thread John Mandereau
Le dimanche 03 janvier 2010 à 00:54 +, Graham Percival a écrit : > Oh, we did, but I forgot to update my notes. Valentin, what was > the name again? I've been added on a list named syn...@lilynet.net around the same time you first announced GLISS. Best, John signature.asc Description: Ceci

Re: Grand LilyPond Input Syntax Stabilization (GLISS) webpage

2010-01-02 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 01:24:00AM +0100, John Mandereau wrote: > Le samedi 02 janvier 2010 à 06:47 +, Graham Percival a écrit : > > It's up, such as it is: > > http://lilypond.org/~graham/gliss/ > > Excellent. I only wonder why you haven't already decided on the mailing > list name on li

Re: Grand LilyPond Input Syntax Stabilization (GLISS) webpage

2010-01-02 Thread John Mandereau
Le samedi 02 janvier 2010 à 06:47 +, Graham Percival a écrit : > Grand LilyPond Input Syntax Stabilization (GLISS) > > It's up, such as it is: > http://lilypond.org/~graham/gliss/ Excellent. I only wonder why you haven't already decided on the mailing list name on lilynet.net. Best, Joh

Re: Doc building in ubuntu 9.10

2010-01-02 Thread Jonathan Kulp
2010/1/2 John Mandereau > Le samedi 02 janvier 2010 à 22:57 +0100, Francisco Vila a écrit : > > Hello, for the new year I have upgraded my Ubuntu system to 9.10 > > Karmic and I have been able to compile the lilypond binary and docs > > after many attempts and permutations. Finally it seems the

Re: Grand LilyPond Input Syntax Stabilization (GLISS) webpage

2010-01-02 Thread Patrick McCarty
On 2010-01-02, Graham Percival wrote: > Grand LilyPond Input Syntax Stabilization (GLISS) > > It's up, such as it is: > http://lilypond.org/~graham/gliss/ > > If you remember the email from a few months ago, nothing much has > changed (I've rephrased a few things based on the comments). If y

Re: New website: what's the sense of '(main)'?

2010-01-02 Thread Patrick McCarty
On 2010-01-02, John Mandereau wrote: > Hello, > > As I'm wondering about i18n the string "(main)" in the navigation bar of > the new website, I don't understand why it's there: the topmost parent > section of the page currently viewed is already reachable from the top > bar. Therefore, I'm for re

Re: Building LilyPond outside the source tree

2010-01-02 Thread Harmath Dénes
On 2010.01.02., at 22:28, John Mandereau wrote: >> I just don't have to do distclean. > > I disagree with this. If you don't distclean or doc-clean in the source > tree, you'll probably get weird build errors. I mean, if I run ./autogen.sh --noconfigure first after cloning the repo, that is fin

New website: what's the sense of '(main)'?

2010-01-02 Thread John Mandereau
Hello, As I'm wondering about i18n the string "(main)" in the navigation bar of the new website, I don't understand why it's there: the topmost parent section of the page currently viewed is already reachable from the top bar. Therefore, I'm for removing it; however, if somebody gives a good reas

Re: Doc building in ubuntu 9.10

2010-01-02 Thread John Mandereau
Le samedi 02 janvier 2010 à 22:57 +0100, Francisco Vila a écrit : > Hello, for the new year I have upgraded my Ubuntu system to 9.10 > Karmic and I have been able to compile the lilypond binary and docs > after many attempts and permutations. Finally it seems the main issue > was texi2html. The p

Doc building in ubuntu 9.10

2010-01-02 Thread Francisco Vila
Hello, for the new year I have upgraded my Ubuntu system to 9.10 Karmic and I have been able to compile the lilypond binary and docs after many attempts and permutations. Finally it seems the main issue was texi2html. The packaged version on my distribution is old, 1.78. Then I compiled 1.83 from

Re: Building LilyPond outside the source tree

2010-01-02 Thread John Mandereau
Le samedi 02 janvier 2010 à 21:34 +0100, Harmath Dénes a écrit : > The result is the same, Gosh, I should have noticed the actual error earlier, see below. > I just don't have to do distclean. I disagree with this. If you don't distclean or doc-clean in the source tree, you'll probably get we

Re: Building LilyPond outside the source tree

2010-01-02 Thread Harmath Dénes
On 2010.01.02., at 21:26, John Mandereau wrote: > Le samedi 02 janvier 2010 à 21:20 +0100, Harmath Dénes a écrit : >>> /autogen.sh --noconfigure >> >> No success. This results in: >> >> thsoft-macbook:lily-build thsoft$ >> /Users/thsoft/Development/lilypond-translation/autogen.sh --noconfigure

Re: Building LilyPond outside the source tree

2010-01-02 Thread John Mandereau
Le samedi 02 janvier 2010 à 21:20 +0100, Harmath Dénes a écrit : > > /autogen.sh --noconfigure > > No success. This results in: > > thsoft-macbook:lily-build thsoft$ > /Users/thsoft/Development/lilypond-translation/autogen.sh --noconfigure > stepmake/aclocal.m4 is newer. Copying file. > cp: ste

Re: Building LilyPond outside the source tree

2010-01-02 Thread Harmath Dénes
On 2010.01.02., at 20:58, John Mandereau wrote: > Le samedi 02 janvier 2010 à 20:12 +0100, Harmath Dénes a écrit : >> make -C distclean >> /configure --srcdir= > > The --srcdir flag is unnecessary, and between these two commands you > should do > > /autogen.sh --noconfigure No success. This re

Re: input/regression/tuplet-text-*.ly wrong version

2010-01-02 Thread Patrick McCarty
On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 2:51 AM, Graham Percival wrote: > On Sat, Jan 02, 2010 at 02:04:18AM -0800, Patrick McCarty wrote: >> On 2010-01-02, James Bailey wrote: >> > I didn't find a history option, but I did find a log option, and it >> > has 2009/03/07 for all of them. >> >> These were added betwe

Re: Building LilyPond outside the source tree

2010-01-02 Thread John Mandereau
Le samedi 02 janvier 2010 à 20:12 +0100, Harmath Dénes a écrit : > make -C distclean > /configure --srcdir= The --srcdir flag is unnecessary, and between these two commands you should do /autogen.sh --noconfigure This should be explained in the CG; if not, could somebody fix this? Best, John

Building LilyPond outside the source tree

2010-01-02 Thread Harmath Dénes
Hi all, I need to build LilyPond outside the source tree. I check out LilyPond: mkdir lilypond; cd lilypond git init git remote add -f -t master -m master origin git://git.sv.gnu.org/lilypond.git/ git checkout -b master origin/master Creating configure: ./autogen.sh Then, according to CG: cd

Re: Grand LilyPond Input Syntax Stabilization (GLISS) webpage

2010-01-02 Thread Wilbert Berendsen
Op zaterdag 02 januari 2010 schreef Trevor: > Looks promising. Nice overview of the issues. > I'll be happy to be part of the discussions when > they start. Same for me! I really love LilyPond (both the program and the project), and stabilizing the syntax will make it more stable and professio

Re: Autobeaming

2010-01-02 Thread David Kastrup
Carl Sorensen writes: > I have received unambiguous guidance from Han-Wen that I should *not* > add a general capability for doing override/revert for context > properties, even though that's what you want to be able to do. > > I've asked for suggestions for a music function name that would > acc

Re: New articulation character for half-open hi-hats?

2010-01-02 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> Is there a chance that you would consider this character for >> inclusion in LilyPond 2.13? > > If Werner's OK with that, I'll open a feature request on the > tracker. Please go ahead. Werner ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.

Re: Autobeaming

2010-01-02 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 1/2/10 3:04 AM, "David Kastrup" wrote: > Carl Sorensen writes: > >> On 1/1/10 10:27 AM, "David Kastrup" wrote: >> >>> Carl Sorensen writes: >>> In my defense, it's because timeSignatureSettings is a special case of a context property that wants \override and \revert behavior

Re: Autobeaming

2010-01-02 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 1/2/10 1:51 AM, "Graham Percival" wrote: > On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 8:34 AM, David Kastrup wrote: >> Graham Percival writes: >> only with \overrideTimeSignatureSettings,  but not with \override timeSignatureSettings. >>> >>> Yes, it is.  Fixing this has been planned for a year.

Re: [Fwd: [translations] Language negotiation on lilypond.org]

2010-01-02 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Graham Percival wrote: > It has whatever priority people give it.  Given that nobody has > sent a patch, I can only assume that nobody cares about this. Oops, I should clarify: nobody's sent a patch, **or even indicated a willingness to work on it**. If somebody s

Re: [Fwd: [translations] Language negotiation on lilypond.org]

2010-01-02 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Jan 02, 2010 at 02:09:19PM +0100, John Mandereau wrote: > Le samedi 02 janvier 2010 à 12:49 +, Graham Percival a écrit : > > Yes, this was already added to the tracker in Oct: > > http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=844 > > As the old documentation index has been scraped

Re: [Fwd: [translations] Language negotiation on lilypond.org]

2010-01-02 Thread John Mandereau
Le samedi 02 janvier 2010 à 12:49 +, Graham Percival a écrit : > Yes, this was already added to the tracker in Oct: > http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=844 As the old documentation index has been scraped preamturely, the new website is the only way to access manuals, so could

Name clash on new website

2010-01-02 Thread John Mandereau
Hi guys, After having noticed that http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/web/examples doesn't return the expected web page, I propose to rename source directory Documentation/web/examples to Documentation/web/ly-examples, in order to fix this name clash. This is the same kind of issue that

Re: G clef changes

2010-01-02 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Valentin Villenave wrote: > Carl, Marc, how would that affect the regtests-checking process? When > applying this patch all outputted PNGs will look different than > before, so isn't there a risk that some actual regressions go > unnoticed? I can handle it. If it

Re: [Fwd: [translations] Language negotiation on lilypond.org]

2010-01-02 Thread Graham Percival
Yes, this was already added to the tracker in Oct: http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=844 Cheers, - Graham On Sat, Jan 02, 2010 at 01:35:53PM +0100, John Mandereau wrote: > Message transféré > De: Harmath Dénes > À: translati...@lilynet.net > Sujet: [translation

[Fwd: [translations] Language negotiation on lilypond.org]

2010-01-02 Thread John Mandereau
Message transféré De: Harmath Dénes À: translati...@lilynet.net Sujet: [translations] Language negotiation on lilypond.org Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 13:32:28 +0100 Hi all, I recently noticed that http://lilypond.org/doc/latest redirects to http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentati

Re: New articulation character for half-open hi-hats?

2010-01-02 Thread Valentin Villenave
On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Carsten Steger wrote: > Is there a chance that you would consider this character for inclusion > in LilyPond 2.13?  If so, I would start working on optimizing the > design of the character and also start working on modifying LilyPond > to enable this character to be

Re: G clef changes

2010-01-02 Thread David Kastrup
Valentin Villenave writes: > On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 6:49 PM, David Kastrup wrote: >> Don't load this as a picture into firefox on X11.  It is something like >> 1x1 pixels, and apparently firefox allocates a full-size >> display-depth pixmap for that, making the server swallow more than 1

Re: [PATCH] Nested properties in the \paper block

2010-01-02 Thread Nicolas Sceaux
Le 2 janv. 2010 à 11:57, Joe Neeman a écrit : > Any objections/comments? If not, I'll push in the next few days. Please do, it looks good and is indeed more convenient. > > Cheers, > Joe > > On Tue, 2009-12-22 at 21:52 -0800, Joe Neeman wrote: >> http://codereview.appspot.com/182042/show >> >

Re: Grand LilyPond Input Syntax Stabilization (GLISS) webpage

2010-01-02 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Saturday, January 02, 2010 6:47 AM Grand LilyPond Input Syntax Stabilization (GLISS) It's up, such as it is: http://lilypond.org/~graham/gliss/ Looks promising. Nice overview of the issues. I'll be happy to be part of the discussions when they start. Trevor

Re: G clef changes

2010-01-02 Thread Valentin Villenave
On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 6:49 PM, David Kastrup wrote: > Don't load this as a picture into firefox on X11.  It is something like > 1x1 pixels, and apparently firefox allocates a full-size > display-depth pixmap for that, making the server swallow more than 1.2G > of memory. > I managed to ki

Re: [PATCH] Nested properties in the \paper block

2010-01-02 Thread Joe Neeman
Any objections/comments? If not, I'll push in the next few days. Cheers, Joe On Tue, 2009-12-22 at 21:52 -0800, Joe Neeman wrote: > http://codereview.appspot.com/182042/show > > This patch implements nested property setting for \paper block (and > \header block, etc) variables, similar to how \o

Re: Grand LilyPond Input Syntax Stabilization (GLISS) webpage

2010-01-02 Thread Valentin Villenave
On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 7:47 AM, Graham Percival wrote: >    http://lilypond.org/~graham/gliss/ Neat! Looks promising; I hope soon I'll have some time to really give these questions a proper thought. Thanks for going through with this. Cheers, Valentin _

Re: input/regression/tuplet-text-*.ly wrong version

2010-01-02 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Jan 02, 2010 at 02:04:18AM -0800, Patrick McCarty wrote: > On 2010-01-02, James Bailey wrote: > > I didn't find a history option, but I did find a log option, and it > > has 2009/03/07 for all of them. > > These were added between 2.13.0 and 2.13.1, so 2.13.1 would be the > correct version

Re: input/regression/tuplet-text-*.ly wrong version

2010-01-02 Thread Patrick McCarty
On 2010-01-02, James Bailey wrote: > > On 02.01.2010, at 00:20, Graham Percival wrote: > > >On Fri, Jan 01, 2010 at 03:27:48PM +0100, James Bailey wrote: > >>The regression tests for input/regression/tuplet-text*.ly have a > >>version > >>statement of 2.12.3, although they don't compile with 2.12

Re: Autobeaming

2010-01-02 Thread David Kastrup
Carl Sorensen writes: > On 1/1/10 10:27 AM, "David Kastrup" wrote: > >> Carl Sorensen writes: >> >>> In my defense, it's because timeSignatureSettings is a special case >>> of a context property that wants \override and \revert behavior. >> >> Which just goes to show that people associate the

Re: input/regression/tuplet-text-*.ly wrong version

2010-01-02 Thread James Bailey
On 02.01.2010, at 00:20, Graham Percival wrote: On Fri, Jan 01, 2010 at 03:27:48PM +0100, James Bailey wrote: The regression tests for input/regression/tuplet-text*.ly have a version statement of 2.12.3, although they don't compile with 2.12.3, and these tests were not included in 2.12.3.

[PATCH] GUB: Fix #885

2010-01-02 Thread Patrick McCarty
Hello, I think this patch fixes Issue 885, even though I can't test it at the moment. See http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=885 Thanks, Patrick 0001-lilypond-sharhead-don-t-use-a-subshell-when-creating.patch Description: Binary data ___

Re: Autobeaming

2010-01-02 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 8:34 AM, David Kastrup wrote: > Graham Percival writes: > >>> only with \overrideTimeSignatureSettings,  but not with >>> \override timeSignatureSettings. >> >> Yes, it is.  Fixing this has been planned for a year. >> >> Why not "just do it" now?  Well, we don't have a defi

Re: Autobeaming

2010-01-02 Thread David Kastrup
Reinhold Kainhofer writes: > Am Samstag, 2. Januar 2010 00:35:16 schrieb Carl Sorensen: >> On 1/1/10 10:27 AM, "David Kastrup" wrote: >> > Carl Sorensen writes: >> >> OK, point taken. I'll come up with a different name for the music >> >> function. Do you have any suggestions? >> >> >> >> How

Re: Autobeaming

2010-01-02 Thread David Kastrup
Graham Percival writes: > On Fri, Jan 01, 2010 at 02:13:51PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: >> "Trevor Daniels" writes: >> >> > For varying time signatures changes could still >> > be made via \overrideTimeSignatureSettings. >> >> I consider it a grave user interface mistake to have some things w