Re: Did VerticalAxisGroup default-staff-staff-spacing stop respecting padding in 2.17.10?

2013-02-08 Thread David Kastrup
"m...@mikesolomon.org" writes: > - if (b.end_ > b.start_ + EPS) > + if (b.end_ >= b.start_) That should be rather "if (b.end_ > b.start_)" to be equivalent. However, you are right that for "proper" emptiness, this change would seem correct. We had some changes recently regarding the represent

Re: function to get moment as staff-spaces

2013-02-08 Thread Keith OHara
Kieren MacMillan sympatico.ca> writes: > There are times I would like to offset something by a duration > (e.g., a quarter note) without using spacers > — for example, I have a ChordName that collides with a markup, > and I want the ChordName to move > horizontally to the right (not vertically**

Re: Issue 754: don't transpose generic property-setting music commands (issue 7303057)

2013-02-08 Thread Keith OHara
On Fri, 08 Feb 2013 01:20:59 -0800, wrote: On 2013/02/08 08:40:29, dak wrote: On 2013/02/08 04:46:27, Keith wrote: > Yesterday's patch was better. I beg to differ. It did not address instrument definitions, or manual settings Well, we had a nice plane for \instrumentSwitch, and I did no

Re: MetronomeMark collision chaos

2013-02-08 Thread Keith OHara
Kieren MacMillan sympatico.ca> writes: > Almost certainly my #1 frustration with Lily right now is the fact that > MetronomeMark collisions resolve so poorly. > Answering cross-posts correctly seems to be beyond my inteweb skill-set.

MetronomeMark collision chaos

2013-02-08 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hello all! Almost certainly my #1 frustration with Lily right now is the fact that MetronomeMark collisions resolve so poorly. Why is it so difficult to get them to push remaining MMs to the right (stretching the music underneath to accomodate, if necessary)? Each score I engrave — and particu

Re: Did VerticalAxisGroup default-staff-staff-spacing stop respecting padding in 2.17.10?

2013-02-08 Thread m...@mikesolomon.org
On 8 févr. 2013, at 18:58, m...@mikesolomon.org wrote: > On 8 févr. 2013, at 18:24, David Kastrup wrote: > >> "m...@mikesolomon.org" writes: >> >>> On 8 févr. 2013, at 16:57, Xavier Scheuer wrote: >>> On 8 February 2013 09:27, m...@mikesolomon.org wrote: > > (snip)

Re: Did VerticalAxisGroup default-staff-staff-spacing stop respecting padding in 2.17.10?

2013-02-08 Thread m...@mikesolomon.org
On 8 févr. 2013, at 18:24, David Kastrup wrote: > "m...@mikesolomon.org" writes: > >> On 8 févr. 2013, at 16:57, Xavier Scheuer wrote: >> >>> On 8 February 2013 09:27, m...@mikesolomon.org wrote: (snip) It's gonna take me some time to have a look at it - I'll do my best

Re: Did VerticalAxisGroup default-staff-staff-spacing stop respecting padding in 2.17.10?

2013-02-08 Thread David Kastrup
"m...@mikesolomon.org" writes: > On 8 févr. 2013, at 16:57, Xavier Scheuer wrote: > >> On 8 February 2013 09:27, m...@mikesolomon.org wrote: >>> >>> (snip) >>> >>> It's gonna take me some time to have a look at it - I'll do my best >>> to check it out on Sunday. >> >> Is this related to the

Re: Did VerticalAxisGroup default-staff-staff-spacing stop respecting padding in 2.17.10?

2013-02-08 Thread m...@mikesolomon.org
On 8 févr. 2013, at 16:57, Xavier Scheuer wrote: > On 8 February 2013 09:27, m...@mikesolomon.org wrote: >> >> (snip) >> >> It's gonna take me some time to have a look at it - I'll do my best to check >> it out on Sunday. > > Is this related to the not-yet-added-to-the-tracker "chord name c

Re: Did VerticalAxisGroup default-staff-staff-spacing stop respecting padding in 2.17.10?

2013-02-08 Thread Xavier Scheuer
On 8 February 2013 09:27, m...@mikesolomon.org wrote: > > (snip) > > It's gonna take me some time to have a look at it - I'll do my best to check > it out on Sunday. Is this related to the not-yet-added-to-the-tracker "chord name collide with staff" issue? http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-l

Re: Did VerticalAxisGroup default-staff-staff-spacing stop respecting padding in 2.17.10?

2013-02-08 Thread Trevor Bača
On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 9:25 AM, David Kastrup wrote: > Trevor Bača writes: > > > \override VerticalAxisGroup #'staff-staff-spacing = > > #'((basic-distance . 0) (minimum-distance . 10) (padding . 6) > > (stretchability . 0)) > > > > ... works again with the new settings so that I'm once again ab

Re: Did VerticalAxisGroup default-staff-staff-spacing stop respecting padding in 2.17.10?

2013-02-08 Thread David Kastrup
Trevor Bača writes: > \override VerticalAxisGroup #'staff-staff-spacing = > #'((basic-distance . 0) (minimum-distance . 10) (padding . 6) > (stretchability . 0)) > > ... works again with the new settings so that I'm once again able to > vertically position the time signature context exactly where

Re: Did VerticalAxisGroup default-staff-staff-spacing stop respecting padding in 2.17.10?

2013-02-08 Thread Trevor Bača
On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 3:27 AM, m...@mikesolomon.org wrote: > > On 8 févr. 2013, at 09:16, David Kastrup wrote: > > > "m...@mikesolomon.org" writes: > > > >> On 8 févr. 2013, at 08:55, David Kastrup wrote: > >> > >>> "Keith OHara" writes: > >>> > Probably you should adjust your solution,

Re: Did VerticalAxisGroup default-staff-staff-spacing stop respecting padding in 2.17.10?

2013-02-08 Thread Trevor Bača
On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 2:45 AM, Keith OHara wrote: > On Thu, 07 Feb 2013 20:56:06 -0800, Trevor Bača > wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Keith OHara wrote: >> >> Trevor Bača gmail.com> writes: >>> >>> > Did VerticalAxisGroup's default-staff-staff-spacing property stop >>> > respecti

Re: BUG? simultaneous Music and Lyrics

2013-02-08 Thread Jan-Peter Voigt
I think this may be http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2010> \lyricsto may turn into a voice-mangling zombie when both parents die at the same time thanks Please reduce this to a tiny example. http://www.lilypond.org/website/tiny-examples.html -- Phil Holmes OK? Best, Jan

Re: BUG? simultaneous Music and Lyrics

2013-02-08 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Jan-Peter Voigt" To: "Phil Holmes" Cc: Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 9:47 AM Subject: Re: BUG? simultaneous Music and Lyrics I think this may be http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2010> \lyricsto may turn into a voice-mangling zombie wh

Re: BUG? simultaneous Music and Lyrics

2013-02-08 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Jan-Peter Voigt" To: Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 9:16 AM Subject: BUG? simultaneous Music and Lyrics Hello list, while trying to create a cueDuringWithLyrics command, I stumbled over an issue: To make the mentioned command, I create SimultaneousMusi

Re: Did VerticalAxisGroup default-staff-staff-spacing stop respecting padding in 2.17.10?

2013-02-08 Thread David Kastrup
"m...@mikesolomon.org" writes: > On 8 févr. 2013, at 08:55, David Kastrup wrote: > >> "Keith OHara" writes: >> >>> Probably you should adjust your solution, because Mike's next patch >>> completely removes lines of music that have only zero-size extents. >> >> Then maybe Mike's next patch sho

Re: BUG? simultaneous Music and Lyrics

2013-02-08 Thread David Kastrup
Jan-Peter Voigt writes: > Hello list, > > while trying to create a cueDuringWithLyrics command, I stumbled over > an issue: > To make the mentioned command, I create SimultaneousMusic containing > 1. the music of the main voice (usually rests) > 2. a named CueVoice containing quoteDuring > 3. a L

Re: Issue 754: don't transpose generic property-setting music commands (issue 7303057)

2013-02-08 Thread dak
On 2013/02/08 08:40:29, dak wrote: On 2013/02/08 04:46:27, Keith wrote: > Yesterday's patch was better. I beg to differ. It did not address instrument definitions, or manual settings Concretely: can you show an example of not-just-academical LilyPond source that would be change to the worse

BUG? simultaneous Music and Lyrics

2013-02-08 Thread Jan-Peter Voigt
Hello list, while trying to create a cueDuringWithLyrics command, I stumbled over an issue: To make the mentioned command, I create SimultaneousMusic containing 1. the music of the main voice (usually rests) 2. a named CueVoice containing quoteDuring 3. a Lyrics context, associated to the CueVo

Re: Issue 754: don't transpose generic property-setting music commands (issue 7303057)

2013-02-08 Thread dak
On 2013/02/08 04:46:27, Keith wrote: Yesterday's patch was better. I beg to differ. It did not address instrument definitions, or manual settings of instrumentTransposition. The 'untransposable property is more closely related to the source of the events (\transposition or \instrumentSwitc

Re: Did VerticalAxisGroup default-staff-staff-spacing stop respecting padding in 2.17.10?

2013-02-08 Thread m...@mikesolomon.org
On 8 févr. 2013, at 09:16, David Kastrup wrote: > "m...@mikesolomon.org" writes: > >> On 8 févr. 2013, at 08:55, David Kastrup wrote: >> >>> "Keith OHara" writes: >>> Probably you should adjust your solution, because Mike's next patch completely removes lines of music that have o

Re: Did VerticalAxisGroup default-staff-staff-spacing stop respecting padding in 2.17.10?

2013-02-08 Thread David Kastrup
"m...@mikesolomon.org" writes: > On 8 févr. 2013, at 08:45, "Keith OHara" wrote: > >> Probably you should adjust your solution, because Mike's next patch >> completely removes lines of music that have only zero-size extents. > > It removes vertical axis groups with empty skylines. I assume "zer

Re: Did VerticalAxisGroup default-staff-staff-spacing stop respecting padding in 2.17.10?

2013-02-08 Thread m...@mikesolomon.org
On 8 févr. 2013, at 08:45, "Keith OHara" wrote: > On Thu, 07 Feb 2013 20:56:06 -0800, Trevor Bača wrote: > >> On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Keith OHara wrote: >> >>> Trevor Bača gmail.com> writes: >>> >>> > Did VerticalAxisGroup's default-staff-staff-spacing property stop >>> > respecting

Re: Did VerticalAxisGroup default-staff-staff-spacing stop respecting padding in 2.17.10?

2013-02-08 Thread m...@mikesolomon.org
On 8 févr. 2013, at 08:55, David Kastrup wrote: > "Keith OHara" writes: > >> Probably you should adjust your solution, because Mike's next patch >> completely removes lines of music that have only zero-size extents. > > Then maybe Mike's next patch should get reverted or not committed since >