Re: Mensural style

2009-01-04 Thread Trevor Daniels
Francisco Vila wrote Monday, December 29, 2008 10:49 AM 2008/12/29 Stefan Waler : BTW, the term "accidental style" appears twice in the documentation with a completely different meaning: - in 1.1.3, meaning the way how to display and reset accidentals In the detailed explanation they are n

Re: LM master?

2009-01-04 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Sunday, January 04, 2009 10:10 AM On Sun, Jan 04, 2009 at 10:00:58AM -, Trevor Daniels wrote: Graham, you wrote Saturday, January 03, 2009 11:19 PM Oh, one idea: since the templates are available in the Snippet List, and since we assume that users have all pdfs

Re: Learning Manual TOC missing subsubsubsections

2009-01-03 Thread Trevor Daniels
Carl D. Sorensen wrote Friday, January 02, 2009 7:56 PM I'd be in favor of a policy that says the equivalent of the following: "Each chapter has a defined section structure. The structure consists of chapter, section, and subsection. If subsubsections are desired, they should be unnumbered,

Re: bugfix patch reviewing

2009-01-03 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Saturday, January 03, 2009 2:40 AM How much oversight should the Frog patches receive? These patches have been reviewed by Carl. They compile cleanly, adhere to our code standards (to the extent that Carl understands them), and appear to fix the bug. I see three proposa

Re: Learning Manual TOC missing subsubsubsections

2009-01-03 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival Saturday, January 03, 2009 4:01 AM On Fri, Jan 02, 2009 at 12:56:18PM -0700, Carl D. Sorensen wrote: On 1/2/09 12:30 PM, "Trevor Daniels" wrote: > I agree; that's why it is important to set out the standards > clearly and to ensure they are consisten

Re: Reorganization of Docs

2009-01-02 Thread Trevor Daniels
ssage - From: "Carl D. Sorensen" To: "Trevor Daniels" ; "Graham Percival" Cc: "lily-devel" Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 1:41 PM Subject: Re: Reorganization of Docs Trevor wrote: I agree with Graham. \displayLilyMusic has nothing to do with the

Re: Learning Manual TOC missing subsubsubsections

2009-01-02 Thread Trevor Daniels
Carl D. Sorensen wrote Friday, January 02, 2009 1:44 PM On 1/2/09 2:32 AM, "Trevor Daniels" wrote: Carl D. Sorensen wrote Thursday, January 01, 2009 10:52 PM On 1/1/09 11:25 AM, "Trevor Daniels" wrote: I think we already have clear standards for revision under

Re: Learning Manual TOC missing subsubsubsections

2009-01-02 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Thursday, January 01, 2009 9:26 PM Much of the LM was written before this policy was instated, so other forms tend to be used there, like @subsubheading and others which just use a @bo...@italic{..} one line paragraph, and as the LM hasn't yet been revised these non-stand

Re: Learning Manual TOC missing subsubsubsections

2009-01-02 Thread Trevor Daniels
Carl D. Sorensen wrote Thursday, January 01, 2009 10:52 PM On 1/1/09 11:25 AM, "Trevor Daniels" wrote: Graham During GDP we experimented with various headings for the levels below @subsection and I thought we had standardised on @unnumberedsubsubsec with @node and a menu entry.

Re: Reorganization of Docs

2009-01-02 Thread Trevor Daniels
Carl I agree with Graham. \displayLilyMusic has nothing to do with the internal representation of music. It simply shows the effect of \transpose. Are you thinking of \displayMusic maybe, which is already in NR 6? Trevor Carl D. Sorensen wrote Friday, January 02, 2009 6:14 AM On 1/1/09 9:5

Re: Learning Manual TOC missing subsubsubsections

2009-01-01 Thread Trevor Daniels
Message - From: "Graham Percival" To: "Trevor Daniels" Cc: "Reinhold Kainhofer" ; Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 1:04 AM Subject: Re: Learning Manual TOC missing subsubsubsections On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 11:45:38AM -, Trevor Daniels wrote: Graham Perciva

Re: Weird doc output with @rlearning.

2009-01-01 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival Thursday, January 01, 2009 12:19 AM On Thu, Jan 01, 2009 at 09:23:24AM +1100, Joe Neeman wrote: Towards the bottom of the page, we have the sentences "(The location of this directory is installation-dependent - see of information Other sources of information)." and "Alternati

Re: Lilypond on windows

2008-12-29 Thread Trevor Daniels
Stefan Waler wrote Monday, December 29, 2008 12:31 PM I'm just wondering what the actual requirements are for running lilypond with mingw on windows platforms. Is there any list for that? AFAIK no one has seriously tried to compile LP under mingw on a Windows platform. It may be possible, b

Re: Learning Manual TOC missing subsubsubsections

2008-12-29 Thread Trevor Daniels
Reinhold Kainhofer wrote Monday, December 29, 2008 12:47 AM Am Montag, 29. Dezember 2008 01:32:17 schrieb Bertalan Fodor: Reinhold Kainhofer írta: > Am Montag, 29. Dezember 2008 01:01:14 schrieb Bertalan Fodor: >> The subsubsubsections are not present in LM toc. > > Which subsubsubsections are

Re: Learning Manual TOC missing subsubsubsections

2008-12-29 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Monday, December 29, 2008 12:31 AM On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 01:25:37AM +0100, Reinhold Kainhofer wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Montag, 29. Dezember 2008 01:01:14 schrieb Bertalan Fodor: > The subsubsubsections are not present in LM toc. Which

Mensural style

2008-12-28 Thread Trevor Daniels
At present the MensuralVoice context sets the NoteHead style to 'petrucci, but does not set the style for rests. I know nothing of ancient music, but it seems to me that rests should be set to 'mensural style? Advice please, from anyone who understands ancient music. Trevor

Re: GOP: new website

2008-12-27 Thread Trevor Daniels
John Mandereau wrote Friday, December 26, 2008 8:18 PM Le jeudi 25 décembre 2008 à 21:03 -0800, Graham Percival a écrit : I currently see four options: 1) Build the website with texinfo and texi2html. With sufficient stylesheets and texi2html hacking, I think this is /possible/, but I don'

Re: Are tick barlines too thin?

2008-12-24 Thread Trevor Daniels
Neil Puttock wrote Wednesday, December 24, 2008 3:36 PM Should tick barlines be the same thickness as nornal barlines? Currently they get their width from line-thickness which makes them slightly lighter; it also makes it impossible to tweak their appearance without altering the look of the who

Re: Post-2.12 release plans

2008-12-22 Thread Trevor Daniels
Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote Monday, December 22, 2008 6:22 PM On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 10:58 AM, Graham Percival wrote: Does this mean you do not want to make any difference between odd and even versions? No. .13 would be the "devel" version, where syntax changes are introduced, and any major

Re: beam settings

2008-12-22 Thread Trevor Daniels
Reinhold Kainhofer wrote Monday, December 22, 2008 4:22 PM Am Montag, 22. Dezember 2008 schrieb Trevor Daniels: Reinhold's short example works here, but I see from your attached jpg that you've incorporated it in some more extensive code. He sent me the whole file and the cu

Re: Post-2.12 release plans

2008-12-22 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Monday, December 22, 2008 5:40 AM Once 2.12 is out and we've succeeded in setting up GUB3 on kainhofer, I'll become the Release Manager. I have two ideas on how to change things: 1) Move to a linux kernel type of releases: instead of having separate devel and stable br

Re: \chordmode related deficiencys in the command index (Appendix G)

2008-12-18 Thread Trevor Daniels
Danalute wrote Tuesday, December 16, 2008 10:26 PM Appendix G has entries for /: and /+ , used in \chordmode { } There is no entry for \chordmode There is no entry for the symbols '<' and '>' discussion of the < notelist> convention (an alternate way to enter chords in a note stream)

Re: spaces must be inserted around property commands?

2008-12-15 Thread Trevor Daniels
Mark Polesky wrote Monday, December 15, 2008 8:02 AM NR 2.1.2 "Entering lyrics: Lyrics explained" states... Similarly, a period which follows an alphabetic sequence is included in the resulting string. As a consequence, spaces must be inserted around property commands: do not write \ov

Re: [PATCH] Straight flags finished

2008-12-14 Thread Trevor Daniels
Reinhold, you wrote Sunday, December 14, 2008 1:46 PM Where in the docs do the flag styles belong? There is a selected snippet in 1.2.4 Beams entitled "Flat flags and beam nibs" which shows flags derived from beamlets. A new snippet showing straight flags in the two built-in styles could be

Re: Lilypond problems

2008-12-13 Thread Trevor Daniels
Reinhold Kainhofer wrote Saturday, December 13, 2008 2:14 AM Am Samstag, 13. Dezember 2008 02:48:14 schrieb dem...@suffolk.lib.ny.us: On Fri, Dec 12, 2008, Reinhold Kainhofer said: > Should we change \bar "." to create a single > thick barline for reasons of consistency and instead add a new

Re: (attn doc team) Re: Diatonic notation system

2008-12-11 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Breed wrote Thursday, December 11, 2008 1:01 AM I can demonstrate the bug with that file though. Here's an example: \version "2.11.65" \include "arabic.ly" melody = \relative { \key re \bayati do re mi fa sol la si do } \score { \new Staff \melody \layout { } \midi { } } It fa

Re: (attn doc team) Re: Diatonic notation system

2008-12-10 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Wednesday, December 10, 2008 2:04 PM On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 08:01:08PM +0800, Graham Breed wrote: I've checked the documentation for key signatures and see no indication that \key b \bayati could possible work though. Say what? http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentati

Re: Translation string problem

2008-12-09 Thread Trevor Daniels
Francisco Vila wrote Tuesday, December 09, 2008 10:08 AM 2008/12/8 Jean-Charles Malahieude <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I think a warning would be useful, even for the English users, mentioning that this use of the autochange command *needs* the staves to be called "up" and "down". I agree. Ther

Re: duplicate paragraphs in 2.11 docs

2008-12-04 Thread Trevor Daniels
Thanks Mark. You're right to point out the duplication, but when I looked at this the section really needs quite an extensive overhaul. So I've placed it on the TODO list for later, as other things take precedence at the moment. Trevor - Original Message - From: "Mark Polesky" <[EM

Re: order of alterations in Staff.keySignature for general keysignatures

2008-11-30 Thread Trevor Daniels
Reinhold Kainhofer wrote Sunday, November 30, 2008 3:02 PM The documentation of the non-standard key signature feature (in the selected snippets section of the Key Signatures section) gives an example of such a key: http://kainhofer.com/~lilypond/Documentation/user/lilypond/Displaying- pitche

Re: holdups for 2.12

2008-11-29 Thread Trevor Daniels
Neil Puttock wrote Saturday, November 29, 2008 3:15 PM 2008/11/29 Trevor Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: The only thing not mentioned so far is, did Rune's latest patches ever get applied? I don't think they did. Was there a reason for not applying them? The only outstandi

Re: holdups for 2.12

2008-11-29 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Saturday, November 29, 2008 12:10 PM Subject: Re: holdups for 2.12 We worked on the release text a few months ago; I believe it made it's way to the wiki. Trevor will post a link here soon, I'm sure. :) Not sure about a wiki link, but the final version of the text is

Re: holdups for 2.12

2008-11-29 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Saturday, November 29, 2008 1:39 AM We now have experienced lilypond contributors thinking about adding a "read the 2.11 docs" to the main web page. That's totally the wrong solution, especially since 2.12 is so (?) close. What are the remaining issues before we release

Re: Using \lookup to extract glyphs

2008-11-28 Thread Trevor Daniels
Neil Thanks for this. I can't vouch for the code, but the intention looks good! Trevor - Original Message - From: "Neil Puttock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Trevor Daniels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Valentin Villenave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Using \lookup to extract glyphs

2008-11-27 Thread Trevor Daniels
Valentin Villenave wrote Thursday, November 27, 2008 8:41 AM 2008/11/27 Neil Puttock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: How about \left-brace and (rotated) \right-brace? This would make it much simpler to embed them within text that has font-name overrides. Great idea! I agree. ... either two comma

Using \lookup to extract glyphs

2008-11-25 Thread Trevor Daniels
AFAICS the only fonts immediately available to \lookup which are not more easily accessible via \musicglyph are the myriad of braces of different sizes. The Internal Reference suggests that font-encoding may be set to fetaMusic, fetaNumber, TeX-text, TeX-math, fetaBraces, fetaDynamic, but the

Re: Review of text.itely

2008-11-24 Thread Trevor Daniels
Valentin, you wrote Sunday, November 23, 2008 3:26 PM 2008/11/23 Trevor Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I've just reviewed text.itely. I think this is mainly your work and very impressive it is! I made only three minor changes, of which only one is significant. If you can find

Review of text.itely

2008-11-23 Thread Trevor Daniels
Valentin I've just reviewed text.itely. I think this is mainly your work and very impressive it is! I made only three minor changes, of which only one is significant. If you can find a couple of minutes perhaps you could check these out to be sure I've not screwed anything up. There are o

Docs: 1.6 Staff

2008-11-23 Thread Trevor Daniels
Notation Reference Section 1.6 Staff notation has now been reviewed twice and is ready to be released for translation, although I see Till and Francisco have already translated it to German and Spanish pretty well completely! Trevor ___ lilypond-d

Re: correct usage of @funindex and friends

2008-11-22 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Saturday, November 22, 2008 9:52 AM On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 09:27:18AM -, Trevor Daniels wrote: The description of the contents of the Function index states that it "lists all the LilyPond commands and keywords". \foo is a command and foo is a keyword, s

Re: correct usage of @funindex and friends

2008-11-22 Thread Trevor Daniels
Werner, Patrick Originally I opposed the @funindex foo form as being both redundant and misleading, but was out-voted (3 to 1). But on thinking about it again I have changed my mind, for the following reason. The description of the contents of the Function index states that it "lists all th

Re: [PATCH] Docs: Update default stylesheets

2008-11-21 Thread Trevor Daniels
LGTM Trevor - Original Message - From: "Patrick McCarty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Reinhold Kainhofer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: ; "Trevor Daniels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "till Rettig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, Nov

Re: ugly @predefined sections in PDF

2008-11-20 Thread Trevor Daniels
Werner LEMBERG wrote Wednesday, November 19, 2008 11:47 PM > I think it is even ok to insert them everywhere -- we have also > @ignore and @end ignore. I'm not opposed to this in principle, but you'll have to find someone else to go through all the .itely files and insert them. I don't even

Re: [PATCH] Docs: Update default stylesheets

2008-11-20 Thread Trevor Daniels
till Rettig wrote Thursday, November 20, 2008 7:25 AM Hi, nice work! I like the new green navigation bar! But again, I prefer ther warmer beige of the old contents box. :-) I agree with both these comments, but I prefer the tighter spacing of the contents list in the new one. Trevor Gr

Re: ugly @predefined sections in PDF

2008-11-19 Thread Trevor Daniels
Till Rettig wrote Wednesday, November 19, 2008 5:43 PM Subject: Re: ugly @predefined sections in PDF Trevor Daniels schrieb: Werner LEMBERG wrote Wednesday, November 19, 2008 2:48 PM There are only a couple of instances where this looks particularly bad. Could we instead change just

Re: ugly @predefined sections in PDF

2008-11-19 Thread Trevor Daniels
Werner LEMBERG wrote Wednesday, November 19, 2008 2:48 PM There are only a couple of instances where this looks particularly bad. Could we instead change just those instances so each of predefined commands is on a separate line? Is this possible? It would certainly be easier! It's not cle

Re: ugly @seealso output

2008-11-19 Thread Trevor Daniels
Werner LEMBERG wrote Wednesday, November 19, 2008 2:50 PM I vote for the easiest - let's lose the blank line. I vote for @seealso ... @endseealso IMHO, it's far too error prone to rely on the editors that @seealso is never followed by a blank line, given that not doing so causes no warn

Re: ugly @seealso output

2008-11-19 Thread Trevor Daniels
I vote for the easiest - let's lose the blank line. Trevor - Original Message - From: "Werner LEMBERG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 8:53 AM Subject: ugly @seealso output Currently, @seealso is defined as follows @macro seealso @noindent @subsubhea

Re: ugly @predefined sections in PDF

2008-11-19 Thread Trevor Daniels
Werner There are only a couple of instances where this looks particularly bad. Could we instead change just those instances so each of predefined commands is on a separate line? Is this possible? It would certainly be easier! Trevor - Original Message - From: "Werner LEMBERG" <[EM

Re: gub3 binaries, please test

2008-11-15 Thread Trevor Daniels
hen I have more time a a few days. As I have not had need to run convert-ly for I long time I hadn't noticed this. Sorry to raise a false alert :( Trevor Trevor Daniels wrote Friday, November 14, 2008 5:14 PM> Jan, you wrote Thursday, November 13, 2008 1:51 PM Op donderdag 13-11-2008

Re: gub3 binaries, please test

2008-11-14 Thread Trevor Daniels
Jan, you wrote Thursday, November 13, 2008 1:51 PM Op donderdag 13-11-2008 om 11:51 uur [tijdzone +], schreef Trevor Daniels: Hi Trevor, OK, that problem's fixed. But running convert-ly.py gives: sh.exe": /c/Program Files/LilyPond/usr/bin/convert-ly.py: /home/janneke/vc/g

Re: gub3 binaries, please test

2008-11-13 Thread Trevor Daniels
Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote Wednesday, November 12, 2008 8:20 PM Op woensdag 12-11-2008 om 09:12 uur [tijdzone +], schreef Trevor Daniels: Hi Trevor, "This application has failed to start because pthreadGC2.dll was not found." Ah, yes. That's what you get when you

Re: gub3 binaries, please test

2008-11-12 Thread Trevor Daniels
Hi Jan The Windows binary appeared to install without error in Windows Vista Home Premium and LilyPond itself works fine, but running any python program gives the error: "This application has failed to start because pthreadGC2.dll was not found." followed by "python.exe has stopped working".

Re: documentation suggestion

2008-11-10 Thread Trevor Daniels
John Williams wrote Monday, November 10, 2008 2:50 AM I think it would be extremely helpful for people attempting to tweak lilypond, if there were examples in the documentation whenever a tweak is mentioned. This is already the case for most of the beginner's documentation, but when we get i

Re: Overriding nested props using a list, aka less arm twisting for ourFrench users ; )

2008-11-10 Thread Trevor Daniels
Neil Puttock wrote Monday, November 10, 2008 12:33 AM 2008/11/9 Trevor Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I'll hold off tackling this bit, which needs to be added to the Spanner section, for a while in case this change is approved. Is it OK for me to do a bit of work on the l

Re: Overriding nested props using a list, aka less arm twisting for ourFrench users ; )

2008-11-09 Thread Trevor Daniels
Neil Puttock wrote Sunday, November 09, 2008 4:14 PM We currently have the following syntax for reverting properties, \revert Grob #'(list of nested props) which is rather convenient when using bound-details. Now we've recently had a few complaints about how cumbersome overriding properties

Re: first instance of lyrics in LM could look better

2008-11-08 Thread Trevor Daniels
Francisco Vila wrote Saturday, November 08, 2008 10:50 AM 2008/11/7 Trevor Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: so, as \addlyrics is the principal technique introduced in the Learning Manual, I'll change it as you suggest. I've seen it. Why to omit hyphenation such as twin -- kle

Re: first instance of lyrics in LM could look better

2008-11-07 Thread Trevor Daniels
Mark Polesky wrote Friday, November 07, 2008 8:08 AM The lyrics in the "twinkle" example are left-aligned instead of centered because the example uses \lyricmode instead of \addlyrics. This is the first example using lyrics in the Learning Manual, and I think it should look better than this.

Re: NR5 and 6 feedback

2008-11-05 Thread Trevor Daniels
Carl I'm partly through editing NR 5 but I broke off to try to complete NR 1.2 and other sections in NR 1 and NR 2, which I see as needing to be finished before 2.12. No one has yet touched NR 6, apart from perhaps dumping things in here from elsewhere. It would be really great if you could

Re: Beat grouping and reverting

2008-11-04 Thread Trevor Daniels
Carl, you wrote Monday, October 27, 2008 12:03 AM On 10/26/08 4:44 PM, "Trevor Daniels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Carl D. Sorensen Sunday, October 26, 2008 9:30 PM In fact, it may be possible to greatly reduce (or even eliminate) explicit settings in scm/auto-beam.scm and r

Re: Adding files to input/new

2008-11-02 Thread Trevor Daniels
Neil, you wrote Sunday, November 02, 2008 2:33 PM If you add a file to input/new, you must wait for an LSR update before referencing the snippet in the docs, since @lilypondfile looks in input/lsr for the generated file. Sorry Neil - mea culpa. I knew what I should do, and placed the @lilyp

Re: NR 2.8 Ancient music ready for review

2008-11-01 Thread Trevor Daniels
Eyolf More comments on Ancient now seem unlikely. There have not been many, but that's par for the course when editing manuals :( Are you intending to complete the transformation of Ancient sometime soon? If you could finish off all the music-related stuff I'd be happy (well, "willing" woul

Re: music examples too large for PDF

2008-11-01 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham, you wrote Friday, October 31, 2008 3:00 PM On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 02:02:42PM +0100, John Mandereau wrote: On 2008/10/30 15:51 +0100, Werner LEMBERG wrote: > rhythms-headword.ly (in section 1.2) is fine for HTML but too wide for > the PDF. In other words, we should add some code to r

Re: What to do when \> and \< produce text

2008-10-30 Thread Trevor Daniels
Mats Bengtsson wrote Thursday, October 30, 2008 9:03 AM Valentin Villenave wrote: 2008/10/29 Reinhold Kainhofer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: \decresc ... Starts a text decrescendo This one wasn't available earlier, but can of course easily be added if there's consensus about it. For the macros tha

Re: texinfo bug: @table within @example

2008-10-30 Thread Trevor Daniels
Werner LEMBERG wrote Thursday, October 30, 2008 7:59 AM Could you see if you think this has made an improvement. Much better, thanks. However, it still exposes a severe bug in the used version of texi2html: There is absolutely no reason why there are two empty lines between each item. Th

Re: texinfo bug: @table within @example

2008-10-28 Thread Trevor Daniels
Werner I've just pushed some changes to improve these tables. The notename/accidental table has been split into two to avoid overrunning the right margin, and @quotation is used instead of @example. I've also used @file{} for the filenames. Could you see if you think this has made an improvemen

Re: texinfo bug: @table within @example

2008-10-28 Thread Trevor Daniels
Werner Setting out these tables has caused several of us considerable grief! I think maybe it might be best to split the first table into two - one dealing with the pitches and one with the accidentals - and maybe even the second one as well. That at least would avoid the tables running off the

Beat grouping and reverting - proposed mod

2008-10-28 Thread Trevor Daniels
ld do that this side of 2.12. Trevor Carl D. Sorensen wrote Monday, October 27, 2008 12:03 AM On 10/26/08 4:44 PM, "Trevor Daniels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Carl D. Sorensen Sunday, October 26, 2008 9:30 PM On 10/26/08 4:00 AM, "Trevor Daniels" <[EMAIL PR

Re: Git: to merge or not to merge.

2008-10-27 Thread Trevor Daniels
Francisco Vila Monday, October 27, 2008 11:03 AM 2008/10/27 Trevor Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Sometimes there is another commit in between and therefore I cannot fast forward, but I deal with it by preparing a patch, resetting, and applying it afterwards. I think cherry-pick w

Re: Git: to merge or not to merge.

2008-10-27 Thread Trevor Daniels
Francisco Vila Monday, October 27, 2008 9:42 AM 2008/10/27 John Mandereau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On 2008/10/26 23:32 +0100, Francisco Vila wrote: I'm sure you have noticed that I do a merge of master into lilypond/translation every few days. I am sorry if this is considered a pollution of the

Re: Fw: [PATCH] Nested contexts of any depth (junk InnerStaffGroup & InnerChoirStaff)

2008-10-27 Thread Trevor Daniels
Valentin Villenave Monday, October 27, 2008 9:32 AM 2008/10/27 Trevor Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: The thread started by this mail of yours (suggesting applying Rune's patch to permit contexts to be nested and those confusing Inner contexts to be junked) was high-jacked by

Fw: [PATCH] Nested contexts of any depth (junk InnerStaffGroup & InnerChoirStaff)

2008-10-27 Thread Trevor Daniels
Neil The thread started by this mail of yours (suggesting applying Rune's patch to permit contexts to be nested and those confusing Inner contexts to be junked) was high-jacked by a separate suggestion to junk PianoStaff, which was later abandoned for reasons which did not apply to Rune's patch.

Re: shorthand for autoBeam control

2008-10-24 Thread Trevor Daniels
Trevor, you wrote Thursday, October 23, 2008 11:26 PM On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 4:27 PM, Werner LEMBERG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Please don't change c[ ]! Do you really mean that you've used, say, a b[] c within your score? Currently, this is an undocumented feature, so you are use so

Re: indexing : tweaks & question

2008-10-21 Thread Trevor Daniels
Hi Ralph I actually quite like properties indexed in a different way to other things, but for consistency maybe we should remove the @code{ }. Just to be sure though I'll copy to -dev for comment. Trevor - Original Message - From: "Ralph Palmer" <[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: Oyseaux, two proposals

2008-10-21 Thread Trevor Daniels
Francisco, you wrote Monday, October 20, 2008 7:42 PM 2008/10/20 Valentin Villenave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: 2008/10/20 Till Rettig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Great work, thank you! I like both ;-)... maybe the first a bit more... I'd go for the first one too (though I like the end so much...) beca

Re: Autobeaming overrides

2008-10-19 Thread Trevor Daniels
hat detail. -David Trevor Daniels wrote: Thanks David I think the words you quote are from the 2.10 docs. The wording in the 2.11 docs will be: "If any unexpected beam behavior occurs, check the default automatic beam settings in ‘scm/auto-beam.scm’ for possible interference, because t

Re: Autobeaming overrides

2008-10-19 Thread Trevor Daniels
" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Trevor Daniels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Lilypond-User List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Lily-Devel List" Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 10:16 AM Subject: Re: Autobeaming overrides I don't have an answer to your questi

Autobeaming overrides

2008-10-19 Thread Trevor Daniels
I'm putting the finishing touches to the Rhythm section of the Notation Reference and would like some help. The usual override for modifying the automatic beaming rhythm specifies the ending beat of the beam: #(override-auto-beam-setting '(end * * 6 8) 4 8) It is also possible to specify the

Re: Release text (was Re: Lilypond code/feature freeze for 2.12)

2008-10-18 Thread Trevor Daniels
, 2008 9:39 PM Subject: Re: Release text (was Re: Lilypond code/feature freeze for 2.12) Hi, I haven't heard anything anymore: is this the final release text? I would translate it now, if there are no changes coming. Till Trevor Daniels wrote: I've folded in this and all the o

Re: Moving guitar fingering orientations

2008-10-17 Thread Trevor Daniels
ginal Message - From: "Jonathan Kulp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Trevor Daniels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 12:08 AM Subject: Re: Moving guitar fingering orientations Thanks, Trevor. I do think the warning is a good idea even though the text a

Re: Conversion of apostrophe in texi to PDF (was Re: Typos in LM)

2008-10-17 Thread Trevor Daniels
Reinhold, you wrote Friday, October 17, 2008 1:29 PM Am Freitag, 17. Oktober 2008 schrieb Trevor Daniels: There's (at least) one more, nested in an @warning. Where exactly is this so I can check it, too? Sorry, I should have said. It's in LM 2.3.1, immediately before Simultan

Re: Conversion of apostrophe in texi to PDF (was Re: Typos in LM)

2008-10-17 Thread Trevor Daniels
Trevor Daniels wrote Thursday, October 16, 2008 9:25 AM Trevor Daniels wrote Wednesday, October 15, 2008 10:59 PM Reinhold Kainhofer wrote Wednesday, October 15, 2008 5:33 PM Am Mittwoch, 15. Oktober 2008 schrieb Jonathan Kulp: Reinhold Kainhofer wrote: > It seems that texi2pdf replaces

Re: Conversion of apostrophe in texi to PDF (was Re: Typos in LM)

2008-10-16 Thread Trevor Daniels
Trevor Daniels wrote Wednesday, October 15, 2008 10:59 PM Reinhold Kainhofer wrote Wednesday, October 15, 2008 5:33 PM Am Mittwoch, 15. Oktober 2008 schrieb Jonathan Kulp: Reinhold Kainhofer wrote: > It seems that texi2pdf replaces all single quotes by a smart right > quote. > Ev

Re: Conversion of apostrophe in texi to PDF (was Re: Typos in LM)

2008-10-15 Thread Trevor Daniels
Reinhold Kainhofer wrote Wednesday, October 15, 2008 5:33 PM Am Mittwoch, 15. Oktober 2008 schrieb Jonathan Kulp: Reinhold Kainhofer wrote: > It seems that texi2pdf replaces all single quotes by a smart right > quote. > Even if you use it inside @code{c'}, you'll not get a ' but a curved > on

Re: Fw: Vocal music

2008-10-13 Thread Trevor Daniels
Eyolf, you wrote I have pushed a new reordering for 2.1 "Vocal music"; please tell me what you think about it. I don't like it. Is Trevor beginning to sound like Graham...? :) Mao, yes; I thought Valentin would be missing him by now ;) Trevor __

Re: Docs: NR 1.2 Rhythms

2008-10-13 Thread Trevor Daniels
Carl, you wrote Monday, October 13, 2008 1:31 PM Trevor, I'm swamped. I'd be delighted to have you tidy up Rhythms. I think there's still a bit of work to go on this section, but right now I'm not going to be able to get to it. OK. I'll do some minimal tidying up. Jon, if you have an

Re: Fw: Vocal music

2008-10-13 Thread Trevor Daniels
arate sections on style-specific stuff at the end. More comments below ... You wrote Monday, October 13, 2008 11:41 AM 2008/10/13 Trevor Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: That's because you've put all the different style stuff where it doesn't belong, in "Common notation"

Docs: NR 1.2 Rhythms

2008-10-13 Thread Trevor Daniels
Carl, Jon I see Carl pushed the latest edits for Rhythms a few days ago. Do you have anything still planned for this section or can we release it for review now? I notice there are some TODOs still visible, though. If you are busy perhaps I could tidy these up? Trevor

NR 1.5 Simultaneous notes ready for translation

2008-10-13 Thread Trevor Daniels
After extensive work by Francisco, several reviews and lots of comments, I'm happy to announce NR 1.5 Simultaneous notes is now ready for translation. Thanks to all. Trevor ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org

Re: Fw: Vocal music

2008-10-13 Thread Trevor Daniels
Valentin, you wrote Sunday, October 12, 2008 12:38 PM 2008/10/3 Trevor Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: This is good. I'm very happy with this. Greetings Trevor, I have pushed a new reordering for 2.1 "Vocal music"; please tell me what you think about it. I

Docs: Expressive ready for translators

2008-10-10 Thread Trevor Daniels
Section 1.3 Expressive marks in expressive.itely seems to be in pretty good shape, and can now be safely translated (although I see the French, Spanish and German translations are already pretty well complete). Trevor ___ lilypond-devel mailing lis

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2008-10-08 Thread Trevor Daniels
Valentin, you wrote Wednesday, October 08, 2008 2:52 PM 2008/10/8 Trevor Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: This has quite a potential to muck things up in the docs, but if we want to make the change this is what will need to be done. Well, I have done everything I could to fix things (e

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2008-10-08 Thread Trevor Daniels
Valentin This has quite a potential to muck things up in the docs, but if we want to make the change this is what will need to be done. The global change which you have done does not work if both PianoStaff and GrandStaff appear in the same sentence or even paragraph. One example I spotted

Re: \bigger and \larger: that's one too many

2008-10-06 Thread Trevor Daniels
Valentin Villenave wrote Monday, October 06, 2008 10:42 AM \bigger and \larger are two markup commands that act exactly the same; which one do we want do keep? Graham: "\bigger sounds better when opposed to \smaller" I don't agree with this - I think large is the correct opposite to small, e

Re: Fw: Vocal music

2008-10-03 Thread Trevor Daniels
Valentin, you wrote Friday, October 03, 2008 8:42 AM 2008/10/2 Trevor Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I wish we could have a "common notation" section that would deal with the voice as an instrument (for instance, the parlato notehead example is quite good; we could a

Re: Fw: Vocal music

2008-10-02 Thread Trevor Daniels
Valentin, you wrote Thursday, October 02, 2008 5:43 PM 2008/10/2 Trevor Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: OK. Below is one possible layout which seems to work. Most of the stuff is under "Common", as all the lyrics-specific notation is common. The differences arise in ho

Re: Fw: Vocal music

2008-10-02 Thread Trevor Daniels
Valentin, you wrote Thursday, October 02, 2008 7:41 AM 2008/10/2 Trevor Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I agree it does not belong within any section, yet at present it appears within 2.1.1 Entering lyrics. As the only references we have so far identified are one to the Learning Manual a

Re: NR 1.5 and 1.6 reviewed

2008-10-02 Thread Trevor Daniels
Patrick McCarty wrote Thursday, October 02, 2008 8:41 AM Subject: Re: NR 1.5 and 1.6 reviewed On Thu, Oct 02, 2008 at 09:14:25AM +0200, Valentin Villenave wrote: 2008/10/2 Andrew Hawryluk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > In the third musical example under "Instrument names" (.itely lines > 963–977), wh

Re: Fw: Vocal music

2008-10-01 Thread Trevor Daniels
Valentin, you wrote Wednesday, October 01, 2008 7:40 PM 2008/10/1 Trevor Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: There will not be many References for vocal music, as pretty well all of it is going to be in this section, but there should be one to @rlearning{Songs}, which gives a gentle introd

Re: Fw: Vocal music

2008-10-01 Thread Trevor Daniels
headword. Let's put it up and have a look. I've not pushed this, as I know nothing of translations, but I'm happy to do so if John says it's OK. Trevor - Original Message - From: "Valentin Villenave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Trevor Daniels

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