Re: Substitute for s1*0

2012-05-06 Thread David Kastrup
Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu writes: On May 5, 2012, at 8:16 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: But what about \footnote: that does not have this problem. In fact, isn't generally prettier than s1*0? Should we be using it in code and documentation rather than s1*0? What a

Re: Substitute for s1*0

2012-05-06 Thread Werner LEMBERG
There is a drawback, though. q is changed. Now q is implemented as but with the current duration on it. Which would mean that the total moment of { c4 q } would likely change when q gets expanded. While c _is_ considered for q for consistency's sake, perhaps should be made to

Re: Lilypond miscompiled on Fedora 17

2012-05-06 Thread David Kastrup
Pavel Roskin pro...@gnu.org writes: Quoting David Kastrup d...@gnu.org: We can probably use yes:400600[0-2]) here: 4.6.3 is supposed to contain the fix. Thank you for opening a separate ticket for it (2514) and reviewing my ticket (2513)! Well, it means that my ticket goes through

Re: Substitute for s1*0

2012-05-06 Thread Trevor Daniels
David Kastrup wrote Sunday, May 06, 2012 2:57 AM In fact, isn't generally prettier than s1*0? Should we be using it in code and documentation rather than s1*0? Definitely prettier, but maybe not so transparent as s1*0. It is not intuitively obvious that an empty chord takes no time and

Re: Substitute for s1*0

2012-05-06 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, May 06, 2012 at 08:58:11AM +0100, Trevor Daniels wrote: David Kastrup wrote Sunday, May 06, 2012 2:57 AM In fact, isn't generally prettier than s1*0? Should we be using it in code and documentation rather than s1*0? Definitely prettier, but maybe not so transparent as s1*0. +1

Re: Substitute for s1*0

2012-05-06 Thread David Kastrup
Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk writes: David Kastrup wrote Sunday, May 06, 2012 2:57 AM In fact, isn't generally prettier than s1*0? Should we be using it in code and documentation rather than s1*0? Definitely prettier, but maybe not so transparent as s1*0. I disagree. Quick: tell

Re: Substitute for s1*0

2012-05-06 Thread David Kastrup
Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes: On Sun, May 06, 2012 at 08:58:11AM +0100, Trevor Daniels wrote: David Kastrup wrote Sunday, May 06, 2012 2:57 AM In fact, isn't generally prettier than s1*0? Should we be using it in code and documentation rather than s1*0? Definitely

Re: Substitute for s1*0

2012-05-06 Thread David Kastrup
David Kastrup d...@gnu.org writes: Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes: On Sun, May 06, 2012 at 08:58:11AM +0100, Trevor Daniels wrote: David Kastrup wrote Sunday, May 06, 2012 2:57 AM In fact, isn't generally prettier than s1*0? Should we be using it in code and

Re: Substitute for s1*0

2012-05-06 Thread Francisco Vila
Is s*0 valid? It would not change default duration of next note. Cannot test right now, sorry. ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel

CG guide to building GUB (issue 6199045)

2012-05-06 Thread PhilEHolmes
Reviewers: Graham Percival, J_lowe, Message: Please review Description: Some notes on how to set up a GUB build environment. Please review this at http://codereview.appspot.com/6199045/ Affected files: M Documentation/contributor/build-notes.itexi Index:

Re: CG guide to building GUB (issue 6199045)

2012-05-06 Thread graham
great start; a few notes for you or James to investigate. http://codereview.appspot.com/6199045/diff/1/Documentation/contributor/build-notes.itexi File Documentation/contributor/build-notes.itexi (right):

Re: Substitute for s1*0

2012-05-06 Thread David Kastrup
Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com writes: Is s*0 valid? No. *0 is part of the duration, not some magical repeat count. It would not change default duration of next note. It should, if it were allowed. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-devel

Re: Substitute for s1*0

2012-05-06 Thread Pavel Roskin
Quoting Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca: On Sun, May 06, 2012 at 08:58:11AM +0100, Trevor Daniels wrote: David Kastrup wrote Sunday, May 06, 2012 2:57 AM In fact, isn't generally prettier than s1*0? Should we be using it in code and documentation rather than s1*0? Definitely

Re: CG guide to building GUB (issue 6199045)

2012-05-06 Thread PhilEHolmes
On 2012/05/06 11:27:47, Graham Percival wrote: great start; a few notes for you or James to investigate. http://codereview.appspot.com/6199045/diff/1/Documentation/contributor/build-notes.itexi File Documentation/contributor/build-notes.itexi (right):

Re: CG guide to building GUB (issue 6199045)

2012-05-06 Thread graham
On 2012/05/06 13:06:09, PhilEHolmes wrote: The filesystem I created was 64 Gigs, and it shows 36.8 free - so 30 gigs is the bare minimum. My GUB directory is about 12 Gigs, and my total file size is around 17 Gigs, ah, that makes sense. I was only looking at the directory, but of course

Re: Substitute for s1*0

2012-05-06 Thread David Kastrup
Pavel Roskin pro...@gnu.org writes: Quoting Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca: On Sun, May 06, 2012 at 08:58:11AM +0100, Trevor Daniels wrote: David Kastrup wrote Sunday, May 06, 2012 2:57 AM In fact, isn't generally prettier than s1*0? Should we be using it in code and

Re: Your Gnu package lilypond

2012-05-06 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, May 06, 2012 at 05:15:59AM -0400, John Darrington wrote: Thank you for your very comprehensive reply, which inspired me to look at the lilypond website. It is indeed very elaborate and certainly gives a very professional impression. (There are however a few terminology issues which I

Re: how to remove a file

2012-05-06 Thread Federico Bruni
I'm putting -devel in CC. Sorry for pushing, I'm in a hurry: I'd like to send the patches within tonight. Il 06/05/2012 15:53, Federico Bruni ha scritto: Hi, I have to remove the .texidoc file of a snippet which has been removed: diff --git

Re: Substitute for s1*0

2012-05-06 Thread Trevor Daniels
David Kastrup wrote Sunday, May 06, 2012 9:34 AM Quick: tell me what you would expect without too much thinking (imagine you are a naive user) from the following: \new Staff \relative c'' { c4 d e f s1*0-\markup Oops c d e f g1 } \\ \relative c' { c4 d e f -\markup Wow c d e f g1 } That's

Re: Substitute for s1*0

2012-05-06 Thread David Kastrup
Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk writes: David Kastrup wrote Sunday, May 06, 2012 9:34 AM Quick: tell me what you would expect without too much thinking (imagine you are a naive user) from the following: \new Staff \relative c'' { c4 d e f s1*0-\markup Oops c d e f g1 } \\

Re: Substitute for s1*0

2012-05-06 Thread David Kastrup
Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk writes: David Kastrup wrote Sunday, May 06, 2012 9:34 AM Quick: tell me what you would expect without too much thinking (imagine you are a naive user) from the following: \new Staff \relative c'' { c4 d e f s1*0-\markup Oops c d e f g1 } \\

Re: Substitute for s1*0

2012-05-06 Thread David Kastrup
Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes: On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 6:56 AM, Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org wrote: In fact, isn't generally prettier than s1*0?  Should we be using it in code and documentation rather than s1*0? What a great idea!  No notes generated; the duration doesn't

Intregrating lilypond.pot update to 'make release'

2012-05-06 Thread Jean-Charles Malahieude
Hi Jan and Graham, Since I got a problem the last time I notified the Free Translation Project of a new lilypond.pot, I'd like to have it updated during the releasing process. What you'll find in the enclosed patch is an attempt to adapt 'make po-replace' in order to have an automatically

Re: how to remove a file

2012-05-06 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, May 06, 2012 at 05:32:08PM +0200, Federico Bruni wrote: I made a try: $ git rm Documentation/it/texidocs/piano-template-with-centered-dynamics.texidoc error: 'Documentation/it/texidocs/piano-template-with-centered-dynamics.texidoc' has local modifications (use --cached to keep

translators: fix your open source mistranslations

2012-05-06 Thread Graham Percival
I have a bit more information about the terminology problems. Although the English website is relatively ok (I remember specifically thinking about free software vs. open source while writing it -- but Janek should still fix the little bits I missed), some translations are wrong. For example, On

Re: Intregrating lilypond.pot update to 'make release'

2012-05-06 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, May 06, 2012 at 06:19:42PM +0200, Jean-Charles Malahieude wrote: What you'll find in the enclosed patch is an attempt to adapt 'make po-replace' in order to have an automatically well-formed .pot included in 'make dist'. Please upload patches to rietveld with git-cl, as specified here:

Re: translators: fix your open source mistranslations

2012-05-06 Thread Jean-Charles Malahieude
Le 06/05/2012 18:31, Graham Percival disait : I have a bit more information about the terminology problems. Although the English website is relatively ok (I remember specifically thinking about free software vs. open source while writing it -- but Janek should still fix the little bits I

Re: staff_radius fixes (issue 6202048)

2012-05-06 Thread benko . pal
this patch makes staff_radius work in cases when line-positions is overridden. so long staff_radius assumed overriding at most line-count. sorry, I forgot to mention that - staff-radius behaved incorrectly also when staff-space is overridden - there's one slight difference in the regression

Re: translators: fix your open source mistranslations

2012-05-06 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, May 06, 2012 at 07:02:20PM +0200, Jean-Charles Malahieude wrote: Just two instances in GSoC node that I'm not sure they should be transformed: fr (translation)]$ git grep -n 'open source' web/community.itexi:930:étudiants pour écrire du code au bénéfice de projets @emph{open

Re: [translations] Re: how to remove a file

2012-05-06 Thread Francisco Vila
2012/5/6 Federico Bruni fedel...@gmail.com: I'm putting -devel in CC. Sorry for pushing, I'm in a hurry: I'd like to send the patches within tonight. Il 06/05/2012 15:53, Federico Bruni ha scritto: Hi, I have to remove the .texidoc file of a snippet which has been removed: diff --git

Re: translators: fix your open source mistranslations

2012-05-06 Thread Francisco Vila
2012/5/6 Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca: On Sun, May 06, 2012 at 07:02:20PM +0200, Jean-Charles Malahieude wrote: Just two instances in GSoC node that I'm not sure they should be transformed: fr (translation)]$ git grep -n 'open source' web/community.itexi:930:étudiants pour

Re: translators: fix your open source mistranslations

2012-05-06 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, May 06, 2012 at 09:36:38PM +0200, Francisco Vila wrote: 2012/5/6 Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca: So I guess those shouldn't be changed, and if that's it in the French translation then I guess you're fine. We have in English http://lilypond.org/freedom.html “Gift

Re: Substitute for s1*0

2012-05-06 Thread Trevor Daniels
David Kastrup wrote Sunday, May 06, 2012 4:44 PM Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk writes: Actually, I don't think s1*0 appears in the docs. Documentation/notation/vocal.itely: s1*0^\markup { \right-align { \tiny Flute } } Documentation/notation/vocal.itely: s1*0_\markup {

Re: Substitute for s1*0

2012-05-06 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, May 06, 2012 at 10:17:05PM +0100, Trevor Daniels wrote: I've no objection to the docs being changed to use an empty chord but its semantics will need to be introduced somewhere. The best place is probably the LM, in 2.2.4 Combining notes into chords. I'm still not happy with an

Re: Substitute for s1*0

2012-05-06 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Sunday, May 06, 2012 10:24 PM I'm still not happy with an empty chord, especially in the Learning Manual. I think it leads to the perlization of lilypond, where we end up looking like a ridiculous language like Haskell. My point really is that exists now, so there

Re: Intregrating lilypond.pot update to 'make release'

2012-05-06 Thread Ian Hulin
Hi Jean-Charles, I spotted a typo in your README text, On 06/05/12 17:19, Jean-Charles Malahieude wrote: +2) updating lilypond.pot: run 'make po-replace' at toplevel, commit +lilypond.pot to Git, roll a tarball with 'make dist', upload it +somewhere on the web (or wait for the release), and

PATCH: Countdown to 20120508

2012-05-06 Thread Colin Campbell
For 20:00 MDT Tuesday May 8 Enhancement: Issue 2513 http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2513: Patch: Build: add -fno-tree-vrp to CXXFLAGS for gcc 4.7.0 - R6191048 http://codereview.appspot.com/6191048/ (s/b reviewed, pushed before 2514) Issue 2514

Re: Substitute for s1*0

2012-05-06 Thread Werner LEMBERG
Warning! This is an off-topic e-mail. I think it leads to the perlization of lilypond, where we end up looking like a ridiculous language like Haskell. What exactly is `ridiculous' in Haskell? Personally, I find this language quite fascinating. Werner

Re: Substitute for s1*0

2012-05-06 Thread Keith OHara
Trevor Daniels t.daniels at treda.co.uk writes: My point really is that exists now, so there ought to be a short note in the section where chords are introduced to say that an empty chord takes no time, whatever the current duration happens to be. I agree with Trevor. And with David in