Re: "Structure and interpretation" of Scheme

2022-03-07 Thread Luca Fascione
(and it looks _a lot_ better now) L On Mon, Mar 7, 2022 at 8:08 AM Luca Fascione wrote: > I was wondering how to do exactly this actually :-) > Thanks Werner! > > L > > On Mon, 7 Mar 2022, 08:06 Werner LEMBERG, wrote: > >> >> > https://www.cs.utexas.edu/ftp

Re: "Structure and interpretation" of Scheme

2022-03-06 Thread Luca Fascione
I was wondering how to do exactly this actually :-) Thanks Werner! L On Mon, 7 Mar 2022, 08:06 Werner LEMBERG, wrote: > > > https://www.cs.utexas.edu/ftp/garbage/submit/notready/schintro.ps > > > > [...] and the rendering is not great. > > Attached you can find a PDF version of `schintro.ps`

Re: Setting up classical guitar fingerings

2022-03-05 Thread Luca Fascione
want > to > know what exact properties a grob has, you can look in define-grobs.scm. > And > similar stuff. > > And if you encounter something you really do not understand, ask the list. > We’ve got some really marvellous people here who appear to know about > everything you mig

Re: Setting up classical guitar fingerings

2022-03-05 Thread Luca Fascione
"scm/". Vague pointers like that are hopefully all I'll need. Many thanks, Luca On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 6:49 PM Luca Fascione wrote: > Yes exactly, because of how our finger to note relation works, the > enhancement in readability with the indication right at the head is > e

Re: How to use LaTeX code from manual to include LilyPond-generated TOC?

2022-03-11 Thread Luca Fascione
I've been asking myself questions about how to do this for a bit... It seems to me most natural the TeX would be having the last word (if you'll look after the lame pun there), and thereby lilypond should indirect somewhat its internal sense of page numbering, so that some negotiation can happen

Re: Blockers for Guile 2.2

2022-03-18 Thread Luca Fascione
Just wanted to say this is great L

Re: Setting up classical guitar fingerings

2022-03-06 Thread Luca Fascione
s variable with (list-copy dtls) and a couple things like that, but I wasn't able to affect the final result at all. Could anybody help me understand what's going on please? Many thanks Luca On Sat, Mar 5, 2022 at 6:27 PM Luca Fascione wrote: > Thanks Valentin, this is useful. > > Sound

Re: Setting up classical guitar fingerings

2022-03-06 Thread Luca Fascione
Hi Valentin, thanks for the super prompt reply! On Sun, Mar 6, 2022 at 5:34 PM Valentin Petzel wrote: > So instead of doing the assoc-set! you might want to do something like > > (ly:grob-set-property! grob 'details `((beamed-lengths . ,stem-bmlgths) > . ,detls)) > For my edification,

Re: "Structure and interpretation" of Scheme (was: Comments wanted on code highlighting in PDF output)

2022-03-06 Thread Luca Fascione
threads on the internet indicate folks are unable to reach him. He seems to have done work in the 90's about garbage collection in languages. = HTH Luca On Tue, Feb 22, 2022 at 10:08 PM Jean Abou Samra wrote: > Le 22/02/2022 à 21:46, Luca Fascione a écrit : > > Thanks Jean, thi

Re: "Structure and interpretation" of Scheme

2022-03-06 Thread Luca Fascione
Yip! https://www.cs.utexas.edu/ftp/garbage/submit/notready/schintro.ps and ftp://ftp.cs.utexas.edu/pub/garbage/cs345/schintro-v14/schintro_toc.html But without ftp support in the browser this is annoying to read Neither link feels like it would be around long term, and the rendering is not great.

Re: Blockers for Guile 2.2

2022-02-24 Thread Luca Fascione
In case it's useful, I'll share my impressions as a recent addition to this group. I have some experience with rolling out software, gathered in a different field. Where I come from we release often (I think we've averaged in the 30+ cuts per year, roughly 2 every 3 weeks), and our users have

Re: Setting up classical guitar fingerings

2022-02-21 Thread Luca Fascione
rd some note heads are > on > the other side of the Stem the alignment of something like -1-2-3 > would > change (disregarding that it wouldn’t even be clear what note head to use). > > Cheers, > Valentin > > Am Montag, 21. Februar 2022, 09:19:30 CET schrieb Luca Fascione: > > Hi

Re: Setting up classical guitar fingerings

2022-02-21 Thread Luca Fascione
eam (this does still get messed up by > very > slanted Beams, it might be useful to also get a reference to the Beam grob > to > factor in the angle of the Beam). With this we can estimate the free space > between NoteHead and Beam, and depending on this space, shift the > Fingering &

Re: Comments wanted on code highlighting in PDF output

2022-02-21 Thread Luca Fascione
:57 Jean Abou Samra, wrote: > Le 21/02/2022 à 19:17, Luca Fascione a écrit : > > I haven't worked wirh TexInfo markup before, however it occurs to me > > that lisp is regular enough that with some effort one could hope to > > scrape out a majority of the function definit

Re: Comments wanted on code highlighting in PDF output

2022-02-21 Thread Luca Fascione
On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 9:58 PM Jean Abou Samra wrote: > Not sure what confuses you? In TCL I got used to bare strings being values, not varnames, so I'm learning stuff again. It's just different, but in languages that in many other things are very similar. Of course I don't find it confusing

Re: Comments wanted on code highlighting in PDF output

2022-02-21 Thread Luca Fascione
On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 9:01 PM Jean Abou Samra wrote: > Are you aware of > > https://myrealbook.vintherine.org/ > > ? > I was not, the material I was working from was the openbook project, by Mark Veltzer. He's done all the heavy work, I'm just working on how to build his stuff and make it

Re: Blockers for Guile 2.2

2022-02-24 Thread Luca Fascione
e, no? > The one thing I want to get straight are the comments about Guile 3.0 > because that claim keeps coming up: > > Am Donnerstag, dem 24.02.2022 um 09:13 +0100 schrieb Luca Fascione: > > [...] 3.0.x [...] seems to be benchmarking with speeds comparable to >

Re: LilyPond 2.23.6 released

2022-02-20 Thread Luca Fascione
Hi Thomas, maybe this can be handy: the `moreutils` package has a utility called `ts`, that will prepend a timestamp to each line of output. If you pipe the output of your compilation into it, you can get timing information quite easily, here's an example: % ls | ts -s "%H:%M:%.S" 00:00:00.13

Re: Blockers for Guile 2.2

2022-02-26 Thread Luca Fascione
Jean, how many times did you run these tests? Eyeballing your numbers it seems there's effectively no difference in execution time opt/no-opt and 2.2/3.0. Is the 5% a stable figure, or is it just a one-sample thing? Would it be a passable inference that the reason the optimizer has effectively no

Re: Setting up classical guitar fingerings

2022-02-21 Thread Luca Fascione
Petzel wrote: > No, not nescessarily. If we want all Fingerings on top or below there is > no real benefit of doing the chord thing. In fact doing that leads to the > exact same issue of the fingering for d being next to the other ones. > > Cheers, > Valentin > > 21.02.202

Re: Comments wanted on code highlighting in PDF output

2022-02-21 Thread Luca Fascione
language is what. (I've done a fair bit of LaTeX over the years) Luca On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 6:33 PM Jean Abou Samra wrote: > Le 21/02/2022 à 17:42, Luca Fascione a écrit : > > Looks lovely to me. > > > > I notice the inline source is not highlighted, is that on purpose? &g

Re: Comments wanted on code highlighting in PDF output

2022-02-21 Thread Luca Fascione
Looks lovely to me. I notice the inline source is not highlighted, is that on purpose? (say 2.1.7, page 23). A lot of other text I've seen seems to use the same highlighting patterns for running code as well as display boxes of code, esp given the fonts you picked are so regular in the weight,

Re: Setting up classical guitar fingerings

2022-02-21 Thread Luca Fascione
t; rather confusing, as there is no monotonic relating between finger and > pitch. > As such I suppose guitar people would want to use fingerings with left or > right > orientations in chords anyway. > > Cheers, > Valentin > > Am Montag, 21. Februar 2022, 17:47:58 CET schrieb L

Re: Blockers for Guile 2.2

2022-02-27 Thread Luca Fascione
On Sat, Feb 26, 2022 at 10:48 PM Jean Abou Samra wrote: > > [Jonas] > > He, I always thought auto-compilation didn't optimize!  now don't > > tell me Guile also applies optimizations while just reading and > > supposedly interpreting code... > > I don't think it does. At least, you don't

Re: Blockers for Guile 2.2

2022-02-27 Thread Luca Fascione
On Sun, Feb 27, 2022 at 12:13 PM Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: > On Sun, Feb 27, 2022 at 10:39 AM Luca Fascione > wrote: > > is it true that if you double the source size you double the compilation > time? > > it should be, but we have rather complicated page breaking co

Re: Setting up classical guitar fingerings

2022-02-20 Thread Luca Fascione
So... would anybody be able to lend a hand here please? Many thanks Luca On Sat, Feb 12, 2022 at 7:49 PM Luca Fascione wrote: > Hello, > sorry for the double-post, I'm unsure whether this should go to -user or > -devel. > > I'm looking for some guidance to set up fingering on c

Re: Setting up classical guitar fingerings

2022-02-20 Thread Luca Fascione
ing steps a to f", I'm happy to have at it, under somebody's guidance. Given that solving this problem is a need of mine, I feel it's completely fine that it ends up being my cost to fix it, all I'm looking for is a few breadcrumbs. Thanks again, L On Sun, Feb 20, 2022 at 9:54 PM Jean Abou S

Re: Comments wanted on code highlighting in PDF output

2022-02-22 Thread Luca Fascione
Cool, as I was saying, once I'm out of the swamp I'm in with these two things I'm trying to get done, I'll see if I can help you L On Tue, Feb 22, 2022 at 9:07 PM Werner LEMBERG wrote: > > > I haven't worked wirh TexInfo markup before, however it occurs to me > > that lisp is regular enough

Re: Setting up classical guitar fingerings

2022-02-20 Thread Luca Fascione
here. > > Valentin > > Am Sonntag, 20. Februar 2022, 21:17:31 CET schrieb Luca Fascione: > > So... would anybody be able to lend a hand here please? > > > > Many thanks > > Luca > > > > On Sat, Feb 12, 2022 at 7:49 PM Luca Fascione > wrote: > >

Re: Setting up classical guitar fingerings

2022-02-21 Thread Luca Fascione
Uhr schrieb Luca Fascione < > l.fasci...@gmail.com>: > > > a) I'm looking for a way to get the fingerings where I want them without > > using one-note-chord tricks > > Well, for Fingerings not in chord, like b-1 or -2-1 X-parent > is NoteColumn _not_ Note

Re: Blockers for Guile 2.2

2022-02-22 Thread Luca Fascione
I expect this has been considered before, but what is it that makes it unpalatable to have a step like initex for TeX to build the .go files upon installation? Wouldn't it solve the issue at hand? (The portability would be addressed by the fact that it's the target platform to build online, and

Re: "Structure and interpretation" of Scheme (was: Comments wanted on code highlighting in PDF output)

2022-02-22 Thread Luca Fascione
On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 10:34 PM Jean Abou Samra wrote: > > > Le 21/02/2022 à 22:19, Luca Fascione a écrit : > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 9:58 PM Jean Abou Samra > > wrote: > > > > Not sure what confuses you? > > > > > > In

Re: Should \partial accept music instead of duration?

2022-03-20 Thread Luca Fascione
What if you rotate them instead? Rename the current \partial \partialDuration, convert.ly now is just s/partial/partialDuration/ and \partial always takes music from now on It's the same as Werner said, but keeps the good name L On Sun, 20 Mar 2022, 08:24 Werner LEMBERG, wrote: > > > A

Re: Slanted Beams thickness

2022-03-25 Thread Luca Fascione
Yes but look at the took and how it's held in the hand: you won't ever get a clean line from it holding is slanted to the direction of motion, that thing is meant to be pushed straight ahead... On Fri, 25 Mar 2022, 13:19 Dan Eble, wrote: > On Mar 25, 2022, at 04:35, Luca Fascione wr

Re: Slanted Beams thickness

2022-03-25 Thread Luca Fascione
... which is what Valentin also just said. Sorry Valentin for the double up! L On Fri, 25 Mar 2022, 13:43 Luca Fascione, wrote: > Yes but look at the took and how it's held in the hand: you won't ever get > a clean line from it holding is slanted to the direction of motion, that &

Re: Slanted Beams thickness

2022-03-25 Thread Luca Fascione
Carl, If you look at the video I posted, could you explain how you see using that instrument non along its tooling direction? (Like, "diagonally" wrt cutting edge at the tip) seemd to me it would be very hard to get a straight line doing so... L On Fri, 25 Mar 2022, 13:52 Carl Sorensen, wrote:

Re: Scheme pattern for retrieving data in objects

2022-04-02 Thread Luca Fascione
ivalent function in > > Scheme. In other words, syntactic sugar keeps them from learning > > Scheme as opposed to having to learn it. > > > > Am I missing something? Is my experience unique? > > No, your experience is not unique. I think that developers and normal >

Re: Should \partial accept music instead of duration?

2022-03-20 Thread Luca Fascione
What if instead of `\upbeat` (which is weirdly named when used in the end-of-music/phrase/hymn/passage scenario) this new thing is just called `\partialMusic`? It's backward compatible, does something easy to use in some simple scenarios, leaves everything else in place for more refined use cases,

Re: Slanted Beams thickness

2022-03-25 Thread Luca Fascione
This video shows Hans Kuehner at work https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvyoKdW-Big at 4m36 shows beams being engraved, he appears to keep the instrument orthogonal to the line direction, which makes Valentin's formula appropriate to capture this process. (I love it when it goes "What happens

Re: Slanted Beams thickness

2022-03-25 Thread Luca Fascione
Sorry, forgot to say: instead of correcting with 1/cos(\theta) I wonder if correcting with 1/cos(\theta/2) would be an idea? sl2 = sl / (1+sqrt(1+sl*sl)) // tan(\theta/2) th *= sqrt(1+sl2*sl2) HTH L On Fri, Mar 25, 2022 at 9:35 AM Luca Fascione wrote: > This video shows Hans Kuehner at w

Re: C++ question on wrapper API for setting Guile fluids

2022-04-22 Thread Luca Fascione
On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 11:46 PM Jean Abou Samra wrote: > Well, the C++ and Scheme interfaces can feel different and idiomatic > in their respective languages as long as they share the same > underlying implementation. > I think this is a super important goal. In fact, I'd upgrade 'can' to

Re: C++ question on wrapper API for setting Guile fluids

2022-04-21 Thread Luca Fascione
On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 8:12 AM Jean Abou Samra wrote: > Le 21/04/2022 à 04:57, Dan Eble a écrit : > > { > >// dwc constructor calls scm_dynwind_begin () > >Dynwind_context dwc; > >scm_dynwind_fluid (fluid1, value1); > >scm_dynwind_fluid (fluid2, value2); > >

Re: C++ question on wrapper API for setting Guile fluids

2022-04-21 Thread Luca Fascione
eful stuff though) L On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 12:23 PM Dan Eble wrote: > On Apr 21, 2022, at 02:55, Luca Fascione wrote: > > > > I'd think you can up this by one, and get a cleaner looking piece of code > > if you implement scm_dynwind_fluid() as a forwarded method on your

Re: Quotes around \consists argument?

2022-04-25 Thread Luca Fascione
rting barewords. L -- Luca Fascione Distinguished Engineer - Ray Tracing - NVIDIA

Re: Quotes around \consists argument?

2022-04-25 Thread Luca Fascione
*understood, of course On Mon, 25 Apr 2022, 14:14 Luca Fascione, wrote: > Yes I underground that, I was meaning for person's mental parsers, it > helps that tokens (in an informal sense) always look the same > > L > > On Mon, 25 Apr 2022, 14:01 David Kastrup, wrote: > >

Re: Quotes around \consists argument?

2022-04-25 Thread Luca Fascione
Yes I underground that, I was meaning for person's mental parsers, it helps that tokens (in an informal sense) always look the same L On Mon, 25 Apr 2022, 14:01 David Kastrup, wrote: > Luca Fascione writes: > > > I think this is because it being an unquoted string (P

Re: GDB giving immediate segfault on LilyPond startup?

2022-05-18 Thread Luca Fascione
On Wed, May 18, 2022 at 9:59 PM Jean Abou Samra wrote: > Le 18/05/2022 à 13:54, Luca Fascione a écrit : > > > > Quoting from that page: > > [...] > > The collector will call abort if the signal > > had another cause, and there was not other han

Re: Building lilypond on osx

2022-05-20 Thread Luca Fascione
On Fri, May 20, 2022 at 4:31 PM Jonas Hahnfeld wrote: > On Thu, 2022-05-19 at 21:50 +0200, Luca Fascione wrote: > > So I can rely on the build system capturing the resolved path to > > bison during configure, like it would for CXX/CXXFLAGS? > > [...] you can s

Re: Point an Click & emacs

2022-05-21 Thread Luca Fascione
>(forward-line (1- line)) > >(forward-char pos > > > > > > (setq pdf-links-browse-uri-function > 'lilypond-pdf-links-browse-uri-function) > > 3. Open a lilypond generated pdf with \PointAndClickOn and click away. > > > > The code might need some refining but it does work here quite well. > > Immanuel > > > Hello, > > What kind of answer to this post do you await? > > Best, > Jean > > > -- Luca Fascione

Re: RFC on MR 1368

2022-05-25 Thread Luca Fascione
There! Thanks Aaron! L On Wed, 25 May 2022, 15:34 Aaron Hill, wrote: > On 2022-05-25 1:31 am, Luca Fascione wrote: > > (*) is there really no way to cross reference/link a commit comment > > from > > gitlab? gah. > > The post's relative time (e.g. "9 hours ago&

Re: PATCHES - Countdown to May 26

2022-05-25 Thread Luca Fascione
to download a Python > > 3.10.4 from the Microsoft Store, onto a tablet running Win 10. > > > > Yes, the script requires the requests package, which > is not part of the Python standard library. This > should probably do: > > python -m pip install --user requests > > Jean > > > > -- Luca Fascione

Re: Guile 3.0

2022-05-22 Thread Luca Fascione
On Sun, May 22, 2022 at 9:05 PM Jonas Hahnfeld wrote: > On Sun, 2022-05-22 at 20:14 +0200, Luca Fascione wrote: > > So at the cost of rocking the cage a bit hard, I came asking the > > uncomfortable question: > > what would happen if (for this unique circumstance) we'd

Re: Guile 3.0

2022-05-22 Thread Luca Fascione
etely? > > Current LilyPond master works with Guile 3.0. > > That's essentially all. I wasn't sure of that from the discussion and > from what I remembered from previous exchanges. > > > Do you want to add it to the CI? > > I am afraid that I am not tracking the development of Guile and the CI > resources of LilyPond well enough to venture any opinion that would be > more qualified than that of the current developers. > > -- > David Kastrup > > -- Luca Fascione

Re: Guile 3.0

2022-05-22 Thread Luca Fascione
rue current, but we'd have to patch it, then again we'd be in a position where we _can_ patch it. So at the cost of rocking the cage a bit hard, I came asking the uncomfortable question: what would happen if (for this unique circumstance) we'd do what one would normally consider poor practice? L -- Luca Fascione

Re: Guile 3.0

2022-05-23 Thread Luca Fascione
noying for maintainers and CI, both of which I completely agree would be undesirable burdens. Cheers, L -- Luca Fascione

Re: Guile 3.0

2022-05-23 Thread Luca Fascione
This also makes a lot of sense to me, yes. L On Mon, 23 May 2022, 13:12 Jean Abou Samra, wrote: > > > Le 22/05/2022 à 21:52, Luca Fascione a écrit : > > > > On Sun, May 22, 2022 at 9:05 PM Jonas Hahnfeld wrote: > > > > On Sun, 2022-05-22 at 20:14 +0200,

Re: RFC on MR 1368

2022-05-25 Thread Luca Fascione
ion where to > > add kerning data. I want to hear more opinions whether I should go > > 'route one' (which I prefer) or 'route two' (which Jonas prefers). > > > > Please have a look at MR 1368 > > > > https://gitlab.com/lilypond/lilypond/-/merge_requests/1368 > > > > and chime in. > > > > > > Werner > > > > > -- > Han-Wen Nienhuys - hanw...@gmail.com - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen > > -- Luca Fascione

Re: Nested segno and volta repeats

2022-05-29 Thread Luca Fascione
Oh yes. I was taught aaba as well, definitely. Sorry, somehow I heard you were saying you'd read it aab, you see L On Sun, 29 May 2022, 13:33 Thomas Morley, wrote: > Am So., 29. Mai 2022 um 13:25 Uhr schrieb Luca Fascione < > l.fasci...@gmail.com>: > > > > What

Re: Nested segno and volta repeats

2022-05-29 Thread Luca Fascione
What do you mean Thomas? When the sheet clearly indicates DC al Fine (Da Capo, from the beginning) why would it be normal to ignore such an explicit direction? I wasn't aware of \repeat segno, neat thing, I've always had to do it by hand with cadenza trickeries... L On Sun, 29 May 2022, 10:45

Re: Building lilypond on osx

2022-05-19 Thread Luca Fascione
18:18 /usr/local/opt/guile@2 -> ../Cellar/guile@2/2.2.7_1 lrwxr-xr-x 1 x x 21 Feb 27 18:37 /usr/local/opt/guile@3 -> ../Cellar/guile/3.0.8 ) Where is the testing/detection for Guile set up, roughly? Thanks again, L -- Luca Fascione

Building lilypond on osx

2022-05-19 Thread Luca Fascione
to pass to configure I was wondering what the recommended approach is to tell the current build system to use (for example) /usr/local/Cellar/bison/3.8.2/bin/bison in lieu of /usr/bin/bison (I also need to repoint flex and maybe gettext, gettext is strange) Thanks for your help Luca -- Luca

Re: GDB giving immediate segfault on LilyPond startup?

2022-05-18 Thread Luca Fascione
; Hi, > > > > After upgrading to Ubuntu 22.04 LTS, I can no longer use GDB > > with LilyPond, although it runs fine outside of GDB. > > [...] > > > Thanks to private replies, I have learnt that this is apparently > expected, and it works to type "continue" when this segfault > appears. > > > -- Luca Fascione

Re: Should we be touching goops?

2022-06-05 Thread Luca Fascione
5 Jun 2022, 16:42 David Kastrup, wrote: > Luca Fascione writes: > > > On Sun, Jun 5, 2022 at 2:12 PM Jean Abou Samra > wrote: > > > >> As David already said, the part of LilyPond we're discussing is using > >> rationals. Furthermore, (a + b) + c being c

Re: Should we be touching goops?

2022-06-05 Thread Luca Fascione
as possible, it seems it's good that decision are carefully analyzed, so we keep the thing as a whole cleaner and easier to grow. I won't hide that I enjoy discussing design matters in Computer Science :-) L -- Luca Fascione

Re: Should we be touching goops?

2022-06-05 Thread Luca Fascione
out it causes significant savings. The > order of the most worthy optimizations is more high-level. > Yes, that'd be my expectation too. I think we all agree that these are good things in > any software projects. The question is whether a > given change will contribute enough to the

Re: Should we be touching goops?

2022-06-05 Thread Luca Fascione
On Sun, 5 Jun 2022, 17:39 David Kastrup, wrote: > Luca Fascione writes: > > > Oh yes absolutely, the growth is normally much slower than worse case > > unless the addends come from really weird-ass distributions, no doubt. > > Round to even helps a lot with that > &

Re: Should we be touching goops?

2022-06-04 Thread Luca Fascione
to you? Cheers L -- Luca Fascione

Re: Should we be touching goops?

2022-06-04 Thread Luca Fascione
s. Leaving it to the compiler to find bugs for you is table stakes, it'll only find the easy stuff anyways. That should be your assumed starting point, not your goal: your goal is attending to the community that does what's hard, so that you make it less hard. HTH, L [1] https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2005/05/11/making-wrong-code-look-wrong -- Luca Fascione

Re: Point an Click & emacs

2022-05-22 Thread Luca Fascione
Maybe we could see if we can rope Immanuel to contribute a short segment to the user docs? L On Sun, 22 May 2022, 14:17 Jean Abou Samra, wrote: > Le 21/05/2022 à 22:38, Luca Fascione a écrit : > > Jean, I think this is a BWV1079... > > > :-) > > If the goal is t

Re: Building lilypond on osx

2022-05-22 Thread Luca Fascione
, wrote: > Le 21/05/2022 à 07:49, Luca Fascione a écrit : > > I do follow the rationale for shipping one of the sets, what I'm > > confused about is why _both_, they're the same font set, afaiu > > (semantically, at least) > > > > Cf. > > commit 500febd2a5fe0ebdf0

Re: Fonts missing in development environment

2022-07-27 Thread Luca Fascione
://gitlab.com/lilypond/lilypond/-/blob/master/docker/base/Dockerfile.ubuntu-18.04 > > The build passes with it everyday, so it’s guaranteed to work. > > Either you use Docker, or you look at the list of packages it installs and > mimick it. > > Best, > Jean > > -- Luca Fascione

Re: Fonts missing in development environment

2022-07-27 Thread Luca Fascione
for your system Cheers L On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 8:29 AM Luca Fascione wrote: > Hi Walter, > here's a couple more direct pointers for you: > > The TeX fonts (Gyre) will be in a place like > > .../texmf-dist/opentype/public/tex-gyre/texgyreschola-regular.otf > > the '

Re: LSR and Documentation/snippets/new

2022-05-07 Thread Luca Fascione
Fwiw, I like it, there's all sorts of weird edge cases in there that on occasion are quite handy L On Sat, 7 May 2022, 11:45 Sebastiano Vigna, wrote: > > > On 7 May 2022, at 09:30, Jean Abou Samra wrote: > > > > - What is the LSR's bus factor? As far as I can see, 1, > > since while

Re: Replacing fixcc.py with clang-format?

2022-09-06 Thread Luca Fascione
Side thought: if your CPP code is complex, indenting it helps readability a lot, here's a goofy example #if CONDITION # define AMACRO 6 # include "some/file.h" #else # if WIN32 #include "something/else.h" # elif MACOSX #include "the/darwin/version.h" # endif #endif I haven't seen

Re: MacOS release help

2022-10-18 Thread Luca Fascione
Besides whereas Frescobaldi is a Lilypond editor (thereby requires is and depends on it), Lilypond is not a Frescobaldi compiler, they're not dependent in the other direction. So the Lilypond installer shouldn't know about Frescobaldi Further, a package with no GUI elements doesn't bump me at

Re: MacOS release help

2022-10-18 Thread Luca Fascione
I agree strongly with this, yes On Tue, 18 Oct 2022, 18:14 Jean Abou Samra, wrote: > Le 18/10/2022 à 08:12, Alex Harker a écrit : > > > > > >> On 18 Oct 2022, at 00:05, Carl Sorensen > >> wrote: > >> > >> IMO, what we most want is an app bundle that can be easily relocated > >> anywhere and

Re: Potential LSR licensing violations

2022-10-20 Thread Luca Fascione
On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 1:47 PM Jean Abou Samra wrote: > > Le 20/10/2022 12:59 CEST, Luca Fascione a écrit : > > I think having GPL content in the lsr is the least desirable in the long > term, because either folks using it won't notice, or they might find > themselves u

Re: Potential LSR licensing violations

2022-10-21 Thread Luca Fascione
On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 1:00 PM Jean Abou Samra wrote: > Le 20/10/2022 à 15:46, Luca Fascione a écrit : > > To be clear: the potential issue I see is when the score or some of > > the headers it includes are GPL licensed, of course. > > Now of course the boundary between

Re: Potential LSR licensing violations

2022-10-20 Thread Luca Fascione
. Cee, and he hereby placed in the public domain". Disclaimer: Although I have been part of extensive discussions on this topic, I am not a lawyer, and my words do not constitute legal advice. L -- Luca Fascione

Re: Potential LSR licensing violations

2022-10-20 Thread Luca Fascione
the project managers and owners to try and insulate the contributors from potential unpleasantness. I repeat my disclaimer: Although I have been part of extensive discussions on this topic, I am not a lawyer, and my words do not constitute legal advice. Luca -- Luca Fascione

Re: Potential LSR licensing violations

2022-10-20 Thread Luca Fascione
Or you remove it, or you reimplement it I think having GPL content in the lsr is the least desirable in the long term, because either folks using it won't notice, or they might find themselves unable or unwilling to use GPL as part of their content. I'm not clear what it means to have GPL source

Re: Potential LSR licensing violations

2022-10-20 Thread Luca Fascione
going, is it? One thing that seems certain to me is that doing nothing guarantees there will be no change. L -- Luca Fascione

Re: Potential LSR licensing violations

2022-10-20 Thread Luca Fascione
9 CEST, Luca Fascione a écrit : > > > > > > Or you remove it, or you reimplement it > > > Well yes. > > > > I think having GPL content in the lsr is the least desirable in the long > term, because either folks using it won't notice, or they might find >

Re: Potential LSR licensing violations

2022-10-20 Thread Luca Fascione
On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 1:56 PM Luca Fascione wrote: > Hum. It seems to me this is greyer that what you say. > > gcc transforms program.c into a.out > > Your access to a.out gives you rights to access program.c > > s/gcc/lilypond/; s/program.c/score.ly/; s/a.out/out.pdf/;

Re: Missing items to make Cairo ready

2023-01-01 Thread Luca Fascione
n 1, 2023 at 8:19 PM Jean Abou Samra wrote: > Le 01/01/2023 à 19:30, Luca Fascione a écrit : > > Also, how does ImageMagick implement PS to PNG conversion? > > Through Ghostscript, just like LilyPond does now. > -- Luca Fascione

Re: Missing items to make Cairo ready

2023-01-01 Thread Luca Fascione
ll a user control it? L -- Luca Fascione

Re: The hel-arabic.ly file story...

2023-01-13 Thread Luca Fascione
signatures for the various maqams simply go only into > hel-arabic.ly > (if not modified, as recently proposed) > If you want examples I can provide them. > This is why I did not want to link hel-arabic.ly to arabic.ly > Best regard > > -- Luca Fascione

Re: The hel-arabic.ly file story...

2023-01-13 Thread Luca Fascione
with the old name which warns of the deprecation and includes the new file, to maintain compatibility. I'll now stop saying things everybody else already knows. L -- Luca Fascione

Re: The hel-arabic.ly file story...

2023-01-13 Thread Luca Fascione
po, it seems like we could easily find a better name for this file, more descriptive of its purpose and less related to the original author. L -- Luca Fascione

Re: Missing items to make Cairo ready

2023-01-07 Thread Luca Fascione
s your proposal to implement \epsfile by using gs to render EPS into a PNG, and embed that into the resulting PDF. I seem to have misunderstood something you said. L -- Luca Fascione

Re: Missing items to make Cairo ready

2023-01-07 Thread Luca Fascione
by the packages, arguably, at least in LaTeX). L -- Luca Fascione

Re: The hel-arabic.ly file story...

2023-01-11 Thread Luca Fascione
Hassan: Even if self sufficient was a good goal (sometimes it is, some times it isn't) it should be achieved by inclusion of other content, in this case probably arabic.ly, so that fixes only need to happen in one place. The objection here is to the duplication of the code, not to the

Re: Missing items to make Cairo ready

2023-01-01 Thread Luca Fascione
What if you use GS to do PS to PDF instead and embed that? Would Cairo let you? (For the PDF backend I mean) Also, how does ImageMagick implement PS to PNG conversion? I wonder if their approach might inspire us, or whether having an optional dependency would be an idea to consider (if you have

Re: Prefer luatex for documentation

2022-11-20 Thread Luca Fascione
moderately recent TeX distribution. Sorry for spreading misinformation L On Sun, Nov 20, 2022 at 6:28 AM Werner LEMBERG wrote: > > > Luatex is always available with modern tex distros (say at least 5 > > yrs probably more). In fact pdftex _is_ luatex... > > ??? Definitely not. > > > -- Luca Fascione

Re: Prefer luatex for documentation

2022-11-21 Thread Luca Fascione
On Mon, 21 Nov 2022, 13:34 Jean Abou Samra, wrote: > > build problems are fixed by developers, not users, sometimes very > painfully, and using time that they could spend on other tasks. > If Werner's change breaks the build, surely he'll be the first one to argue it's on him to fix it

Re: Prefer luatex for documentation, Re: Prefer luatex for documentation

2022-11-21 Thread Luca Fascione
dling, it often makes sense to > replace `pdftex` with `xetex` or `luatex` since the latter two > programs usually produce *much* smaller PDF files. > > > Werner > > -- Luca Fascione

Re: Prefer luatex for documentation

2022-11-21 Thread Luca Fascione
Sorry, luatex is like 10yrs old, what's the need for xetex again? Maybe I could justify pdftex (I really don't quite see it, but maybe) but xetex seems just arbitrary... Or do you mean for a transition period? What's the oldest system that this Lilypond would be used on? What's the youngest

Re: Prefer luatex for documentation

2022-11-29 Thread Luca Fascione
Question: I would have thought locales would be a) largely present, b) small and easy to install as dependencies, like many other dependencies we have (and substantially less prone to change than any software dependency) Where does the concern with locales not being available on a system come

Re: Prefer luatex for documentation

2022-11-29 Thread Luca Fascione
I'd have thought au jour d'ui 227MB qualifies as small, no? It's averaging at 500kB/package which is bigger than I thought (I'd have thought more like 50k tops, tbh) but it seems like it'd be a relatively manageable size for a one-off setup... A compiler or browser release or a couple weeks worth

Re: Prefer luatex for documentation

2022-11-29 Thread Luca Fascione
That last statement is terrifying. Is it sustainable to build a 2D dictionary keyed by platform and a name of our choosing for the locale to use as a map and fill it gradually as we discover new holes? Or would it be too much hassle? I'm thinking new platforms or new translations are events that

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