Re: Pedal cautionary after a line break (current status and improvements)

2020-06-26 Thread David Rogers
Paolo Prete writes: On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 6:00 PM Jean Abou Samra wrote: So, in order to produce a concrete result, at least the point 2) should be accepted / understood. This is what I tried to do, but the thread seems to go in the opposite way.

Re: Pedal cautionary after a line break (current status and improvements)

2020-06-26 Thread Paolo Prete
On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 2:25 AM David Rogers wrote: > Paolo Prete writes: > > > On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 6:00 PM Jean Abou Samra > > > > wrote: > > > > So, in order to produce a concrete result, at least the > > point > > 2) should be accepted / understood. This is what

Re: Pedal cautionary after a line break (current status and improvements)

2020-06-26 Thread Paolo Prete
On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 10:35 AM Valentin Villenave wrote: > On 6/25/20, Paolo Prete wrote: > > The lack of a cautionary pedal on a bracket could be seen as an > enhancement > > only in a self-referential context, which doesn't make sense to me. A > > proper way to proceed is to check what

Re: Pedal cautionary after a line break (current status and improvements)

2020-06-26 Thread Valentin Villenave
On 6/25/20, Paolo Prete wrote: > The lack of a cautionary pedal on a bracket could be seen as an enhancement > only in a self-referential context, which doesn't make sense to me. A > proper way to proceed is to check what modern professional engravers do > with it, and check as a consequence if

Re: Pedal cautionary after a line break (current status and improvements)

2020-06-25 Thread Paolo Prete
On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 6:00 PM Jean Abou Samra wrote: > So, in order to produce a concrete result, at least the point 2) should be > accepted / understood. This is what I tried to do, but the thread seems to > go in the opposite way. This is why I think that opening a ticket would be > unuseful

Re: Pedal cautionary after a line break (current status and improvements)

2020-06-25 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Hi Paolo, Le 25/06/2020 à 16:10, Paolo Prete a écrit : On Thursday, June 25, 2020, Jean Abou Samra > wrote: Hi Paolo, I still highly encourage you to fill an issue at https://gitlab.com/lilypond/lilypond/-/issues

Re: Pedal cautionary after a line break (current status and improvements)

2020-06-25 Thread Paolo Prete
On Thursday, June 25, 2020, Jean Abou Samra wrote: > Le 25/06/2020 à 00:58, Paolo Prete a écrit : > > Hi Harm, > > Then Pierre, who is the creator of the snippet and joined this thread, will > decide what to do. > > Best, > P > > Hi Paolo, > > I still highly encourage you to fill an issue at >

Re: Pedal cautionary after a line break (current status and improvements)

2020-06-25 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Le 25/06/2020 à 00:58, Paolo Prete a écrit : Hi Harm, Then Pierre, who is the creator of the snippet and joined this thread, will decide what to do. Best, P Hi Paolo, I still highly encourage you to fill an issue at https://gitlab.com/lilypond/lilypond/-/issues

Re: Pedal cautionary after a line break (current status and improvements)

2020-06-24 Thread Paolo Prete
On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 10:53 PM Thomas Morley wrote: > Am Di., 23. Juni 2020 um 20:33 Uhr schrieb Paolo Prete < > paolopr...@gmail.com>: > > > > On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 6:36 PM Pierre Perol-Schneider > > A this point: > > > > 1) I gently ask Harm (is Harm the snippet's maintainer ? ) to update

Re: Pedal cautionary after a line break (current status and improvements)

2020-06-24 Thread Thomas Morley
Am Di., 23. Juni 2020 um 20:33 Uhr schrieb Paolo Prete : > > On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 6:36 PM Pierre Perol-Schneider > A this point: > > 1) I gently ask Harm (is Harm the snippet's maintainer ? ) to update the > snippet at least by adding a warning (--> something like "no midi is > produced") Hi

Re: Pedal cautionary after a line break (current status and improvements)

2020-06-23 Thread Paolo Prete
On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 10:26 PM Carl Sorensen wrote: > On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 2:18 PM Paolo Prete wrote: > > > > > > (Also in response to Carl) > > In Italy, we call this approach "fare la morale". > > C's answer made P's words look like: > > > > "Hey, please develop this for me." And the

Re: Pedal cautionary after a line break (current status and improvements)

2020-06-23 Thread Paolo Prete
On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 10:32 PM Kieren MacMillan < kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca> wrote: > Hi Paolo, > > > I don't understand what you mean exactly, in the choral pieces. > > A cappella choral pieces don’t include piano music, and therefore don’t > include any piano pedal markings, and therefore

Re: Pedal cautionary after a line break (current status and improvements)

2020-06-23 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Paolo, > I don't understand what you mean exactly, in the choral pieces. A cappella choral pieces don’t include piano music, and therefore don’t include any piano pedal markings, and therefore don’t use or need the feature you’re describing — therefore, they are one of the [uncountable!]

Re: Pedal cautionary after a line break (current status and improvements)

2020-06-23 Thread Carl Sorensen
On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 2:18 PM Paolo Prete wrote: > > > > (Also in response to Carl) > In Italy, we call this approach "fare la morale". > C's answer made P's words look like: > > "Hey, please develop this for me." And the answer was, more or less (---> do > the moral): > "If you want it to

Re: Pedal cautionary after a line break (current status and improvements)

2020-06-23 Thread Paolo Prete
On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 10:13 PM Kieren MacMillan < kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca> wrote: > Hi Paolo, > > > This issue is not *important for me*. It is an *essential* feature for > any score. > > At best, one could argue that it‘s "an essential feature" for any score > with multiple pedal

Re: Pedal cautionary after a line break (current status and improvements)

2020-06-23 Thread Paolo Prete
On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 9:53 PM Jean Abou Samra wrote: > Paolo, > > > I really think Carl did not intend to be harsh. He even explicitely tried > to > avoid making you taking it as an offence: > > > I'm trying not to be mean in this answer, but to explain the way > > LilyPond development works.

Re: Pedal cautionary after a line break (current status and improvements)

2020-06-23 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Paolo, > This issue is not *important for me*. It is an *essential* feature for any > score. At best, one could argue that it‘s "an essential feature" for any score with multiple pedal spanners [of different types] that cross line breaks. It’s demonstrably false that it’s "an essential

Re: Pedal cautionary after a line break (current status and improvements)

2020-06-23 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Paolo, Le 23/06/2020 à 21:32, Paolo Prete a écrit : On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 9:09 PM Carl Sorensen wrote: Paolo, On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 12:33 PM Paolo Prete wrote: 2) Considering that a Pedal cautionary is *essential* in *every* serious score, I really encourage the developers to fix

Re: Pedal cautionary after a line break (current status and improvements)

2020-06-23 Thread Carl Sorensen
On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 1:32 PM Paolo Prete wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 9:09 PM Carl Sorensen > wrote: >> >> Paolo, >> >> On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 12:33 PM Paolo Prete wrote: >> > >> >> > >> > 2) Considering that a Pedal cautionary is *essential* in *every* serious >> > score, I

Re: Pedal cautionary after a line break (current status and improvements)

2020-06-23 Thread Paolo Prete
On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 9:32 PM Jean Abou Samra wrote: > Hi Paolo, > > Le 23/06/2020 à 21:09, Carl Sorensen a écrit : > > Paolo, > > > > On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 12:33 PM Paolo Prete > wrote: > >> 2) Considering that a Pedal cautionary is *essential* in *every* serious > >> score, I really

Re: Pedal cautionary after a line break (current status and improvements)

2020-06-23 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Hi Paolo, Le 23/06/2020 à 21:09, Carl Sorensen a écrit : Paolo, On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 12:33 PM Paolo Prete wrote: 2) Considering that a Pedal cautionary is *essential* in *every* serious score, I really encourage the developers to fix this in the development branch. I forward this post to

Re: Pedal cautionary after a line break (current status and improvements)

2020-06-23 Thread Paolo Prete
On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 9:09 PM Carl Sorensen wrote: > Paolo, > > On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 12:33 PM Paolo Prete wrote: > > > > > > > 2) Considering that a Pedal cautionary is *essential* in *every* serious > > score, I really encourage the developers to fix this in the development > > branch. I

Re: Pedal cautionary after a line break (current status and improvements)

2020-06-23 Thread Carl Sorensen
Paolo, On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 12:33 PM Paolo Prete wrote: > > > 2) Considering that a Pedal cautionary is *essential* in *every* serious > score, I really encourage the developers to fix this in the development > branch. I forward this post to the devel ml. There is no way to "encourage the

Re: Pedal cautionary after a line break (current status and improvements)

2020-06-23 Thread Paolo Prete
On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 6:36 PM Pierre Perol-Schneider < pierre.schneider.pa...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Paolo, > See: http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=1023 > Cheers, > PIerre > > Hi Pierre, I already saw your workaround but, as said in the previous email, it has unwanted side effects. The