Re: Footnotes to lyrics

2013-02-27 Thread David Kastrup
Daniel Rosen drose...@gmail.com writes: -Original Message- From: David Kastrup [mailto:d...@gnu.org] Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 7:24 PM To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: Footnotes to lyrics Daniel Rosen drose...@gmail.com writes: At

Re: Advocating non-free softwares

2013-02-27 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 1:21 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Those who don't care will not actively help Free Software including LilyPond, so it is in LilyPond's best interest to make them care. Which is not necessarily the same as annoying them. But it is also not the same as hiding

Re: Advocating non-free softwares

2013-02-27 Thread Joseph Rushton Wakeling
On 02/27/2013 11:41 AM, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: I am and have been ambivalent about being part of the GNU project. It has come with a lot of harping about how we should say things (like insisting on naming Linux as GNU/Linux), with little in return. At the risk of opening up a can of worms,

Re: change barline type with time signature change

2013-02-27 Thread Jan-Peter Voigt
Hi Kieren, hi David K., applyContext is good for doing somethind conditionally anywhere in the music stream: cond = ##t mod = \with { \override NoteHead #'color = #red } \relative c' { c4 e g b \applyContext #(lambda (context) (if cond (ly:context-mod-apply! context mod))) c a f d c1 }

Re: change barline type with time signature change

2013-02-27 Thread David Kastrup
Jan-Peter Voigt jp.vo...@gmx.de writes: Hi Kieren, hi David K., applyContext is good for doing somethind conditionally anywhere in the music stream: cond = ##t mod = \with { \override NoteHead #'color = #red } \relative c' { c4 e g b \applyContext #(lambda (context) (if cond

Re: change barline type with time signature change

2013-02-27 Thread Jan-Peter Voigt
Am 27.02.2013 12:45, schrieb David Kastrup: Jan-Peter Voigt jp.vo...@gmx.de writes: Hi Kieren, hi David K., applyContext is good for doing somethind conditionally anywhere in the music stream: cond = ##t mod = \with { \override NoteHead #'color = #red } \relative c' { c4 e g b

Re: Advocating non-free softwares

2013-02-27 Thread David Kastrup
Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca writes: David, Then it would seem that many of us have forgotten what brought LilyPond to them in the first place. No — some of us just have a sense of balance and tolerance. Sounds to me like the fair is foul and foul is fair idea of balance

Re: Advocating non-free softwares

2013-02-27 Thread James Harkins
Han-Wen Nienhuys hanwenn at gmail.com writes: Our mission has always been to provide excellent music notation in a free software package to as many people as possible, including those using windows and macs. We have no business doing ideological advocacy, and frankly, the original message

Re: Advocating non-free softwares

2013-02-27 Thread Kieren MacMillan
James, If we must spend energy on advocacy, let's work on gaining wider use of Lilypond in the music business. Precisely. Thank you for injecting some sense-ful commentary in an increasingly sense-less thread. Best, Kieren. ___ lilypond-user

Re: Advocating non-free softwares

2013-02-27 Thread Kieren MacMillan
David, tolerant is not the same as stanceless. Agreed. And taking a stance is not the same as driving potential users away with your senseless bigotry, and bothering existing users with your poor communication skills. But that is all semantics. Forbidding people to discuss what that means

RE: Footnotes to lyrics

2013-02-27 Thread Daniel Rosen
-Original Message- From: David Kastrup [mailto:d...@gnu.org] Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 5:24 AM To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: Footnotes to lyrics Conversion to 2.17.13 (what I have here) leaves this unchanged. The error message is a different one, though. I can

Re: Horns example from blog

2013-02-27 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi, On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 6:34 AM, Jim Long lilyp...@ns.umpquanet.com wrote: Thanks for this tip, and also to Xavier for mentioning \partcombine. It simplified the code nicely. I modified the combined trombone score to show all four parts on one staff. The code looks much cleaner now.

Re: Advocating non-free softwares

2013-02-27 Thread David Kastrup
Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca writes: David, tolerant is not the same as stanceless. Agreed. And taking a stance is not the same as driving potential users away with your senseless bigotry, and bothering existing users with your poor communication skills. But that is all

Re: Footnotes to lyrics

2013-02-27 Thread David Kastrup
Daniel Rosen drose...@gmail.com writes: -Original Message- From: David Kastrup [mailto:d...@gnu.org] Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 5:24 AM To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: Footnotes to lyrics Conversion to 2.17.13 (what I have here) leaves this unchanged. The error

Re: Advocating non-free softwares

2013-02-27 Thread Kieren MacMillan
I suggest rereading the thread in context, taking note about who wrote what, and then checking your summary to be accurate, fair and matched in style to all those contributing to the thread that have ventured an opinion differing from yours. Done. And it didn't change my opinion that some

Re: Advocating non-free softwares

2013-02-27 Thread David Kastrup
Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca writes: I suggest rereading the thread in context, taking note about who wrote what, and then checking your summary to be accurate, fair and matched in style to all those contributing to the thread that have ventured an opinion differing from

RE: Footnotes to lyrics

2013-02-27 Thread Daniel Rosen
-Original Message- From: David Kastrup [mailto:d...@gnu.org] Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 9:03 AM To: Daniel Rosen Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: Footnotes to lyrics Phooey. I assume that Lyric was supposed to be the text of the lyrics, right? Correct. Then the

Re: Footnotes to lyrics

2013-02-27 Thread David Kastrup
Daniel Rosen drose...@gmail.com writes: -Original Message- From: David Kastrup [mailto:d...@gnu.org] Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 9:03 AM To: Daniel Rosen Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: Footnotes to lyrics Phooey. I assume that Lyric was supposed to be the text of

removing identical staves

2013-02-27 Thread Helge Kruse
I there, I am typesetting a piece for a small orchestra. There ares voice for the violas and cellos too. These violas play unisono for the first five pages. Then suddenly they play very different voices. I am reluctant to add a Viola I staff and a viola II staff to the whole score. The

Re: removing identical staves

2013-02-27 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: Helge Kruse helge.kr...@gmx.net To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 5:43 PM Subject: removing identical staves I there, I am typesetting a piece for a small orchestra. There ares voice for the violas and cellos too. These violas play

Re: removing identical staves

2013-02-27 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Helge, Your problem is very similar to one that I will face [again] soon: I will be engraving a choir piece of mine in which there are S+A+T+B sections, SA+TB sections, and SATB (choral unison) sections. During that process, I'm hoping to perfect the methods available in Lilypond to handle

Re: Footnotes to lyrics

2013-02-27 Thread wjm
Greetings, From the NR LilyPond version 2.17.13 +++ Known issues and warnings Multiple footnotes for the same page can only be stacked, one above the other; they cannot be printed on the same line. Footnotes cannot be attached to MultiMeasureRests or automatic beams or lyrics. Footnote

Instrument switching with a new staff - possible?

2013-02-27 Thread SoundsFromSound
Good afternoon everyone, I was attempting to engrave this piece today and I've hit a bit of a roadblock. Essentially what I'm supposed to do is have the piano break away from it's normal grand staff for many measures (15+). Then change to a percussion 1-line staff to notate the various

Re: Output PDF has different chord font than expected

2013-02-27 Thread Federico Bruni
Il 27/02/2013 20:29, mayornancy ha scritto: After compiling the following Chord example found at: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/input/lsr/lilypond-snippets/Chords#Single-staff-template-with-notes-and-chords my result PDF chord symbols are using a very different font than the example output

Re: Instrument switching with a new staff - possible?

2013-02-27 Thread Nathan
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 12:47 PM, SoundsFromSound soundsfromso...@gmail.com wrote: Good afternoon everyone, I was attempting to engrave this piece today and I've hit a bit of a roadblock. Essentially what I'm supposed to do is have the piano break away from it's normal grand staff for

Re: Advocating non-free softwares [WAS: Heads up about Frescobaldi Ubuntu - Insert Menu Glitch]

2013-02-27 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Jan Nieuwenhuizen writes: No idea... I just begun to use the last realease of frescobaldi under [a freedom-limiting operating system] and this is just fantastic. [..] Could you please be more aware and more careful about advocating the use of non-free operating systems? I have read this

Re: Instrument switching with a new staff - possible?

2013-02-27 Thread Eluze
SoundsFromSound wrote Good afternoon everyone, I was attempting to engrave this piece today and I've hit a bit of a roadblock. Essentially what I'm supposed to do is have the piano break away from it's normal grand staff for many measures (15+). Then change to a percussion 1-line

can compressibility be set to zero?

2013-02-27 Thread Kieren MacMillan
[Lilypond v2.17.13] Hello all! Is there a way to guarantee that the space between two contexts cannot be compressed beyond #'minimum-distance? I have a book where there's still compressible space between socres, and between staves within those scores, but I don't want my ScoreMarks context

Re: Temporarily removing bracket from staff groups

2013-02-27 Thread Thomas Morley
2013/2/20 Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@googlemail.com: 2013/2/19 Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk: Thomas Morley wrote Tuesday, February 19, 2013 9:29 PM There were some similiar requests in the past, perhaps I should write a LSR-snippet or is it worth to be included in the source-docs?

Re: removing identical staves

2013-02-27 Thread Xavier Scheuer
On 27 February 2013 19:37, Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca wrote: Hi Helge, Your problem is very similar to one that I will face [again] soon: I will be engraving a choir piece of mine in which there are S+A+T+B sections, SA+TB sections, and SATB (choral unison) sections.

Re: Instrument switching with a new staff - possible?

2013-02-27 Thread SoundsFromSound
Thanks to both of your for the brainstorming! I really appreciate you taking the time to help me. Yes, I will most certainly share my findings with you all once I figure it all out! :) I'll trying both those suggestions now, I'll post how it goes asap. Ben Eluze wrote SoundsFromSound

Re: Instrument switching with a new staff - possible?

2013-02-27 Thread SoundsFromSound
Nathan: Wow, that comes out amazingly in LilyPond when I render it - how did you know how to do all that? Damn, I wish I could be that savvy :) It's not *essential* that the line be centered, I was just trying to make this as neat on the eyes as possible - it's absolutely FINE if it must stay up

Re: Instrument switching with a new staff - possible?

2013-02-27 Thread SoundsFromSound
Eluze: Oh wow, you got it centered too?? You guys are too smart here :) Thank you thank you - how exactly did you do that? Drum mode? Eluze wrote SoundsFromSound wrote Good afternoon everyone, I was attempting to engrave this piece today and I've hit a bit of a roadblock.

Re: Output PDF has different chord font than expected

2013-02-27 Thread mayornancy
Federico, Thanks for your suggestion. I downloaded and installed the font families from your screenshot (all 3 were missing from my PC), but this has not solved the problem. I can reproduce the same font problem on a second PC (running Win7 x64). Any other ideas? Greg

Single Whole Measure Rest vs compressed MMR (WAS: Issue 3208 Wrong MultiMeasureRest glyph)

2013-02-27 Thread Xavier Scheuer
On 27 February 2013 18:13, lilyp...@googlecode.com wrote: Comment #1 on issue 3208 by philehol...@googlemail.com: Wrong MultiMeasureRest glyph http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=3208 OK - let's just be clear about what the bug is. Lilypond does the right thing (TM) for

Re: Output PDF has different chord font than expected

2013-02-27 Thread Xavier Scheuer
On 27 February 2013 20:29, mayornancy mayorna...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello, I am using lilypond (2.16.2) on Windows7 SP1 in portable mode (I simply extracted the installer to a folder). After compiling the following Chord example found at:

Re: Footnotes to lyrics

2013-02-27 Thread Trevor Daniels
wjm wrote Wednesday, February 27, 2013 7:34 PM From the NR LilyPond version 2.17.13 +++ Known issues and warnings Footnotes cannot be attached to MultiMeasureRests or automatic beams or lyrics. Yes; when I documented the footnote command I failed to find a way of adding a footnote

Re: Single Whole Measure Rest vs compressed MMR (WAS: Issue 3208 Wrong MultiMeasureRest glyph)

2013-02-27 Thread Thomas Morley
2013/2/28 Xavier Scheuer x.sche...@gmail.com: On 27 February 2013 18:13, lilyp...@googlecode.com wrote: Comment #1 on issue 3208 by philehol...@googlemail.com: Wrong MultiMeasureRest glyph http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=3208 OK - let's just be clear about what the bug

Re: Horns example from blog

2013-02-27 Thread Jim Long
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 02:56:45PM +0100, Janek Warcho?? wrote: Yes, it's a nice example and i wouldn't hesitate to post it in that discussion. I don't see it there; would you like me to post it? Thanks for your kind comments. Yes, you may post it if you like. Word the post yourself of

Re: Instrument switching with a new staff - possible?

2013-02-27 Thread Nathan
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 3:24 PM, SoundsFromSound soundsfromso...@gmail.comwrote: Nathan: Wow, that comes out amazingly in LilyPond when I render it - how did you know how to do all that? Damn, I wish I could be that savvy :) It's not *essential* that the line be centered, I was just trying

Re: Single Whole Measure Rest vs compressed MMR (WAS: Issue 3208 Wrong MultiMeasureRest glyph)

2013-02-27 Thread Thomas Morley
2013/2/28 Xavier Scheuer x.sche...@gmail.com: I sometimes wanted different horizontal space settings for single Whole Measure Rest and real multimeasure rests a.k.a compressed MMR (with a number above). Hi again. BTW, you could print the MultiMeasureRestNumber on a single Whole Measure Rest,

Re: Hushing up Sibelius news?

2013-02-27 Thread Adam Spiers
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 5:22 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Adam Spiers lilypond-u...@adamspiers.org writes: I just blogged about this: http://blog.adamspiers.org/2013/02/25/music-industry-learns-nothing-from-the-avid-sibelius-saga/ Well, I see some fatally flawed assumptions here,

RE: Footnotes to lyrics

2013-02-27 Thread Daniel Rosen
-Original Message- From: Trevor Daniels [mailto:t.dani...@treda.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 6:44 PM To: wjm; d...@gnu.org; Lilypond-User List Subject: Re: Footnotes to lyrics wjm wrote Wednesday, February 27, 2013 7:34 PM From the NR LilyPond version 2.17.13

Re: Instrument switching with a new staff - possible?

2013-02-27 Thread SoundsFromSound
Just incredible. This LilyPond community is simply untouchable - /unmatched /anywhere else on the web, in my experience. Thank you all for helping me with this - LilyPond keeps blowing my mind! I can't stop using it. I'll tweak this code a bit and it should work out just fine for what I need,

Re: Output PDF has different chord font than expected

2013-02-27 Thread mayornancy
Xavier, Thank you for explaining the root cause of this frustrating problem. Based on your solution, I am now able to use the chord font of my choice by adding the following snippet at the top of my source file (in this case Verdana, which ships natively with Win7) \paper  {   #(define fonts  

Re: Single Whole Measure Rest vs compressed MMR

2013-02-27 Thread Werner LEMBERG
1. Are single Whole Measure Rest and compressed MMR two different things, and treated as such, with specific rules, etc. in references like Ross, Read, Gould? As far as I know, they are treated similarly. Why should there be a difference? The idea of having compressed MMRs is to save

Re: Instrument switching with a new staff - possible?

2013-02-27 Thread David Kastrup
SoundsFromSound soundsfromso...@gmail.com writes: Just incredible. This LilyPond community is simply untouchable - /unmatched /anywhere else on the web, in my experience. LaTeX community (the plain TeX community, in contrast, falls apart into few individuals with their own style and macros

ly2video to iPod

2013-02-27 Thread Martin Tarenskeen
Hi, I want to try to make a little video using ly2video that is playable on my iPod classic. ly2video.py has several parameters to control the video output format (--fps, --quality, --resolution, --width, --height, and I guess the extension/filetype of the output file is also important?)

Re: Hushing up Sibelius news?

2013-02-27 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi, On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 2:30 AM, Adam Spiers lilypond-u...@adamspiers.org wrote: On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 5:22 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Adam Spiers lilypond-u...@adamspiers.org writes: I just blogged about this:

Re: Hushing up Sibelius news?

2013-02-27 Thread David Kastrup
Adam Spiers lilypond-u...@adamspiers.org writes: On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 5:22 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Adam Spiers lilypond-u...@adamspiers.org writes: I just blogged about this: http://blog.adamspiers.org/2013/02/25/music-industry-learns-nothing-from-the-avid-sibelius-saga/

Re: Footnotes to lyrics

2013-02-27 Thread Noeck
Can anyone recommend a workaround in the meantime? You could place a working footnote nearby and fake the number in the lyrics: \version 2.17.12 { a b \footnote #'(0.0 . 0) \markup { \super 1 Footnote for lyrics. } c' c' } \addlyrics { The Ly -- \markup \concat { ric\super 1 } test. }