Re: SMuFL

2013-08-10 Thread Andrew Bernard
Thanks Werner for pointing this out. It would help if I read the SMuFL standard before commenting. :-) So I think my previous comments are invalid. Now that I have read the standard v 0.6, I see that it works hand in hand with Unicode, and is not in opposition to, or outside of Unicode. Given

Re: SMuFL

2013-08-10 Thread David Kastrup
Andrew Bernard andrew.bern...@gmail.com writes: This is of great interest to me because several of the people I do scores for (contemporary composers) do not favour the very heavy black Germanic look of the standard lilypond font, attractive though it may be. It would be nice to have a wider

Re: SMuFL

2013-08-10 Thread Andrew Bernard
Interesting valid points David. But I was thinking that it although lilypond is open source, why can't I purchase _commercial_ music fonts to use with it, just as one does for print typesetting? I did not see the fonts as being tied to buying the engraving software, but a decoupled market. I

Re: SMuFL

2013-08-10 Thread Urs Liska
Am 10.08.2013 10:52, schrieb Andrew Bernard: Interesting valid points David. But I was thinking that it although lilypond is open source, why can't I purchase _commercial_ music fonts to use with it, just as one does for print typesetting? I did not see the fonts as being tied to buying the

Re: SMuFL

2013-08-10 Thread Andrew Bernard
Greetings List, On 10/08/13 6:57 PM, Urs Liska wrote: Of course this is all quite complex and difficult. Which is why this discussion thread is important, I reckon. One thought: Of course you can buy commercial fonts and use them with LaTeX. I use commercial fonts with the open source

Re: SMuFL

2013-08-10 Thread David Kastrup
Andrew Bernard andrew.bern...@gmail.com writes: Interesting valid points David. But I was thinking that it although lilypond is open source, why can't I purchase _commercial_ music fonts to use with it, just as one does for print typesetting? Because they are not standardized. At any rate,

Re: SMuFL

2013-08-10 Thread Andrew Bernard
On 10/08/13 7:10 PM, David Kastrup wrote: Andrew Bernard andrew.bern...@gmail.com writes: Interesting valid points David. But I was thinking that it although lilypond is open source, why can't I purchase _commercial_ music fonts to use with it, just as one does for print typesetting? Because

Re: SMuFL

2013-08-10 Thread Urs Liska
Andrew Bernard andrew.bern...@gmail.com schrieb: Greetings List, On 10/08/13 6:57 PM, Urs Liska wrote: Of course this is all quite complex and difficult. Which is why this discussion thread is important, I reckon. One thought: Of course you can buy commercial fonts and use them with

Re: SMuFL

2013-08-10 Thread David Kastrup
Andrew Bernard andrew.bern...@gmail.com writes: On 10/08/13 7:10 PM, David Kastrup wrote: Of course, people are free to do whatever they want with their own time and efforts. But if you do it out of a feeling of contributing to LilyPond, it may be worth looking quite closer before investing

Re: SMuFL

2013-08-10 Thread Carl Peterson
On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 5:46 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Andrew Bernard andrew.bern...@gmail.com writes: On 10/08/13 7:10 PM, David Kastrup wrote: Of course, people are free to do whatever they want with their own time and efforts. But if you do it out of a feeling of

Re: SMuFL

2013-08-10 Thread Urs Liska
Carl Peterson carlopeter...@gmail.com schrieb: On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 5:46 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Andrew Bernard andrew.bern...@gmail.com writes: On 10/08/13 7:10 PM, David Kastrup wrote: Of course, people are free to do whatever they want with their own time and

Re: Re: SMuFL

2013-08-10 Thread Evan Driscoll
As a fairly outside observer who is only an occasional user of Lilypond On 08/09/2013 11:43 PM, Carl Peterson wrote: The concern I have on SMuFL is that it is an as-of-yet immature standard without broad support outside of Steinberg. ... Will it be a futile effort because the SMuFL

Re: SMuFL

2013-08-10 Thread David Kastrup
Evan Driscoll drisc...@cs.wisc.edu writes: As a fairly outside observer who is only an occasional user of Lilypond On 08/09/2013 11:43 PM, Carl Peterson wrote: The concern I have on SMuFL is that it is an as-of-yet immature standard without broad support outside of Steinberg. ... Will it

Pedal markings in parentheses

2013-08-10 Thread John K
The Paderewski edition of Chopin Nocturne #3 often puts the sustain pedal markings inside parentheses. I don't have a scan of it to post here, but the fancy Ped indication appears directly beneath the note it starts on, but there is an open parenthesis just to the left of the Ped. The

Re: Page Number Too High

2013-08-10 Thread MarcM
if you provide an example this will increase your chance of getting an answer. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Page-Number-Too-High-tp148969p148971.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: SMuFL

2013-08-10 Thread David Rogers
Andrew Bernard andrew.bern...@gmail.com writes: Emmentaler is, in effect, proprietary, although free. I disagree. I think so poorly documented that in practice almost no one can understand how it works still can't qualify as in effect proprietary. It just qualifies as needing a huge amount of

Re: SMuFL

2013-08-10 Thread Werner LEMBERG
I think so poorly documented that in practice almost no one can understand how it works still can't qualify as in effect proprietary. It is not *that* badly documented. However, the number of people who understand Metafont are rather small today. - Someone who doesn't really want to (but

Re: SMuFL

2013-08-10 Thread David Kastrup
Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org writes: I think so poorly documented that in practice almost no one can understand how it works still can't qualify as in effect proprietary. It is not *that* badly documented. However, the number of people who understand Metafont are rather small today. git